Rellen in Amerika #24

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 01:04 schreef bedachtzaam het volgende:

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We kunnen niet verwachten dat iedereen ineens heilig word, tot in de eeuwigheid zullen mensen elkaar voor stront uitmaken en een scheidende houding hebben vanwege afkomst en geloof, dat is hoe de wereld was/is en zal zijn als er gras op ons buikje groeit.
Laat in ieder geval voor de wet iedereen gelijk zijn en behandeld worden, voor de rest de schouders er onder.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 05:26 schreef kipknots het volgende:
Hier wel een heel mooi en duidelijk voorbeeld van het probleem dat veel mensen hebben met politiegeweld in de VS:

Two Buffalo Police officers shove a man to the ground in front of City Hall (WARNING: GRAPHIC)

Agent duwt een oude man omver die op zijn hoofd eindigt en knock out gaat met een flinke hoofdwond. Geen van de agenten kijkt naar hem om en later wordt in een algemeen bericht van de politie genoemd dat hij struikelde.

Hoe kan je dan als burger de politie nog vertrouwen?

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Every time protests erupt after yet another innocent black person is killed by police, “reform” is meekly offered as the solution. But what if drastically defunding the police – not reform – is the best way to stop unnecessary violence and death committed by law enforcement against communities of color?

Minneapolis, where George Floyd was killed by a police officer who kneeled on his neck for over eight minutes, has tried reform already. Five years ago, the Minneapolis police department was under intense pressure in the wake of both the national crisis of police killings of unarmed black men and its own local history of unnecessary police violence. In response, the department’s leaders undertook a series of reforms proposed by the Obama administration’s justice department and procedural reform advocates in academia.

The Minneapolis police implemented trainings on implicit bias, mindfulness, de-escalation, and crisis intervention; diversified the department’s leadership; created tighter use-of-force standards; adopted body cameras; initiated a series of police-community dialogues; and enhanced early-warning systems to identify problem officers.

In 2015, they brought in procedural reformer and implicit bias champion Phillip Atiba Goff to lead the National Initiative for Building Community Trust and Justice, a three-year, $4.75m project to use data collection, social psychology and police community dialogues to repair and strengthen the frayed relationship between cops and communities.

Following that, Minneapolis implemented a series of training programs designed to professionalize policing in the hopes that it would reduce abuses that might trigger more protests. Officers were trained in how to respond to mental health crisis calls, how to de-escalate confrontations with the public, how to be “mindful” in dangerous circumstances, and how to be more self-aware of their implicit racial bias. In 2018, the department even wrote a report, Focusing on Procedural Justice Internally and Externally, to highlight the broad range of procedural reforms they had implemented.

None of it worked.

That’s because “procedural justice” has nothing to say about the mission or function of policing. It assumes that the police are neutrally enforcing a set of laws that are automatically beneficial to everyone. Instead of questioning the validity of using police to wage an inherently racist war on drugs, advocates of “procedural justice” politely suggest that police get anti-bias training, which they will happily deliver for no small fee.

What “procedural justice” leaves out of the conversation are questions of substantive justice. What is the actual impact of policing on those policed and what could we do differently? Over the last 40 years we have seen a massive expansion of the scope and intensity of policing. Every social problem in poor and non-white communities has been turned over to the police to manage. The schools don’t work; let’s create school policing. Mental health services are decimated; let’s send police. Overdoses are epidemic; let’s criminalize people who share drugs. Young people are caught in a cycle of violence and despair; let’s call them superpredators and put them in prison for life.

Police have also become more militarized. The Federal 1033 program, the Department of Justice’s “Cops Office,” and homeland security grants have channeled billions of dollars in military hardware into American police departments to advance their “war on crime” mentality. A whole generation of police officers have been given “warrior” training that teaches them to see every encounter with the public as potentially their last, leading to a hostile attitude towards those policed and the unnecessary killing of people falsely considered a threat, such as the 12-year-old Tamir Rice, killed for holding a toy gun in an Ohio park.

The alternative is not more money for police training programs, hardware or oversight. It is to dramatically shrink their function. We must demand that local politicians develop non-police solutions to the problems poor people face. We must invest in housing, employment and healthcare in ways that directly target the problems of public safety. Instead of criminalizing homelessness, we need publicly financed supportive housing; instead of gang units, we need community-based anti-violence programs, trauma services and jobs for young people; instead of school police we need more counselors, after-school programs, and restorative justice programs.

A growing number of local activists in Minneapolis like Reclaim the Block, Black Visions Collective and MPD 150 are demanding just that. They are calling on Mayor Jacob Frey to defund the police by $45m and shift those resources into “community-led health and safety strategies.” The Minneapolis police department currently uses up to 30% of the entire city budget. Instead of giving them more money for pointless training programs, let’s divert that money into building up communities and individuals so we don’t “need” violent and abusive policing.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 06:36 schreef Scarface88 het volgende:
Links is helemaal doorgeslagen met hun defund the police Als je wilde westen toestanden wilt vooral doen ja.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 06:36 schreef Scarface88 het volgende:
Links is helemaal doorgeslagen met hun defund the police Als je wilde westen toestanden wilt vooral doen ja.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 06:36 schreef Scarface88 het volgende:
Links is helemaal doorgeslagen met hun defund the police Als je wilde westen toestanden wilt vooral doen ja.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 07:32 schreef probeer het volgende:

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Mjah, het zal maar eens gebeuren dat achterlijke rednecks met wapens, in hun ogen verdachte mensen achterna jagen, onder schot houden en afknallen wanneer diegene niet gedwee meewerkt aan hun terreur.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 07:27 schreef Aurelius het volgende:

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Slim hoor. :’)

Rijke (blanken) mensen in de suburbs beschermen zichzelf wel, of huren particuliere beveiligers in. Door toename in thuiswerken en Amazon is er geen enkele reden meer om in de binnensteden te komen.

Ik verwacht dat een heleboel grote steden in de VS de komende jaren Detroit achterna gaan.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 07:54 schreef Scarface88 het volgende:

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Ja die discussie is al 100x gevoerd.

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Reflections On the Color of My Skin

At a Physics conference I attended long ago, while sipping wine left over from the final dinner, a dozen of us peeled off and started arguing about fun, geeky things. Why does Superman need a cape? And why do cans of Diet Pepsi float while cans of regular Pepsi sink? And how would the Star Trek transporter actually work? As the evening progressed, just after a discussion of momentum transfer in car accidents, one of us mentioned a time when the police stopped him while driving. The officer ordered him from his sports car and conducted a thorough search of his body, the car’s cabin, and the trunk before sending him on his way with a hefty ticket. The charge for stopping him? Driving twenty miles per hour over the local speed limit. Try as we did, we could not muster sympathy for his case.

My colleague had other encounters with the law that he shared later that night, but his first story started a chain reaction among us. One by one we each recalled multiple incidents of being stopped by the police. None of the accounts were particularly violent or life-threatening, although it was easy to extrapolate to highly publicized cases that were. One of my colleagues had been stopped for driving too slowly. He was admiring the local flora as he drove through a New England town in the autumn. Another had been stopped because he was speeding, but only by five miles per hour. He was questioned and then released without getting a ticket. Still another colleague had been stopped and questioned for jogging down the street late at night.
As for me, I had a dozen different encounters to draw from. There was the time I was stopped late at night at an underpass on an empty road in New Jersey for having changed lanes without signaling. The officer told me to get out of my car and questioned me for ten minutes around back with the headlights of his squad car brightly illuminating my face. Is this your car? Yes. Who is the woman in the passenger seat? My wife. Where are you coming from? My parent’s house. Where are you going? Home. What do you do for a living? I am an astrophysicist at Princeton University. What’s in your trunk? A spare tire, and a lot of other greasy junk. He went on to say that the “real reason” why he stopped me was because my car’s license plates were much newer and shinier than the 17-year old Ford that I was driving. The officer was just making sure that neither the car nor the plates were stolen.

Among my other stories, I had been stopped by campus police while transporting my home supply of physics textbooks into my newly assigned office in graduate school. They had stopped me at the entrance to the physics building where they asked accusatory questions about what I was doing. It was 11:30 pm. Open-topped boxes of graduate math and physics textbooks filled the trunk. And I was transporting them into the building, which left me wondering how often that scenario shows up in police training videos.

We went on for two more hours. But before we retired for the night we searched for common denominators among the stories. We had all driven different cars—some were old, others were new, some were undistinguished, others were high performance imports. Some police stops were in the daytime, others were at night. Taken one-by-one, each encounter with the law could be explained as an isolated incident where, in modern times, we all must forfeit some freedoms to ensure a safer society for us all. Taken collectively, however, you would think the cops had a vendetta against physicists because that was the only profile we all had in common. In this parade of automotive stop-and-frisks, one thing was for sure, the stories were not singular, novel moments playfully recounted. They were common, recurring episodes. How could this assembly of highly educated scientists, each in possession of the PhD — the highest academic degree in the land — be so vulnerable to police inquiry in their lives? Maybe the police cued on something else. Maybe it was the color of our skin. The conference I had been attending was the 23rd meeting of the National Society of Black Physicists. We were guilty not of DWI (Driving While Intoxicated), but of other violations none of us knew were on the books: DWB (Driving While Black), WWB (Walking While Black), and of course, JBB (Just Being Black).

None of us were beaten senseless. None of us were shot. But what does it take for a police encounter to turn lethal? On average, police in America kill more than 100 unarmed Black people per year. Who never made it to our circle? I suspect our multi-hour conversation would be rare among most groups of law-abiding people.

As I compose this, about 10,000 chanting protestors are filing past my window in Manhattan. And because of the intermittent looting and related violence, the curfew for this evening has been pushed earlier, to 8pm, from 11pm in the preceding days. The most common placard was “Black Lives Matter”. Many others simply displayed the name George Floyd, who was handcuffed face-down on the street with a police officer’s knee on the back of his neck, applied with a force of at least half the officer’s body weight, resulting in his death. Curious irony that NFL star Colin Kaepernick offered a simple demonstration of care and concern for the fate of Black people in the custody of police officers. He simply took a knee during the Star Spangled Banner before football games. (One media outlet mangled the moment by describing him as protesting the national anthem itself.) The outrage against his silent act of concern for a national problem persisted through the 2017 season when, as a free agent, he went unsigned by any team to continue his livelihood.

So, we went from a peaceful knee on the ground to a fatal knee on the neck.
The way peaceful protesters and the press are being shoved, maced, tear-gassed, pepper-sprayed, and tackled in the streets of our cities (when the police should really focus on arresting the looters) you would think the protestors were doing something illegal or un-American. But of course, the US Constitution has something to say about it:
Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom … of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Which amendment was that? The First Amendment. So, the founders of this nation felt quite strongly about it. As such, protesting for redress of grievances is one of the most American things you can do. If you are the police, pause and reflect how great is the country whose Constitution endorses peaceful protests.

What do we actually expect from our police officers? To protect the peace and arrest the bad guys, I presume. But also, to be armed with lethal force that they can use when necessary. That part clearly requires training on how and when to use (and not use) the power of your weapons. The rigorous Minneapolis Police Academy training lasts 4 months. The slightly more rigorous NYC Police Academy lasts 6 months.

Yet to become a certified pastry chef at a prestigious culinary academy requires 8 months. The perfect croissant needs it. So maybe, just maybe, police recruits could benefit from a bit more training before becoming officers.

In 1991, Rodney King (age 25) was struck dozens of times, while on the ground, by four LAPD officers, with their batons, after being tased. The grainy 1990s video of the incident went media-viral, inducing shock and dismay to any viewer.
But I wasn’t shocked at all.

Based on what I already knew of the world, my first thought was, “We finally got one of those on tape.” Followed by, “Maybe justice will be served this time.” Yes, that’s precisely my first thought. Why? Since childhood my parents instilled in me and my siblings, via monthly, sometimes weekly lessons, rules of conduct to avoid getting shot by the Police. “Make sure that when you get stopped, the officer can always see both of your hands.” “No sudden movements.” “Don’t reach into your pockets for anything without announcing this in advance”. “When you move at all, tell the officer what you are about to do.” At the time, I am a budding scientist in middle school, just trying to learn all I can about the universe. I hardly ever think about the color of my skin. It never comes up when contemplating the cosmos. Yet when I exit my front door, I’m a crime suspect. Add to this the recently coined “White Caller Crime,” where scared White people call the police because they think an innocent Black person is doing something non-innocent, and it’s a marvel that any of us achieve at all.

The rate of abuse? Between one and five skin-color-instigated incidents per week, for every week of my life. White people must have known explicitly if not implicitly of this struggle. Why else would the infamous phrase, “I’m free, White, and 21” even exist? Here is a compilation of that line used in films across the decades. Yes, it’s offensive. But in America, it’s also truthful. Today’s often-denied “White privilege” accusation was, back then, often-declared.
The deadly LA riots associated with the Rodney King incident are often remembered as a response to the beating. But no. Los Angeles was quiet for 13 months afterward. Everyone had confidence, as did I, that the video was just the kind of evidence needed to finally bring about a conviction in the abuse of power. But that’s not what came to pass. The riots were a response to the acquittal of the four officers in the incident, and not to the incident itself. And what is a riot if not the last act of helpless desperation.

The 1989 film by Spike Lee “Do the Right Thing”, which explored 1980s Black-White-police tensions in Brooklyn, New York, ends with a dedication to the families of six people. Eleanor Bumpers (age 66), Michael Griffith (age 23), Arthur Miller (age 30), Edmund Perry (age 17), Yvonne Smallwood (age 28), and Michael Stewart (age 25). All are Black. One was killed by a White mob. The rest were unarmed and shot by police or otherwise died while in police custody. All deaths occurred within the 10 years preceding film, and all occurred in New York City. None of the police-induced deaths resulted in convictions, as continues to be true for 99% of all police killings.

We know of these events because they each ended in death. But even so, back then it was only local news. Was this just NYC’s problem? I asked myself. I also wondered, for every police-related death anywhere, how many unarmed victims are shot by police and don’t die, or are wrongfully maimed or injured? Most of those cases didn’t even make the local news. But if you lived in those neighborhoods, you knew. We all knew. For what it’s worth, NYC now has the lowest police-caused death rate per capita among the sixty largest cities in the US. Could it be those extra two months in the New York Police Academy?

The corrosion and ultimate erosion of our confidence in the legal system in cases such as these, even in the face of video evidence, has spawned a tsunami of protests. With sympathetic demonstrations across the United States and around the world. If the threat of prison time for this behavior does not exist — acting as a possible deterrent — then the behavior must somehow stop on its own.

Some studies show that the risk of death for an unarmed person at the hands of the police is approximately the same no matter the demographics of who gets arrested. Okay. But if your demographic gets stopped ten times more than others, then your demographic will die at ten times the rate. But even after we get the bias factor down to zero, there’s still the matter of police killing unarmed suspects, White people included.

I talk a lot. But I don’t talk much about any of this, or events along these paths-of-most-resistance that have shaped me. Why? Because throughout my life I’ve used these occasions as launch-points to succeed even more. Yes, I parlayed the persistent rejections of society, which today might be called micro-aggressions, into reservoirs of energy to achieve. I learned that from my Father, himself active in the Civil Rights movement during the 1950s and 1960s.
In a way, I am who I am precisely because countless people, by their actions or inactions, said I would never be what I became. But what becomes of you if you don’t posses this deep supply of fuel? Who from historically disenfranchised communities, including women, LGBTQ+, and anybody of color, is missing — falling shy of their full potential, because they ran out of energy and gave up trying.

Are things better today than yesterday? Yes. But one measure of this truth is a bit perverse. Decades ago, unarmed Black people getting beaten or killed by the police barely merited the local news. But now it’s national news – even breaking news – no matter where in the country it occurs.
So how to change all this? Organizations have surely put forth demands for Police Departments. Here, I offer a list of my own, for policy experts to consider:
1) Extend Police Academies to include months of cultural awareness and sensitivity training that also includes how not to use lethal force.
2) All Police officers should be tested for any implicit bias they carry, with established thresholds of acceptance and rejection from the Police Academy. We all carry bias. But most of us do not hold the breathing lives of others in our hands when influenced by it.
3) During protests, protect property. Protect lives. If you attack non-violent protesters you are being un-American. And we wouldn’t need draconian curfews if police arrested looters instead of protesters.
4) If fellow officers are behaving in a way that is clearly unethical or excessively violent, and you witness this, please stop them. Someone will get that on video, offering the rest of us confidence that you can police yourselves. In these cases, our trust in you matters more to a civil society than how much you stick up for each other.
5) And here’s a radical idea for the Minneapolis Police Department — why not give George Floyd the kind of full-dress funeral you give each other for dying in the line of duty? And vow that such a death will never happen again.
6) Lastly, when you see Black kids in the street, think of what they can be rather than what you think they are.

Respectfully Submitted

Neil deGrasse Tyson — trying hard to Keep Looking Up.
New York City

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 07:57 schreef recursief het volgende:

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En zal zolang dat blijft voorkomen nog wel vaker gevoerd worden. Deal with it.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:07 schreef Scarface88 het volgende:

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Zolang wat vaker voor blijft komen? Een civil arrest na een heterdaadje?

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:01 schreef Monolith het volgende:

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bron

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:11 schreef probeer het volgende:

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Een discussie over (het racisme van) achterlijke rednecks die met wapens, in hun ogen verdachte mensen achterna jagen, onder schot houden en afknallen wanneer diegene niet gedwee meewerkt aan hun terreur.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:17 schreef Scarface88 het volgende:

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Vooral vol blijven houden dat het racistisch was en er in blijven geloven. Als het een blanke was hadden ze ook gewoon een civil arrest uitgevoerd hoor. Moet ik de cijfers weer posten van moorden black on black versus white on black? Black on white hoef ik niet te posten denk ik.

Bestaat racisme? Tuurlijk. Is het een enorm probleem en worden zwarten om minste of geringste doodgeschoten door blanken? Nee. De cijfers zijn hartstikke duidelijk. Dat er af en toe een debiel tussen zit wil niet zeggen dat heel het land racistisch is. Nogmaals blanken zijn veel vaker het slachtoffer en dan maken we ook niet elke keer zon heissa.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:07 schreef Scarface88 het volgende:

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Zolang wat vaker voor blijft komen? Een civil arrest na een heterdaadje?

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:11 schreef probeer het volgende:

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Een discussie over (het racisme van) achterlijke rednecks die met wapens, in hun ogen verdachte mensen achterna jagen, onder schot houden en afknallen wanneer diegene niet gedwee meewerkt aan hun terreur.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:20 schreef probeer het volgende:

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Jup. Achterlijke rednecks hebben inderdaad vanuit racistische motieven de wapens gegrepen om een ander achter na te jagen, onder schot te houden en af te knallen wanneer diegene niet gedwee meewerkte aan hun terreur. Dat is precies wat er gebeurd is. En de VS heeft heel veel achterlijke racistische rednecks. De cijfers zijn hartstikke duidelijk.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:27 schreef Scarface88 het volgende:

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Je mist totaal het punt. Kijk naar de cijfers nogmaals. Moet ik echt het grafiekje weer posten of blijven we krampachtig volhouden dat zwarten constant opgejaagd worden door vreselijk racistische rednecks?

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:30 schreef probeer het volgende:

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Jup. Achterlijke rednecks hebben inderdaad vanuit racistische motieven de wapens gegrepen om een ander achter na te jagen, onder schot te houden en af te knallen wanneer diegene niet gedwee meewerkte aan hun terreur. De cijfers zijn inderdaad ontzettend duidelijk. Fijn dat je dat bevestigt.

Zie je, we komen er wel

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:35 schreef Scarface88 het volgende:

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Ten eerste is het niet bewezen dat dat "racistisch" was. Dat maak jij er van omdat je de media na praat. Heb je bewijs dat het racisten waren?

Ten tweede blijf je over een moord bezig in een land van 330 miljoen mensen. Dat is niet representatief voor heel het land maar dat snap je zelf ook wel.

Als een moslim wat flikt ga je toch ook niet elke moslim een terrorist noemen? Je doet nu precies hetzelfde als waar je altijd boos om wordt als anderen het doen. Maar blijkbaar vind jij blanken over een kam scheren als allemaal racisten wel oke. Dubbele standaard heet dat.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:36 schreef probeer het volgende:

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Zo las ik laatst nog in meerdere onderzoeken dat de VS voor minstens 20% uit achterlijke racistische rednecks bestaat. Die vanuit racistische motieven de wapens gegrepen om een ander achter na te jagen, onder schot te houden en af te knallen wanneer diegene niet gedwee meewerkte aan hun terreur.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:39 schreef Enchanter het volgende:

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En de 'black on white murders' waren waarschijnlijk allemaal ongelukjes.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 07:05 schreef Kijkertje het volgende:
Het idee achter 'defunding the police':

The answer to police violence is not 'reform'. It's defunding. Here's why

Bias training, body cameras, community dialogues – Minneapolis has tried them all. We need a better response
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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:01 schreef Monolith het volgende:
training on how and when to use (and not use) the power of your weapons. The rigorous Minneapolis Police Academy training lasts 4 months. The slightly more rigorous NYC Police Academy lasts 6 months.

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training on how and when to use (and not use) the power of your weapons. The rigorous Minneapolis Police Academy training lasts 4 months. The slightly more rigorous NYC Police Academy lasts 6 months.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:48 schreef icecreamfarmer_NL het volgende:

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Is dat niet erg kort. In NL is dat toch een jaar of 3?

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:40 schreef Jor_Dii het volgende:

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Ik mis hier black on black.. heb je daar ook cijfers van?

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:48 schreef archito het volgende:

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Zelfs de BOA training is nog langer geloof ik. In Nederland mogen die nog geeneens een stok of pepperspray dragen.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:50 schreef probeer het volgende:

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Boa training is 6 maanden.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:52 schreef archito het volgende:

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Kun je nagaan. In Minneapolis sturen ze zwaar bewapende politie al na 4 maanden de straat op.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:54 schreef probeer het volgende:

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Bij de LOI 6 maanden met een studielast van 8 uur per week. Maar ik zie op de google net ook dat het ook in 10 dagen fulltime kan.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:40 schreef Jor_Dii het volgende:

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Ik mis hier black on black.. heb je daar ook cijfers van?

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:50 schreef Enchanter het volgende:

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Dit is van 2016

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:48 schreef archito het volgende:

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Zelfs de BOA training is nog langer geloof ik. In Nederland mogen die nog geeneens een stok of pepperspray dragen.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:58 schreef probeer het volgende:

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En de VS daar voor minsten 20% mee vol zit.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 08:48 schreef icecreamfarmer_NL het volgende:

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Is dat niet erg kort. In NL is dat toch een jaar of 3?

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 09:00 schreef Jor_Dii het volgende:

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Neem aan dat je sarcastisch bent, toch?

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 09:26 schreef Lokale_Notabele het volgende:
Ik begrijp niet waarom iedereen volledig voorbij gaat aan het feit dat die meneer Floyd zich wel degelijk verzette bij zijn arrestatie. Dit is duidelijk te zien op de beelden. Nog afgezien van het feit dat hij sigaretten gestolen had uit die winkel en deze weigerde terug te geven aan het personeel. Die meneer Floyd is er zelf debet aan dat de situatie zo geëscaleerd is. Het is niet zo dat hij vanuit het niets ten prooi gevallen is aan "police brutality." Op CNN noemde ze de plek in Minneapolis waar het zich afspeelde zelf "sacred ground" of iets in die trant. Alsof Moeder Teresa ons ontvallen is. Dan vraag ik me echt af waarnaar ik zit te kijken.

Uit de statistieken komt ook duidelijk naar voren dat black on white crime een veel groter probleem is dan andersom. Het lijkt wel alsof de hele wereld gek geworden is.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 09:26 schreef Lokale_Notabele het volgende:
Ik begrijp niet waarom iedereen volledig voorbij gaat aan het feit dat die meneer Floyd zich wel degelijk verzette bij zijn arrestatie. Dit is duidelijk te zien op de beelden. Nog afgezien van het feit dat hij sigaretten gestolen had uit die winkel en deze weigerde terug te geven aan het personeel.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 09:30 schreef spectrumanalyser het volgende:

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Niet alleen dat. Er is niemand die ook maar even kijkt wie die meneer George Floyd was en wat hij zoal gedaan heeft in zijn leven.

twee dingen eruit halen;
- Heeft 5 jaar gezeten voor bedreiging en beroving.
- Was veroordeeld voor diefstal met een vuurwapen voor drugs.
bron: https://nypost.com/2020/0(...)eapolis-union-chief/

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 09:49 schreef matthijst het volgende:

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Dat was die andere dooie toch?
Floyd betaalde met vals geld.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 10:05 schreef Lokale_Notabele het volgende:

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Dan heb je dus niet betaalt als je iemand een waardeloos stuk papier overhandigd.

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Op vrijdag 5 juni 2020 10:02 schreef Lokale_Notabele het volgende:

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Gewoon een ordinaire gangster. Mensen laten zich volledig het hoofd op hol brengen door de linkse media. De hele wereld staat in brand. Als je niet beter zou weten dan zou je denken dat Moeder Teresa is neergeknuppeld Rodney King style.

De knie techniek die meneer Chauvin gebruikte is gewoon een normale Politie techniek die agenten aangeleerd wordt in Amerika. Dat de junkie George Floyd meer onder de leden had en dit niet kon hendelen konden de dienstdoende agenten ook niet weten. De hele wereld staat in brand maar het gaat echt helemaal nergens over. Waarom zou je hier in godsnaam in Groningen, Rotterdam of Utrecht voor de straat op gaan? Pure aandachttrekkerij. "Kijk mij eens een goed mens zijn." Ik weet nu in ieder geval welke mensen ik moet ontvolgen en verwijderen.