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  woensdag 28 november 2018 @ 21:28:59 #101
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3s.gif Op woensdag 28 november 2018 21:09 schreef Re het volgende:
als er iemand 4D chess speelt is het Mueller wel
Laten we nog maar even afwachten wat er daadwerkelijk gespeeld wordt om teleurstelling te voorkomen.
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1s.gif Op woensdag 28 november 2018 21:18 schreef Monolith het volgende:

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Ja die is natuurlijk gepokt en gemazeld, terwijl de advocaten van Trump hem moeten smeken om geen domme dingen te doen.
Het morele faillissement van de GOP zorgt er natuurlijk voor dat Trump zelf vrijwel zeker buiten schot blijft ongeacht de uitkomst van het onderzoek, maar zijn familie is nog best een potentieel interessant doelwit.
Zelfs in het beste geval voor hem heeft Trump nog 6 jaar presidentiŰle immuniteit. Als vast komt te staan dat hij voordat hij president werd misdaden heeft gepleegd, zal hij niet buiten schot blijven. De meeste experts zijn het er immers over eens dat hij zichzelf geen pardon mag en kan geven. En al helemaal niet voor eventuele misdaden die op staatsniveau gepleegd zijn.

Er is wel een scenario denkbaar waarin Trump voortijdig wordt afgezet/ontslag neemt en van Pence een pardon krijgt, Ó la Ford/Nixon.
  woensdag 28 november 2018 @ 21:43:36 #103
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Laten we nog maar even afwachten wat er daadwerkelijk gespeeld wordt om teleurstelling te voorkomen.
ja tuurlijk maar hoe toevallig dat je en geen gag order geeft (Stone wel) en je wat tot nadat Trump de vragen heeft ingeleverd, plus neteen tweet van cadet bone-spurs in chief over die vragen... maar idd eerst even kijken wat die Corsi heeft uitgevreten, die draft indictment (of wat is het) staat vol met leuke links tussen Trump en Assange
04-08-11, 02-02-12, 20-06-14, 13-08-15
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De democraten in Wisconsin maken zich zorgen over of de republikeinen hun gegerrymanderde meerderheid in de lame-duck sessie zouden gebruiken om de nieuw verkozen democratische governor een veto (of anderszins invloed) te ontzeggen bij nieuw te tekenen districten in 2020.

Wisconsin Democrats fear GOP redistricting end-around
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0s.gif Op woensdag 28 november 2018 22:01 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:
De democraten in Wisconsin maken zich zorgen over of de republikeinen hun gegerrymanderde meerderheid in de lame-duck sessie zouden gebruiken om de nieuw verkozen democratische governor een veto (of anderszins invloed) te ontzeggen bij nieuw te tekenen districten in 2020.

Wisconsin Democrats fear GOP redistricting end-around
Heeft de GOP ook in North Carolina gedaan.
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1s.gif Op woensdag 28 november 2018 22:25 schreef westwoodblvd het volgende:

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Heeft de GOP ook in North Carolina gedaan.
Yep, hoewel dat geen stand hield en de republikeinen in dit geval ontkennen.
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De senaat stemt in met het intrekken van de steun aan S-A in Jemen:
https://www.politico.com/(...)upport-yemen-1025657
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  Redactie Frontpage woensdag 28 november 2018 @ 22:49:07 #108
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De senaat stemt in met het intrekken van de steun aan S-A in Jemen:
https://www.politico.com/(...)upport-yemen-1025657
Dit is slechts de stem om tot een debat+stemming te komen hierover toch?
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1s.gif Op woensdag 28 november 2018 22:49 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:

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Dit is slechts de stem om tot een debat+stemming te komen hierover toch?
Ah je hebt gelijk. Ik las even Bill ipv bid. :P
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0s.gif Op woensdag 28 november 2018 22:26 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:

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Yep, hoewel dat geen stand hield en de republikeinen in dit geval ontkennen.
Hoezo, hield geen stand? Geen van de bevoegdheden die van de gouverneur zijn weggenomen zijn teruggegeven, hoor. Het enige is dat de districten zijn afgewezen door de rechter. Maar dat staat los van de antidemocratische power grab die daar heeft plaatsgevonden.
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1s.gif Op woensdag 28 november 2018 23:16 schreef westwoodblvd het volgende:

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Hoezo, hield geen stand? Geen van de bevoegdheden die van de gouverneur zijn weggenomen zijn teruggegeven, hoor. Het enige is dat de districten zijn afgewezen door de rechter. Maar dat staat los van de antidemocratische power grab die daar heeft plaatsgevonden.
Jawel, zie bv. de tijdslijn hier waarin vanaf 2016 senate bill 4 genoemd wordt: https://ballotpedia.org/C(...)ina_General_Assembly
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Jawel, zie bv. de tijdslijn hier waarin vanaf 2016 senate bill 4 genoemd wordt: https://ballotpedia.org/C(...)ina_General_Assembly
Ja, okÚ, maar dat ziet niet toe op het tekenen van de kiesdistricten, toch? Hoe dan ook zijn de Republikeinen hun vetoproof meerderheid nu kwijt daar.
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SecPompeo twitterde op woensdag 28-11-2018 om 17:02:24 Iran’s regime has no interest in easing Yemeni suffering; the mullahs don’t even care for ordinary Iranians. Saudi Arabia has invested billions to relieve suffering in #Yemen. Iran has invested zero. reageer retweet
chrislhayes twitterde op woensdag 28-11-2018 om 21:04:04 This is monstrously Orwellian. The impurity of Iranian intentions aside, the Saudis are quite literally bombing and starving civilians by the tens of thousands. https://t.co/jyQAAQBt61 reageer retweet
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
  Moderator donderdag 29 november 2018 @ 01:00:41 #114
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SecPompeo twitterde op woensdag 28-11-2018 om 17:02:24 Iran’s regime has no interest in easing Yemeni suffering; the mullahs don’t even care for ordinary Iranians. Saudi Arabia has invested billions to relieve suffering in #Yemen. Iran has invested zero. reageer retweet
Lekker clustermunitie erop flikkeren _O_
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Roger Stone and Jerome Corsi Pushed Seth Rich Lie After Privately Admitting Hackers Stole DNC Emails

Newly released email shows the Russia truthers knew full well who supplied Wikileaks. They kept blaming a murdered staffer, even after his parents begged them to stop.

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Russian hackers weren’t the ones behind the theft of Democratic emails that upended the 2016 presidential race, conspiracy theorist Jerome Corsi told his InfoWars fans last year. Instead, Corsi said, Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich had stolen the emails and was murdered in revenge for the heist.

But Corsi was lying. In an email to Trump confidante Roger Stone in 2016, Corsi acknowledged that in fact hackers were behind the email theft, according to newly released messages.

Despite that admission, both Corsi and Stone played key roles promoting the conspiracy theory about Rich. Stone became one of the first major figures in Trump’s orbit to suggest Rich was murdered over the emails, tweeting on August 10, 2016 that Rich had “ties to DNC heist.”

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jerome_corsi twitterde op maandag 09-07-2018 om 21:28:05 BREAKING NEWS: Witness Prepared to Identify Two Killers of Seth Rich at Tuesday press conference at 1:00PM at the HOLIDAY INN Rosslyn Key Bridge in DC https://t.co/ijhcQNNldN via Alicia Powe, The Gateway Pundit @gatewaypundit reageer retweet
jerome_corsi twitterde op maandag 09-07-2018 om 21:28:06 Jack Burkman, a Washington-based attorney and lobbyist who has worked with a private investigative team to solve the Seth Rich murder mystery, told The Gateway Pundit that the witness has conclusive evidence that will bring Rich’s killers to justice within a month. GATEWAY PUNDIT reageer retweet
Corsi has continued to promote Rich conspiracy theories, appearing in several YouTube videos with other people pushing the Rich hoax. In 2018, he live-streamed a press conference held by another right-wing conspiracy theorist about Rich’s death, analyzing it for “clues” about whether Rich had been involved with WikiLeaks and the email leak.

Corsi has continued to promote Rich conspiracy theories, appearing in several YouTube videos with other people pushing the Rich hoax. In 2018, he live-streamed a press conference held by another right-wing conspiracy theorist about Rich’s death, analyzing it for “clues” about whether Rich had been involved with WikiLeaks and the email leak.
Trump's legal team has joint defense agreement with Stone ally Corsi

"I wanted Jay Sekulow as the president's attorney to know what was happening to me with the Mueller investigation," Corsi said.

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President Donald Trump's legal team has a mutual defense agreement in place with conservative author Jerome Corsi amid special counsel Robert Mueller's probe into the 2016 election, according to Corsi and a source familiar with the arrangement.

Corsi, an associate of Roger Stone, said his lawyer David Gray has spoken with Trump attorney Jay Sekulow on more than one occasion about his dealings with Mueller.

"I wanted Jay Sekulow as the president's attorney to know what was happening to me with the Mueller investigation," said Corsi.

"I did this because I support Donald Trump...I wanted him to survive the Mueller investigation unscathed, which I believe he will, and I want him to be reelected in 2020."

Corsi said he never participated in the calls and, to his knowledge, neither did Trump. A source familiar with the arrangement confirmed the existence of the mutual defense agreement but wouldn't elaborate.

Corsi said Gray described the conversations to him as "very much one way," with Gray updating Sekulow on the proceedings with Mueller.

"In other words we were explaining to Jay Sekulow what was happening to us, and Jay was not explaining what the president was going to do, was not explaining what was happening in other cases," Corsi said.

"They may have talked about Roger Stone, that would be likely. But the president wasn't disclosing his strategy."

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SethAbramson twitterde op donderdag 29-11-2018 om 05:17:48 Corsi told @TheBeatWithAri his trip to Italy was in July 2016. Cohen also took a "vacation" in July 2016 to Italy. Cohen's alibi for why/where he went in Italy has fallen apart. Was Corsi there while Cohen was? Did he/they meet Kremlin agents in Italy--as Papadopoulos did (twice)? reageer retweet
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Cohen showed his passport to BuzzFeed. The only travel into the proper area indicated by passport stamps was a trip to and from Italy from July 9 to 17. WP


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  donderdag 29 november 2018 @ 02:00:13 #116
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Senate panel cancels votes on Trump court picks amid Flake standoff

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Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) announced Wednesday that he is canceling votes on nearly two dozen of President Trump’s judicial nominees that were expected to come up in the Judiciary Committee this week.

The cancellation of the committee’s Thursday business meeting comes as Senate Republicans are in a standoff with outgoing Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), who has vowed to oppose all court picks until he gets a vote on legislation protecting special counsel Robert Mueller.

The notification from the Judiciary Committee didn’t specify when, or if, the committee votes on the nominations would be rescheduled. Six circuit court nominees had been expected to get a vote, as well as 15 district court nominees.

But Grassley warned late Wednesday afternoon that he would likely cancel the meeting unless he could get a deal with Flake that would allow the nominations to move forward.

“We haven’t cancelled the meeting yet,” Grassley said roughly an hour before the announcement. “If we don’t get a positive out of it, we’ll probably cancel the meeting.”
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  donderdag 29 november 2018 @ 04:37:14 #117
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Trump’s night-owl calls to Roger Stone in 2016 draw scrutiny in Mueller probe

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The calls almost always came deep into the night.

Caller ID labeled them “unknown,” but Roger Stone said he knew to pick up quickly during those harried months of the 2016 presidential campaign. There would be a good chance that the voice on the other end of the line would belong to his decades-long friend — the restless, insomniac candidate Donald Trump — dialing from a blocked phone number.

Those nocturnal chats and other contacts between the man who now occupies the Oval Office and an infamous political trickster have come under intensifying scrutiny as special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation bores into whether Stone served as a bridge between Trump and WikiLeaks as the group was publishing hacked Democratic emails.

Mueller’s keen interest in their relationship was laid out in a draft court document revealed this week in which prosecutors drew a direct line between the two men — referring to Stone as someone understood to be in regular contact with senior Trump campaign officials, “including with then-candidate Donald J. Trump.”

The inclusion of the president by name in the draft filing rattled his legal team and indicated how closely the special counsel is scrutinizing what Trump may have learned from Stone about WikiLeaks’ release of emails that prosecutors say were hacked by Russian intelligence operatives.

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  donderdag 29 november 2018 @ 04:45:17 #118
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Manafort Lied About Business Dealings, Mueller’s Team Believes

Statements, which the former Trump aide describes as truthful, led the special counsel to end his plea agreement

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Paul Manafort’s alleged misstatements to special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigators include comments about his personal business dealings and about his contacts with a former associate in Ukraine, say people familiar with the matter.

Those statements—among those described by Mr. Mueller as “lies” and Mr. Manafort as “truthful information” in a court filing Monday—are what led the special counsel this week to take the unusual step of ending the former Trump campaign chairman’s plea agreement 2½ months after it was reached, the people said.

The content of those statements don’t appear to be central to the allegations of Russian interference in the 2016 election that Mr. Mueller is investigating. It is unclear if prosecutors plan to accuse Mr. Manafort of additional lies.

But Mr. Mueller’s move to end the cooperation deal reflects more broadly a combative relationship that has developed between Mr. Manafort and Mr. Mueller’s investigators, as well as the special counsel’s conclusion that Mr. Manafort fell short of his cooperation agreement, court filings show.

Investigators alleged that Mr. Manafort made inaccurate statements in interviews with Mr. Mueller’s team about his communications with Konstantin Kilimnik, said the people familiar with the matter.

Mr. Kilimnik, who Mr. Mueller charged earlier this year along with Mr. Manafort with trying to influence the testimony of two witnesses against Mr. Manafort, had worked for Mr. Manafort’s lobbying firm in Ukraine. Messrs. Manafort and Kilimnik communicated earlier this year about contacting others who worked with them in an alleged effort to coordinate their stories, according to an indictment Mr. Mueller filed against them.

Mr. Kilimnik, whom the FBI has assessed to have ties to Russian intelligence, according to a filing by the special counsel’s office, isn’t in custody and hasn’t responded to the charges in court.

A spokesman for Mr. Mueller declined to comment.

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  donderdag 29 november 2018 @ 06:41:26 #119
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ScottMStedman twitterde op donderdag 29-11-2018 om 00:01:27 BREAKING from me/@NatashaBertrand: An explosive letter has been sent to Schiff's office claiming that Papadopoulos coordinated with Russians with Trump's knowledge in the weeks following the election. Authorities are taking the letter "very seriously" https://t.co/3uT4q0g4nL reageer retweet
ScottMStedman twitterde op donderdag 29-11-2018 om 00:24:06 Here it is, folks. We had to redact portions of the letter as to not give away any details about the Papadopoulos confidant. It's real, and federal authorities are investigating thoroughly. https://t.co/mFGwc0usw4 reageer retweet
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11thHour twitterde op donderdag 29-11-2018 om 05:36:12 Fmr. Bush 43 ethics lawyer @RWPUSA on Trump & Manafort's attorneys talking after Manafort took a plea deal from Mueller: "These lawyers better hire some lawyers." Learn more: https://t.co/0pV151IIts #11MSNBC #11thHour https://t.co/cpPV9jLNIk reageer retweet
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Ja, okÚ, maar dat ziet niet toe op het tekenen van de kiesdistricten, toch? Hoe dan ook zijn de Republikeinen hun vetoproof meerderheid nu kwijt daar.
Ik weet eerlijk gezegd niet of de board of elections, waar die bill over ging, ook toeziet op het tekenen van districten. Ik dacht wel dat je het daar over had toen je het er over had dat het eerder ook in NC gebeurde.

Overigens, over die board of elections gesproken, een update over het niet certificeren van het resultaat in NC-9:

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Updated: What we know - and need to know soon - about the Board of Elections 9th District bombshell (Charlotte Observer)


BY THE OBSERVER EDITORIAL BOARD

What’s going on in North Carolina’s 9th Congressional District? An election certification is being held up. The person behind the delay is being a bit coy about it. The public is in the dark. That needs to change — and soon.

The state board of elections refused Tuesday to certify the results of the 9th District race, in which Republican Mark Harris defeated Democrat Dan McCready by 905 votes. That certification was expected to be routine, but election board member Joshua Malcolm raised a last minute issue concerning the 9th and asked board members to remove the results from the list of those to be certified.

Malcolm, a Robeson County Democrat, cited a statute that allowed the board to do so, but he declined to be specific about what caused him to raise his objection. That, in itself, is troubling.

Here’s what we do know:

We know that board members twice voted 9-0 not to certify the 9th District results. That means the board, which consists of Democrats and Republicans, was overwhelmingly persuaded of the seriousness of Malcolm’s concerns.

We know that Elections board spokesman Patrick Gannon told the Associated Press Wednesday that the board is investigating “irregularities” involving absentee ballots in Bladen County, which Harris won by 1,557 votes. We also know that Bladen has what can charitably be described as a colorful political history of alleged arson and fraud.

We know that Malcolm’s move Tuesday was a surprise. Neither campaign knew Malcolm’s complaint was coming, which indicates that it likely doesn’t involve an election day complaint of fraud, at least not one significant enough to cause McCready to call for an investigation before conceding this razor-thin result.

Malcolm’s comments Tuesday also seem to indicate that the issues troubling him are ongoing. “I am not going to turn a blind eye to what took place to the best of my understanding which has been ongoing for a number of years that has repeatedly been referred to the United States attorney and the district attorneys for them to take action and clean it up,” he said. “And in my opinion those things have not taken place.”

Update, 11/28, 6:30 pm: Two sources tell the editorial board that the issue specifically involves a person who allegedly gained access to absentee ballots, perhaps through voters who request them from the county or state. The ballots were filled out for Harris. This individual was suspected of similar fraud in 2016, sources said, but investigators didn’t find enough to prosecute. The number of ballots involved in the 2018 race, however, wouldn’t be enough to swing the outcome to McCready, sources said.

Malcolm isn’t offering specifics, but there are plenty of questions he can answer without jeopardizing an investigation. Such as: Are the issues he raised widespread enough to change the 9th District results? Is he merely trying to get the attention of investigators he feels have been ignoring serious long-term problems?

If that’s the case, mission accomplished. Now stop it. Holding a congressional election hostage is not the appropriate way to resolve longstanding issues, regardless of how serious they might be.

We’re in a fragile period regarding elections in this country. We have a president too ready to declare — even just this week — that results he doesn’t like are tainted. It’s become too common for members of both parties to question the legitimacy of outcomes they don’t like.

Malcolm and the board certainly might have legitimate concerns about fraud or other malfeasance in Bladen, and the investigation raises obvious questions about whether the Harris campaign knew anything about tainted absentee ballots. Malcolm, however, should address whether the issue directly changed the outcome in November’s 9th District race. If so, he owes the public more specifics, immediately. If not, this is not the best way to raise his concerns.
  donderdag 29 november 2018 @ 09:18:09 #122
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SecPompeo twitterde op woensdag 28-11-2018 om 17:02:24 Iran’s regime has no interest in easing Yemeni suffering; the mullahs don’t even care for ordinary Iranians. Saudi Arabia has invested billions to relieve suffering in #Yemen. Iran has invested zero. reageer retweet
chrislhayes twitterde op woensdag 28-11-2018 om 21:04:04 This is monstrously Orwellian. The impurity of Iranian intentions aside, the Saudis are quite literally bombing and starving civilians by the tens of thousands. https://t.co/jyQAAQBt61 reageer retweet
Dit moet een grap zijn. De hoofdoorzaak dat de burgers daar sterven zijn de bommen en blokkade van SA.

Hoeveel betaalt SA voor deze propaganda.
1/10 Van de rappers dankt zijn bestaan in Amerika aan de Nederlanders die zijn voorouders met een cruiseschip uit hun hongerige landen ophaalde om te werken op prachtige plantages.
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"Relieve suffering" als eufemisme voor mensen vermoorden past wel goed bij Amerika.

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Hoeveel betaalt SA voor deze propaganda.
Billions of dollars, millions of jobs.
He's simple, he's dumb, he's the pilot.
  donderdag 29 november 2018 @ 10:00:56 #125
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Laten we nog maar even afwachten wat er daadwerkelijk gespeeld wordt om teleurstelling te voorkomen.
Mueller volgt hetzelfde pad als indertijd Archibald Cox, er zijn nu verschillende personen opgepakt Ún hebben bekend. Nixon riep ook dat het allemaal een heksenjacht was en werkte het onderzoek achter de schermen tegen. Als Trump denkt dat hij door open kaart te spelen en vertraagd hetzelfde kunstje als Nixon kan flikken en dat hij hiermee weg kan komen, zal hij er achter komen dat de FBI onwrikbaar verankerd zit in de constitutie.
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