Epstein in staat van beschuldiging gesteld #2

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Op vrijdag 12 juli 2019 15:44 schreef EchteLiberaal het volgende:

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Het wordt nu wel heel erg triest, dus omdat de Amerikaanse tv fake news laat zien is het prima dat jij om je gelijk te bewijzen een fake foto plaatst?

En als Obama met die mensen op de foto staat wat zegt dat dan over Trump die met exact dezelfde foto staat, zelfs echt met MJ?

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Op vrijdag 12 juli 2019 15:55 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Ik snap best dat je veel aan mij denkt, maar je hebt hopelijk door dat je niet op mij reageerde?

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Op vrijdag 12 juli 2019 15:36 schreef dellipder het volgende:

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Ik wil stellen dat deze term betrekking heeft op zowel de gebruikelijke anti-Trumpers als de never-Trumpers
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Noem er eens vijf, want je bent je nu alleen in vage termen aan het uiten.

Hannity: 'Trump Derangement Syndrome Reaches New Heights' With WaPo Headline on Trump & Hurricanes

Tucker: Obama gets severe Trump Derangement Syndrome

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DonaldJTrumpJr twitterde op woensdag 31-01-2018 om 16:47:05 Because Trump Derangement Syndrome is real. They can’t acknowledge that anything @realDonaldTrump says or does is good for our country. https://t.co/uYszpGuOWM reageer retweet

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realDonaldTrump twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 13:27:59 Some people HATE the fact that I got along well with President Putin of Russia. They would rather go to war than see this. It’s called Trump Derangement Syndrome! reageer retweet

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Het is simpelweg een reactie op het geraaskal van de fervente haters. Met hen valt geen normale discussie te voeren, omdat imo zij teveel de emotie de boventoon laten voeren.

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De Amerikaanse minister Alexander Acosta (Werkgelegenheid) stapt op. Hij lag onder vuur vanwege zijn rol bij de vervolging van de van kindermisbruik verdachte miljardair Jeffrey Epstein.
Acosta was in 2008 aanklager en regelde destijds dat Epstein schuld bekende in twee aanklachten wegens prostitutie waardoor hij een veel zwaardere straf wegens het misbruik van minderjarige meisjes ontliep. Die overeenkomst werd geheimgehouden voor de slachtoffers in de misbruikzaak.

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Op vrijdag 12 juli 2019 15:47 schreef dellipder het volgende:

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Dit is geen beschuldiging, maar een aanduiding van gedrag.

En ik begrijp even de vergelijking niet die jij hier bezigt. Omdat ik zogenaamd Trump-geobsedeerd ben mag ik geen oordeel vormen over het onsamenhangende geraaskal van anti-Trumpers?
Hoe werk dit precies in jouw brein?

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Op vrijdag 12 juli 2019 15:57 schreef EdvandeBerg het volgende:

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Van wie ben jij een kloon? Xap1t? ExtraWaskracht? Fir3fly? Ringo?

Je bent minstens zo vervelend en simpel tegelijk.

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Op vrijdag 12 juli 2019 15:59 schreef EdvandeBerg het volgende:

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Was een grapje, kijken of hij zou happen.

Maar jij bent slechts half zo vervelend en soms ook nog eens in staat een inhoudelijke discussie te voeren. Alleen jammer van je vooringenomenheid.

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Op vrijdag 12 juli 2019 16:28 schreef maily het volgende:
Minister VS stapt op na rel rond Epstein
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Op vrijdag 12 juli 2019 16:28 schreef maily het volgende:
Minister VS stapt op na rel rond Epstein
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Op vrijdag 12 juli 2019 13:31 schreef EdvandeBerg het volgende:

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Nee, juist nu de publiciteit zoeken. Het ijzer smeden wanneer het heet is. Proberen een boekdeal binnen te halen en je flink laten betalen door tv-zenders voor een interview. Er zullen best vrouwen bij zij die later aan lager wal geraakt zijn en misschien ergens in een krot wonen met drie kinderen zonder vader en laagbetaald baantje, die hier een kans in zien om iets slechts uit het verleden om te buigen tot iets waarmee je je voordeel kunt doen. Ik bedoel dus dat ik het zou snappen als er echte slachtoffers zich melden en de publiciteit op zoeken.

En er zijn dus blijkbaar ook nog niet eens golddiggers en psychiatrisch patienten opgedoken.

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Op vrijdag 12 juli 2019 18:47 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Opvallend dat dit totaal geen aandacht krijgt. Wellicht goed om nog een keer te posten:

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Op vrijdag 12 juli 2019 19:01 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Een aanklacht. Naar ik begrijp heeft het vermeende slachtoffer die later weer ingetrokken (er wordt gezegd dat ze dat deed omdat ze werd bedreigd).

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Op vrijdag 12 juli 2019 19:02 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Zieke shit, inderdaad. Je mag toch hopen dat het gelul is.

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Epstein Paid $350,000 to Tamper With Witnesses, Prosecutors Say
The accusations were made by federal prosecutors who want to deny bail for Mr. Epstein, the financier facing sex-trafficking charges.

Jeffrey Epstein, the financier facing sex-trafficking charges in New York, was accused of witness tampering on Friday by federal prosecutors, who said he wired $350,000 to two people who were potential witnesses against him.

Mr. Epstein sent the money to the potential witnesses in late November and early December, 2018, shortly after the Miami Herald published an investigative report about a secret deal he had reached with the authorities in Florida to avoid federal prosecution, prosecutors said.

The United States attorney’s office in Manhattan made the new allegations in a court filing asking that Mr. Epstein be denied bail while he awaits trial, saying the payments were evidence that he might try to influence witnesses if he were not detained.

Mr. Epstein’s lawyers maintain their client has lived a law-abiding life for the past 14 years, since he pleaded guilty to state prostitution charges in Florida and served 13 months in jail. He has pleaded not guilty to the charges in New York.

But prosecutors said that Mr. Epstein had paid significant amounts of money to influence individuals who were close to him and who might be witnesses against him at trial.

The prosecutors said Mr. Epstein wired $250,000 to one of his employees and $100,000 to a second person. Both were identified in the government’s memorandum as possible co-conspirators.

The payments and their timing, the prosecutors wrote, suggests Mr. Epstein was trying to “influence co-conspirators” who might provide information against him in light of the allegations in the Miami Herald series.

Mr. Epstein, 66, was arrested on Saturday when his private jet landed at Teterboro Airport in New Jersey after a flight from Paris. He was charged with sex-trafficking and conspiracy in an indictment unsealed on Monday by the office of Geoffrey S. Berman, the United States attorney in Manhattan.

The indictment said that between 2002 and 2005, Mr. Epstein and his employees paid dozens of underage girls to engage in sex acts with him at his homes in Manhattan and Palm Beach, Fla.

Mr. Epstein is also accused in the indictment of encouraging some of his victims to recruit other underage girls for him to abuse. Prosecutors said he paid his “victim-recruiters” hundreds of dollars for each girl they brought him. “In so doing, Epstein maintained a steady supply of new victims to exploit,” the indictment said.

On Thursday, Mr. Epstein asked a judge to allow him to remain free on bond as he awaited trial. He pledged to put up his $56 million Manhattan mansion and his private jet as collateral.

He also proposed he be allowed to remain under house arrest in the mansion, offering to pay for round-the-clock security guards to ensure he did not flee. He said he would wear an ankle bracelet that monitors his location, surrender his passport and ground his jet.

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Op donderdag 11 juli 2019 12:04 schreef J.A.R.V.I.S. het volgende:

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Gut o gut, een bekende van Epstein, hoeveel bekenden zou die man wel niet hebben? Zullen we die allemaal maar hier gaan behandelen of houden we het alleen op Trump.

Het is te hopen dat deze man geen moslim in zijn kennissenkring heeft want dan kan ik lekker losgaan, maar dan zal het topic wel weer gesloten worden of de reacties verwijderd.

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Op zaterdag 13 juli 2019 00:06 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:
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Schaamteloos, deze vent.

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Op zaterdag 13 juli 2019 10:34 schreef SeLang het volgende:

Epstein's Pedophile Island, Little St. James USVI Drone July 2019 3 (1/2)

Epstein's Pedophile Island, Little St. James USVI Drone 2019 2

Vervelen die meisjes zich niet kapot op dat eiland? Of hebben die het sowieso te druk?

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Op zaterdag 13 juli 2019 11:09 schreef StateOfMind het volgende:

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Hopelijk keren ze dat eiland flink ondersteboven. Wie weet wie/wat daar allemaal begraven en verborgen is

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Op vrijdag 12 juli 2019 19:01 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Een aanklacht. Naar ik begrijp heeft het vermeende slachtoffer die later weer ingetrokken (er wordt gezegd dat ze dat deed omdat ze werd bedreigd).

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Op zaterdag 13 juli 2019 00:06 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:
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Schaamteloos, deze vent.

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Op vrijdag 12 juli 2019 08:42 schreef dellipder het volgende:

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Dit is publiek toegankelijke informatie die vanaf 2014-2015 beschikbaar is.

https://www.scribd.com/do(...)ein-Flight-Manifests

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Op zaterdag 13 juli 2019 12:49 schreef MangoTree het volgende:

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Is die mansion nou 56 miljoen opeens? Ik dacht 77?

https://www.washingtonexa(...)-mansion-until-trial

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Op zaterdag 13 juli 2019 12:49 schreef MangoTree het volgende:

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Is die mansion nou 56 miljoen opeens? Ik dacht 77?

https://www.washingtonexa(...)-mansion-until-trial

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Op zaterdag 13 juli 2019 13:31 schreef VEM2012 het volgende:

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Heb je het er nu ineens wel voor over?

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Jeffrey Epstein Was a Sex Offender. The Powerful Welcomed Him Anyway.

A strange thing happened when Jeffrey Epstein came back to New York City after being branded a sex offender: His reputation appeared to rise.

In 2010, the year after he got out of a Florida prison, Katie Couric and George Stephanopoulos dined at his Manhattan mansion with a British royal. The next year, Mr. Epstein was photographed at a “billionaire’s dinner” attended by tech titans like Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk. A page popped up on Harvard University’s website lauding his accomplishments, and superlative-filled news releases described his lofty ambitions as he dedicated $10 million to charitable causes.

Powerful female friends served as social guarantors: Peggy Siegal, a gatekeeper for A-list events, included him in movie screenings, and Dr. Eva Andersson-Dubin, a champion of women’s health, maintained a friendship that some felt gave him credibility. Mr. Epstein put up a website showing Stephen Hawking and other luminaries at a science gathering he had organized.

“If you looked up Jeffrey Epstein online in 2012, you would see what we all saw,” Leon Botstein, the president of Bard College, said in an interview. He seemed “like an ex-con who had done well on Wall Street,” who was close to the Clintons and gave money to academic pursuits, Dr. Botstein said. That was why, he noted, Bard accepted an unsolicited $50,000 in 2011 for its high schools, followed later that year and in 2012 by another $75,000 in donations.

Over a decade ago, when Mr. Epstein was very publicly accused of sexually abusing girls as young as 14, he minimized the legal consequences with high-powered lawyers, monetary settlements that silenced complaints, and a plea deal that short-circuited an F.B.I. investigation and led to the resignation announcement on Friday of a Trump cabinet official who had overseen the case as a prosecutor. Socially, Mr. Epstein carried out a parallel effort, trying to preserve his reputation as a financier, philanthropist and thinker.

Some of the respect Mr. Epstein, 66, drew on was manufactured, the accomplishments recycled. The gathering with Dr. Hawking had taken place back in 2006. The positive online notices appeared to have been paid for by Mr. Epstein: A writer employed by his foundation churned out the news releases, and Drew Hendricks, the supposed author of a Forbes story calling Mr. Epstein “one of the largest backers of cutting edge science,” conceded in an interview that he was given $600 to post the pre-written article under his own name. (Forbes removed the piece after The New York Times published its article.)

Though some institutions and prominent people, including Donald J. Trump, said they shunned him, Mr. Epstein’s tactics largely worked. Over the past week, as the scope of his alleged offenses, involving dozens of victims in the early 2000s, became clearer after a new indictment in New York, the story of Mr. Epstein and his social circles shows how some people were willing to welcome back — or at least give a pass to — a handsome rich man who had been convicted of a crime involving a minor.

Mr. Epstein’s social strategy proceeded from his legal one. The lenient agreement he reached with prosecutors — his plea involved one girl, a 17-year-old, and the crime was prostitution, which made it look like the teenager was in part to blame — gave others a reason to dismiss his wrongdoing, decide he had already paid his penalty or not question what had happened.

At the top of New York society, plenty of people have “weird chitchat attached to their name,” said Candace Bushnell, the “Sex and the City” writer. She said in an interview that she looked into rumors about Mr. Epstein for The New York Observer in 1994 but stopped reporting after she was thrown out of his townhouse and threatened.

For years to come, people brushed such stories aside. “You’d think, ‘It couldn’t possibly be true,’” she said.

A Renaissance Man

In March 2006, a year after allegations of sexual misconduct were first reported to the police in Palm Beach, Fla., Mr. Epstein underwrote the kind of elite event he prized.

It was a five-day gathering in the Caribbean of some of the world’s top scientists, including Dr. Hawking, to share ideas about gravity and cosmology, with scuba and catamaran excursions on the side. One evening, the participants had dinner on the beach at Mr. Epstein’s private island.

Some of the scientists noticed that Mr. Epstein “was always followed by a group of something like three or four young women,” as Alan Guth, a physicist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, put it in an email to The Times, but they did not probe further.

Over a decade later, after Mr. Epstein was released from the Palm Beach County jail, he employed a similar strategy. He surrounded himself with prestige and counted on others to look past what he had done.

“I’m not a sexual predator, I’m an ‘offender,’ Mr. Epstein told The New York Post in 2011. “It’s the difference between a murderer and a person who steals a bagel.”

Ms. Siegal recalled, “He said he’d served his time and assured me that he changed his ways.”

For someone purported to have vast resources at his disposal, Mr. Epstein’s early endeavors to improve his image were oddly unpolished. In 2010 he created the first of at least a half-dozen websites, with names like JeffreyEpsteinScience.com and JeffreyEpsteinEducation.com, dedicated to extolling his philanthropy and fashioning himself a patron of technology and medicine.

The websites looked amateurish, the photos of him meeting with top scientists dated to years before his time in prison, and the name of the Harvard professor who led a research center Mr. Epstein had funded, Martin A. Nowak, was often misspelled.

At the same time, Mr. Epstein launched a public-relations campaign composed of a blizzard of news releases, along with canned write-ups designed to resemble news stories. For the most part, the announcements, which circulated from 2012 to 2014, were recycled accounts of donations he had made in the early 2000s and did not reflect new charitable giving. The earliest releases listed Mr. Epstein’s personal contact information, though later ones had the name of a media consultant. Some of the ersatz news stories found their way onto sites like Forbes and The Huffington Post.

Of all the names Mr. Epstein dropped, perhaps the most frequent was Harvard’s.

Though Mr. Epstein never attended Harvard or even got a college degree, the university has been a recurring theme in his self-styled image as a Renaissance man of finance and science. He found Harvard’s doors open to him once he opened his wallet, with donations starting in the early 1990s that eventually totaled at least $7.5 million.

He took to wearing Harvard sweatshirts, gravitated to mingling with celebrity scientists like Stephen Jay Gould and Steven Pinker, and developed friendships with the former Harvard president Lawrence H. Summers and the law professor Alan Dershowitz, who later helped defend him. (In civil suits, Mr. Dershowitz has been accused of having sex with two of Mr. Epstein’s accusers; he has denied the allegations and accused their lawyers of malfeasance.) Mr. Epstein, a former math teacher, even popped up for lunchtime discussions among scientists at a Harvard cafeteria, Dr. Pinker said in an interview, adding, “He weighted his own opinions as much as scholarly literature.”

By 2014, a page appeared on the website for Harvard’s Program for Evolutionary Dynamics, the initiative Mr. Epstein had financed 11 years earlier with a $6.5 million donation (and a pledge of $23.5 million more that never came), featuring a studio portrait, his résumé and links to his websites. “He is one of the largest supporters of individual scientists, including theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking, Marvin Minsky, Seth Lloyd and Nobel Laureates Gerard ’t Hooft, David Gross and Frank Wilczek,” the Harvard bio said, in what appears to be an exaggerated claim.

A Harvard spokesman said he did not know who was responsible for the page, which has since been removed.

That same year, Mr. Epstein resurfaced at a prestigious science conference. Dr. Pinker, who sat at the same table as Mr. Epstein, said he was treated as an important donor to be wooed.

A Brand-New Start of It

Although he was often described as a billionaire, Mr. Epstein did not come close in his philanthropy to other superrich people. His charitable foundations rarely gave away more than $1 million a year during the 2000s, according to tax records, and much of it was money others had given him.

In 2015, a new foundation Mr. Epstein created, Gratitude America, received a $10 million infusion and started making donations. The source of the money is something of a mystery. Like his earlier giving, which was financed largely by $21 million in donations to his foundation from a close friend and business associate, the retail magnate Leslie H. Wexner, the 2015 money did not appear to have come from Mr. Epstein.

Tax records show the $10 million donation came from a limited liability company located at a 22-story building on Park Avenue in Manhattan that also houses the family foundation of Leon Black, a billionaire investor and chairman of the Museum of Modern Art. He has known Mr. Epstein for years. In 1999, Mr. Black gave $166,000 to another of Mr. Epstein’s charities, and Mr. Epstein once served on the board of Mr. Black’s own foundation. The two men also appear in photos at a 2007 meeting with scientists at Harvard.

It could not be determined whether Mr. Black was responsible for the $10 million donation. His representatives did not respond to requests for comment.

Dr. Eva Andersson-Dubin, founder of the Dubin Breast Center at Mount Sinai, gave Mr. Epstein another form of currency.

The physician, who served for many years as an in-house doctor of NBC, is a breast cancer survivor who used her experience as inspiration for a holistic treatment approach. A former model and Miss Sweden, she is the wife of Glenn Dubin, a founder of Highbridge Capital Management who is No. 1168 on the Forbes billionaires list. The two are known for their philanthropy, and in 2006 they bought Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis’s former apartment at 1040 Fifth Avenue, a symbol of their standing in the city.

Dr. Andersson-Dubin also has a long history with Mr. Epstein, and has remained loyal to him since the 1980s.

At that time, she was putting herself through medical school. She became his girlfriend and, with his encouragement, put modeling aside to focus on her studies. They remained close after she married in 1994. After Mr. Epstein’s release from jail, she continued to socialize with him; those in her circle were aware of their continued friendship.

Despite longstanding news reports about Mr. Epstein’s behavior, Dr. Andersson-Dubin said through a spokeswoman that she was shocked by the recent news. “She’s a very loyal friend and didn’t abandon him after 2008, but the frequency of their contact was less,” the spokeswoman said. The new allegations “are completely counter to the person she is familiar with.”

Their relationship went a long way toward dispersing the cloud around him, according to some observers. If Mr. Epstein had Dr. Andersson-Dubin’s friendship, it suggested to others that perhaps he should be given the benefit of the doubt.

Ms. Siegal, perhaps the city’s most prominent professional hostess, took a more active role, using her gate-keeping powers to usher Mr. Epstein, a friend, into screenings and events.

In an interview, she said that her relationship with Mr. Epstein was not a paid one: They had developed a rapport over the years, with him often quizzing her about films and other topics. “I was a kind of plugged-in girl around town who knew a lot of people,” she said. “And I think that’s what he wanted from me, a kind of social goings-on about New York.”

After he left prison, she had no trouble continuing the friendship. She knew other people who had served time and then resurrected their lives, she said. “The culture before #MeToo was — ‘You’ve done your time, now you’re forgiven.’”

At screenings, Mr. Epstein would shuffle in at the last minute, sit in the back, speak to no one and leave before the party, Ms. Siegal said. He had no ambitions for New York’s party circuit, she and others said, and preferred to entertain people in his own space.

But her invitations helped. In 2010, just after Mr. Epstein left prison, he attended a screening of “Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps.” Soon a flattering blind item appeared in The New York Post about how he was “greeted warmly by guests.”

“It was the first time he has been out in two years, but nobody blinked he was there,” an anonymous source told the newspaper.

A few months later, Ms. Siegal threw the dinner party at Mr. Epstein’s Upper East Side mansion for Prince Andrew, giving Ms. Couric, Mr. Stephanopoulos, Chelsea Handler and others a chance to speak to a member of the royal family a few months before the much-anticipated wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton.

“It was just one of those strange nights,” Ms. Handler said in an interview. Ms. Siegal had not emphasized who was hosting, several guests recalled. “The invitation was positioned as, ‘Do you want to have dinner with Prince Andrew?’” Ms. Siegal said. Mr. Epstein did not speak much. Dr. Andersson-Dubin was there, but others said they barely knew who Mr. Epstein was or what he had been convicted of.

Two of the other guests have also been accused of sexual misconduct, then or since: the television host Charlie Rose and Woody Allen, who attended along with his wife, Soon-Yi Previn. (“So how did the two of you meet?” Ms. Handler recalled asking the couple.) Soon after, outraged headlines appeared about Prince Andrew’s associating with Mr. Epstein, a sex offender.

In a recent email, Mr. Stephanopoulos said he regretted attending. “That dinner was the first and last time I’ve seen him,” he said, referring to Mr. Epstein. “I should have done more due diligence. It was a mistake to go.”

After the #MeToo era dawned in 2017, others were starting to feel less comfortable with Mr. Epstein. The Miami Herald published an investigation that spurred new interest in the case. Ms. Siegal began to distance herself. It was obvious that he was going to face renewed scrutiny, she said, but “he was in complete denial.”

Others echoed that description. Just three months ago, as federal prosecutors were closing in with new charges, Mr. Epstein had a conversation with R. Couri Hay, a publicist, about continuing to improve his reputation. Mr. Epstein asserted that what he was convicted of did not constitute pedophilia, said Mr. Hay, who declined to represent him.

The girls he had sex with were “tweens and teens,” Mr. Epstein told him.

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Op zondag 14 juli 2019 13:03 schreef Tai-Mai-Shu het volgende:
Ik ben een beetje gaan neuzen op google. Wat een raare gast die Epsetin. Hier een oud artikel uit 2016. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/(...)active-brunette.html

Wat doen die meiden daar. Je wordt opgevoed met het idee dat vrouwen beter weten, maar nee.

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Op zondag 14 juli 2019 13:03 schreef Tai-Mai-Shu het volgende:
Ik ben een beetje gaan neuzen op google. Wat een raare gast die Epsetin. Hier een oud artikel uit 2016. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/(...)active-brunette.html

Wat doen die meiden daar. Je wordt opgevoed met het idee dat vrouwen beter weten, maar nee.

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Op zondag 14 juli 2019 13:03 schreef Tai-Mai-Shu het volgende:
Ik ben een beetje gaan neuzen op google. Wat een raare gast die Epsetin. Hier een oud artikel uit 2016. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/(...)active-brunette.html

Wat doen die meiden daar. Je wordt opgevoed met het idee dat vrouwen beter weten, maar nee.

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Op zondag 14 juli 2019 13:21 schreef vipergts het volgende:

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Nou die vrouwen zijn meerderjarig zitten in het modellenwereldje, het lijkt me sterk dat ze onder dwang eigenhandig een huis in en uitlopen. Zij hebben iets wat Epstein wil en Epstein heeft iets wat zij willen gewoon een zakelijke overeenkomst om het netjes te zeggen.

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Op vrijdag 12 juli 2019 18:47 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Opvallend dat dit totaal geen aandacht krijgt. Wellicht goed om nog een keer te posten:

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In terms of scandals, the sordid saga of Jeffrey Epstein has it all. Mysterious gaudy fortunes. Jet-setting debauchery. Lots of pretty girls—including very young girls. Sex and more sex, not necessarily legal or consensual. Add a battalion of VIPs, including billionaires, A-list celebrities, royalty and no less than two American presidents.

The only thing missing was espionage… and it’s not missing anymore.

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Op zondag 14 juli 2019 22:50 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Diezelfde persoon retweet een bericht waarin wordt gesuggereerd dat een blackout in Manhattan een bewuste actie was om een pedoring van de Democraten (onder leiding van Clinton) op te rollen......

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Op zondag 14 juli 2019 22:57 schreef FlippingCoin het volgende:

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En je punt is?

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Op zondag 14 juli 2019 22:50 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Diezelfde persoon retweet een bericht waarin wordt gesuggereerd dat een blackout in Manhattan een bewuste actie was om een pedoring van de Democraten (onder leiding van Clinton) op te rollen......

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Op zondag 14 juli 2019 23:06 schreef ReplaR het volgende:

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Teveel favos uit zijn groep, het moet over Trump gaan.

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Op zondag 14 juli 2019 22:59 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Die dame is duidelijk niet goed bij haar hoofd en een fervent bezoeker van complotsites. Het is ook niet duidelijk wat de bron is van die namenlijst.

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Op zondag 14 juli 2019 23:33 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Wie verdedig ik precies?

Je moet alleen niet alles geloven wat je leest. Het is niet duidelijk wat de bron is van die lijst. Je mag best een beetje kritisch zijn. Kom op nou.

En als Clinton, Obama of onze koning schuldig is doet er niet toe: voor diegenen moeten consequenties volgen.