POL Politiek
Discussies en diepgaande gesprekken over de politiek in de breedste zin van het woord kun je hier voeren.
Ja zeg: trump in een bunker en Biden op straat in gesprek met een demonstrant.quote:Op maandag 1 juni 2020 01:40 schreef Jojoke het volgende:
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Het zal ongetwijfeld weer een hete nacht worden in de Amerikaanse steden.
Geen golf voor Trump dit Pinksterweekendquote:Op maandag 1 juni 2020 01:54 schreef AnneX het volgende:
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Ja zeg: trump in een bunker en Biden op straat in gesprek met een demonstrant.
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
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Ja wat moet ik er op zeggen dit slaat natuurlijk als kut op dirk. Arrestanten na de curfew waren allemaal antifa relschoppers die niet eens in Minnesota woonden.
https://www.courthousenew(...)e-supremacist-groupsquote:Department of Safety Commissioner John Harrington said they are contact-tracing the arrested and added that an investigation is underway about white nationalist groups posting online to encourage their members to use the protests as a cover to create chaos.
He said some of the 40 arrests made in the Twin Cities Friday night were of people linked to white supremacist groups and organized crime.
Ich glaube, dass es manchmal nicht genügend Steine gibt und
Ich bin mir sicher, dass auch schöne Augen weinen
Ich bin mir sicher, dass auch schöne Augen weinen
Artikel over de neiging van officials om onruststokers van buiten de staat de schuld te geven:
twitter:EricMGarcia twitterde op maandag 01-06-2020 om 00:54:08 Blaming outside agitators seems easy for elected officials because a) it allows them not to blame their own constituents and condemn violence and B) allows them to not address the concerns of protesters. Good piece by @BrandyZadrozny and @oneunderscore__
https://t.co/46R9EJ1vqg reageer retweet
Blaming outside agitators seems easy for elected officials because a) it allows them not to blame their own constituents and condemn violence and B) allows them to not address the concerns of protesters. Good piece by @
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
Ik snap hem nu, Antifa is de nieuwe naam van de Alt Right en white supremacists?quote:
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https://www.courthousenew(...)e-supremacist-groups
Een ding kan ik niet terugvinden, hoeveel Antifa leden er zijn gearresteerd, dat zullen ze toch wel bijgehouden hebben?
"The enemy isn't men, or women, it's bloody stupid people and no one has the right to be stupid." - Sir Terry Pratchett.
Mss hadden ze hun lidmaatschapskaart expres niet meegenomen!quote:
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Ik snap hem nu, Antifa is de nieuwe naam van de Alt Right en white supremacists?
Een ding kan ik niet terugvinden, hoeveel Antifa leden er zijn gearresteerd, dat zullen ze toch wel bijgehouden hebben?
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
Zojuist gepost in NWS, maar ook hier vast relevant. Video in tweet.twitter:HoarseWisperer twitterde op maandag 01-06-2020 om 01:35:06 Watch. Share. https://t.co/DgxZkxrl3S reageer retweet
Watch. Share.
Deze is zeker niet gepost daar?quote:Zojuist gepost in NWS, maar ook hier vast relevant. Video in tweet.twitter:HoarseWisperer twitterde op maandag 01-06-2020 om 01:35:06 Watch. Share. https://t.co/DgxZkxrl3S reageer retweet
twitter:FrankFigliuzzi1 twitterde op zaterdag 30-05-2020 om 19:11:30 Worth a read: Far-Right Extremists Are Hoping to Turn the George Floyd Protests Into a New Civil War - VICE #MAGANIGHT https://t.co/bagUAoGHLH reageer retweet
Worth a read: Far-Right Extremists Are Hoping to Turn the George Floyd Protests Into a New Civil War - VICE
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
Hm, ik vermoed van niet, hoewel je wel allerlei pluimage hebt die posten. :-) Leef je uit zou ik zeggen..quote:Op maandag 1 juni 2020 02:59 schreef Kijkertje het volgende:
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Deze is zeker niet gepost daar?twitter:FrankFigliuzzi1 twitterde op zaterdag 30-05-2020 om 19:11:30 Worth a read: Far-Right Extremists Are Hoping to Turn the George Floyd Protests Into a New Civil War - VICE #MAGANIGHT https://t.co/bagUAoGHLH reageer retweet
Neu, ik lees af en toe even mee en een normale discussie is ver te zoeken daar.quote:Op maandag 1 juni 2020 03:05 schreef SnertMetChoco het volgende:
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Hm, ik vermoed van niet, hoewel je wel allerlei pluimage hebt die posten. :-) Leef je uit zou ik zeggen..
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
Bij het Witte Huis:
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Nog een filmpje met agenten 'taking a knee'
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Lights that usually illuminate exterior of the WH have been turned off.
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En het merendeel van de protesten verloopt ook gewoon heel vreedzaam maar dat is natuurlijk geen nieuws.twitter:AdamParkhomenko twitterde op maandag 01-06-2020 om 03:25:30 This is currently happening outside the White House https://t.co/vrjqQp1Azw reageer retweet
This is currently happening outside the White House twitter:AdamParkhomenko twitterde op zondag 31-05-2020 om 23:46:21 Wow. Outside the White House https://t.co/jNHkHVpLVg reageer retweet
twitter:MattOswaltVA twitterde op maandag 01-06-2020 om 00:30:38 Trump finally figured out how to draw a huge crowd for himself in Washington without using photoshop https://t.co/Z0WzveI5EY reageer retweet
Trump finally figured out how to draw a huge crowd for himself in Washington without using photoshop Nog een filmpje met agenten 'taking a knee'
twitter:DarrenMHaynes twitterde op maandag 01-06-2020 om 01:32:49 DC police take a knee during #protests2020 @wusa9 https://t.co/j4NNa8LYoh reageer retweet
DC police take a knee during In de aanloop naar het ingaan van de curfew:twitter:DarrenMHaynes twitterde op maandag 01-06-2020 om 01:52:27 One of the officers just told me he took a knee because he "respects what we are doing" @wusa9 reageer retweet
twitter:mkraju twitterde op maandag 01-06-2020 om 04:36:35 "Huge fire" set by protestors at Lafayette Park, which is just steps from the WH, per @MarquardtA, reporting on the chaotic scene reageer retweet
"Huge fire" set by protestors at Lafayette Park, which is just steps from the WH, per @twitter:ZekeJMiller twitterde op maandag 01-06-2020 om 04:43:30 WASHINGTON (AP) -- Multiple fires set near the White House as protests in Washington escalate ahead of curfew. reageer retweet
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Multiple fires set near the White House as protests in Washington escalate ahead of curfew. POTUS krijgt zijn MAGA nighttwitter:hunterw twitterde op maandag 01-06-2020 om 04:53:37 Law enforcement including military police just advanced on the crowd of protesters in Lafayette Park across from White House. They used tear gas, flashbangs, and I believe were shooting rubber bullets. Much of the crowd dispersed but people are still here. Seven minutes to curfew reageer retweet
Law enforcement including military police just advanced on the crowd of protesters in Lafayette Park across from White House. They used tear gas, flashbangs, and I believe were shooting rubber bullets. Much of the crowd dispersed but people are still here. Seven minutes to curfew Filmpje:
twitter:Chopper4Brad twitterde op maandag 01-06-2020 om 04:43:41 Smoke from multiple fires rising up in front of the Washington Monument #Chopper4 looking south from Maryland, White House center screen. #BreakingNews @nbcwashington #protests2020 #GeorgeFloydProtests https://t.co/WNtPkgYCtD reageer retweet
Smoke from multiple fires rising up in front of the Washington Monument 
Lights that usually illuminate exterior of the WH have been turned off.
twitter:RonaldKlain twitterde op maandag 01-06-2020 om 05:36:17 The light in the People's House was turned off on 1/20/17.
If we all vote, we can turn it back on on 1/20/21. https://t.co/0g3dcHomC3 reageer retweet
The light in the People's House was turned off on 1/20/17. [ Bericht 12% gewijzigd door Kijkertje op 01-06-2020 06:12:49 ]
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
En een draadje over het verschil in leiderschap tussen Barr en AG's in het verleden:
Terwijl POTUS zich in het WH verschanst:
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Intussen retweet POTUS dus zoiets:twitter:Sifill_LDF twitterde op zondag 31-05-2020 om 17:18:18 A THREAD on this tweet released by DOJ yesterday. I presume they think it shows an AG hard at work. But on a day when the country was fracturing amid protests over racism & police violence, the photo is a reminder of the absence of civil rts leadership in this DOJ. By contrast.. https://t.co/CUoMCWFzUj reageer retweet
A THREAD on this tweet released by DOJ yesterday. I presume they think it shows an AG hard at work. But on a day when the country was fracturing amid protests over racism & police violence, the photo is a reminder of the absence of civil rts leadership in this DOJ. By contrast.. 
Terwijl POTUS zich in het WH verschanst:
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twitter:OliviaRaisner twitterde op maandag 01-06-2020 om 01:03:48 Visiting the site of last night's Wilmington protests, @JoeBiden gets some sage advice:
"You've got to get this crazy guy out of office." https://t.co/87dxHAo1P7 reageer retweet
Visiting the site of last night's Wilmington protests, @[ Bericht 18% gewijzigd door Kijkertje op 01-06-2020 04:26:40 ]
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
Voor iedereen die zich afvraagt waarom POTUS nog steeds het volk niet heeft toegesproken in deze roerige tijden:
Hij kan maar beter geen toespraak houden idd.twitter:PhilipRucker twitterde op maandag 01-06-2020 om 01:06:25 Trump and advisers calculated that he shouldn’t speak to the nation because he had nothing to say, no tangible policy or action to announce, nor did he feel an urgent motivation to try to bring people together. So he let his tweets speak for themselves. https://t.co/JjcIC8oxiD reageer retweet
Trump and advisers calculated that he shouldn’t speak to the nation because he had nothing to say, no tangible policy or action to announce, nor did he feel an urgent motivation to try to bring people together. So he let his tweets speak for themselves.
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
“ Trump hiding IN A BUNKER?
The same hero who would have run into a school under gunfire unarmed?”
“ Trump doesn’t wanna wear a facemask but he wants to hide in a bunker?”
Some comments.
The same hero who would have run into a school under gunfire unarmed?”
“ Trump doesn’t wanna wear a facemask but he wants to hide in a bunker?”
Some comments.
Oh ja...dit speelde er ook nog:
“ A number of cadets from US Military Academy class of 2020 who were brought back for graduation where Pres Trump is giving address now tested positive for coronavirus. Army spox: “about 1.5 percent” of Class of 2020 who were brought back have tested positive “
https://mobile.twitter.com/kristenhcnn/status/1267252133822435330
Uitgerekend: “At least 16 cadets, just in case you were wondering what the vague Army spokesperson was trying to hide.“
“ A number of cadets from US Military Academy class of 2020 who were brought back for graduation where Pres Trump is giving address now tested positive for coronavirus. Army spox: “about 1.5 percent” of Class of 2020 who were brought back have tested positive “
https://mobile.twitter.com/kristenhcnn/status/1267252133822435330
Uitgerekend: “At least 16 cadets, just in case you were wondering what the vague Army spokesperson was trying to hide.“
Als je morgen gaat werken op het wh
“ Tonight the White House cautions staffers who must come to work tomorrow to hide their passes until they reach a Secret Service entry point. The email repeated mandates for maximum telework status & said there is still an “elevated security posture” due to protests.”
https://mobile.twitter.co(...)/1267270982491758592
“ Tonight the White House cautions staffers who must come to work tomorrow to hide their passes until they reach a Secret Service entry point. The email repeated mandates for maximum telework status & said there is still an “elevated security posture” due to protests.”
https://mobile.twitter.co(...)/1267270982491758592
Voter suppression mag best wat kosten.
Republicans devote $20m and 50,000 people to efforts to restrict voting
The RNC is seeking people in 15 key states to serve as poll watchers and challenge the registration of voters they believe ineligible
Republicans devote $20m and 50,000 people to efforts to restrict voting
The RNC is seeking people in 15 key states to serve as poll watchers and challenge the registration of voters they believe ineligible
quote:Donald Trump’s campaign and national Republicans are pumping millions of dollars into efforts to restrict voting and aggressively fight Democratic efforts to make it easier to cast a ballot during the Covid-19 pandemic.
The Republican National Committee has allocated $20m so far to oppose Democratic lawsuits across the country seeking to expand voting. Republicans are also seeking to recruit up to 50,000 people in 15 key states to serve as poll watchers and challenge the registration of voters they believe are ineligible, according to the New York Times.
The 2020 election will be the first time in nearly three decades that national Republicans will be involved in such a program. After the RNC was sued over intimidating minority voters in New Jersey in the early 1980s, they agreed to a federal court order not to engage in “ballot security” efforts. The order expired in 2018.
Ronna McDaniel, the chair of the RNC, accused Democrats of trying to “destroy” the integrity of elections on a conference call with reporters on Monday. Several studies, however, have shown that voter fraud is exceedingly rare.
The new effort is the latest in a high-stakes battle over voting laws that has shaped the last two decades in US politics. Republicans have consistently supported voting restrictions citing voter fraud. Democrats have pushed to make it easier to vote, saying the focus on voter fraud is just an excuse Republicans use to disenfranchise certain Americans, particularly students and minorities.
“It is a sad commentary on the sorry state of the Republican party that, under Trump, its only hope for winning in November is to try to suppress the vote,” said Marc Elias, an attorney who is representing Democrats in many of their suits across the country.
Amid Covid-19, the partisan fight has reached a new level. Republicans have fought Democratic efforts in Wisconsin and other states to make it easier to vote by mail. Democrats have sued to overturn requirements they say will make it difficult to cast a ballot during a pandemic, such as requiring people to give a state-approved excuse for why they want to vote absentee or a witness for their ballots.
“What we have seen over decades is that Republicans pursue incredibly aggressive voter suppression tactics because their agenda is unpopular and part of their strategy is to make it harder for Americans to vote,” said David Bergstein, a spokesman for the Democratic National Committee. “We’re very aware that part of the Republican playbook is voter suppression and we’re fighting back.”
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
Kijk zo kan het ook.
In Some Cities, Police Officers Joined Protesters Marching Against Brutalitytwitter:crampell twitterde op zondag 31-05-2020 om 23:44:32 In Some Cities, Police Officers Joined Protesters Marching Against Brutality https://t.co/HA9jY68DeJ reageer retweet
In Some Cities, Police Officers Joined Protesters Marching Against Brutality 
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
Hoe de rest van de wereld reageert op de rellen in de VS:
World alarmed by violence in US; thousands march in Londontwitter:costareports twitterde op zondag 31-05-2020 om 22:40:18 The world watches...
Germany’s top-selling Bild newspaper on Sunday carried the sensational headline, “This killer-cop set America ablaze." And the newspaper’s story reported “scenes like out of a civil war.”
https://t.co/sgdZXO9Po2 reageer retweet
The world watches...
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
quote:
“ Trump hiding IN A BUNKER?
The same hero who would have run into a school under gunfire unarmed?̶
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quote:
Donald Trump muses about if he 'were there' during Paris attacks, armed with a gun
https://www.businessinsid(...)paris-attack-2015-12quote:Real-estate mogul Donald Trump at a Monday-night rally that he could have helped stop the recent terrorist attacks in Paris had he been there with a firearm.
"If I were there — I'm licensed to carry, I will tell you this — if I were there, if somebody were there, if we had some firepower in the opposite direction, those people would have been gone," Trump said of the Paris attackers while speaking at a rally in Las Vegas.
How do we turn this world-class fuck-up into a world-class learning experience?
Bepaald de secret service het hele bunker verhaal en lichten uit niet.quote:
“ Trump hiding IN A BUNKER?
The same hero who would have run into a school under gunfire unarmed?”
“ Trump doesn’t wanna wear a facemask but he wants to hide in a bunker?”
Some comments.
Op woensdag 31 januari 2007 19:20 schreef Lord_Vetinari het volgende:
Ik heb veel stomme posts gezien op fora, maar deze zit toch wel in de top 10 (voorzichtig geschat; het kan ook de top 5 zijn). Nou ik sta iig in zijn top 10
Ik heb veel stomme posts gezien op fora, maar deze zit toch wel in de top 10 (voorzichtig geschat; het kan ook de top 5 zijn). Nou ik sta iig in zijn top 10
Is hij politiek niet gebaat bij deze rellen? Om dan uiteindelijk als sterke man te worden gezien als hij de National Guard eropaf stuurt?quote:Op maandag 1 juni 2020 04:14 schreef Kijkertje het volgende:
Voor iedereen die zich afvraagt waarom POTUS nog steeds het volk niet heeft toegesproken in deze roerige tijden:Hij kan maar beter geen toespraak houden idd.twitter:PhilipRucker twitterde op maandag 01-06-2020 om 01:06:25 Trump and advisers calculated that he shouldn’t speak to the nation because he had nothing to say, no tangible policy or action to announce, nor did he feel an urgent motivation to try to bring people together. So he let his tweets speak for themselves. https://t.co/JjcIC8oxiD reageer retweet
Nee, lijkt me niet. Allereerst is het de vraag of de National Guard gaat helpen, verder maakt hij zich dan helemaal onmogelijk bij die helft van de bevolking die achter de protesten staat.quote:
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Is hij politiek niet gebaat bij deze rellen? Om dan uiteindelijk als sterke man te worden gezien als hij de National Guard eropaf stuurt?
Natuurlijk zullen de die-hard Trumpfans het geweldig vinden als hij korte metten maakt met veelal vredige protesten, maar die die-hard fans hoeft hij niet meer te overtuigen. Het gaat om de zwevende kiezer en de teleurgestelde Trumpstemmers van 4 jaar geleden (naast de opkomst van de democratische kiezers). De vraag die je je moet stellen is of die eerder Trump gaan stemmen dankzij deze protesten en als Trump in gaat grijpen. Ik denk het niet.
Misschien is er geen gevoel dat groter geluk geeft dan dat men voor andere mensen iets kan betekenen (Dietrich Bonhoeffer )
