[AMV] Amerikaanse politiek #700 Church of the Poison Mind

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Op donderdag 2 januari 2020 10:45 schreef Refragmental het volgende:

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2020 gaat echt niet anders zijn dan 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, etc.

Hopelijk gaat die impeachment (waarvan de dems zeiden dat het belangrijk was om snel te doen en het daarom in sneltreinvaart door het huis ging) snel naar het senaat.
Al ben ik bang dat de dems liever wachten tot het senaat volledig in Dem handen is om de impeachement (waarvan de dems zeiden dat het belangrijk was om snel te doen en het daarom in sneltreinvaart door het huis ging) bijna pas een jaar later naar het senaat te sturen. Je weet wel, omdat het snel moest gebeuren.

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Op donderdag 2 januari 2020 11:38 schreef Chivaz het volgende:

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Zo ver we nu weten is er geen misdaad begaan door Trump. Als ze hem uiteindelijk veroordelen in de senaat dan kan dat uiteindelijk gevolgen hebben voor de stabiliteit van het land.
Ik hoop dat de Democraten tegen die tijd een beetje bij hun zinnen zijn gekomen.

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Op donderdag 2 januari 2020 11:38 schreef Chivaz het volgende:

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Zo ver we nu weten is er geen misdaad begaan door Trump. Als ze hem uiteindelijk veroordelen in de senaat dan kan dat uiteindelijk gevolgen hebben voor de stabiliteit van het land.
Ik hoop dat de Democraten tegen die tijd een beetje bij hun zinnen zijn gekomen.

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Op donderdag 2 januari 2020 11:38 schreef Chivaz het volgende:

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Zo ver we nu weten is er geen misdaad begaan door Trump. Als ze hem uiteindelijk veroordelen in de senaat dan kan dat uiteindelijk gevolgen hebben voor de stabiliteit van het land.
Ik hoop dat de Democraten tegen die tijd een beetje bij hun zinnen zijn gekomen.

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Op donderdag 2 januari 2020 12:10 schreef la_perle_rouge het volgende:

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Aanranding en verkrachting zijn geen misdaad?
En er bestaat een bandje waarop hij daar zelf over opschept.

Hij moet een boete betalen vanwege het frauduleuse gemanipuleer met het geld van een liefdadigheidsinstelling, als dat geen misdaad is, waarom dan die boete?

Maar hier https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/atrocities-112-196 vind je een heel lijstje, met handige kleurcodes want ze vallen in de categorieën
– Sexual Misconduct & Harassment

(April, 2016 – Jill Harth accused Donald Trump of sexual assault. In a 1997 lawsuit, Harth stated in court documents that Trump harassed and groped her in 1993. She later dropped the suit but stood by her story.)

– White Supremacy

– Public Statements / Tweets

(In 2011, Donald Trump stoked false claims that Barack Obama had lied about his education. During a speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference, Trump said, “Our current president came out of nowhere. Came out of nowhere. In fact, I’ll go a step further: The people that went to school with him, they never saw him, they don’t know who he is. It’s crazy.” This is false. Numerous accounts from Obama’s college classmates refute Trump’s claim, including Obama’s Columbia roommate, Phil Doerner.)

– Collusion with Russia & Obstruction of Justice
– Trump Staff /Administration
– Trump Family Business Dealings

(November 18, 2016 – Even though he said he would not settle the case, Donald Trump agreed to pay $25 million to settle his Trump University fraud lawsuits. The real estate seminar program was not an accredited university and used misleading marketing tactics to recruit students.)

– Policy
– Environment

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Op donderdag 2 januari 2020 10:45 schreef Refragmental het volgende:

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2020 gaat echt niet anders zijn dan 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, etc.

Hopelijk gaat die impeachment (waarvan de dems zeiden dat het belangrijk was om snel te doen en het daarom in sneltreinvaart door het huis ging) snel naar het senaat.
Al ben ik bang dat de dems liever wachten tot het senaat volledig in Dem handen is om de impeachement (waarvan de dems zeiden dat het belangrijk was om snel te doen en het daarom in sneltreinvaart door het huis ging) bijna pas een jaar later naar het senaat te sturen. Je weet wel, omdat het snel moest gebeuren.

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Op donderdag 2 januari 2020 11:44 schreef archito het volgende:

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Maar ben je het er niet mee eens dat de getuigenissen tot nu toe dermate verontrustend zijn dat een fatsoenlijk proces in de Senaat nodig is om een goede afweging te kunnen maken?

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Op donderdag 2 januari 2020 11:44 schreef archito het volgende:

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Maar ben je het er niet mee eens dat de getuigenissen tot nu toe dermate verontrustend zijn dat een fatsoenlijk proces in de Senaat nodig is om een goede afweging te kunnen maken?

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Op donderdag 2 januari 2020 12:10 schreef la_perle_rouge het volgende:

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Aanranding en verkrachting zijn geen misdaad?
En er bestaat een bandje waarop hij daar zelf over opschept.

Hij moet een boete betalen vanwege het frauduleuse gemanipuleer met het geld van een liefdadigheidsinstelling, als dat geen misdaad is, waarom dan die boete?

Maar hier https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/atrocities-112-196 vind je een heel lijstje, met handige kleurcodes want ze vallen in de categorieën
– Sexual Misconduct & Harassment

(April, 2016 – Jill Harth accused Donald Trump of sexual assault. In a 1997 lawsuit, Harth stated in court documents that Trump harassed and groped her in 1993. She later dropped the suit but stood by her story.)

– White Supremacy

– Public Statements / Tweets

(In 2011, Donald Trump stoked false claims that Barack Obama had lied about his education. During a speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference, Trump said, “Our current president came out of nowhere. Came out of nowhere. In fact, I’ll go a step further: The people that went to school with him, they never saw him, they don’t know who he is. It’s crazy.” This is false. Numerous accounts from Obama’s college classmates refute Trump’s claim, including Obama’s Columbia roommate, Phil Doerner.)

– Collusion with Russia & Obstruction of Justice
– Trump Staff /Administration
– Trump Family Business Dealings

(November 18, 2016 – Even though he said he would not settle the case, Donald Trump agreed to pay $25 million to settle his Trump University fraud lawsuits. The real estate seminar program was not an accredited university and used misleading marketing tactics to recruit students.)

– Policy
– Environment

Veel leesplezier.

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Op donderdag 2 januari 2020 15:41 schreef Chivaz het volgende:

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Nope,

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Op donderdag 2 januari 2020 15:46 schreef Fir3fly het volgende:

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En in het Huis dan?

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Op donderdag 2 januari 2020 15:48 schreef Chivaz het volgende:

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Nogmaals blijkbaar vind Pelosi het niet interessant genoeg om in het huis door te gaan dus......

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Op donderdag 2 januari 2020 15:49 schreef Burner82 het volgende:
Ik ben nieuw, dus even inventariseren... Wie is links en wie is rechts hier? (Go Bernie!!)

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Op donderdag 2 januari 2020 16:23 schreef Monolith het volgende:

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We willen hier graag inhoudelijke discussie dus dit soort hokjesdenken laten we liever achterwege.

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Op donderdag 2 januari 2020 16:30 schreef Burner82 het volgende:

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De hele USA-politiek bestaat uit hokjes denken, smearen en liegen....
Dan ga jij zeggen dat je een inhoudelijke discussie wilt voeren, als mensen het hier hebben over de fake-media van linkse gut-menschen....

Misschien een andere keer

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Op donderdag 2 januari 2020 16:32 schreef Monolith het volgende:

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Smilies zijn niet zo'n heel sterk argument, maar dit is precies het type post waar we hier niet op zitten te wachten. Bij overduidelijk trollgedrag en het gooien met dat soort terminologie kun je gewoon de rapporteerknop gebruiken of een bericht in feedback plaatsen.

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Op donderdag 2 januari 2020 16:34 schreef Burner82 het volgende:

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Ok, en nu?
Ben je pro Trump, of Pro Dem?

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Op donderdag 2 januari 2020 16:39 schreef Monolith het volgende:

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Ik ben anti infantiel hokjesdenken.

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“Clear direction from POTUS to continue to hold.”

This is what Michael Duffey, associate director of national security programs at the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), told Elaine McCusker, the acting Pentagon comptroller, in an Aug. 30 email, which has only been made available in redacted form until now. It is one of many documents the Trump administration is trying to keep from the public, despite congressional oversight efforts and court orders in Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) litigation.

Earlier in the day on Aug. 30, President Donald Trump met with Defense Secretary Mark Esper and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to discuss the president’s hold on $391 million in military assistance for Ukraine. Inside the Trump administration, panic was reaching fever pitch about the president’s funding hold, which had stretched on for two months. Days earlier, POLITICO had broken the story and questions were starting to pile up. U.S. defense contractors were worried about delayed contracts and officials in Kyiv and lawmakers on Capitol Hill wanted to know what on earth was going on. While Trump’s national security team thought withholding the money went against U.S. national security interests, Trump still wouldn’t budge.

Thanks to the testimony of several Trump administration officials, we now know what Trump was waiting on: a commitment from Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden.

But getting at that truth hasn’t been easy and the Trump administration continues to try to obscure it. It is blocking key officials from testifying and is keeping documentary evidence from lawmakers investigating the Ukraine story. For example, this note from Duffey to McCusker was never turned over to House investigators and the Trump administration is continuing to try to keep it secret.

Last month, a court ordered the government to release almost 300 pages of emails to the Center for Public Integrity in response to a FOIA lawsuit. It released a first batch on Dec. 12, and then a second installment on Dec. 21, including Duffey’s email, but that document, along with several others, were partially or completely blacked out.

Since then, Just Security has viewed unredacted copies of these emails, which begin in June and end in early October. Together, they tell the behind-the-scenes story of the defense and budget officials who had to carry out the president’s unexplained hold on military aid to Ukraine.

The documents reveal growing concern from Pentagon officials that the hold would violate the Impoundment Control Act, which requires the executive branch to spend money as appropriated by Congress, and that the necessary steps to avoid this result weren’t being taken. Those steps would include notifying Congress that the funding was being held or shifted elsewhere, a step that was never taken. The emails also show that no rationale was ever given for why the hold was put in place or why it was eventually lifted.

What is clear is that it all came down to the president and what he wanted; no one else appears to have supported his position. Although the pretext for the hold was that some sort of policy review was taking place, the emails make no mention of that actually happening. Instead, officials were anxiously waiting for the president to be convinced that the hold was a bad idea. And while the situation continued throughout the summer, senior defense officials were searching for legal guidance, worried they would be blamed should the hold be lifted too late to actually spend all of the money, which would violate the law.

The emails also reveal key decision points, moments when senior officials hoped the hold might be lifted. This includes Vice President Mike Pence’s September meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, which a senior defense official expected would resolve the funding issue, raising the question: Why? What was supposed to come out of that meeting that would pave the way for Trump to lift the hold? What was Pence expected to communicate?

But, the hold wasn’t immediately lifted after Pence’s meeting with Zelenskyy. Instead, the president finally released the money on Sept. 11, just as the whistleblower complaint was about to break into the open.

As for how the story begins, it was in mid-June when Defense Department officials first heard the president had questions about the Ukraine money.

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rgoodlaw twitterde op donderdag 02-01-2020 om 15:22:23 Many revelations in this SCOOP by @K8brannen (including remarkable reference to Pence's meeting with Zelenskyy).Here I'll outline the significant trouble these unredacted emails spell for Mick Mulvaney's OMB and evidence of a cover up.<thread>...https://t.co/Or12CFjdlf reageer retweet

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NatashaBertrand twitterde op donderdag 02-01-2020 om 16:54:32 The Justice Department also redacted a simple question from the Pentagon comptroller to OMB: Had the hold on Ukraine funds gone through the Pentagon's general counsel? https://t.co/fP1S16tDCU https://t.co/ziin8y8VT6 reageer retweet

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Op donderdag 2 januari 2020 17:02 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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We? Spreek voor jezelf alstublieft.

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costareports twitterde op vrijdag 20-09-2019 om 02:56:44 VP Pence met with Ukraine's Zelensky a few weeks ago in Poland, sitting in for Pres. Trump, who couldn't make the trip. The meeting was in a windowless hotel room. Bolton sat silent, Sec. Perry there, too, as pool reporters were brought int. Zelensky kept bouncing his knees... reageer retweet

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rgoodlaw twitterde op donderdag 02-01-2020 om 18:17:24 Senator Schumer releases a Statement based on our article by @K8brannen reporting on unredacted Ukraine emails obtained by @just_security.(hat tip: @NatashaBertrand)#UkraineDocs https://t.co/LfmMDp3uxW reageer retweet

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pewresearch twitterde op donderdag 02-01-2020 om 18:43:02 Only 31% of Americans say the current economic conditions are helping them and their family. 46% say the current conditions are hurting them and their families. https://t.co/Yc16OH86av https://t.co/OiwAdABVOR reageer retweet

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Op donderdag 2 januari 2020 15:41 schreef Chivaz het volgende:

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Nope, en blijkbaar is Pelosi het met mij eens aangezien zij de getuigenissen van “the inner circle” niet via de rechter wilt afdwingen.
In plaats daar van speelt ze de hete aardappel door naar de senaat. Althans ze wilt het doorspelen naar de senaat met een aantal voorwaarden.

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SpeakerPelosi twitterde op donderdag 02-01-2020 om 21:17:53 Trump engaged in unprecedented, total obstruction of Congress, hiding these emails, all other documents, and his top aides from the American people.His excuse was a phony complaint about the House process.What’s the excuse now? Why won’t Trump & McConnell allow a fair trial? https://t.co/S3ZlEJMMDB reageer retweet

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glennkirschner2 twitterde op woensdag 01-01-2020 om 20:16:06 Which is EXACTLY why the 2020 Dem nominee must pledge to establish a #TrumpCrimesCommission #TCC to investigate/prosecute all crimes by Trump & his co-conspirators/aiders & abettors/accessories. This is essential to restoring the rule of law & deterring future crimes. #NoPardons https://t.co/QQjFgQtV20 reageer retweet

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craigunger twitterde op woensdag 01-01-2020 om 20:53:23 And it must investigate more than crimes. Often, the biggest scandal is what IS legal. The counterintelligence part of Mueller probe has never been released. We need to know how Russian $$ has compromised so many politicians--eg RU Mafia laundered $$ thru Trump real estate. https://t.co/xsF38vbZy6 reageer retweet

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Op donderdag 2 januari 2020 15:41 schreef Chivaz het volgende:

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In plaats daar van speelt ze de hete aardappel door naar de senaat. Althans ze wilt het doorspelen naar de senaat met een aantal voorwaarden.

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kaitlancollins twitterde op vrijdag 03-01-2020 om 00:08:49 CNN and BuzzFeed just got more than 350 pages of FBI memos from witness interviews in Mueller's investigation. There are big redactions, but one of the interviews is completely blacked out — including who was being interviewed! https://t.co/0dNrWS0b5V reageer retweet

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BuzzFeed News has obtained some of the most important and highly sought-after documents from special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation: summaries of FBI interviews with key White House officials.

The hundreds of pages of documents, obtained through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit, were the subject of a protracted legal dispute between the Justice Department and the House Judiciary Committee, which sought them over the summer as part of its impeachment inquiry. The committee had requested access to an unredacted copy of the Mueller report, grand jury testimony from the investigation, and the FBI's summaries of 33 interviews. The Justice Department resisted, claiming the impeachment inquiry does not entitle the panel to see those records. A federal judge disagreed, ruling in October that "DOJ is wrong" and that the White House and the Justice Department were "openly stonewalling" the committee.

In the documents released Thursday, the FBI withheld portions under a number of FOIA exemptions -- including one that says the disclosure of information would interfere with ongoing investigations. They also withheld information from these records claiming disclosure would threaten national security.

The documents also include a contains a 31-page interview that is completely redacted -- including the name of the person being interviewed.

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alihashem_tv twitterde op vrijdag 03-01-2020 om 01:28:00 My sources suggesting that commander of #IRGC Quds force Qassem #Suleimani and Deputy chief of #PMU Abu Mahdi AlMuhandes were in the convoy hit by the #US airstrike near #Baghdad airport #Iraq reageer retweet

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alihashem_tv twitterde op vrijdag 03-01-2020 om 02:11:51 Iraq state tv quoting a #PMU source: deputy commander of #PMU Abu Mahdi #Muhandes and #IRGC Quds force commander Col. Qassem #Soleimani were killed in a strike that targeted their convoy near #Baghdad international airport #Iraq https://t.co/lWh7dTxrAr reageer retweet

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alihashem_tv twitterde op vrijdag 03-01-2020 om 02:28:05 Reuter’s quoting US officials: the #US executed strikes on two targets related to Iran in #Baghdad on Friday https://t.co/w7frBsdhA5 https://t.co/fRnptSyjo6 reageer retweet

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ilangoldenberg twitterde op vrijdag 03-01-2020 om 01:37:37 IF TRUE (HUGE IF). This would likely mean all out conflict between US forces and Iranian supported Shia militia in Iraq https://t.co/q3Bky2wNLX reageer retweet

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yashar twitterde op vrijdag 03-01-2020 om 02:47:36 1. There are unconfirmed reports that Qasem Soleimani commander of Qods Force (Iran's external security agency) has been killed in drone strikes. If true, this will be a major moment in US-Iran relations & Supreme Leader will undoubtedly see this as a major provocation/act of war https://t.co/nLZNbvalsT reageer retweet

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PeterBeinart twitterde op vrijdag 03-01-2020 om 03:06:37 Suleimani has lots of blood on his hands. So did Saddam Hussein. And assassinating him is the single most reckless act of American foreign policy since the Iraq War. reageer retweet

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realDonaldTrump twitterde op vrijdag 03-01-2020 om 03:32:53 https://t.co/VXeKiVzpTf reageer retweet

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Op vrijdag 3 januari 2020 03:36 schreef trein2000 het volgende:

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realDonaldTrump twitterde op vrijdag 03-01-2020 om 03:32:53 https://t.co/VXeKiVzpTf reageer retweet

De commander in chief heeft gereageerd. Slechts deze foto: [ afbeelding ]

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gtconway3d twitterde op vrijdag 03-01-2020 om 03:37:38 It’s really a bad and dangerous thing that the president of the United States is an impulsive, incompetent, and delusional narcissistic sociopath. reageer retweet

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RichardHaass twitterde op vrijdag 03-01-2020 om 03:40:06 It would be ironic and worse yet tragic as well as dangerous if an administration that wanted to reduce the US footprint in the Mideast has set in motion a dynamic that will draw us in much further at a time we face challenges from China and NK in Asia and Russia in Europe. reageer retweet

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DanLamothe twitterde op vrijdag 03-01-2020 om 03:48:08 Pentagon: "At the direction of the President, the U.S. military has taken decisive defensive action to protect U.S. personnel abroad by killing Qasem Soleimani, the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps-Quds Force, a U.S.-designated Foreign Terrorist Organization." reageer retweet

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Op vrijdag 3 januari 2020 03:00 schreef trein2000 het volgende:
De beproefde techniek wordt uit de kast gehaald. Het is oorlog.

Een hoge Iraanse generaal is vermoord door de US. Ook berichten van arrestaties ...

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realDonaldTrump twitterde op dinsdag 29-11-2011 om 20:48:51 In order to get elected, @BarackObama will start a war with Iran. reageer retweet

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aliarouzi twitterde op vrijdag 03-01-2020 om 04:09:01 A former head of the IRGC has just promised that Iran will strike a strong revenge against the USA over the death of Qassem Soleimani reageer retweet

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realDonaldTrump twitterde op woensdag 01-01-2020 om 01:55:01 One of my greatest honors was to have gotten CHOICE approved for our great Veterans. Others have tried for decades, and failed! https://t.co/NcVbbnrT5O reageer retweet

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svdate twitterde op woensdag 01-01-2020 om 04:43:10 This is a lie. Sens McCain and Sanders got the bill written and passed. Barack Obama signed it into law. There are photos and video. https://t.co/4qBb4gciFO reageer retweet

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ChrisLu44 twitterde op woensdag 01-01-2020 om 18:00:58 @svdate Here’s Obama signing the Veterans Choice Act in 2014 that was sponsored by Bernie Sanders and John McCain. Trump will keep saying that only he could get this bill passed. But we have this thing called the Internet to call out his lies. https://t.co/m6VgMeDVpp https://t.co/DmRxdNtWma reageer retweet

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Op vrijdag 3 januari 2020 04:42 schreef Mensen_doe_rustig het volgende:
Misschien al voorbij gekomen maar toch hilarisch! De geschiedvervalser in chief had weer wat te pochen.

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realDonaldTrump twitterde op woensdag 01-01-2020 om 01:55:01 One of my greatest honors was to have gotten CHOICE approved for our great Veterans. Others have tried for decades, and failed! https://t.co/NcVbbnrT5O reageer retweet

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svdate twitterde op woensdag 01-01-2020 om 04:43:10 This is a lie. Sens McCain and Sanders got the bill written and passed. Barack Obama signed it into law. There are photos and video. https://t.co/4qBb4gciFO reageer retweet

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ChrisLu44 twitterde op woensdag 01-01-2020 om 18:00:58 @:svdate Here’s Obama signing the Veterans Choice Act in 2014 that was sponsored by Bernie Sanders and John McCain. Trump will keep saying that only he could get this bill passed. But we have this thing called the Internet to call out his lies. https://t.co/m6VgMeDVpp https://t.co/DmRxdNtWma reageer retweet

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ddale8 twitterde op woensdag 01-01-2020 om 17:33:58 Trump told this lie at least 56 times in 2019. He's up to at least 109 times for his presidency. https://t.co/6t0JbVsq8a reageer retweet