Fedor, comment resigned to start Shooting Girkina.twitter:leonidragozin twitterde op zondag 17-08-2014 om 00:28:26"The world is a matrix and we are computer programmes living within it" - DNR deputy defence minister Fedor Berezin. http://t.co/tf0aOBYp3t reageer retweet
Ja, dat gaat daar helemaal de verkeerde kant uit. Net voor de strijd in het Oosten begon was er ook al een presidentskandidaat aangevallen en volgens mij een andere vermoord.quote:Op zondag 17 augustus 2014 21:25 schreef deelnemer het volgende:
twitter:ASLuhn twitterde op zondag 17-08-2014 om 21:06:281st armed nationalists R Sector threaten Kiev, now Ukraine parliament passes law allowing police to shoot without warning http://t.co/oXx2AcntnA reageer retweet
[..]twitter:ASLuhn twitterde op zondag 17-08-2014 om 21:18:13Another disturbing aspect of Ukr shoot-to-kill law is how Turchynov's comments show lustration=cynical political tool http://t.co/oXx2AcntnA reageer retweet
Als je gelooft dat die president daar en premier schone handjes hebben of zelf iemand in die regering.quote:Op maandag 18 augustus 2014 00:18 schreef Nintex het volgende:
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Ja, dat gaat daar helemaal de verkeerde kant uit. Net voor de strijd in het Oosten begon was er ook al een presidentskandidaat aangevallen en volgens mij een andere vermoord.
Daarnaast waren er berichten dat sommige soldaten na de strijd in Oost Oekraine ook de corrupte politici willen gaan aanpakken. Laten we hopen dat Oekraine eens verstandig blijft en het niet weer op revolutie uitdraait.
Het huidige strijdtoneel:quote:Overall, the nature of the fighting has not changed over the past several days the Junta is no longer able to advance everywhere and has been forced repeatedly to regroup before undertaking new strikes. Moreover, its defeats in the south have become systematic. Nevertheless, it would be too early to talk about overcoming the crisis before the Juntas offensive to the south of Debaltsevo is repulsed and Novosvetlovka is retaken.
Separately with respect to Voyentorg [Note: an ironic term for the notion of cross-border military aid coming from Russia]. Over the past several days, it has stepped up its work, which results in information seeping through to the mass media and symptomatic leaks from the DPR leadership. Certainly, no one will admit this officially, just as the presence of polite people in Crimea was not admitted until a certain moment. That is why the official line on this issue will remain as before all allegations will be refuted, which is not, in itself, blameworthy.
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The Russian humanitarian aid column remains near the border with Ukraine. No go-ahead has been given yet. Most likely, they waiting for the completion of the battles for Novosvetlovka and the purge of the enemys SRGs that otherwise could attack the convoy on the highway.
Overall, as mentioned earlier, the Junta retains initiative to the north of Donetsk and, for now, its offensive there has not been stopped. The victories in the battles for Ilovaisk, Miusinsk and Krasniy Luch should not be confused for a victory in the battle for Donetsk. The situation remains complex and at the moment our forces hold the front with great difficulty.
quote:Rusland: akkoord over hulpkonvooi
maandag 18 aug 2014, 10:31 (Update: 18-08-14, 10:37)
Rusland en Oekrane hebben alle obstakels uit de weg geruimd voor het Russische konvooi met hulpgoederen voor Oost-Oekrane. Dat heeft de Russische minister van Buitenlandse Zaken Lavrov gezegd op een persconferentie in Berlijn.
Wat er precies is afgesproken, zei Lavrov niet. Vermoedelijk zal de lading van de ongeveer 280 Russische vrachtwagens grondig worden onderzocht voordat de trucks de grens over mogen. Dat was een eis van Oekrane, dat bang is dat de Russen ook militair materieel het land in willen brengen. Het Rode Kruis, dat de verantwoordelijkheid krijgt over het konvooi, had veiligheidsgaranties geist.
Staakt-het-vuren
Lavrov onderhandelt in Berlijn met vertegenwoordigers van Oekrane, Duitsland en Frankrijk over de toestand in Oost-Oekrane. Hij bevestigde dat het overleg over een staakt-het-vuren erg moeizaam verloopt.
De Duitse minister Steinmeier zei kort na middernacht na vijf uur onderhandelen al dat er nog geen resultaten zijn geboekt. De partijen gaan in eigen kring overleggen en besluiten morgen of overmorgen of de gesprekken doorgaan.
Drones
Lavrov zei op zijn persconferentie dat Moskou het zou toejuichen als de OVSE met drones de grens tussen Rusland en Oekrane gaat bewaken. De Europese waarnemers kunnen volgens hem dan zien dat er geen sprake is van Russische pogingen of voorbereidingen om Oekrane binnen te trekken.
klinkt als een vergissing.quote:Op maandag 18 augustus 2014 11:47 schreef remlof het volgende:
De vluchtelingen zouden afkomstig zijn uit Novosvitlivka en Chriasjoevate.
Dat zal inderdaad een vergissing zijn, maar dat was MH-17 ongetwijfeld ook.quote:Op maandag 18 augustus 2014 12:12 schreef deelnemer het volgende:
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klinkt als een vergissing.
Novosvetlovka en Khryashevatoye liggen ten ZO van Lugansk. Het zijn de plaatsen waar al dagen gevochten wordt in een poging om Lugansk te omsingelen. De belangrijke weg M-04 van Lugansk naar de Russische grens (waar het Russische humanitaire konvooi staat) loopt langs beide plaatsen. Dat konvooi zie ik om veiligheidsredenen voorlopig niet vertrekken.
“DPR" decides to "protect people" by death penaltyquote:Op maandag 18 augustus 2014 13:43 schreef TLC het volgende:
De zelfverklaarde Republiek Donesk heeft de doodstraf ingevoerd
quote:Belarus receives almost 26,000 Ukrainians - ambassador
KYIV, August 18 /Ukrinform/.
About 26,000 Ukrainian citizens have moved to Belarus over the past two months. Belarusian Ambassador to Ukraine Valentin Velichko said this at a press conference on Monday, a Ukrinform correspondent reported. According to Velichko, the issue of their employment and welfare is currently being resolved. The ambassador also said that Belarus was considering reducing the period of getting refugee status from six to three months.
twitter:mfa_russia twitterde op maandag 18-08-2014 om 13:21:39#Lavrov: For now, we cannot report any progress on a ceasefire or political dialogue negotiations #Ukraine reageer retweet
linked article: (Wall Street Journal, registratie nodig om volledig te zien)twitter:USNATO twitterde op maandag 18-08-2014 om 12:14:44'..unprecedented period of peace has been challenged by Russia's aggression against Ukraine': http://t.co/xZpwbw0oAh http://t.co/dAAWlroSG4 reageer retweet
quote:A NATO for a Dangerous World
Russian aggression has made it clear.We need an alliance that is fitter, faster and more flexible.
By Anders Fogh Rasmussen And Philip M. Breedlove
We both grew up in the shadow of the Cold War, on opposite sides of the Atlantic, and we both remember the extraordinary day when the Berlin Wall came down. Until that day, NATO had kept the Cold War from getting hot. After that day, war in Europe seemed hard to imagine, as former adversaries became NATO allies and we worked to establish a new partnership with Russia.
Now, an unprecedented period of peace has been challenged by Russia's aggression against Ukraine. For the first time since the end of World War II, a...
http://un.ua/eng/article/527483.htmlquote:Turchynov For Ukraine's Accession To NATO (13:47, Monday, August 18, 2014)
Speaker of the Verkhovna Rada Oleksandr Turchynov favours the idea of Ukraine's accession to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), reads a statement made by the parliamentary press service.
"Ukraine must become a members of he European Union and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization," he said in an interview with the Baltic news agency BNS.
Speaker opines, accession to the NATO is a reliable guarantee of protection of the state against Russia's aggressive policy towards Ukraine.
He underlines, consequent on the Russian Federation's aggression most of Ukrainians now support accession to this organisation, including residents of the east.
As Ukrainian News earlier reported, the NATO is likely to increase quantity of joint military exercises with Ukraine but will not provide military equipment to Ukraine.
Turchynov is sure Ukraine will be able to implement all reforms required to accede to the European Union by 2020.
Turchynov is in Lithuania for meetings with officials from August 17 to 19.
http://www.forbes.com/sit(...)rgia-or-anyone-else/quote:Ukraine Crisis Reminds Americans Why NATO Should Not Expand: Not To Ukraine, Georgia, Or Anyone Else
The bitter conflict in Ukraine drags on. Russia appears to have decided against trying to conquer its neighbor. However, Moscow continues to destabilize Kiev by supporting Russian separatists. NATO remains divided on how to respond.
Most Europeans have little stomach for confronting Russia. Economic ties with Moscow are profitable, there is no treaty obligation to Ukraine, and no alliance member desires war. So Washington has taken the lead against Moscow even though America has little at stake in Russia’s misbehavior.
In fact, the crisis has generated a spate of U.S. proposals for military action. Some analysts and politicians advocate direct support for Ukraine and other potentially embattled states. Also popular are proposals to expand NATO.
For instance, ever belligerent Sen. John McCain urged adding Ukraine to the “transatlantic” alliance. Former UN ambassador John Bolton suggested putting “both Georgia and Ukraine on a clear path to NATO membership.” Former Defense Secretary Robert Gates similarly called for making NATO association agreements with Georgia, Ukraine, and Moldova. Other proposed candidates for the alliance include Armenia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Finland, Kosovo, Macedonia, Montenegro, and Sweden.
Efforts to expand NATO are strikingly misguided. Traditional military alliances were created to advance a nation’s security. They were not intended to act as clubs for international business, associations for shared values, or tools for political integration. Military alliances were supposed to prevent and win wars. During the Cold War the U.S. established the alliance to protect the war-ravaged European states from America’s hegemonic adversary, the Soviet Union, and its satellite-allies.
quote:Op maandag 18 augustus 2014 15:34 schreef Automatisch het volgende:
'Escalatie rond hulpkonvooi zou Russen niet slecht uitkomen'
http://www.volkskrant.nl/(...)lecht-uitkomen.dhtml
Niet zeker of dit helemaal klopt, er zijn ook garanties van de rebellen nodig. De humanitaire hulp vanuit Kiev heeft wel 10 steden in Luhansk Oblast, maar niet Luhansk stad zelf bereikt. De Oblast is zo groot als Belgi.quote:Het Rode Kruis eist echter harde veiligheidsgaranties wanneer het de controle over het konvooi overneemt. Die garanties zijn nog geen onderdeel van de afspraken, zegt Hunin: 'Oekrane kan overal groen licht voor geven, als het daarbij niet de veiligheid van de mensen van het Rode Kruis garandeert, gebeurt er helemaal niets.'
De situatie geeft Oekrane de mogelijkheid de schijn te wekken mee te willen werken, maar ondertussen op een impasse aan te sturen: 'Oekrane heeft totaal geen behoefte aan Russisch machtsvertoon binnen de eigen landsgrenzen. Dus waarom zou het dan de benodigde veiligheidsgaranties geven? Oekrane wil juist naar de eigen bevolking uitstralen dat het de humanitaire hulp van de Russen niet nodig heeft.'
quote:Op zondag 17 augustus 2014 19:12 schreef deelnemer het volgende:
twitter:myroslavapetsa twitterde op zondag 17-08-2014 om 15:37:34Pavlo Klimkin says Stepan Bandera's grave in Munich wasn't blown up. Vandals broke the cross and started digging out the grave reageer retweet
twitter:myroslavapetsa twitterde op zondag 17-08-2014 om 15:58:23#Bandera spent 1942-44 in Nazi concentration camp Sachsenhausen for plotting revolution vs Reichskommissariat to create independent #Ukraine reageer retweet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Banderaquote:At that juncture, with the war going very badly against Germany, Bandera was released in the hope that he would fight the advancing Soviet forces. He established his headquarters in Berlin and received German financial, materiel, and personnel support for his Ukrainian Insurgent Army.
After the war, in 1959, in Munich, Germany, Bandera was assassinated by the Soviet KGB (secret police).[1][2]
Assessments of his work have ranged from totally apologetic to sharply negative.[3] On 22 January 2010, the outgoing President of Ukraine Viktor Yushchenko awarded Bandera the posthumous title of Hero of Ukraine.[4] The award was condemned by European Parliament, Russian, Polish and Jewish organizations[5][6][7][8] and was declared illegal by the following Ukrainian government and a court decision in April 2010. In January 2011, the award was officially annulled.[9]
twitter:ChechenCenter twitterde op maandag 18-08-2014 om 18:07:17Русские террористы сравнили Путина с Богом и сыном Бога. На этот раз связываться с Богом нужно только через Путина. http://t.co/FSjzZYn7dN reageer retweet
wtfquote:Op maandag 18 augustus 2014 18:54 schreef bedachtzaam het volgende:
Netjes aansluiten in de rij en wachten op je beurt...[ afbeelding ]twitter:ChechenCenter twitterde op maandag 18-08-2014 om 18:07:17Русские террористы сравнили Путина с Богом и сыном Бога. На этот раз связываться с Богом нужно только через Путина. http://t.co/FSjzZYn7dN reageer retweet
so gay.quote:Op maandag 18 augustus 2014 18:54 schreef bedachtzaam het volgende:
Netjes aansluiten in de rij en wachten op je beurt...[ afbeelding ]twitter:ChechenCenter twitterde op maandag 18-08-2014 om 18:07:17Русские террористы сравнили Путина с Богом и сыном Бога. На этот раз связываться с Богом нужно только через Путина. http://t.co/FSjzZYn7dN reageer retweet
quote:Ukraine conflict causes its July industrial output to plummet
July's output fell 12.1 percent from July a year ago, accelerating from a 5 percent drop in June, the state statistics service said on Monday.
Production fell 28.5 percent in Donetsk and 56 percent in Luhansk in July from last July, the state statistics service said.
http://potsreotizm.livejournal.com/3491316.htmlquote:Op maandag 18 augustus 2014 18:54 schreef bedachtzaam het volgende:
Netjes aansluiten in de rij en wachten op je beurt...[ afbeelding ]twitter:ChechenCenter twitterde op maandag 18-08-2014 om 18:07:17Русские террористы сравнили Путина с Богом и сыном Бога. На этот раз связываться с Богом нужно только через Путина. http://t.co/FSjzZYn7dN reageer retweet
http://rt.com/news/180972(...).U_Ilvie1ORw.twitterquote:West has more influence than Kiev on oligarchs’ armies in Ukraine – Lavrov
Moscow believes the West has more influence on various paramilitary forces in Ukraine - sponsored by local oligarchs - than Kiev does, Russian FM said citing the latest bickering between Right Sector and the Interior Ministry.
“The authorities in Kiev are not in control of the numerous paramilitary forces, including Right Sector, which, we estimate, comprises a large portion of the National Guard. The demarche of Right Sector towards the Ukrainian Interior Minister speaks for itself,” Sergey Lavrov said, adding that existence of armed groups sponsored by Ukrainian oligarchs, such as the Azov and Dnepr battalions, poses a great security threat.
“We work with our Western partners in Europe and the United States who can really influence those paramilitary units that don’t answer to the central government in Kiev. We know the West has such influence,” he added.
Lavrov was referring to the weekend ultimatum of the far-right group, which threatened to pull out its troops from eastern Ukraine and march on Kiev unless President Petro Poroshenko fires several police officials, including a deputy interior minister. The group later reduced its demands, saying that the release of its activists previously arrested by the police was sufficient.
In het kader van:quote:Op maandag 18 augustus 2014 19:21 schreef meth1745 het volgende:
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http://rt.com/news/180972(...).U_Ilvie1ORw.twitter
quote:Op maandag 18 augustus 2014 19:14 schreef deelnemer het volgende:
The New York Times
Rebels Killed Dozens in Attack of Refugees, Ukraine Says
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quote:“The Donetsk People’s Republic and Luhansk People’s Republic did not shoot at refugees with Grad supposedly provided by Russia,” he said.
All Grad rocket launchers in Luhansk, he said, were captured as “trophy” weapons from the Ukrainian Army, not provided by Russia. About the refugee convoy, he added, “we would not form a column ourselves and then shoot at it ourselves.”
http://www.theguardian.co(...)y-rockets?CMP=twt_guquote:Dozens of people, including women and children, were killed on Monday when a convoy carrying refugees was hit by rocket fire near the eastern city of Luhansk, a Ukrainian military spokesman said.
Government forces and pro-Russian rebels accused each other of the attack on the vehicles, which were evacuating civilians from the towns of Khryaschuvate and Novosvitlivka.
"The rebels were expecting the convoy and destroyed it entirely. We haven't been able to count the number of victims ... dozens (were killed)," spokesman Andriy Lysenko said in a briefing to journalists.
Another military spokesman, Anatoly Proshin, said that evacuees were being transported by military vehicles flying white flags, which were hit by mortars and Grad rockets.
"As a result, there were a huge number of casualties. People were burned alive in the vehicles that were taking them out," Proshin told the Ukrainian Pravda newspaper.
yep, en extra aandacht vestigen op het dreigement van Right Sektor...quote:Op maandag 18 augustus 2014 19:31 schreef deelnemer het volgende:
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In het kader van:
Als Het Westen stelt dat Rusland invloed heeft op de Pro-Russische strijders in Oost-Oekraine, dan stelt Rusland dat Het Westen invloed heeft op de pro-Oekrainse paramilitaire strijders.
quote:"I want to stress that ... Article 5 of the NATO contract - the duty to provide mutual support - is not something which just exists on paper, but is also something which must be filled with life," said Merkel on a visit to the Latvian capital, Riga.
quote:Merkel told a joint news conference with Latvian Prime Minister Laimdota Straujuma that Germany would start "air policing" flights in Latvia from Aug. 20.
"But we must also now supplement this with further exercises and maneuvers, so that we can react swiftly and without hesitation," she said. "Everything must be done so that we have the infrastructure in the Baltic states to react quickly."
... die desnoods even zouden oprukken naar Kiev.quote:Op maandag 18 augustus 2014 19:40 schreef meth1745 het volgende:
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yep, en extra aandacht vestigen op het dreigement van Right Sektor...
quote:Op maandag 18 augustus 2014 19:45 schreef deelnemer het volgende:
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... die desnoods even zouden oprukken naar Kiev.![]()
Als hij dat echt heeft gezegd dan blijkt wel dat Kiev de toestand niet in handen heeft, blijkbaar hebben ze groepen bewapend (of niet ontwapend zoals de Geneve overeenkomst voorzag) en weten ze niet waar die zijn.quote:The Right Sector demanded that President Petro Poroshenko cleaned out the Interior Ministry staff members they considered disloyal and closed all criminal cases launched against the movement’s members, threatening to otherwise withdraw from the conflict zone in eastern Ukraine and start moving toward the Ukrainian capital.
In turn, Interior Minister Arsen Avakov responded to the ultimatum of the Right Sector, accusing Yarosh of lying to his own people. Avakov doubted that the Right Sector militants were present anywhere near the front line and claimed nobody had actually seen them "other than on photo and video."
On August 17, Right Sector leader Dmytro Yarosh reversed his statement, saying the demands were met in part and that the militants will continue to fight against the independence supporters in the east of Ukraine and will not march on Kiev.
quote:Russian Military Vehicles Seen On Move Just Inside Ukraine
16:07 (GMT)
A YouTube video, purportedly shot today in the town of Sukhodolsk, just across the border and a little to the north-west of the Izvarino crossing, shows a large column of military vehicles on the move:
quote:The vehicles seen include Kamaz trucks (some towing artillery,) military ambulances and, at the end, a BMD-2 infantry fighting vehicle.
The vehicles appear to lack number plates
In fact, they closely resemble ones photographed yesterday in Russia by Polish journalist Wojciech Bojanowski:
http://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/31015.htmlquote:President discussed tactics of further actions in the ATO with heads of security forces
President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko held a meeting with heads of security forces and discussed the tactics of further actions in the ATO.
"Today, we must consider a new content of military operation under new conditions," the Head of State emphasized.
Petro Poroshenko noted that the information on the entry of 1200 trained militants and armored vehicles to the territory of Ukraine "from the eastern neighbor" had been confirmed. Part of these vehicles has been destroyed. Now, measures are being taken to destroy the rest of them.
"Today, we must regroup our forces. It will ensure the protection of our territory and the continuation of offensive actions of our army," the President said.
The Head of State informed that the offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the National Guard successfully continued, though the price of it was extremely high. "Each day we lose Ukrainian heroes," he said. Yesterday, as a result of direct hit by a grenade, an armored personnel carrier with paratroopers was destroyed. Husband of well-known volunteer Tetyana Rychkova is among the deceased. The Head of State instructed the Minister of Defense to prepare a submission for granting decorations to heroes who protect the Donbas at the cost of their lives.
The President emphasizes that currently there is a task to cut off the system of providing terrorists with mercenaries, new arms and ammunition, because its provision continues through the uncontrolled areas of the border. According to the President, the tactics now is "to cut the territories controlled by terrorists into zones, narrow the encirclement and deprive them of the opportunity to receive weapons and ammunition".
The Head of State stressed that dozens of cities and villages had been liberated from terrorists. "The main thing is that millions of people are free and return to normal life," he said.
Petro Poroshenko noted that the main cities controlled by militants had been already besieged. Unfortunately, they are about to face environmental disaster. The level of water in the mines of the Donbas became dangerous. Terrorists destroy transformer substations by artillery fire undermining the energy supply of complete production cycle enterprises. "Industrial potential of the Donbas is virtually being destroyed," the President said informing that currently, Ukrainian repairmen often restore the power system under the gun.
"Terrorists are temporary residents of these places, so they have no ties with them. The worse is the better for them. They destroy infrastructure, substations, bridges, enterprises. It is the guilt of militants and their foreign patrons," the President emphasized.
The Head of State offered to discuss tactics on reducing the damage and avoiding the risk for people and the elimination of industrial potential of the Donbas "to minimize work on restoration of normal life".
Hmm, dat is inderdaad opmerkelijk. Eerlijk gezegd, verwacht ik dat zolang Poetin aan de macht is in Rusland, dat de contacten er niet veel beter op worden en mogelijk langzaam verder escaleren. Poetin is te lang aan de macht ondertussen en dan krijg je dit soort dingen. Nu is hij nogal populair onder de Russen en is de staatsmedia helemaal in zijn handen. Poetin blijft voorlopig dus nog wel aan de macht en het kan lang duren voordat de contacten met het Westen weer verbeteren. Aardige kans dat de aankomende budgetverhoging voor Defensie voorlopig niet de laatste is.quote:Op maandag 18 augustus 2014 19:44 schreef Nintex het volgende:
Merkel wil de Baltische staten beter gaan verdedigen/voorbereiden tegen een mogelijke Russische aanval:
http://www.reuters.com/ar(...)dUSKBN0GI1JI20140818
Opvallend, zulke harde taal heb ik haar nog niet eerder horen uitspreken:
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De rebellen ontkennen, werd in het journaal gezegd. Er zijn ook geen aanwijzingen dat dit is gebeurd. Wel zijn er aanwijzingen dat de regering van Oekraine constant zit te liegen.quote:Op maandag 18 augustus 2014 11:47 schreef remlof het volgende:
'Raket op bussen met vluchtelingen uit Loehansk'
Een colonne vluchtelingen uit de regio Loehansk is volgens de Oekraense regering beschoten door rebellen. Ze zouden dat hebben gedaan met Grad-raketten en mortiergranaten. Dat heeft het Oekraense persbureau Interfax vandaag gemeld.
Volgens een legerwoordvoerder zijn er waarschijnlijk veel slachtoffers gevallen. Een aantal kon hij niet geven. Mensen zouden zijn verbrand in hun auto's. De vluchtelingen zouden afkomstig zijn uit Novosvitlivka en Chriasjoevate.
De rebellen hebben nog niet gereageerd.
Er zijn ook sterke aanwijzingen dat de seperatisten en de Russen steeds zitten te liegen.quote:Op maandag 18 augustus 2014 20:40 schreef Loekie1 het volgende:
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De rebellen ontkennen, werd in het journaal gezegd. Er zijn ook geen aanwijzingen dat dit is gebeurd. Wel zijn er aanwijzingen dat de regering van Oekraine constant zit te liegen.
twitter:myroslavapetsa twitterde op maandag 18-08-2014 om 12:04:17Archpriest Georgiy [Kovalenko], spox of #Moscow patriarchate of Orthdox Church: #Crimea is #Ukraine's territory and it must be returned reageer retweet
Er is verdacht weinig info over dit incident.quote:Op maandag 18 augustus 2014 19:37 schreef meth1745 het volgende:
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http://www.theguardian.co(...)y-rockets?CMP=twt_gu
Ik snap het niet helemaal, hadden de rebellen dan militaire voertuigen geleverd voor het konvooi?
Zou pas opmerkelijk zijn als ie het tegenovergestelde beweerde. Ze verliezen nu al parochianen aan de concurrentie.quote:Op maandag 18 augustus 2014 20:59 schreef deelnemer het volgende:
twitter:myroslavapetsa twitterde op maandag 18-08-2014 om 12:04:17Archpriest Georgiy [Kovalenko], spox of #Moscow patriarchate of Orthdox Church: #Crimea is #Ukraine's territory and it must be returned reageer retweet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Christianity_in_Ukrainequote:Currently, three major Ukrainian Orthodox Churches coexist, and often compete, in the country: the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Kyivan Patriarchate, the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate), and the Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church. Additionally, a significant body of Christians belong to the Eastern Rite Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church, and a smaller number are in the Ruthenian Catholic Church.
Een van de partijen gaat over lijken. Dit had de onderzoekers ook kunnen overkomen daarom is het goed dat ze daar weg zijn.quote:Op maandag 18 augustus 2014 21:23 schreef deelnemer het volgende:
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Er is verdacht weinig info over dit incident.
De meneer van de Oekraense ijshockeybond formuleert het ook met nogal een understatement:quote:Op maandag 18 augustus 2014 23:21 schreef sp3c het volgende:
geen wk ijshockey meer in donetsk komend seizoen
http://www.iihf.com/home-(...)37d7797fc22070a25f83
dat zal ze leren potverdikkeme!!!
quote:“Unfortunately, we cannot be fully protected against that fact that the political tension in the country is an obstacle for foreign visitors and fans who want to visit the ice festival in Donetsk,” the Ice Hockey Federation of Ukraine’s President Anatoli Brezvin said in a statement.
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