quote:‘We can’t breathe’: Eric Garner protesters chant his last words
Eighty-three demonstrators arrested at protests held in New York after grand jury refuses to indict police officer who placed unarmed black man in chokehold
The last words of Eric Garner became the rallying cry for protests that swirled in New York after a grand jury refused to indict a police officer who placed the unarmed black man in a chokehold, reigniting racial tensions that have been simmering for months in the US.
“I can’t breathe,” protesters chanted, in mostly peaceful demonstrations that brought longstanding strains over race to the heart of America’s most populous city. Eighty-three arrests were made during the protests overnight, an NYPD spokesman confirmed to the Guardian.
Earlier in the day, prosecutors announced the jury’s decision not to charge Daniel Pantaleo, one of the New York police department officers who had confronted Garner for selling loose cigarettes on Staten Island in July.
The protesters’ anger echoed the tensions in Ferguson, Missouri, the scene of violence and rioting after another grand jury declined to bring charges against a white police office in the killing of Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager suspected of robbing a convenience store. His death sparked hundreds of protests across the country and snapped into focus seething race issues.
Garner, who was black, died in July after being put in a chokehold by Pantaleo. Police had stopped the heavy-set father of six on suspicion of selling untaxed “loose” cigarettes. Garner had been arrested previously for selling untaxed cigarettes, marijuana possession and false impersonation.
A video shot by a bystander shows Garner resisting arrest as a plainclothes officer attempts to handcuff him. Backing away from the officer, Garner tells him: “This stops today,” which has become a rallying cry for protesters in New York. After a struggle during which Garner is wrestled to the ground by several officers, he gasps “I can’t breathe” until his 350lb body goes limp.
Barack Obama, criticised for his response to unrest in Ferguson, suggested the Garner case had reaffirmed his determination to ensure all Americans are treated equally in the criminal justice system.
“When anybody in this country is not being treated equally under the law, that’s a problem,” the president said in Washington. “And it is my job as president to help solve it.”
After the decision not to bring criminal charges in New York, the US attorney general, Eric Holder, announced a federal investigation. “All lives must be valued,” Holder said. “All lives.”
Holder’s announcement was not enough to placate the anger in the city. About 200 protesters partially closed the West Side Highway, before police made several arrests, while other groups descended on various locations in midtown Manhattan, including Grand Central station, the Lincoln tunnel and Brooklyn bridge. Protesters also targeted the annual lighting of the Christmas tree at the Rockefeller Center, but were kept away from the ceremony.
As crowds rallied in Times Square, one young black man likened the treatment of minorities in the US in the 21st century to the early days of slavery. “It goes back to the foundations of the country. We’ve been dehumanised since we’ve been here, and we are being dehumanised now,” he said.
“Every 28 hours a young black man is killed by police,” one young woman told the Guardian, referring to nationwide statistics. “Only 2% of police are indicted. Those numbers are crazy. It’s telling young black men that their lives don’t matter and their deaths can be passed over.”
Groups of protesters continued marching well into the night..
The mayor of New York, Bill de Blasio, had earlier urged calm. De Blasio, who is white, said that he and his wife, Chirlane McCray, who is black, had spent years teaching their mixed-race son, Dante de Blasio, 17, how to “take special care” around police officers.
We “have had to [talk to] Dante for years about the dangers he may face,” de Blasio said in an emotional news conference. “Because of a history that still hangs over us, we’ve had to train him, as families have … in how to take special care in any interaction with the police officers who are there to protect him.”
The New York police department has long denied racial profiling in its law enforcement practices, despite a finding by federal prosecutors in 2000 that the practice was routine for street crimes units.
The mayor called on protesters to remain nonviolent, saying he had just met Ben Garner, Eric Garner’s father. “Eric would not have wanted violence,” the mayor quoted the father as saying.
De Blasio acknowledged the widespread discontent the grand jury decision was likely to cause. “It’s a very emotional day for our city,” he said. “It’s a very painful day for so many people of this city.” The mayor said the country was at a crossroads, calling discrimination and inequality before the law “all our problem”.
“Anyone who believes in the values of this country should feel a call to action right now,” De Blasio said. “It is a moment that change must happen.”
Minutes later, Garner’s family appeared alongside civil rights campaigner the Rev Al Sharpton in Harlem to address the media.
Garner’s widow, Esaw, vowed to continue fighting for justice. “As long as I have breath in my body I will fight the fight,” she said.
In Washington, Holder said that Garner’s death as well as that of unarmed teenager Brown, who was shot dead by police officer Darren Wilson in Ferguson in August, “have tested the sense of trust between law enforcement and the communities they are charged to serve”.
Holder said he respected the rights of protesters to voice their disappointment but called on them to remain peaceful.
Tensions had been simmering all week as New Yorkers braced for the verdict.
Activists called for a day of action following the verdict to protest the decision not to pursue charges against Pantaleo. Protesters have also been demanding an end to a policing philosophy championed by NYPD commissioner William Bratton. The policing model, known as broken windows, emphasises attention to petty crime – such as selling untaxed cigarettes – as a means of stymying large-scale crime.
The decision may compound already frayed relations between the New York police department and minority communities, which Bratton and de Blasio have pledged to repair.
The NYPD outlawed chokeholds over two decades ago, because they can be deadly if administered inappropriately or carelessly. Still, between January 2009 and June 2014, the city’s Civilian Complaint Review Board, an independent agency that investigates police misconduct, received 1,128 civilian complaints involving chokehold allegations. Of these, only a small fraction of the cases are ever substantiated– just ten over the five and a half year window.
In the days after Garner’s death, Bratton said all 35,000 officers would be retrained on the department’s use of force policy.
Sharpton announced a rally in Washington on 13 December. “It’s time for a national march to deal with a national crisis,” he said. “We are not going away.”
quote:Egyptian politicians accuse US of violating rights in Ferguson
CAIRO — A new crisis is looming for US-Egyptian relations after Cairo officials verbally attacked US authorities, accusing them of violating human rights during protests in Ferguson, Mo. Protests were staged in a number of US states following a Missouri grand jury's decision not to indict a police officer who killed Michael Brown, a young African-American man.
This comes after a period of strained relations between Cairo and Washington following the fall of the Muslim Brotherhood and the Egyptian authorities' dispersal of Mohamed Morsi supporters at sit-ins at Rabia al-Adawiya and Nahda squares. Washington adopted punitive measures against the Egyptian army as a sign of opposition to what it deemed violations of peaceful protesters’ rights, even announcing the suspension of a large portion of military aid.
The new tension in US-Egyptian relations comes in light of a rapprochement between Cairo and Moscow, with the announcement of a planned visit to Cairo by Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Egyptian politicians called for the formation of an Egyptian fact-finding committee to track what they called breaches by US authorities against protesters in Ferguson. The Egyptian Foreign Ministry issued an official statement criticizing US police treatment of protesters in the wake of the grand jury decision not to make an indictment. The statement further called on US authorities to observe self-restraint and to respect the right of individuals to peacefully assemble. Moreover, Egyptian Interior Ministry spokesman Hani Abdel Latif said US police used excessive force against peaceful protesters as if they were dealing with arms dealers.
The US State Department refused to compare the human rights situation in the United States with the oppression in Egypt. State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf, in her response to Cairo, said that Americans enjoyed a level of freedom of expression that Egyptians do not, and that it was enough for Washington to address its problems with transparency.
The US media treated Egypt's criticism of human rights conditions in the United States as political scolding, considering that the Egyptian Foreign Ministry's statement employed language similar to that used by the United States, when the latter had urged Cairo to use restraint in dealing with the Brotherhood protesters.
Human rights organizations around the world have the right to monitor breaches in any country, according to Tahani al-Gebali, former vice president of Egypt's Supreme Constitutional Court. Gebali told Al-Monitor that she supported the formation of an Egyptian fact-finding committee to review the human rights situation in Washington.
“The Egyptian committee might include prominent international figures like international criminal judges and figures. We have the necessary competence to achieve this legal task, to investigate the violations of the US authorities of the peaceful protesters of Ferguson,” Gebali said.
When asked whether the proposal to form this committee was prompted by past US criticism of human rights conditions in Egypt, Gebali said, “The situation was different in Egypt, as there was a revolution and a change of rules. As a result, the US’ leaning toward the Brotherhood, which was toppled by the revolution, created doubts about the intentions of US organizations.”
“This does not imply the return of American-Egyptian relations to the way they used to be. On the contrary, it serves the rapprochement between Egyptians and Americans because the people are the ones who triumph in the end. This relationship will live on, while governments change and regimes fall,” she said.
Journalist and politician Mustafa Bakri, who put forth the proposition to form an Egyptian fact-finding committee, told Al-Monitor by phone, “We witnessed human rights breaches against the American people during the recent protests. Even the jury could not issue a verdict incriminating the officer who was accused of murdering a black citizen. This showed public opinion that there is meddling in the US judiciary.”
Bakri believes that Egyptian human rights organizations, including the National Council for Human Rights, should form a committee to listen to testimony and verify the facts. Bakri wondered, “Will Washington allow this committee to do its job or not?”
Bakri said that the Egyptian fact-finding committee is not a form of retaliation against the United States for criticizing Egyptian human rights abuses, but that it stems from the awareness of certain American realities under the current president.
Manal al-Tibi, a member of the National Council for Human Rights, told Al-Monitor that the organization was not ready to give up its domestic responsibilities in Egypt to monitor human rights abroad. She said, “The people calling for forming this committee are definitely playing political games, to transmit a retaliatory message to the US system and human rights organizations as a response to their repetitive criticism for the human rights situation in Egypt lately.”
“As a human rights activist, I certainly do not accept that the US police deals with protesters this way, although I do not know the circumstances of [not indicting] the US police officer accused of killing a black man. However, this is a clear case of racism, and there are many black citizens suffering from discrimination,” she said.
Egypt's criticism of US human rights violations comes as a political message — Cairo is returning the same blow that Barack Obama’s administration and civil society organization leveled against it after June 30.
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quote:Ramsey Orta, who filmed a police officer fatally choking a Staten Island man during an arrest, was arraigned on gun charges yesterday. Orta is convinced the arrest was NYPD-style retribution, telling the Staten Island Advance that he's "100% sure" the cops set him up.
Police say that Orta tried to hide a gun on a 17-year-old girl on Saturday. Orta has been in the spotlight since the Daily News obtained his video documenting the July 17 arrest of Eric Garner, who died while the police were trying to restrain him and put him in a chokehold. Last week, Garner's death was ruled a homicide.
Orta insisted the gun wasn't his, "When they searched me, they didn't find nothing on me. And the same cop that searched me, he told me clearly himself, that karma's a bitch, what goes around comes around," Orta said, adding later, "I had nothing to do with this. I would be stupid to walk around with a gun after me being in the spotlight." He also explained what he was doing out:
quote:LA police shoot and kill man in Hollywood tourist area
Police say man was brandishing a Swiss Army-style knife
LAPD has been under heavy criticism for killing an unarmed man in August
Het artikel gaat verder.quote:Fresh protests were expected in Los Angeles after police shot a man on the tourist-packed Hollywood Walk of Fame, adding another killing to a recent and climbing toll.
Police officers attended one of the most crowded intersections in the city on Friday night, after reports of a man with a knife on Hollywood Boulevard. A man was subsequently shot dead. Some bystanders captured video and pictures of what appeared to be a white man slumped in the road, surrounded by a group of officers with pistols drawn.
The weapon the man was reported to have been brandishing appeared to have been a small Swiss Army-style pocket knife, according to pictures posted by police on social media that showed a numbered crime scene label next to the object.
Er zijn meerdere linkdump topics. Daar is verder niets mis mee.quote:Op zaterdag 6 december 2014 22:22 schreef Fir3fly het volgende:
Ga je alleen maar halve nieuwsberichten posten of kom je ook nog met een mening? Wordt een beetje een linkdump topic zo.
http://www.breitbart.com/(...)Her-Car-and-Beat-Herquote:Another Race-Based Attack In St. Louis: Black Thugs Drag Bosnian Woman Out Of Her Car and Beat Her
A 26-year-old white Bosnian woman was dragged out of her car early this morning and beaten by three black assailants in the same South St. Louis neighborhood that saw a Bosnian man bludgeoned to death with hammers earlier this week.
Police are investigating the attack as a possible hate crime because the victim says the suspects asked her if she was Bosnian during the attack.
Via St. Louis CBS Local:
According to a police report, at about 5:30 a.m., a Bosnian woman was driving on the 4600 block of Lansdowne when three black males in their late-teens to early-20s stepped in front of her vehicle.
When the woman tried to drive around them, the suspects reportedly pulled out a firearm, so she stopped the car.
After hitting her windshield with a crowbar, the suspects pulled the woman from her car, threw her on the ground and kicked her.
A suspect grabbed her purse, searched it, and told the others it was empty. All three suspects then fled the scene.
Police say the woman said she thought the crime was racially motivated because the suspects asked her if she was Bosnian.
St. Louis Mayor Slay has been forced by the evidence to admit the obvious:
“This has all the appearances of a hate crime based on the information that we have,” St. Louis Mayor Francis Slay responds. “The fact that they did suggest that she was a Bosnian – she was a Bosnian lady. We’ve already turned this over to the FBI.”
Early Sunday morning in the same neighborhood, Bosnian Seldin Dranovic was beaten by three teens wielding hammers; but he managed to escape. An hour later Bosnian Zemir Begic would not be so lucky. He was brutally bludgeoned to death by the same groups of thugs.
It is becoming apparent that some blacks in this South St. Louis neighborhood feel a great deal of resentment and animosity toward the Bosnian community.
A YouTube video flagged by Jim Hoft of Gateway Pundit features a delusional black woman named Mary Omni ranting incoherently about Bosnians and suggesting that they deserve to die.
“Ferguson, Bosnian death immigrant warning is this. You are on these black young men 14th birthrights and land rights. If there’s an accident that occurs you are considered the invader and embezzler thief. You came to build a dream on the 14th Constitutional nation of supremacy. Fourteenth biblical inheritors… The Bosnian immigrant was invading. The Bosnian immigrant was joining globalists and they came to America for the American dream at the expense of black infant babies. At the expense of the Mike Brown. At the expense of the black housing. At the expense of the black’s education… The immigrant Bosnian is seen as a foreign invader and a thief.”
She defended those who attacked with hammers on Sunday, declaring that they had "the contract - the Bosnian don't have the contract to be here."
Then, chillingly, she recited the lyrics to the classic folk song, "If I has a Hammer."
If I had a hammer, I hammer in the morning, I hammer in the evening, I hammer out all over this land. I'll hammer out danger, I hammer out warning, I hammer out love between my brothers and my sisters all over this land. So if I had a hammer, I'll hammer in the morning, I'll hammer in the evening, I hammer out justice, I'll hammer out danger and I'll hammer out warning. I'll hammer out love between my brothers and my sisters, all over this land.
She called the Bosnian who was murdered, a casualty of his invasion and thieving and suggested that the murderers were blameless.
The video is entitled Ferguson Bosnian Death Warning!
Zucht. De VS heeft een historie van politiegeweld tegen mensen van kleur, vandaar de woede.quote:Op zondag 7 december 2014 10:23 schreef Kaneelstokje het volgende:
Is het verhaal al voorbij gekomen over de blanke jongen die in januari dit jaar door de politie is doodgeschoten omdat het "te veel tijd kostte"?
Waarschijnlijk niet, want de jongen is blank.
De VS heeft een historie van politiegeweld. Punt.quote:Op zondag 7 december 2014 10:26 schreef robin007bond het volgende:
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Zucht. De VS heeft een historie van politiegeweld tegen mensen van kleur, vandaar de woede.
quote:Op zondag 7 december 2014 10:28 schreef Kaneelstokje het volgende:
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De VS heeft een historie van politiegeweld. Punt.
Simplisme zou zijn: De politie vermoord vaker een neger dan een blanke, ze zijn racistisch.quote:
Er is meer dan genoeg om over te denken, zoals inderdaad de achterlijke welvaartsverdeling. Er zijn echter ook voldoende white-trash gezinnen in Amerika. De onderlaag is enorm en behelst heus niet 100% van de zwarten en 0% van de blanken.quote:Op zondag 7 december 2014 10:33 schreef Kosmoproleet het volgende:
De welvaartsgap tussen een modaal blank gezin en een modaal donker gezin in de USA is groter dan die in Zuid-Afrika onder apartheid.
Genoeg stof tot denken.
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quote:Seaside, CA — A 20 year veteran of the CSU Monterey Bay police force, was given a notice of termination this week for choosing NOT to immediately resort to violent escalation during a confrontation with a suicidal student.
The unidentified officer was the first one on the scene when responding to an incident involving a suicidal college student in his CSUMB dorm room in February of this year. The officer showed a heartening level of restraint when dealing with a student, who was in his room with a knife and hammer, and was also threatening to light himself on fire.
“He was clearly a danger to himself and he was in crisis,” Marina Police Chief Edmundo Rodriguez said. “We were trying to keep him from accessing the weapons or leave, to get him medical attention.”
Instead of immediately resorting to violence, this officer was talking the student down and de-escalating the situation. The officer was successful in calming the student down and was going to get him a glass of water when the Marina police department showed up, and immediately began tasering the student.
The campus officer refused to taser the student, as he did not perceive a threat. Subsequently Rodriguez’s department later issued a “failure to act” complaint against the campus officer, accusing him of not engaging in a “highly agitated situation.”
“It defies logic and is extremely disappointing that, at a time when law enforcement is under fire for using more force than necessary, an officer is being terminated for attempting to use civilized methods to resolve a situation,” the student’s father said.
“Our officer did not believe he was any threat at all,” said Jeff Solomon, the union’s president.
“The other officers started yelling and screaming to get down, Tased him multiple times, and from what we understand (told the university officer) to Tase him again,” Solomon said.
The officer has been on paid leave since April according to his attorney who said she will now file a lawsuit against the university.
“We believe the officer in this case exercised restraint and good judgment in not tasing a student that was suffering from mental health issues,” said the officer’s attorney Kathleen Storm.
This incident highlights the sick and twisted state of today’s police force. Darren Wilson shot and killed an unarmed teenager, and was not fired. Officer Daniel Pantaleo of the NYPD, placed Eric Garner in a chokehold, a maneuver which has been prohibited by the department since 1993, eventually killing the man. The entire incident was caught on video and Pantaleo was not fired.
This campus officer chose to use non-violence to try and resolve a situation, instead of killing or maiming a person, and he is being fired for it.
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quote:The online hacktivist Anonymous has conducted a massive cyber attack on the official website of Oakland police, fire department and city website. As a result all targeted sites have been shut down.
Anonymous targeted the Oakland City Hall, Oakland police and fire departments website around 11 a.m.
It’s been few hours now that all sites are still down and readers are welcomed with warning messages like ”The page cannot be displayed Explanation: There is a problem with the page you are trying to reach and it cannot be displayed.”
quote:The news of targeting these sites was announced by Anonymous on their Twitter account. The cyber attack was conducted under the banner of #ShutItDown and #ICantBreathe. (These hashtags show Anonymous has targeted these sites in retaliation against recent killings of black males in the United States).
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Het artikel gaat verder.quote:Washington (CNN) -- Congressional staffers plan to walk off their jobs Thursday afternoon to show their support for the families of Michael Brown and Eric Garner in the wake of the decision by two grand juries not to indict the police officers responsible for their deaths, according to three staffers who plan to participate in the event.
The planned walkout comes after days of protests across the country, including in Washington, D.C., where demonstrators have marched through downtown, blocking roads and bridges on an almost nightly basis since last Wednesday's decision by a grand jury in Staten Island not to indict Officer Daniel Pantaleo in the chokehold death of Garner.
"We're proud to have this moment of solidarity with the families of Michael Brown and Eric Garner and the thousands of peaceful protesters around the country who are telling this country that black lives matter," said one staffer who was helping to plan the event.
The Congressional Asian Pacific American Staff Association and the Congressional Hispanic Staff Association joined black staffers and the Congressional Black Associates in planning the event, which is set to take place at 3:30 p.m., and is expected to draw at least 50 people. A staffer who planned to attend the protest said it was important to show support across racial lines.
"I believe it's important, because what affects one community really affects the entire country," the staffer told CNN. "It's not just one group of minorities that's affected. How one group is treated affects Asians, Hispanics, women. It's important that we show our solidarity and come together and really speak out about the injustices that are being done."
quote:Cleveland mayor slams government review of city's police force
Mayor Frank Jackson said that he disagreed with the DOJ’s findings, and said that his office would be conducting its own review
The mayor of Cleveland spoke out against a Department of Justice review of the city’s police department that found a pattern of unnecessary and unconstitutional use of force and that was released not long after the fatal shooting of 12-year-old Tamir Rice by a police officer in November.
In a rambling and at times incoherent 90-minute conversation with reporters Thursday, mayor Frank Jackson said that he disagreed with the DOJ’s findings, and said that his office would be conducting its own review.
“In terms of systemic failure, it relieves people of the responsibility to make decisions,” he said, “and people make decisions, and they should be made responsible for their decisions. Do we have problems? Yes. Do we have systemic failures? No.”
On 9 December, Attorney General Eric Holder announced that a civil rights investigation performed by his department found that Cleveland police officers engaged in “a pattern or practice of unreasonable and unnecessary use of force,” including deadly force.
The investigation, which was highly critical of the Cleveland police department, was conducted at the request of the mayor; but while Jackson said he welcomed the report he also appeared to want to distance himself from its findings.
“I just try to do the right thing, and wherever that leads me, I will go,” he said. “What I will not listen to are those with agendas, or those who use this tragedy to promote agendas.”
Jackson, a Democrat who has been in office since 2006, said the day Rice was shot was the worst day of his mayoralty.
“We don’t believe there is a systemic failure; but we do have a problem. We will ferret out what that problem is, and then we will reach an agreement with the Justice Department on a consent decree.”
He said that negotiations were already underway, and added that if his office could reach an agreement with the DOJ, then they would be happy to have a monitor.
The mayor spoke of his admiration for the “sincerity” of those protesting the shooting of Rice, but also praised the city’s Public Safety Director, Michael McGrath, who has been facing calls to resign.
Jackson called him “the only person … who put himself in the line of fire.”
quote:Undercover police officer pulls gun on Oakland protesters after cover blown
Plainclothes California highway patrol officers have walked among demonstrators for weeks: report
An undercover California highway patrol officer who had infiltrated protests against police violence in Oakland pulled a gun on demonstrators after his and his partner’s cover was blown.
According to accounts in the San Francisco Chronicle and the Berkeley Daily Planet, a few dozen protesters remaining from larger demonstrations yelled that two men in plainclothes were police.
“Just as we turned up 27th Street, the crowd started yelling at these two guys, saying they were undercover cops,” the Chronicle’s freelance photographer Michael Short told the newspaper on Thursday.
The Berkeley Daily Planet reported that the two men tried to walk away, but the couple of dozen remaining protesters “persisted, screaming at the two undercover cops”. The Planet said that an officer “pushed a protester aside”. The demonstrator allegedly pushed back and was tackled and handcuffed.
“Somebody snatched a hat off the shorter guy’s head and he was fumbling around for it. A guy ran up behind him, knocked him down on the ground. That guy jumped backed up and chased after him and tackled him and the crowd began surging on them,” Short said.
He told the Chronicle that the officer pulled a small baton out, then a gun, after the crowd started “surging” them. The Planet reported that more officers quickly moved in to disperse demonstrators.
In a stunning admission, the patrol’s Golden Gate Division told the San Francisco Chronicle that officers had been dressing like and walking with protesters since the first demonstration on 24 November, attempting to gather intelligence to stop highway shutdowns.
Protesters have flooded the streets of the San Francisco Bay area for weeks, since grand juries in New York and Missouri refused to indict police officers for shooting unarmed black men. Many protests have shut down highways, and some in Berkeley have turned violent, resulting in fires and looting.
quote:Justice for All march against police killings begins in Washington – live coverage
Thousands expected to march in cities around US including New York
Protests concern deaths of Michael Brown, Eric Garner and others
Another march on Washington? After Ferguson, that’s not change
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quote:Manney is at least the third white police officer in the US this year to not be charged after a confrontation that led to a black man’s death.
Manney shot 31-year-old Hamilton on 30 April after responding to a call for a welfare check on a man sleeping in the park. Manney said Hamilton resisted when he tried to frisk him. The two exchanged punches before Hamilton got a hold of Manney’s baton and hit him on the neck with it, the former officer has said. Manney then opened fire, hitting Hamilton 14 times.
Hamilton’s family said he suffered fromschizophrenia and had recently stopped taking his medication.
Police chief Edward Flynn fired Manney in October, saying Manney instigated the fight with an inappropriate pat-down. The chief said Manney correctly identified Hamilton as mentally ill but ignored his training and department policy, and treated him as a criminal.
“You don’t go hands-on and start frisking somebody only because they appear to be mentally ill,” Flynn said when he announced Manney had been dismissed.
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quote:A crowd of about 100 people gathered at the Mobile gas station at the height of the protests, but the scene is now calmer, according to reports and video.
quote:Op woensdag 24 december 2014 13:40 schreef Morendo het volgende:
Vreemd, je zou juist denken dat na alle ophef zwarte jongeren zich minder aanstootgevend zouden gedragen.
quote:Earlier this month Staten Island's Eric Garner died while being arrested for allegedly selling untaxed cigarettes.
Police officers arrested a construction worker on a weapon charge because he had a painting knife, which was covered in paint, sticking out of his pocket. He now has a criminal record.
Police officers arrested a Chinese woman who has a license to sell flowers because she had two artificial flowers on her cart for decorative purposes.
A police officer arrested a young man for using his girlfriend’s MetroCard.
A police officer arrested a young man for having his backpack on the seat next to him.
A police officer arrested a 16-year-old Latino boy on two different occasions for trespass while the boy was standing in the hallway of the building he lives in.
Two police officers arrested a Latino veteran in the Times Square area on the charge of aggressive begging on eight separate occasions. In one instance, his lawyer has found an exculpatory video that shows him behaving politely and not pressuring walkers-by. The man refused to plead and is taking the case to trial.
Two police officers stopped and questioned a black fourteen-year-old girl while she was on her way to school—she was only one block away. When she protested, the officers arrested her and charged her with truancy. She understood, as many people in her community who are treated similarly do, that her real offense was “insisting on her rights.”
On a Saturday night in May, a Legal Aid lawyer in the Manhattan arraignment part represented four defendants in a row who had been arrested for having a foot up on a subway seat. One case stood out for the attorney: a twenty-two-year-old black male college student with a part-time job, an appropriate ID, and no criminal record, had to spend well over 24 hours in jail. A police officer arrested him when the train was only four stops away from his house.
A 50-year-old man was caught up in a “lucky bag” sting. He picked up a handbag left on a bench in Sara Roosevelt Park in Manhattan. The handbag contained a wallet with $3.00 and when the man brought it to an officer, the officer arrested him on the charge of possession of stolen property.
A police officer arrested and gave a DAT to a middle-aged Chinese woman for putting vegetables in her handbag as she was shopping in Whole Foods. She had only been living in the U.S. for four months, so she explained to the officer that she was following the custom in her home country. Obviously frail and disoriented in the courtroom, she reported having a kind of nervous breakdown after the incident, having spent two months in bed before appearing before the judge who then dismissed the case.
A twenty-seven year old man has worked as a pedicab driver for three years. He has never been arrested but has been ticketed for moving violations including, for example, driving in the bike lane. Once, when he was taking a break, he was ticketed for “smoking and drinking coffee” which was the actual language used as the charge on the summons. Once, when given a ticket, the officer reassured him that “it’ll get dismissed.”
An officer stopped a woman walking on her way to the subway in Brownsville, Brooklyn. She had gone through the well-lit side of a park because she thought it was safer. The officer charged her with being in the park after dusk. The woman pointed out that the park closes at 9 PM and that it was 8:49 PM at the time. The officer stalled her for 11 minutes before issuing her the summons. The officer also told the woman not to worry about the ticket because it would be dismissed.
A police officer arrested an undocumented Mexican immigrant on an open alcohol container charge. There was a warrant out on him for failure to appear for a summons, which was also for an open alcohol container. The young man was then deported.
A man and his nine-year-old daughter entered a Brooklyn subway station. He accidentally swiped her school-pass MetroCard and she swiped his. The police arrested the man, charging him with theft of services for using his child’s card.
A police officer arrested an African-American woman in her mid-60s for the first time in her life for smoking a joint on her stoop. When the case was brought to night court in Manhattan, an angry Legal Aid lawyer confronted the officer who explained that fifteen years ago his sergeant would’ve punched him out for making such an arrest, but now it’s expected of him.
http://gothamist.com/2014(...)_higher_under_de.php
Dat heb ik hier in China dus nog nooit gezien. Van open markt tot supermarkt stop je hier gewoon alles in een plastic zakje van de verkoper.quote:A police officer arrested and gave a DAT to a middle-aged Chinese woman for putting vegetables in her handbag as she was shopping in Whole Foods. She had only been living in the U.S. for four months, so she explained to the officer that she was following the custom in her home country. Obviously frail and disoriented in the courtroom, she reported having a kind of nervous breakdown after the incident, having spent two months in bed before appearing before the judge who then dismissed the case.
Zolang zij nog niet langs de kassa is.. Is het naar mijn mening geen diefstal.quote:Op zondag 28 december 2014 02:39 schreef SuperHarregarre het volgende:
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Dat heb ik hier in China dus nog nooit gezien. Van open markt tot supermarkt stop je hier gewoon alles in een plastic zakje van de verkoper.
Nu is het achterover drukken van een paar wortelen nu ook weer niet zo erg dat je gelijk naar de rechter moet maar het blijft stelen.
Technisch gezien niet nee maar als jij in Nederland spullen in je tas stopt dan krijg je ook problemen voordat je de winkel uit bent gelopen. Zeker als het gaat om spullen waarbij een alarmsysteem niet werkt. Daar moet je tegen optreden op 't moment dat je 't ziet.quote:Op zondag 28 december 2014 03:48 schreef WammesWaggel het volgende:
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Zolang zij nog niet langs de kassa is.. Is het naar mijn mening geen diefstal.
Ze zal dan waarschijnlijk ook niet gearresteerd zijn voor diefstal, maar voor poging tot diefstal.quote:Op zondag 28 december 2014 03:48 schreef WammesWaggel het volgende:
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Zolang zij nog niet langs de kassa is.. Is het naar mijn mening geen diefstal.
Nee, gebeurd tegenwoordig vrij veel dat mensen spullen in hun tas stoppen tijdens het doen van de boodschappen. Zeker met de zelfscansystemen die in veel supermarkten te vinden zijn.quote:Op zondag 28 december 2014 04:33 schreef SuperHarregarre het volgende:
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Technisch gezien niet nee maar als jij in Nederland spullen in je tas stopt dan krijg je ook problemen voordat je de winkel uit bent gelopen. Zeker als het gaat om spullen waarbij een alarmsysteem niet werkt. Daar moet je tegen optreden op 't moment dat je 't ziet.
Nog nooit gezien.quote:Op zondag 28 december 2014 09:53 schreef Happel het volgende:
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Nee, gebeurd tegenwoordig vrij veel dat mensen spullen in hun tas stoppen tijdens het doen van de boodschappen. Zeker met de zelfscansystemen die in veel supermarkten te vinden zijn.
Dat is een trucje dat wel meer ouderen gebruiken, ook in Nederland. Wat spullen in de tas doen en die 1 op de 10 keer dat ze dan betrapt worden: "ohhhh wat erg die ben ik helemaal vergeten, ik ben al wat ouder hé? hihi"quote:Op zondag 28 december 2014 02:39 schreef SuperHarregarre het volgende:
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Dat heb ik hier in China dus nog nooit gezien. Van open markt tot supermarkt stop je hier gewoon alles in een plastic zakje van de verkoper.
Nu is het achterover drukken van een paar wortelen nu ook weer niet zo erg dat je gelijk naar de rechter moet maar het blijft stelen.
Precies, daarom geef ik 't ook even aan. Nu wordt "cultuur" als excuus gebruikt maar ik woon hier nu al bijna vijf jaar en doe m'n eigen boodschappen en heb 't nog geen enkele keer gezien. Niet in de grote steden, noch in de kleinere. Sterker nog, je komt de supermarkt niet eens in met je tas vaak. Meeste supermarkten hebben gratis kluisjes bij de ingang/uitgang waar je je tas in moet stoppen. Bij de ingang van de supermarkt zelf staat dan een bewaker die je tegenhoudt als je toch met je tas naar binnen wil. Dus nee, spullen in je handtas stoppen en ze er bij de kassa weer uithalen is niet normaal in China.quote:Op zondag 28 december 2014 10:50 schreef Twiitch het volgende:
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Dat is een trucje dat wel meer ouderen gebruiken, ook in Nederland. Wat spullen in de tas doen en die 1 op de 10 keer dat ze dan betrapt worden: "ohhhh wat erg die ben ik helemaal vergeten, ik ben al wat ouder hé? hihi"
Toen ik nog in een supermarkt werkte waren de winkeldieven meestal al een jaartje ouder.
Dat is grofweg 0,01% van alle agenten. Bij die 115 zitten ook auto- en motorongelukken, hartaanvallen etc.quote:Op zondag 28 december 2014 12:38 schreef beantherio het volgende:
Een database van alle politie-agenten die in de VS omgekomen zijn: http://www.odmp.org/search/year
Voor dit jaar staat de teller al op 115. Ik vind dat best wel veel moet ik zeggen.
Aan de andere kant is nergens te vinden hoeveel dodelijke slachtoffers er vallen door politiegeweld.quote:Op zondag 28 december 2014 12:38 schreef beantherio het volgende:
Een database van alle politie-agenten die in de VS omgekomen zijn: http://www.odmp.org/search/year
Voor dit jaar staat de teller al op 115. Ik vind dat best wel veel moet ik zeggen.
Vergeet choking on a donut niet.quote:Op zondag 28 december 2014 12:55 schreef ..-._---_-.- het volgende:
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Dat is grofweg 0,01% van alle agenten. Bij die 115 zitten ook auto- en motorongelukken, hartaanvallen etc.
quote:Police are seeking a man in connection with an unprovoked attack on an interracial couple outside a Pasadena coffee shop, which authorities are investigating as a hate crime, officials said.
A 29-year-old black woman and a 36-year-old man of Armenian descent, both Glendale residents, were outside a Starbucks at Los Robles Avenue and Colorado Boulevard about 7 p.m. when the attacker confronted them, Pasadena police Lt. John Luna said.
“Without provocation, he made reference to the race of both victims,” Luna said. “The suspect spat on the female victim and punched the male victim.”
The male victim sought his own medical treatment for a cut to his lower lip, the lieutenant said. The woman wasn’t hurt. The couple did not report the crime to police until several hours later.
Luna said the suspect apparently objected to the fact the man and woman were of different races.
“Based on the fact that race was the provocation, we’re investigating it as a hate crime,” he said.
Police described the suspect as a black man in his 20s, about 6 feet 2 inches tall and 190 pounds, with his hair in dreadlocks. He wore a red jacket and blue jeans.
Hij wil even duidelijk maken dat negers de echte racisten zijn.quote:Op zondag 28 december 2014 16:39 schreef OMG het volgende:
En die dader was een agent? Buurtwacht? Wat is het punt van je gequote artikel precies?
quote:Op zondag 28 december 2014 16:19 schreef SuperHarregarre het volgende:
http://www.insidesocal.co(...)asadena-coffee-shop/
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Hatecrime in de V.S. ..je zult er maar wonen.quote:Police described the suspect as a black man in his 20s, about 6 feet 2 inches tall and 190 pounds, with his hair in dreadlocks. He wore a red jacket and blue jeans.
quote:Arrests plummet 66% with NYPD in virtual work stoppage
It’s not a slowdown — it’s a virtual work stoppage.
NYPD traffic tickets and summonses for minor offenses have dropped off by a staggering 94 percent following the execution of two cops — as officers feel betrayed by the mayor and fear for their safety, The Post has learned.
The dramatic drop comes as Police Commissioner Bill Bratton and Mayor Bill de Blasio plan to hold an emergency summit on Tuesday with the heads of the five police unions to try to close the widening rift between cops and the administration.
The unprecedented meeting is being held at the new Police Academy in Queens at 2 p.m., sources said.
Angry union leaders have ordered drastic measures for their members since the Dec. 20 assassination of two NYPD cops in a patrol car, including that two units respond to every call.
It has helped contribute to a nose dive in low-level policing, with overall arrests down 66 percent for the week starting Dec. 22 compared with the same period in 2013, stats show.
Citations for traffic violations fell by 94 percent, from 10,069 to 587, during that time frame.
Summonses for low-level offenses like public drinking and urination also plunged 94 percent — from 4,831 to 300.
Even parking violations are way down, dropping by 92 percent, from 14,699 to 1,241.
Drug arrests by cops assigned to the NYPD’s Organized Crime Control Bureau — which are part of the overall number — dropped by 84 percent, from 382 to 63.
The Post obtained the numbers hours after revealing that cops were turning a blind eye to some minor crimes and making arrests only “when they have to” since the execution-style shootings of Officers Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu.
Police sources said Monday that safety concerns were the main reason for the dropoff in police activity, but added that some cops were mounting an undeclared slowdown in protest of de Blasio’s response to the non-indictment in the police chokehold death of Eric Garner.
“The call last week from the PBA is what started it, but this has been simmering for a long time,” one source said.
“This is not a slowdown for slowdown’s sake. Cops are concerned, after the reaction from City Hall on the Garner case, about de Blasio not backing them.”
The Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association has warned its members to put their safety first and not make arrests “unless absolutely necessary.”
Sergeants Benevolent Association President Ed Mullins told The Post he’s glad de Blasio is meeting with the unions, but worries that it’s just a publicity stunt.
“I’m disappointed in the issuance of a press release announcing the meeting, which now raises concerns of sincerity,” he said.
“Is this about politics or is it about working through problems?”
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Het artikel gaat verder.quote:A grand juror is suing St. Louis County Prosecutor Bob McCulloch in an effort to speak out on what happened in the Darren Wilson case. Under typical circumstances, grand jurors are prohibited by law from discussing cases they were involved in.
The grand juror, referred to only as "Grand Juror Doe" in the lawsuit, takes issue with how McCulloch characterized the case. McCulloch released evidence presented to the grand jury and publicly discussed the case after the grand jury decided not to indict Wilson, then a Ferguson police officer, in the shooting death of Michael Brown, an 18-year-old African American.
“In [the grand juror]’s view, the current information available about the grand jurors’ views is not entirely accurate — especially the implication that all grand jurors believed that there was no support for any charges,” the lawsuit says. “Moreover, the public characterization of the grand jurors’ view of witnesses and evidence does not accord with [Doe]’s own.”
“From [the grand juror]’s perspective, the investigation of Wilson had a stronger focus on the victim than in other cases presented to the grand jury,” the lawsuit states. Doe also believes the legal standards were conveyed in a “muddled” and “untimely” manner to the grand jury.
In the lawsuit filed Monday in federal court, the American Civil Liberties Union of Missouri argues that this case is unique and that the usual reasons for requiring the jurors to maintain secrecy should not apply.
In this specific case, “any interests furthered by maintaining grand jury secrecy are outweighed by the interests secured by the First Amendment,” the lawsuit says, adding that allowing the juror to speak would contribute to a discussion on race in America.
As the grand juror points out in the lawsuit, the Wilson case was handled in a very different manner than other grand juries. Instead of recommending a charge, McCulloch's office presented thousands of pages worth of evidence and testimony before the grand jury. At one point, McCulloch's spokesman characterized the grand jury as co-investigators.
“From [Doe]’s perspective, although the release of a large number of records provides an appearance of transparency, with heavy redactions and the absence of context, those records do not fully portray the proceedings before the grand jury,” the lawsuit says.
McCulloch has done several interviews since the grand jury decision was announced on Nov. 24, but the grand jurors have been prohibited from speaking about the case. The county prosecutor admits that some of the witnesses were lying, but said the grand jurors were aware.
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quote:After leading a controversial campaign against Mayor Bill de Blasio, the head of New York City’s largest police union, Patrick Lynch, is facing an internal challenge of his own. Lynch, who accused de Blasio of having "blood on his hands" for a gunman’s murder of two officers and later spearheaded the two-week arrest and summons slowdown by New York City Police Department officers, will be challenged by dissident cops in the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association’s next election in June. Democracy Now! co-host and New York Daily News columnist Juan González discusses the revolt, which he attributes in part to a changing NYPD demographic that in recent years has seen officers of color become the majority on the force.
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quote:Op de schietbaan van een politiebureau in Miami werd geoefend door te schieten op afbeeldingen van gezichten van Afro-Amerikanen. De omroep NBC kwam eind deze week in Miami met het verhaal op de proppen, nadat een vrouwelijk lid van de Nationale Garde er was gaan oefenen en alleen maar hoofden van zwarte Amerikanen als doelwit zag. Een van de hoofden was dat van haar broer, die vijftien jaar geleden in Miami werd gearresteerd.
quote:'Politie Ferguson vooringenomen tegen zwarte bevolking'
Het politiekorps van Ferguson in de Amerikaanse staat Missouri heeft stelselmatig de grondwettelijke rechten van de zwarte inwoners geschonden. Politieagenten hebben jarenlang buitensporig geweld tegen zwarten gebruikt.
Dat blijkt uit een onderzoek van het ministerie van Justitie, aldus The New York Times dinsdag.
Uit het onderzoek blijkt onder meer dat zwarten in het verkeer worden aangehouden zonder dat daar een reden voor is. Ook zijn bij het onderzoek e-mails met racistische grappen van agenten over zwarten opgedoken.
Justitie onderzocht het korps in Ferguson, nadat een politieagent afgelopen zomer in de stad een ongewapende zwarte tiener had doodgeschoten. Volgens Amerikaanse media is het ministerie van Justitie het onderzoek naar de schietpartij aan het afronden en zal het geen aanklacht tegen de man adviseren.
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quote:The full extent of the racial persecution of black residents in Ferguson, Missouri, by the city’s overwhelmingly white law enforcement authorities was disclosed on Wednesday in a damning report by the US Department of Justice.
Veelal volkomen terecht.quote:Op donderdag 15 januari 2015 21:53 schreef Samuray13 het volgende:
Liegende aanklager.
Die hebben zo tig zwarten de dood ingejaagd (doodstraf)
En hoeveel mensen jagen de zwarten zelf eigenlijk de dood in ?? Slechts 12.6% van de bevolking is zwart toch is deze bevolkingsgroep verantwoordelijk voor 52,2% van de moorden in Amerika. Met de andere misdaadcijfers is het niet anders. (verklaar dat maar eens)quote:Op donderdag 15 januari 2015 21:53 schreef Samuray13 het volgende:
Liegende aanklager.
Die hebben zo tig zwarten de dood ingejaagd (doodstraf)
Je citeert een van de media en toch vraag je waar ze zijn?quote:Op zaterdag 14 maart 2015 21:30 schreef Religieisfacisme het volgende:
Ook vandaag weer toen een blanke man zijn keel werd doorgesneden in New York enkel en alleen omdat hij blank was.
http://www.nydailynews.co(...)ns-article-1.2148582
Waar is de media nu ???
Dan stel ik een experiment voor; heel Religieisfascisme's familie gaan we eerst een paar eeuwen als slaven houden. Vervolgens schaffen we dat af, maar houden we racisme en discriminatie in stand door die groep als minder dan een mens te zien en te behandelen. Daarna staan we het wel toe dat Religieisfascisme's groep wel overal in de bus mag zitten bijvoorbeeld. Maar we houden lekker alle stereotypen in ons geheugen, zodat we iemand van die groep bij bijvoorbeeld een sollicitatie al beoordelen op het feit dat de persoon een lid is van Religieisfascisme's groep, en daarmee herinneren we het stereotype dat 't een stel domme boeren zijn die te dom zijn om te poepen, want dat gelooft iedereen. Vervolgens behandelen we die groep gewoon lekker als stront, en is het vooral hun mentaliteit die hen dwars zit. Niet het feit dat tot de dag van vandaag die groep op alle mogelijke manieren is onderdrukt en geïnstitutionaliseerd racisme in stand is gehouden door een andere groep.quote:Op zaterdag 14 maart 2015 21:30 schreef Religieisfacisme het volgende:
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En ja dan kom je als bevolkingsgroep vaker in aanraking met politie en justitie en ook met eventueel geweld of veroordelingen die daarmee gepaard gaan. De zwarte gemeenschap heeft een enorm mentaliteitsprobleem waardoor ze soms inderdaad anders worden behandeld of benaderd. Maar wiens schuld is dat nou echt ?? Dit kan je niet meer stompzinnig afwimpelen als zijnde racisme.
Een krantenberichtje meer is het niet. Het haalt de TV niet eens. Als hij zwart was geweest dan was het wekenlang groot nieuws geweestquote:Op zaterdag 14 maart 2015 21:33 schreef TitusPullo het volgende:
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Je citeert een van de media en toch vraag je waar ze zijn?
Wat een rotsmoesje. Crimineel en onaangepast gedrag proberen goed te praten met iets wat eeuwen geleden gebeurt is. Onze voorouders zijn de slaven geweest van de Romeinen, Spanjaarden, Vikingen enz. We zijn talloze malen bezet en leeggeroofd. We hebben oorlogen, vervolgingen en onderdrukking doorstaan.quote:Op zaterdag 14 maart 2015 21:57 schreef OMG het volgende:
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Dan stel ik een experiment voor; heel Religieisfascisme's familie gaan we eerst een paar eeuwen als slaven houden. .
Je doet zelf wat je de ander verwijt.quote:Op zaterdag 14 maart 2015 21:30 schreef Religieisfacisme het volgende:
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En hoeveel mensen jagen de zwarten zelf eigenlijk de dood in ?? Slechts 12.6% van de bevolking is zwart toch is deze bevolkingsgroep verantwoordelijk voor 52,2% van de moorden in Amerika. Met de andere misdaadcijfers is het niet anders. (verklaar dat maar eens)
http://en.wikipedia.org/w(...)ited_States#Homicide
En ja dan kom je als bevolkingsgroep vaker in aanraking met politie en justitie en ook met eventueel geweld of veroordelingen die daarmee gepaard gaan. De zwarte gemeenschap heeft een enorm mentaliteitsprobleem waardoor ze soms inderdaad anders worden behandeld of benaderd. Maar wiens schuld is dat nou echt ?? Dit kan je niet meer stompzinnig afwimpelen als zijnde racisme.
Datzelfde zie je ook bv in NL met de Marokkaanse jongeren die vaak een agressieve en schreeuwerige machomentaliteit hebben. Daar ga je gewoon anders mee om dan met mensen met een beheerste en redelijke mentaliteit.
En dan die theatrale toestanden als het weer eens een zwarte treft die, al dan niet, het slachtoffer van racisme is geworden. Waarom gebeurt dit andersom niet ?? Er worden wekelijks racistische aanvallen op blanke mensen uitgevoerd in de VS.
Ook vandaag weer toen een blanke man zijn keel werd doorgesneden in New York enkel en alleen omdat hij blank was.
http://www.nydailynews.co(...)ns-article-1.2148582
Waar is de media nu ??? Waarom nu geen verontwaardigde politici ? En zie je ook hier weer het verschil in mentaliteit ? Bij de blanke bevolking geen dreigende meute op straat die meteen in de slachtofferrol kruipt. Geen demonstraties tegen racistische Latino's of zwartenen geen rellen en geweld.
Even wat geschiedenis, want als je denkt dat dit over "eeuwen geleden" gaat gaat er iets niet helemaal goed.quote:Op zaterdag 14 maart 2015 22:08 schreef Religieisfacisme het volgende:
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Een krantenberichtje meer is het niet. Het haalt de TV niet eens.
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Wat een rotsmoesje. Crimineel en onaangepast gedrag proberen goed te praten met iets wat eeuwen geleden gebeurt is.
En niet alleen Amerikanen blijkt wel weer.quote:Op zaterdag 14 maart 2015 22:23 schreef ..-._---_-.- het volgende:
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Even wat geschiedenis, want als je denkt dat dit over "eeuwen geleden" gaat gaat er iets niet helemaal goed.
De slavernij in de VS is in 1863 afgeschaft. Maar niet lang daarna werden in plaats daarvan in de zuidelijke staten wetten geintroduceerd die rassenscheiding regelden. Die wetten werden pas in 1964 officieel afgeschaft, en in 1965 kregen zwarten pas stemrecht. Officieel zijn zwarten dus nog maar sinds kort bij wet gelijkwaardig aan blanken. Maar officieus zit het beeld van zwarten als tweederangs burgers nog steeds tussen de oren van veel blanke Amerikanen.
Daar hebben ze vast goede redenen voor.quote:Op zaterdag 14 maart 2015 22:23 schreef ..-._---_-.- het volgende:
Maar officieus zit het beeld van zwarten als tweederangs burgers nog steeds tussen de oren van veel blanke Amerikanen.
Klopt. Bij de opvoeding van een deel van de blanke bevolking wordt dat er al ingegoten.quote:Op zondag 15 maart 2015 02:08 schreef superniger het volgende:
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Daar hebben ze vast goede redenen voor.
http://www.reuters.com/ar(...)dUSKBN0M80CJ20150314quote:Quick answers to double shooting elude police in Ferguson, Missouri
- Nearly 48 hours after two officers were shot in Ferguson, Missouri, investigators had dozens of leads but no arrests to report on Friday in the hunt for a gunman who turned a late-night protest against police into bedlam.
St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar said authorities had "a pretty good idea" where the gunshots that wounded the officers had originated, without providing specifics, but added that an arrest was not imminent.
The kind of gun used, the shooter's motivation and any connection to the protesters remained a mystery, prolonging uncertainty for a town that has come to symbolize America's struggle with race and policing.
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Het artikel gaat verder.quote:The Wikipedia articles for the deaths of three individuals involved with the NYPD, including the highly controversial death of Eric Garner, have been edited on computers that can be traced back to the NYPD’s headquarters.
Articles ‘on alleged instances of police brutality and articles critical of the force’s conduct’ were edited, while attempts were even made to try and delete the pages.
In the Garner case, “Garner raised both his arms in the air” was changed to “Garner flailed his arms about as he spoke,” and, “Use of the chokehold has been prohibited” was changed to “Use of the chokehold is legal, but has been prohibited.”
In 2006, someone from within the NYPD deleted 1,502 characters from the “scandals and corruption” section of Wikipedia’s “New York City Police Department” entry.
NYPD spokeswoman Det. Cheryl Crispin said, “The matter is under internal review.”
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quote:De nieuwe campagne van koffieketen Starbucks om de rassentegenstellingen in de VS bij een kopje koffie te bespreken, is slecht gevallen bij veel klanten. Vicepresident Corey duBrowa zag zich gedwongen zijn Twitter-account tijdelijk af te sluiten na een stroom negatieve reacties en persoonlijke aanvallen. Starbucks maakt vandaag meer bekend over de nu al omstreden campagne.
quote:Starbucks besloot van start te gaan met de campagne na een serie gesprekken met werknemers in de steden die nu meedoen. In paginagrote advertenties in onder andere The New York Times werd de campagne aangekondigd. 'We hebben problemen in dit land als het gaat om ras en raciale ongelijkheid', aldus topman Schultz. 'En wij geloven dat wij en dit land beter kunnen.'
quote:Chicago police commander resigns in wake of Homan Square revelations
Resignation of Nicholas Roti, a veteran police officer who operated over the controversial police warehouse, comes as attorneys announce civil rights lawsuit
Het artikel gaat verder.quote:A senior Chicago police commander in charge of a major unit operating out of the controversial Homan Square police warehouse has resigned, the Guardian has confirmed.
The news came as attorneys for three Homan Square victims announced that they would file the first civil rights lawsuit over the facility with the aim of shutting down the complex likened by attorneys and activists to the domestic law enforcement equivalent of a CIA “black site.”
Nicholas Roti, the chief of the bureau of organized crime, resigned from the Chicago police department last week, Chicago police public affairs officer Mike Sullivan told the Guardian.
In an emailed reply to the Guardian on Thursday night, Martin Maloney of the Chicago police said:
". Chief Roti left CPD to become the chief of staff for the Illinois state police [ISP], where he will work for another recently departed senior CPD official who was appointed to be the director of ISP. It’s been in the works for some time."
The organized crime unit, according to its website, is tasked with confronting illegal narcotics, gang activity and vice in Chicago, operations that numerous people formerly held at Homan Square believe led to their incommunicado detentions there.
Roti took charge of the organized crime division in 2010, the Chicago Sun-Times reported; and led the bureau through a command reorganization in 2011. Published reports indicate Roti is a 27-year veteran police officer.
The Guardian exposed a series of incommunicado detention and abuse at the Chicago police facility, including people being held for extensive periods of time without public notifications to their families or access to attorneys.
Sullivan said that Roti himself did not operate out of Homan Square, but out of police headquarters.
Yet the organized crime bureau was cited by the Chicago police “fact sheet” released on 1 March, attempting to refute the Guardian’s reporting about a complex where 11 people thus far have told the Guardian they were effectively disappeared.
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quote:Michael Brown in Ferguson. Eric Garner in New York. Walter Scott in South Carolina. En nu Freddie Gray in Baltimore. Opnieuw leidt de dood van een zwarte arrestant door blank politiegeweld tot demonstraties en rellen in de Verenigde Staten. Wat is er nu aan de hand? Vier vragen en antwoorden.
quote:Sandra Bland was arrested after officer became annoyed that she was smoking | US news | The Guardian
African American woman, 28, died in custody after Texas traffic stop escalated, with supporters saying dashcam images show trooper becoming agitated
Sandra Bland was ordered out of her car after a police officer became annoyed that she was smoking, according to a spokesman for her family.
The 28-year-old’s death in a Texas county jail has sparked national outrage and protests after her family questioned the official account that she hanged herself with a trash bag in her cell. She was found dead three days after her arrest for allegedly assaulting a public servant after a routine traffic stop escalated into a physical encounter.
Bland was stopped, supposedly for a minor traffic violation, on 10 July in Waller County, a rural area near Houston. Footage filmed by a bystander shows her being pinned to the ground by officers. She was found dead on the morning of 13 July.
At a news conference outside the county jail on Monday, Jamal Bryant, a pastor from Baltimore who was flanked by other activists and protesters, said that dashcam images from a state trooper’s car show the officer becoming agitated as Bland smokes in her car and starts to film the encounter.
“He became outraged and unnerved because he’s handling a black woman who is not ignorant, who knows her rights,” he said. Bryant claimed that her death was not suicide but “murder, a homicide”. He linked her death with other fatal encounters between African Americans and police across the country, which have prompted widespread demonstrations and energized the Black Lives Matter movement.
Waller County has a history of racism, while the sheriff, Glenn Smith, was fired from his previous job after allegations of racist behaviour, which he has denied.
The Texas department of public safety, which is leading the investigation, said in a statement on Friday that the officer who stopped Bland, identified as Brian Encinia, has been assigned to desk duties for “violations of the department’s procedures regarding traffic stops and the department’s courtesy policy”.
The agency had previously said that Bland “became argumentative and uncooperative” after being stopped for failing to signal a lane change. It has asked the FBI to analyse videos related to the incident and has pledged to release footage to the public.
The Bland family’s Chicago-based lawyer, Cannon Lambert, told NBC News that she asked the officer, “Why do I have to put out a cigarette when I’m in my own car? And that seemed to irritate him to the point where he said, ‘get out of the car’.” Lambert said that the trooper “looked to force her to get out of the car by way of opening the door and started demanding that she do”.
Waller County’s district attorney, Elton Mathis, told reporters last week that the investigation would be thorough and transparent and findings of potential wrongdoing would be presented to a grand jury.
After Bland’s death the Texas Commission on Jail Standards said that it had found the Waller County jail to be in non-compliance with minimum standards for failing to check on inmates in person at least once an hour and for inadequate staff training on how to handle potentially suicidal inmates. The sheriff’s office said in a statement that it would be “working on improvements”.
Family members have travelled to Texas and are awaiting the results of an independent autopsy performed at their request, which should be released within the next two days. Activists on Monday called for an investigation by the US Department of Justice.
An FBI spokeswoman, Shauna Dunlap, said: “We are monitoring the ongoing local investigation. Once the local process takes its course, the FBI will review all of the evidence to determine if any federal criminal laws may have been violated.”
Bland, a racial justice activist, had newly arrived in Texas from Chicago for a job interview at Prairie View A&M University, her alma mater, where a vigil was held in her memory on Sunday.
She got the job. Family and friends have said she had no reason to end her life, though she talked about feeling depressed in a Facebook post several months earlier. Bryant said she “turned the corner … just got a job opportunity and was excited about life”.
Bron: www.theguardian.com
Eigen schuld, ze heeft er zelf om gevraagd te worden gewurgd in een politiecel door niet netjes haar sigaret te doven toen de agent dat vroeg. Als ze geluisterd had, had ze nog geleefd.quote:
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The Department of Homeland Security has been monitoring the Black Lives Matter movement since anti-police protests erupted in Ferguson, Missouri last summer, according to hundreds of documents obtained by The Intercept through a Freedom of Information Act request.
The documents, released by the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Operations Coordination, indicate that the department frequently collects information, including location data, on Black Lives Matter activities from public social media accounts, including on Facebook, Twitter, and Vine, even for events expected to be peaceful. The reports confirm social media surveillance of the protest movement and ostensibly related events in the cities of Ferguson, Baltimore, Washington, DC, and New York.
They also show the department watching over gatherings that seem benign and even mundane. For example, DHS circulated information on a nationwide series of silent vigils and a DHS-funded agency planned to monitor a funk music parade and a walk to end breast cancer in the nation’s capital.
The tracking of domestic protest groups and peaceful gatherings raises questions over whether DHS is chilling the exercise of First Amendment rights, and over whether the department, created in large part to combat terrorism, has allowed its mission to creep beyond the bounds of useful security activities as its annual budget has grown beyond $60 billion.
The surveillance cataloged in the DHS documents goes back to August of last year, when protests and riots broke out in Ferguson the day after the shooting of unarmed black teenager Michael Brown. According to two August 11th, 2014 reports, a DHS FEMA “WatchOps officer” used information from Twitter and Vine to monitor the riots and reproduced a map, originally created by a Reddit user, of conflict zones.
Het artikel gaat verder.quote:Mitchell, the Blackbird activist, says that this continuing surveillance serves not only to keep tabs on black activists, but also to deter them from pushing forward. "Surveillance is a tool of fear. When the police are videotaping you at a protest or pulling you over because you're a well known activist -- all of these techniques are designed to create a chilling effect on people's organizing. This is no different. The level of surveillance, however, isn't going to stop us. After all, we organize because our lives depend on it."
Bron: firstlook.org
http://www.vox.com/2015/7(...)e-video-body-camerasquote:The Samuel DuBose shooting video proved the police incident report was totally bogus
The body camera footage of the police shooting of Samuel DuBose shows not just how far video can go in getting an indictment and criminal charges against cops, but how it can dispel misleading claims from officers in the aftermath of a shooting.
The incident report filed by University of Cincinnati police, for instance, made two false claims about the traffic stop and fatal shooting of DuBose: that UC police officer Ray Tensing was dragged by the car, and that he was almost run over by the vehicle.
"Officer Tensing stated that he was attempting a traffic stop (No front license plate) when, at some point, he began to be dragged by a male black driver who was operating a 1998 Green Honda Accord (OH.GLN6917)," the report stated. "Officer Tensing stated that he almost was run over by the driver of the Honda Accord and was forced to shoot the driver with his duty weapon."
But based on the video, these claims seem to get the timeline of events wrong. The car started moving very slowly — to the point that it's hard to make out whether it was moving at all. Within seconds, Tensing reached into the vehicle and shot DuBose in the head. He then fell over, stumbling a good distance away from the car.
Tensing never appears to be dragged by or attached to the vehicle, and he's never close to being run over. When he falls over after firing the shot, he's so far away from the car that he has to run after it as it accelerates. (DuBose's body appears to have fallen against the pedal after he was shot dead, causing the vehicle to accelerate, according to Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters.)
Without the video, it's much less likely a grand jury would have agreed to an indictment for murder and voluntary manslaughter, and the Republican prosecutor on the case— who called the killing "asinine," "senseless," and "unwarranted" at a press conference — may not have been so confident that a murder charge was called for. If there's no camera footage, these cases tend to turn into he-says-she-says situations between civilians and police officers, and grand juries and prosecutors tend to see the police as more credible.
"There is a tendency to believe an officer over a civilian, in terms of credibility," David Rudovsky, a civil rights lawyer who co-wrote Prosecuting Misconduct: Law and Litigation, told Vox's Amanda Taub in November. "And when an officer is on trial, reasonable doubt has a lot of bite. A prosecutor needs a very strong case before a jury will say that somebody who we generally trust to protect us has so seriously crossed the line as to be subject to a conviction."
So, without the video, the scenario Rudovsky described would have likely played out. Multiple police officers would have pointed to the incident report, saying Tensing was dragged by the car and nearly run over. Grand juries and prosecutors, having either no other evidence or only the word of civilian witnesses to go on, would have likely sided with the police. And they would have been wrong.
Je moet het artikel nog eens lezen.quote:Op donderdag 30 juli 2015 07:38 schreef SuperHarregarre het volgende:
en zelfs proberen weg te rijden.
Waarom het artikel lezen als je de video gewoon kunt kijken? Je gaat toch ook gewoon een film kijken en niet een transcript van de film lezen en dan denken dat je precies weet hoe het allemaal ging? In het filmpje zie je dat de agent vraagt aan hem om z'n gordel af te doen en uit te stappen. Hier verzet hij zich tegen en begint hij te rijden. Kijk gewoon het filmpje. Ik zeg niet dat ze die agent niet moeten vervolgen voor op z'n minst onzorgvuldig omgaan met z'n dienstwapen maar men doet nu net alsof hij rustig naast die auto staat, zijn wapen trekt terwijl de passagier meewerkt en hem dan gewoon door z'n hoofd schiet. En da's ook gewoon onzin natuurlijk.quote:Op donderdag 30 juli 2015 07:39 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
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Je moet het artikel nog eens lezen.
Kan toch niet waar zijn hè.... de tering.quote:Op donderdag 30 juli 2015 02:17 schreef crystal_meth het volgende:
WCPO edited this video to blur the moment Sam DuBose is shot in the head.
UC police officer Ray Tensing's body camera video clearly shows that he committed "murder" when he shot and killed an unarmed black motorist at a traffic stop, prosecutor Joe Deters said Wednesday.
The shocking video shows Tensing grab the outside door latch on 43-year-old Sam DuBose's car after DuBose couldn't produce a driver's license.
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http://www.vox.com/2015/7(...)e-video-body-cameras
Snugger is het niet, maar ze hadden hem gewoon kunnen achtervolgen met de politie-auto en dan kunnen arresteren natuurlijk. Het is allemaal niet zo erg dat dit executie rechtvaardigt. De man kwam niet agressief over, eerder sukkelig en had voor zover de agent kon weten geen wapens bij zich. Hij probeerde alleen onder een boete uit te komen... dom, maar ja, mensen kunnen dom zijn.quote:Op donderdag 30 juli 2015 07:38 schreef SuperHarregarre het volgende:
Je rijdt dus zonder kentekenplaat, zodat je sowieso zal worden aangehouden. Je hebt dan ook nog eens niet je rijbewijs bij je. En dan ga je bij het staande gehouden worden moeilijk doen en zelfs proberen weg te rijden. Wat was zijn verwachting precies? Dat de politie zou zeggen: nja, laat maar zitten dan, doei. En je woont in een land waar dienders snel een wapen trekken. Dat neem je niet mee in je overweging om capriolen uit te halen? Het is een beetje als iemand die in China op het Tiananmen Plein een Tibetaanse vlag ontvouwt en dan verbouwereerd is als 'ie de gevangenis invliegt. Ja, een vlag is geen moordwapen maar je weet waar je bent en wat voor risico's je neemt.
Een kenteken vooraan is niet in alle staten verplicht, en het wordt zelden beboet.quote:Op donderdag 30 juli 2015 07:38 schreef SuperHarregarre het volgende:
Je rijdt dus zonder kentekenplaat, zodat je sowieso zal worden aangehouden.
quote:Depends on where you live. In areas with lots of (street) parking enforcement especially San Francisco, parking officers will often give no front plate / fix it tickets because it's easy. Otherwise you can go 3-4+ years at a time without trouble - from people in SoCal with no front plate or Euro-style plates, parked off the street.
quote:I lost mine in a minor fender-bender and put off getting it replaced for six years (2004-2010). During that time driving around the San Francisco peninsula, I never got a ticket. I had a friend who got one, but I think my experience speaks to the general laxness around front license plates.
Eigenlijk wel bizar dat dat blijkbaar niet verplicht is overal. In China zie je wel vaak auto's zonder kentekenplaten rondrijden, die rijden dan ook als gekken omdat geflitst worden ze niets uitmaakt. En aangezien er hier enorm veel nieuwe auto's rondrijden is het een makkelijk excuus "net gekocht, platen nog niet binnen".quote:Op donderdag 30 juli 2015 14:10 schreef crystal_meth het volgende:
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quote:Backlash Against Police Use of Force Is Making Its Way into US Courtrooms
Increased scrutiny over police use of force stemming from the past year's high profile police-involved shootings has led to a shift in the way wrongful death lawsuits are being handled, according to attorneys and outside observers.
Though still rare, wrongful death suits are now more likely to be weighed by juries on evidence, particularly video evidence, of police wrongdoing, whereas in the past they relied heavily on the credibility of law enforcement and the narrative officers presented during a trial, experts told VICE News.
Don Hummer, a criminal justice expert at Penn State University, has studied wrongful death suits against police in the US in the past and said there has been a marked change in the way the lawsuits are now seen in courts and by the public. One major reason for the change is the prevalence of video, taken on cell phones and dash cams and body cameras, that shows a full range of events.
"The ones you're seeing now that get a lot of media attention I think represent a shift in cultural perceptions of whether or not police misuse force," Hummer told VICE News. "With the video evidence now it's not one person's word against another, where police have the upper hand and control the perception — it's more of a level playing field, and I think that's going to change the outcomes."
Related: Activists Demand DoJ Investigation into Sandra Bland's Death
William T. Gaut, a retired police detective who now works as a criminal justice consultant on wrongful death lawsuits, said that the historical trend of the high credibility automatically afforded to police officers with juries may be beginning to erode.
"You've always got jury nullification in favor of police officers. Everybody wants to find for law enforcement. But now there's a lot of media attention to wrongdoing by police officers, especially with video and cell phones, dash cams, body cams, so now, I don't know if they've got quite the jury nullification that they had years ago. Citizen juries now are beginning to get a firsthand look at things. So it's now becoming more evidentiary-based than witness-based," Gaut said.
Last week, attorney Keith Greer filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the FBI for the wrongful death of James DiMaggio, an alleged kidnapper and murderer who was shot and killed by and FBI hostage rescue team in the summer of 2013. DiMaggio's sister Lora DiMaggio Robinson, represented by Greer, is claiming $20 million from the the bureau, claiming that agents were too quick to shoot and kill her brother.
The case is an unusual addition to the string of high-profile wrongful death lawsuits brought against law enforcement over the past year, including those brought against police in Ferguson, Missouri, after the death of Michael Brown, in Staten Island, New York, after the death of Eric Garner, and in Cleveland, Ohio, after the death of Tamir Rice.
The DiMaggio case acknowledges that the deceased was accused of serious crimes, but argues that law enforcement still should not have shot and killed him.
An inquiry by the US attorney into the case in 2014 found the shooting was justified. But Greer said there were still valid questions about whether FBI agents acted as "judge, jury, and executioner" when deciding to shoot and kill DiMaggio, questions that he said resonated with a public that has grown wary over police force.
"The conversation around the country in the week since [the news of the lawsuit] has been out there seems to reflect that people are not focusing on the acts he allegedly did but the process and the system, that perhaps police went beyond their boundaries," he told VICE News.
Greer said that despite a potential backlash for claiming the unlawful death of a man accused of such violent crime, he and Robinson felt that it was important, amid a growing concern about police use of force in the country.
"I have a lot of respect for these guys [the hostage rescue team], and I was hesitant to bring the case. They put themselves in harm's way all the time. But with that great responsibility they have, they can't let passion take over," Greer said. "By usurping the system and taking justice into their own hands they've taken the life of somebody who didn't have to have life taken."
Related: New Video Gives Fresh Insight Into What Happened During Freddie Gray's Arrest
Authorities said that DiMaggio kidnapped 16-year-old Hannah Anderson after murdering her mother and brother, then took her to a campsite in the woods in Idaho.
According to the claim, US Marshals spotted the campsite in their search for Anderson and sent an FBI Hostage Rescue Team in to rescue her. Anderson said after the ordeal that DiMaggio had been building a fire to send a signal for help when she suggested he fire his gun into the air three times to call for help instead. Upon his first shot, agents poised nearby opened fire at him, shooting him six times, according to the claim.
Greer said in the claim that given DiMaggio's history of having a familiar relationship with Anderson, the number of officers who could have restrained DiMaggio instead of shooting him, and the fact that DiMaggio was not threatening harm toward Anderson, the FBI's use of force was unduly excessive, prejudicial, and unjustified. He hopes to call Anderson as a witness in the case.
"Our position is that this is a very well respected hostage rescue team, so we're presuming they had eyes and ears on the ground, and surveillance equipment so they could hear and see what was being done, so if that's the case and they did hear that, the question is why did they wait until he got to the gun? There was plenty of time and to stop him and warn him before he touched the weapon," Greer told VICE News.
"Our concern is they sat and waited until there was an opportunity to take a shot, rather than do their duty in the circumstances to apprehend an alleged criminal," he said.
Hummer said that the public's perceptions of police would affect the way juries weighted police and witness testimony in wrongful death cases.
"Now, most people up to age 60 or so have had bad experiences with police. The last three sitting presidents have had bad experiences with police, whether from marijuana use or alcohol use or the color of their skin, and so a lot of people are thinking that maybe police aren't what they built themselves up to be," he said. "There's a suspicion of power generally in the US and now it's permeating police, so that coupled with the technology that now everybody has, there may now be a shift."
The FBI did not immediately return requests for comment.
Follow Colleen Curry on Twitter: @currycolleen
Bron: news.vice.com
Ja in dat filmpje zijn ze op de politie aan het schieten.quote:Op maandag 10 augustus 2015 13:41 schreef OMG het volgende:
Waar zijn ze precies aan het rellen in dag filmpje? Ook het plunderen heb ik gemist.
Waar haal je dat plunderen en de rellen vandaan?quote:Op maandag 10 augustus 2015 12:25 schreef Mani89 het volgende:
Ze zijn inmiddels weer aan het plunderen en rellen geslagen ter gelegenheid van het 1-jarig jubileum van de dood van Michael Brown.
Ik zie anders een hoop zwarte mensen wegduiken en geen enkele politieagent in dat filmpiequote:Op maandag 10 augustus 2015 13:43 schreef Mani89 het volgende:
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Ja in dat filmpje zijn ze op de politie aan het schieten.
quote:Op maandag 10 augustus 2015 13:55 schreef moussie het volgende:
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Waar haal je dat plunderen en de rellen vandaan?
quote:Tensions have been high in Ferguson following a second bout of looting. At least 12 shots were fired and the crowd scattered and sped off in cars.
The situation began to escalate just after 10pm when a Ferguson police officer told the protesters on a megaphone: 'Remaining in the street is a violation of law. You must move onto the sidewalk or be subject to arrest'.
Police put on helmets and riot shields and formed a line. Protesters walked up and down the line saying: 'F*** you' to every officer until the shots rang out.
Paul Hampel, a reporter with the St Louis Post Dispatch, was beaten up and robbed. He had blood coming down the right side of his face and asked other journalists for a phone to call his wife.
In another looting incident, rioters smashed the glass front door of a beauty store on West Florissant Avenue and tried to get into other shops on the same strip.
A group of a dozen youths in their early 20s were seen running away as alarms rang out.
Police officers in cars and SUVs surrounded Bowen Beauty Supply, which had been smashed, as well as Ferguson Laundry, the Nail Trap nail salon, Ferguson Burger restaurant and another beauty store.
The looting took place despite the pouring rain and even though dozens of police were stationed close by.
Before the looting took place around 9pm, protesters had walked up and down West Florissant Avenue holding their arms up in the rain shouting, 'Fight back, shoot back' and 'No justice, no peace'.
A cash register was stolen from Bowen's Beauty Store and found dumped further up the street, St Louis Post Dispatch reporter Paul Hempel tweeted.
Shortly afterwards, a glass fitter measured the front door of the beauty store that had been smashed and put a board over it.
At a barbers store, the owners stood out the front in a show of force to stop others from looting.
Writing on Twitter Anthony French, a city Alderman whose ward covers Ferguson, branded the thieves as 'opportunistic criminals (who) used the cover of rain'. He called them 'pathetic and disappointing'.
On West Florissant Avenue a stand off ensued with protesters blocking traffic whilst 30 police stood by watching.
St Louis County officers wore bullet proof vests, gloves and had pepper spray and white plastic hand ties on their utility belts.
Among the officers present were Ferguson interim police chief Andre Anderson, St Louis County police chief Jon Belmar and Missouri Highway Patrol captain Ron Johnson.
Ok maar er werden in ieder geval agenten beschoten in hun wagen, er is een dader neergeschoten en die is in kritieke toestand afgevoerd.quote:Op maandag 10 augustus 2015 13:57 schreef moussie het volgende:
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Ik zie anders een hoop zwarte mensen wegduiken en geen enkele politieagent in dat filmpie
Niet waar?quote:Op maandag 10 augustus 2015 14:10 schreef moussie het volgende:
looting, bij de kapper en de nagelstudio .. yeah right.
Nou, gezellig was anders als ik alle beelden zo zie.quote:Op maandag 10 augustus 2015 14:26 schreef OMG het volgende:
Ook "ze" trouwens.. Je brengt het alsof heel Ferguson weer op stelten staat.
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