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0s.gif Op zaterdag 20 april 2019 15:51 schreef Zomaar-een-Chinees het volgende:
Ik vond Discovery er toch te modern eruitzien als de voorloper van Enterprise. Die geel-rode kostuums zien er nogsteeds jaren 60 uit en niet als een upgrade.
Maar dat kan helemaal niet, het verhaal van The Enterprise speelt zich niet af in de jaren '60
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15s.gif Op zaterdag 20 april 2019 23:03 schreef nietzman het volgende:
Tja. Mixed bag voor mij. Ik wil het alleen maar vet vinden, het heeft ook ontzettend veel vette elementen, maar de overdreven complexe verhaallijn en het continu geforceerde gejank en langgerekte quasi diepe gefluister op ongepaste momenten maken het niet makkelijk. Keuzes in de edit doen me soms gewoon pijn. Heb in de finale door het laatste gejank tussen Burnham en Spock heengeskipt.

Fingers crossed dat Burnham voor seizoen 3 een stapje terug doet en het weer richting ensemble serie gaat.

Goddamn wat was die nieuwe Enterprise brug sexy though.
Eens. Ook de scene waarin Pike afscheid neemt van the Admiral vond ik niet zo best. En vergezocht met die hendel die alleen van binnenuit is te bedienen en waardoor de fotontorpedo kennelijk zonder erg een kwart van de Enterprise kan vernietigen. Aan het eind van de aflevering was ie weer als nieuw overigens, ook best knap.
Resumerend vond ik seizoen 2 een stuk beter dan 1, en er zaten heel veel momenten in die typisch startrek zijn en waarom ik er zo gek ben op ben. De rest neem ik op de koop toe :)
  woensdag 24 april 2019 @ 07:58:10 #28
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2s.gif Op zondag 21 april 2019 10:03 schreef Bosbeetle het volgende:

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Een pike serie... -O- hoeveel spinoffs willen ze maken er komt ook al die animatie serie.
Er ís al een animatieserie. :)

Ontopic; altijd leuk die tijdreisafleveringen, maar ze verneuken die causaliteit nu wel heel erg; je wordt in actie gebracht daar zaken die jij in de toekomst met terugwerkende kracht gaat veranderen.
Als mijn post niet duidelijk is, moet je misschien even je sarcasmeradar aanzetten.
  woensdag 24 april 2019 @ 08:04:03 #29
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Eens. Ook de scene waarin Pike afscheid neemt van the Admiral vond ik niet zo best. En vergezocht met die hendel die alleen van binnenuit is te bedienen en waardoor de fotontorpedo kennelijk zonder erg een kwart van de Enterprise kan vernietigen. Aan het eind van de aflevering was ie weer als nieuw overigens, ook best knap.
Resumerend vond ik seizoen 2 een stuk beter dan 1, en er zaten heel veel momenten in die typisch startrek zijn en waarom ik er zo gek ben op ben. De rest neem ik op de koop toe :)
Met die torpedo dacht ik meteen: laat de lokale Mr. Scott die torpedo dematerialiseren en laat hem een paar kilometer verder weer terugkomen.
Als mijn post niet duidelijk is, moet je misschien even je sarcasmeradar aanzetten.
  Moderator woensdag 24 april 2019 @ 13:41:29 #30
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Er ís al een animatieserie. :)

Ontopic; altijd leuk die tijdreisafleveringen, maar ze verneuken die causaliteit nu wel heel erg; je wordt in actie gebracht daar zaken die jij in de toekomst met terugwerkende kracht gaat veranderen.
Die heb ik al gezien ik had het over een andere 'the lower decks'
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  Moderator woensdag 24 april 2019 @ 13:48:28 #31
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Ik meende het gisteren ergens gelezen te hebben, maar kan het niet meer terugvinden dus neem aan dat het ook niet heel erg betrouwbaar is.
Bedoelde je niet The Voth die oorspronkelijk afkomstig zijn van de aarde maar kolonies in het delta quadrant hebben?
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Bedoelde je niet The Voth die oorspronkelijk afkomstig zijn van de aarde maar kolonies in het delta quadrant hebben?
Zou kunnen, maar was het niet Q die ergens op een punt heeft gezegd dat mensen rond het jaar 3??? de delta quadrant zouden koloniseren. Ik ga er nog even een keer naar op zoek, maar denk neit dat we dat zullen gaan zien in het seizoen.
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Zap net even langs Comedycentral en vanaf 14 mei zenden ze seizoen 1 van The Orville uit.

Ik word er blij van :)
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Huis van Spock uit Discovery staat te koop: https://www.blogto.com/re(...)egral-house-toronto/
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  maandag 6 mei 2019 @ 15:33:24 #35
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Zap net even langs Comedycentral en vanaf 14 mei zenden ze seizoen 1 van The Orville uit.

Ik word er blij van :)
The Orville is echt zoveel meer "Star Trek" dan DiS.

Vooral die alternate universe episode was vet.

Maar wel erg offtopic haha
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DEEP SPACE 9

Ira Steven Behr on Passion Project That Dominated Six Years of His Life

His 'Deep Space Nine' doc, 'What We Left Behind' heads to theaters on May 13th for a one night only experience.

BY STARTREK.COM STAFF / MAY 9, 2019 2:00 PM EDT

The day can’t arrive fast enough for many Star Trek fans; on May 13, the documentary What We Left Behind: Looking Back at Star Trek: Deep Space Nine will beam into 800-plus movie theaters nationwide as part of a one-time-only Fathom Event.

Long time Star Trek: Deep Space Nine writer-producer Ira Steven Behr teamed with veteran Trek documentary producer David Zappone to co-direct What We Left Behind. Together, they’ve crafted a riveting feature-length exploration of DS9 that examines the show’s complicated history (it’s too dark!), ambitious production (those huge sets!!) and enduring legacy (everything’s serialized now!!!). The entire DS9 cast – with one massive exception – and much of the show’s crew (including Rick Berman) appears on camera, providing new interviews exclusive to Behr's documentary. Other highlights include freshly remastered HD footage of DS9 scenes, heartfelt fan confessionals, and a cool, partially animated sequence that features former members of the show’s staff breaking the story for a mythical eighth-season premiere.

During a phone call earlier this week, Behr talked to StarTrek.com about everything from what it's like to crowdsource a major documentary, the importance of DS9's fierce fanbase, and the curious absence of Avery Brooks.



StarTrek.com: Why did you want to make a documentary?

Ira Steven Behr: I had gone to my first convention in 13 years to see Avery Brooks. I hadn't talked to Avery, hadn't seen him, so we had quite the reunion. This is in 2012. I was in a really good mood, actually, and it was good seeing a lot of people I hadn't seen for a while. I was standing on the convention floor and Dave Zappone came up behind me and said, "I'm thinking of doing a Deep Space Nine doc. Shatner's not going to do it because he did three Trek docs in a row." He asked, how would I like to 'be' Bill Shatner and do a doc on DS9 and interview all the actors. I was quite surprised. It was nothing I’d thought about in the past, nothing I’d been jones-ing to do. I said, "What's it about?" He said, "Don't worry. We'll find it was we go along."

Is that what happened?

ISB: Ultimately, that is what happened. It took a while, but that is what happened. So, I said yes without really thinking. It's just something I fell into, and it grew and grew over these many years.

Much of the film had been shot already when the creative team raised additional money via crowdsourcing from fans. Take us through that aspect of the process.

ISB: That did not happen for a couple of years. We had filmed the writer's room already. It was still going to be an hour doc. I’d done a whole bunch of interviews. That was all long before the crowdfunding. So, the crowdfunding was another thing that just happened. Dave called me. We hadn't done much for a while. They went off and did the Spock doc. Then, he said, "We need to do a campaign." I said, "Why?" He said, "To finish it off. To do the music and the animation for the writers’ room sequence." I said, "How much are we asking for?" He said, "$150,000." I said, "Are we going to make that?" He said, "I think so." I said, "I don't want to do it unless you can guarantee we'll make it." He goes, "I'm pretty sure we'll make it." We wound up making that in 29 hours. Next thing I knew, it was a feature doc.

The fan confessionals, most of which were grabbed at STLV, are pretty revealing. Given that the fans had such a hand in this, how vital was it to you to get their first person input — and what do you feel their input adds to your film?

ISB: The idea of the documentary being about family is something that just grew over time. So, it started out with the actors, went to the writers, went to the crew, and — after the Indiegogo campaign — [went to] the fans. I’d been pretty vocal back during the show years about a certain sense of disappointment I had with the fan base and their seeming inability to accept new [ideas] when it came to Star Trek. They were always complaining that [DS9] wasn't like the previous shows. So, I was a little disappointed with the fans back in the day, but clearly times have changed. Streaming, binge-ing… there was a whole new fan base coming in. They certainly showed the bona fides with the Indiegogo campaign, and I figured they just had to be a part of the doc, and let's hear what they have to say.

I always knew that the military, even back in the day, was very pro-Deep Space Nine. People who served seemed to really have an affinity for the series. I always found that interesting. Now, it had seemed to have spread. Young fans, old fans, outsider fans. I wanted them all to be a part of the doc. When we were doing the special features, one of the things we talked about was I really wanted to include the fans even in the special features. It just seems like a normal progression.

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So much of the film is about Avery Brooks, what he brought to DS9 as a Black man, a father figure, and a director. Yet, he's only represented by archive footage. How involved was he behind the scenes and how tough was it to detail his importance without his direct involvement?

ISB: The fact that he plays a significant role just came along as we were editing it over this period of time. Really, it was part of finding the film. That wasn't a mandate. He was obviously an important part of the film beyond his acting — [he was important in] what he came to represent, especially after 2016 and what's been going on in this country.

When I had that reunion with Avery, if you’d told me that he wasn't going to be in the doc, I would never have believed it because we had such fantastic reunion. We hugged for a long time. We hugged it out like the clock was ticking for that hug. So, I never would’ve thought he wouldn't be involved. But that was his decision. There would not have been a writer's room segment if it wasn't for Avery. As I say in the doc, Avery kept saying, "You know, man, you're going to get caught up in the same old stuff. You're going to get caught up in that talking head thing, and it's just going to be another doc." That little voice was in my head all through the years, and that's why I didn't want to go linear. I kept telling guys, "We're not doing Deep Space Nine 101. This is not a doc for people who've never seen the show or don't care about Trek. We'll never win people over with this."

So, he was involved. Was it disappointing that we couldn't interview him? Of course. What other Trek series would not have the captain involved? Name me one other show. You can't. So, don't even try. But that's what makes Deep Space Nine so unique. It was the perfect obstacle to be thrown in in our path from the get-go, that our number one on the call sheet was not going to be involved. Makes it more interesting.

The Deep Space Nine Promenade has some important new design features in this animated sneak peek into the imagined ‘Deep Space Nine’ Season 8 (courtesy of ‘What We Left Behind’)
The Deep Space Nine Promenade has some important new design features in this animated sneak peek into the imagined ‘Deep Space Nine’ Season 8 (courtesy of ‘What We Left Behind’)
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What did you personally learn about the DS9 experience that you didn't know before making the documentary?

ISB: I discovered a lot of different things. I think from doing the interviews, especially with the cast, with some of the crew, too, I found it amazing how the same trajectory would play out. Before we actually sat down [to interview our subjects, they'd have] all these guidelines: “I don't remember;” “Don't ask me specific questions;” “I don't remember names of episodes or names of characters;” “Don't show me up;” “I haven't thought about this for a long time.”

There was a feeling of they were doing this because I asked them to, and they felt they couldn't say no. Very few of the actors were jonesing to talk about Deep Space Nine on any heavy level. As the conversations went on, I’d see them open up. I’d see them suddenly own the show — literally, own the show as the interview would go on. So, what I learned is that most people, in this case creative people, are more comfortable probably talking about failures than successes; I think they realized how much the show meant to them as they talked about it. A lot of them got very emotional. I thought that was really interesting, that it's okay to embrace something you feel good about, even if it’s 20 years ago.

You led the charge for story serialization with DS9. Star Trek: Discovery is extremely serialized. The Picard show is being billed as a 10-part movie. How much satisfaction do you take in knowing you help set the stage for serialization, not just in Trek, but in general in contemporary TV?

ISB: The fact that Discovery is serialized or that Picard is serialized doesn't mean much to me, because how could they not be serialized in 2019? They get to just stay with the times. It's easy to be serialized now. Thank God they're doing that, but it would only be worthy of discussion if they didn't do it. The serialization [on DS9] was a bold move. I look back at it now and I was really a bit of an asshole, because everyone was saying people can't keep up with it. The show was syndicated and on at different times. I didn't care about any of that. I just wanted to do the best show we could do. I could understand why certain people involved and other producers and studios would feel that that was a little bit of an annoying take, because it did hurt the fan base, but at the time, I wasn't thinking about the future. I just wanted to do the best show we could do.

What's next for you?

ISB: What's next for me? That's a good question. I fired my agent. So, I don't know. This was the worst time to have this happen, with the Writer's Guild and this agent dust up. I don't think it's going to be another documentary! I don't think I have enough years left to do another documentary for six years, seven years.

Tickets for What We Left Behind: Looking Back at Star Trek: Deep Space Nine are still available at www.FathomEvents.com and participating theater box offices. Following the feature presentation, fans will be treated to a taped roundtable discussion with Behr, Zappone, and the film’s producers. Attendees will also receive an exclusive double-sided poster with the theatrical poster art for What We Left Behind on one side, and an original illustration from the film on the other.
  FOK!-Schrikkelbaas zondag 12 mei 2019 @ 20:02:34 #37
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Cool, DS9 heb ik altijd de beste van het rijtje gevonden.
Ik herken ook aardig wat van de foto. Met de blauwe baard is Ira Steven Behr, rechts naast hem staat Marc Alaimo (Dukat), iets verderop, tussen twee schouders door piept Armin Shimerman (Quark) tevoorschijn, met direct achter hem Rene Auberjonois (Odo), rechts daar weer van, grijs pak: Jeffrey Combs (Weyoun), met direct naast hem Nicole DeBoer (Ezri Dax), de aziaat verderop, Michael Okuda, met zijn vrouw Denise Okuda, verantwoordelijk voor vele ontwerpen van TNG, DS9 en Voyager. helemaal rechts, Aron Eisenberg (Nog), volgens mij staat hij naast Nana Visitor (Kira)
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atticanibal twitterde op zondag 12-05-2019 om 09:52:18 Things you see walking around the neighbourhood. https://t.co/sQZ69d4GyA reageer retweet
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Picard serie naar Amazon Prime: F&S / [Amazon Prime Video] Algemeen topic
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  Moderator woensdag 15 mei 2019 @ 13:12:16 #40
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7s.gif Op woensdag 15 mei 2019 07:25 schreef Aether het volgende:
Picard serie naar Amazon Prime: F&S / [Amazon Prime Video] Algemeen topic
-O- waarom kunnen dingen niet gewoon centraal staan, al die versnippering... :{
En mochten we vallen dan is het omhoog. - Krang (uit: Pantani)
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2s.gif Op woensdag 15 mei 2019 13:12 schreef Bosbeetle het volgende:

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-O- waarom kunnen dingen niet gewoon centraal staan, al die versnippering... :{
Ze staan ook centraal bij CBS.
Maar CBS is niet buiten Noord-Amerika te ontvangen :P
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  Moderator maandag 20 mei 2019 @ 18:30:57 #42
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StarTrek twitterde op woensdag 15-05-2019 om 23:30:13 #StarTrek: Picard will stream exclusively on @CBSAllAccess in the United States, on Amazon #PrimeVideo in more than 200 countries and territories and in Canada on Bell Media’s @SpaceChannel and OTT service @CraveCanada. @StarTrekCBS @primevideouk https://t.co/f3mVPY449M https://t.co/iDrmtDiQLg reageer retweet
Niet op Netflix maar op Amazon -O-. Hopelijk is dit geen voorbode voor de andere Star Trek-series.

Hopelijk pikt Netflix de Picardserie alsnog op.
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Waarschijnlijk niet omdat Prime ook in Nederland te krijgen is. De hoop is dat ze het hele seizoen er in een keer opgooien zodat je een maandje kunt nemen om te bingen.
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The Breach (2003)

[Dr. Phlox takes a ball of hair out of a small cage]

Ensign Hoshi Sato: What is that?

Dr. Phlox: It won't bite. It's called a tribble.

[he hands the tribble to Hoshi]

Dr. Phlox: It was extremely difficult to acquire. They're outlawed on most worlds.

Ensign Hoshi Sato: Why? Is it dangerous?

Dr. Phlox: Oh, far from it. All it's capable of doing, really, is eating and breeding. The problem is, they breed quite prodigiously.

[Phlox takes the tribble and feeds it to one of his other creatures]

Dr. Phlox: The only thing that keeps their population in check is the abundance of reptiles on their homeworld.
Tribbles O+
  Moderator maandag 20 mei 2019 @ 21:51:42 #45
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11s.gif Op maandag 20 mei 2019 18:30 schreef DaMart het volgende:
StarTrek twitterde op woensdag 15-05-2019 om 23:30:13 #StarTrek: Picard will stream exclusively on @:CBSAllAccess in the United States, on Amazon #PrimeVideo in more than 200 countries and territories and in Canada on Bell Media’s @:SpaceChannel and OTT service @:CraveCanada. @:StarTrekCBS @:primevideouk https://t.co/f3mVPY449M https://t.co/iDrmtDiQLg reageer retweet
Niet op Netflix maar op Amazon -O-. Hopelijk is dit geen voorbode voor de andere Star Trek-series.

Hopelijk pikt Netflix de Picardserie alsnog op.
Denk dat Amazon gewoon een goed bod gedaan heeft en hoopt zo wat extra abos te slijten. Ze gaan trouwens niet het hele seizoen erop gooien...

Dit gaat niet op netflix komen jammer genoeg.
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2s.gif Op maandag 20 mei 2019 20:25 schreef Karstman het volgende:
Waarschijnlijk niet omdat Prime ook in Nederland te krijgen is. De hoop is dat ze het hele seizoen er in een keer opgooien zodat je een maandje kunt nemen om te bingen.
Of je wacht tot ze allemaal uit zijn en neem je Amazon Prime voor een maand om te bingen.
  Public Relations / Redactie Film dinsdag 21 mei 2019 @ 07:49:02 #47
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Franchises spreiden over meerdere streaming aanbieders... hoezo je consument verwarren?

De streaming war is een gegeven en is goed voor de consument. Maar dit vind ik maar vervelend.
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 21 mei 2019 07:49 schreef Roberto_BOZ het volgende:
Franchises spreiden over meerdere streaming aanbieders... hoezo je consument verwarren?

De streaming war is een gegeven en is goed voor de consument. Maar dit vind ik maar vervelend.
Ik ben er ook niet blij mee. Amazon zal wel meer geld geboden hebben. Ze hebben natuurlijk ook veel meer geld.
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maar ik ben een trekkie, dus kut of niet kut ik moet het kijken om te oordelen
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7s.gif Op woensdag 15 mei 2019 07:25 schreef Aether het volgende:
Picard serie naar Amazon Prime: F&S / [Amazon Prime Video] Algemeen topic
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