SterrennachtHet wordt vervelend. Voortdurend gelul over hoe de Apollo-astronauten nooit sterren hebben gezien en er nooit over gesproken hebben.
Oh ja, je zult het vaak vinden als ze zeggen dat ze het niet kunnen zien, of dat het moeilijk is om ze te zien, of dat ze er geen kunnen vinden, en dit wordt gegrepen door verkeerd geïnformeerde en bijziende vreugde door hoaxers. Wat ze nooit zien, zijn de omstandigheden van die woorden. Het felle licht in de cabine, de zonne/aarde/maaneschijn, het heldere maanoppervlak, enzovoort enzovoort.
De conspiracy theorists vermelden nooit dat de astronauten het tijdens de missies over sterren hadden, en sterren regelmatig werden gebruikt tijdens de missies.
In transcripties (en laten we niet vergeten dat dit de woordverslagen zijn van wat live aan verveelde journalisten werd gevoed in missiecontrole) staan vermeldingen van planeten en sterren.
Ik zocht in de transcripties naar planeetnamen, "sterren", "planeet" en "sterrenbeeld". Als er een zinloze tussenkomst van Capcom is of een deel van een spraakcommunicatie die niets toevoegt aan de quote van de sterren, heb ik ze verwijderd.
Voel je vrij om de transcripties zelf te controleren. Transcripties zijn ook te vinden op de
ALSJ en
AFJ samen met video's, foto's en andere informatie.
Ik heb me vooral niet bezig gehouden met navigatie gesprekken omdat het te technisch is en niet echt iets toevoegt, bijvoorbeeld van Apollo 11:
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32833 228, DELTA-V C 32625 24 1510 355. Next three lines are NA. NOUN 61 plus ll03, minus - minus 17237 11806 36275 195 04 52. Your set stars are Deneb and Vega, 242 172 012. We like two-jet ullage to 16 seconds. The horizon will be on the il-degree mark at TIG minus 2 minutes. And other comments: your sextant star is visible after GET of 134 50.”
Hoewel als het een leuke beschrijving is of iets interessants toevoegt, heb ik het opgenomen.
Als je echt honderden referenties naar sterren wilt vinden, probeer dan te zoeken naar 'Nunki', of 'Sirius', of Altair, of een van de andere genummerde en benoemde sterren die ze hadden in hun sterrenkaarten. Dit is voorbeeld van een van de kaarten:
Je kunt ook de transcripten van
Apollo 9 op deze pagina lezen, waarin hun werk wordt beschreven bij het testen van de identificatie van sterren en navigatieprocedures.
Ter referentie: elke quote heeft een tijd die wordt uitgedrukt in dagen, uren, minuten en seconden, en de woorden worden gesproken door de missiecommandant (CDR), Command Module Pilot (CMP) en de Lunar Module Pilot (LMP).
Het enige wat we nu hoeven te doen is wachten op iemand beweert dat ze met geregelde tussenpozen sterren moeten noemen om de schijn op te houden....
Transcripties:Apollo 7
00 00 44 58 LMP Hey, I'll tell you something. The stars are clearer here than I’ve seen them on the ground, I can point out Pleiades very nicely.
00 20 08 13 CMP Roger. I was Just doing a little star examination here at sunset with the sun at my back, so to speak, and you can see stars - quite a few - out the telescope.
07 08 33 01 CMP I Just looked outside. There's a beautiful planet up here over Scorpio. I don't know which one it is, but it sure is bright.
07 19 34 50 CDR It's a real pretty sight; we got the sunrise, "yewpiter", and then the moon, all within about 8 degrees of each other.
Apollo 800 00 51 01 LMP I can see a lot of stars over on this side.
00 06 36 59 CDR We're on the PTC mode now waiting for Jim, and I noticed that out my window now I can see Orion very clearly, even though the Sun is bright in the other window.
00 13 32 42 CMP I have no difficulty in finding these stars in the sextant. I also had no difficulty in spotting the stars I used, such as Sirius, Procyon, or Canopus against the Earth during our star-horizon measurements. I can see all three of those stars against the Earth background.
01 12 16 05 CMP Now the attitude I found that the optics are best at are the attitudes which give the constellations Canis Major and Orion in the scanning telescope. At this, this particular attitude of the spacecraft, the band is gone; we're in a position whereby the Sun is behind us, and I can see quite a few stars. Now yesterday I could also, after getting dark-adapted, see quite a few stars around the constellation Cassiopeia which at first I couldn't. But right now this band precludes you see anything at all except Arcturus which, of course, I know we're aiming at right now.
01 19 39 39 CMP at this distance, there is no problem - there is no problem in seeing stars in the daylight at this distance.
01 19 40:36 CMP I'm looking out the window right now. I have the lights out in the spacecraft, the window covered where the Sun is, and I can see the stars very well out the left rendezvous window.
03 16 48 40 CMP I see the limb, and I see the stars coming up
Apollo 900 02 34 32 LMP I can see the - the stars in the Big Dipper here.
00 04 09 11 LMP Oh, beautiful, beautiful. Look at all those white stars!
00 06 39 00 CDR Hey, there's the Big Dipper over there.
00 06 57 43 LMP Boy, are those stars bright out there.
00 06 57 50 CMP The old Southern Cross. Hey, wonder if I can see the Magellanic Clouds?
00 07 05 19 CMP Okay, the daylight star check, started out about 10 seconds prior to the official sunrise, and counted through to about 19 stars, the last few of which were in the Big Dipper - Well, the Big Dipper is the last one to remain visible starting from the upper right quadrant, going counterclockwise. When the sun came up, it filled the inside of the quad, and one of the jets on the LM quad that sticks down, the one that points to about - it's like about minus X. And as soon as that filled up with light, it washed out everything but a couple or three stars and the Big Dipper.
00 08 12 27 CDR Look, Dave. We're getting some stars out there.
05 19 59 50 CMP Incidentally, found Jupiter in the sextant the other day, and you can see the four moons around Jupiter.
06 01 04 44 LMP Boy, a whole bunch of stars. Oodles of them
07 02 23 18 CMP I'll tell you, one thing I'm learning on this trip is the southern stars.
08 02 33 51 LMP Oh, my god! Stars!-
08 02 30 14 CMP Hey, Jim, the two Magellanic Clouds are right out the front window.
Apollo 1000 23 55 44 CMP I did recognise what I believed to be mars, off the earth, and Jupiter because of its four moons
01 00 19 27 CDR Just a second ago, when the sun was in the right side window, number 5 window, I can see on the Southern Cross, Aerux and alpha beta Centauri out my left window and charts the first time we've been able to see it... John couldn't see many other stars, Just the real big ones, you know, like alpha beta Centauri and Acrux. Now as the sun moves on around, they've disappeared, but that's the first glimpse of any stars I've gotten.
01 02 04 42 CMP Looks like we're going to be able to see stars, because the LM is shielding us from the sun
01 02 06 12 CDR Okay, I can see the stars real good out the side wlndow I've got Sirius out my side window, but even out through the rendezvous window i can look up there and I've got Orion and Rigel there.
01 21 17 27 CMP I've already got Jupiter and you can recognize it because of its moons
04 08 08 00 CMP Here comes Scorpio. That's what you head in. Stand by.
06 02 27 23 CMP We were able to recognize the Big Bear, the Big Lion and, of course, Jupiter, Arcturus, Alphecca, and even old Basalhague, and the Navigator's Triangle. And then due to the Sun, things sort of get washed out, and they get washed out right on around until you pick up the Big Dipper again. But I'll tell you that's the first time trans-lunar and trans-earth that I was ever able to recognize a constellation and that is really encouraging.
06 08 33 10 LMP Okay. The Moon and the Earth are the same relative size to us now. The planet Jupiter is easily visible about 5 diameters from the Moon. We can see stars within 6 diameters of the Moon.
Apollo 1100 00 46 45 CDR I can see some stars
00 02 48 07 CMP I see a bright star out there, must be Venus. Forgot to memorize John Mayer's views out the window well enough to say that's Venus or not, but it's sure bright.
02 00 49 44 CMP My guess would be the telescope's probably pretty useless, but you can differentiate in the sextant between water droplets and stars by the difference in their motions.
02 23 59 20 CDR Houston, it's been a real change for us. Now we are able to see stars again and recognize constellations for the first time on the trip. It's - the sky is full of stars. Just like the nightside of Earth. But all the way here, we have only been able to see stars occasionally and perhaps through the monocular, but not recognize any star patterns.
03 05 07 07 LMP Houston, when a star sets up here, there's no doubt about it. One instant it's there, and the next instant it's just completely gone.
05 03 21 05 LMP (TRANQ) And it looks like in detent 6 I can pick up Venus right at the fringe, but I can't get anything else.
Apollo 1200 02 09 37 CDR I got a bunch of stars out my window, now.
03 13 26 17 CDR Gad, there's stars out there; can't believe it.
03 13 27 53 LMP What else is out there? There's all kinds of stars, but I don't recognize any.
03 13 28 14 CDR Hey, there's all kinds of stars out there now.
04 12 47 06 CDR Man, there go the stars.
04 12 47 30 CDR Well, let me get that heater off again. The Moon's not in the way. There's nothing but stars out there, buddy.
04 12 55 39 CDR Who said you couldn't look out the AOT and - and -and see this thing? Hell, I can see the stars in broad daylight with the cockpit lights up.
04 14 55 51 CDR Boy, you can sure see the stars out of this AOT. I'm in detent 1 right now, looking at Sirius, and I can see the whole constellation.
06 18 57 04 CDR And when you were sitting sideways - I could see all these stars out that window. And, all of a sudden, it just was black. In fact, it was like that ... thing - It's like somebody in the simulator put a - a ..., and they had had a - one that was too small - you know, the - the sphere was too small.
08 03 03 53 CMP That's affirmative. No problem with the stars at all. Venus - Venus, of course, looked like about four of them put together.
08 03 04 03 CMP Actually, it's - It's a very easy planet to use for the simple reason that you can take the horizon and strip the image of Venus so that you get a pretty good mark off of it….and the rest - the rest of them, the stars are so dim that you really can't do that. All you can do is get the star down to the horizon, but with Venus, you can actually split the planet with the horizon.
09 20 03 58 CMP Hey, would you check with the boys in the back room? Should I have - be having any trouble with Jupiter, as far as seeing it or not? I can't see it. Do I have a right vector in?
CMP Hello, Houston; 12. It's all right. I got it now.
10 01 30 52 CDR Venus is just below the Earth, and we can see Venus quite clearly, well, you can see all kinds of stars, but Venus is just below the Earth. This is - This is really a sight to behold, to see it at nighttime like this.
Apollo 1303 04 42 31 CDR Man, look at those stars…We are in the shadow of the Moon now. The Sun is just about set as far as I can see and the stars are all coming out.
03 04 48 20 LMP What do you see out your upper window?
03 04 48 32 CDR Stars.
04 10 36 17 CMP ….Jim and I were able to spot constellations from the windows of the LM when there's no venting taking place.
Apollo 14
00 00 09 27 CMP There's a big outside.
LMP A jillion stars.
00 00 33 24 CMP Man. Those stars are dimmer than they are in the simulator.
00 00 41 39 CDR Boy, those stars are - -
LMP Real good.
CDR - - crystal clear.
00 00 42 28 CDR Well, I'm seeing it ... I'm seeing airglow, Stu. I can see the stars on the other side of it.
03 09 45 24 LMP Man, there are a lot of stars out here in one sector of the sky.
CDR 'What sector are you looking at?
LMP I don't see a sector where there's not any. Usually I don't see them. Oh, the stars?
CMP Yes.
LMP Yes. I've got the Big Dipper floating alongside me ouz here for some time. Could have goneon around Arcturus, Spica, and Gienah. And I can just barely see the Little Dipper up behind us.
03 13 50 41 CDR Sure is strange that we can be able to see the rest of the constellations.
03 13 51 54 LMP I can't see anything but stars.
03 13 51 57 LMP I can't see anything but stars, and we're no longer in earthshine anyhow.
03 14 26 22 LMP Well, it is pitch black out this window. I can see stars out this window.
03 15 19 30 LMP And, Houston, looking to the north, we see the same view. It's a very sharply defined horizon. I can see the stars.
05 22 52 44 CDR Get - Venus up there.
Apollo 1500 01 21 18 CMP Looks like Aquarius coming up back there.
00 02 09 16 LMP Boy, that's - Look at that planet, how orange it is out there, Dave? Directly ahead
08 04 06 32 CMP Yes, there's quite a few stars out there, aren't there?
Apollo 16
00 00 33 43 CDR I forgot, the flood's turned all the way up in here. Stars are out there, Ken, I can see them.
00 00 48 49 CMP Gosh, this is mag - Oh, look at those pretty stars.Look at that. Oh.
00 00 50 44 CMP Oh, I can even see stars now with the reticle turned on. Is it - guess what I got? Antares!
00 02 04 30 LMP Look at the way the stars show up in the daytime.
03 04 06 08 CMP Right now in the telescope, I - I can see the stars now, but I still can't see star patterns.
05 10 35 58 CMP I'm still not having as much success with the telescope as I - as I ought to, and I'm - I'm trying to psych it out. I was going to take a look here a couple of times. I'm not aware of any light in the telescope right now, but you Just can't see any stars in there. And I'm wondering if the Earth is enough still that it - it might blank them out. Because they are obviously there when I look out the window. But they become a great deal more obvious once I get on the back side, or in that double umbra.
06 00 22 35 CMP At least the star patterns all check out. I've got Canopus and Regor and Avoir [? ] and all those stars in sight.
06 05 42 41 CMP But I can see plenty of stars all over the place outside, and I just can't see a thing through that telescope. And I know we could when we were in Earth orbit, because the first thing I thought was that we didn't have it, and then I waited until we got around and looked at a bright part of the sky, and we got hold of Scorpion. It was there and it was all beautiful. And now, I look out there and it's just - there's just nothing there. It's just black. And that's after getting well dark adapted.
06 09 31 56 CMP I got a chance to go back and look at the telescope on one of the last two revs, and found out the problem was that even after I had gone back and taped the eyepieces back on, they still had the tape on them, but the darned things had slipped out of focus with the telescope. And I guess it was far enough out of focus that it - the stars just weren't bright enough to show up. Because while I was sitting there looking in it I could focus it and then the stars would appear and disappear if I defocused it.
06 10 22 14 CMP Hey, you know, I haven't - hadn't gotten around to looking for planets. That's what I was doing the other night when - when things went to worms, and I decided they're probably trying to tell me something. It really is pretty out there, the way you can see all those stars. They - they really stand out. Looks like a planetarium, there's so many.
07 00 04 59 CMP I must have one of the planets right up there above, right in that area, too. Does that sound right? That's around Nunki.
07 00 12 18 CMP Yes, you have Jupiter in my field of view, and all his little moons.
08 11 14 07 LMP You know, Pete, if you took this view that y'all Just saw of the Moon and put in a movie, everybody would say you're faking it. It doesn't look like that. And it's just - you can't see any stars, just pure blackness
10 01 10 32 CDR Yeah, I see stars.
10 01 11 22 CDR: Well, I could see stars there for a while.
10 03 22 52 CDR And we could - and we could manoeuvre the vehicle to ... the stars. I mean, there's no doubt in my mind what you ... see. You can recognise the patterns out here.
Apollo 17
00 00 04 29 CDR I got some stars out the right
00 01 25 19 CDR Look at those stars.
00 02 55 21 LMP Bob, that glow is actually above the horizon, Just in case you're curious. I can see - stars below
00 05 56 46 LMP The interesting thing was the continual glow on the horizon we had, even at night, on the darkside pass. And that glow was in the atmosphere because I could see stars rise over the horizon in it and then pass on through it.
00 21 18 25 CDR Ron, I think, may have saw Saturn out the overhead hatch
05 14 54 44 CMP (Humming) Boy, that's beautiful out there. Nothing but white sky full of stars in a black, black nothing. You can't tell it's the Moon; you can't tell it's anything. Black, round ... Curves.
06 10 27 24 CMP Hey, okay. Sounds good, there's little old Aldebaran in there. Saturn still must be out of the - There it goes into the -
08 18 25 00 LMP All I see is stars.
09 11 29 38 LMP The general [solar corona] glow visible to me now - and of course I'm not very well light adapted - dark-adapted - but extends about to a position - oh, let's see - about the same distance from the Sun as the apparent distance of Venus - between Venus and Mars right now. Well, let me - let me start over on that. The apparent distance from Venus to Mars is about the same distance as from Mars to the limit of the strong solar glow.
09 14 08 45 CDR Okay. I'm looking at ... Is Venus - is Venus - -
LMP Venus just came up.
10 22 11 28 CMP …Hey, I can see a few stars out there on this side of the window.
11 16 05 25 LMP Gosh! Who said there's no stars out there?
11 16 08 22 LMP There's the Dipper and the two pointing stars. They're right like this. Polaris is down there, somewhere.