Oorlog in Libi� #103: Waar de meningen erg verdeeld zijn..

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A major blow may have been dealt to the Libyan National Transitional Council with the killing of its senior military commander, General Abdel Fattah Younes, the chief of staff of the Libyan opposition army.

Right after the incident Mustafa Abdel Jalil, the head of the opposition, said Younes was killed on his way to a military council hearing along with two of his men.

Younes, a former aide and interior minister to Gaddafi, defected on February 20 and helped the mostly unarmed protesters in Benghazi overthrow the regime's military garnison there.

Who could have been behind the killing of Abdel Fatah Younes? And what will this mean for the rebels' campaign to remove Muammar Gaddafi from power?

Inside Story, with presenter Hazem Sika, discusses with Ashur Shamis, a Libyan journalist and writer; Alexandre Vautravers, a professor of international relations at Webster University in Geneva and the editor of the Swiss Military Review; and Rami Khouri, the director of the Issam Fares Institute at the American University of Beirut.

This episode of Inside Story aired from Friday, July 29, 2011.

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Op zondag 31 juli 2011 16:22 schreef Winordie het volgende:

Of was het misschien de bedoeling van de NAVO om dit land in hell en verdoemenis te stortten?

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Op zondag 31 juli 2011 16:22 schreef Winordie het volgende:
Niet alleen heeft het rebellen leger in vele maanden geen enkele grote millitaire overwinning behaald,

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Op zondag 31 juli 2011 16:22 schreef Winordie het volgende:
nu komen er ook meer en meer verhalen naar buiten van machtsstrijd binnen het rebellen leger.

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Op zondag 31 juli 2011 16:22 schreef Winordie het volgende:
De VN resolutie zogenaamd om burgers te beschermen is in bijna elke letter van het woord overtreden en het is ook ondenkbaar dat Rusland, China of Duitsland geen veto uitspreekt als deze resolutie in half September velengd of venieuwd moet worden.

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Op zondag 31 juli 2011 16:22 schreef Winordie het volgende:
Nog andehalve maand lijkt nog lang maar de Ramadan begint morgen en de part-time revolutinaire rebellen hebben al aangegeven liever niet te vechten zonder verwend te worden met 3 warme maaltijden per dag.

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Op zondag 31 juli 2011 16:35 schreef Weltschmerz het volgende:

Dat is het succesvolle Joegoslavische model, inclusief het bombarderen van burgerdoelen zoals tv-zenders.

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Op zondag 31 juli 2011 16:35 schreef Weltschmerz het volgende:
Met bombarderen maak je een land veel sneller kapot

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Op zondag 31 juli 2011 17:11 schreef Aloulou het volgende:

Uhmmmm.... er is er 1 in Libie die het land doelbewust vernietigt op dit moment. En dat is vooral kolonel Daffy die een verschroeide aarde taktiek aanhoudt en alle steden/dorpen plat laat gooien van een afstand voordat hij zich verder terugtrekt. Misrata, Zintan nu en nog veel meer steden waar men doelbewust infrastructuur vernietigt. Of is dit Westerse propaganda?

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Op zondag 31 juli 2011 17:24 schreef Weltschmerz het volgende:

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Aan Westerse propaganda sowieso geen gebrek, maar de hele situatie is door de NATO gecreeerd, die hebben van een oproer een burgeroorlog gemaakt.

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Op zondag 31 juli 2011 17:24 schreef Weltschmerz het volgende:

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Aan Westerse propaganda sowieso geen gebrek, maar de hele situatie is door de NATO gecreeerd, die hebben van een oproer een burgeroorlog gemaakt.

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Op zondag 31 juli 2011 17:41 schreef Aloulou het volgende:

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Ze hebben een massaslachting voorkomen in Benghazi bedoel je. Khadafi stond op het punt Benghazi in te nemen en zou zonder enige twijfel laten zien wie de overwinnaar is.

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En Frankrijk en Engeland gaan door tot hij opgelazerd is.

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"NATO die joegoslaviemodel" hanteert "en burgerdoelen bestookt" en "land vernietigt" is in ieder geval totaal niet waar.

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Op zondag 31 juli 2011 16:22 schreef Winordie het volgende:

Nog andehalve maand heeft rebellen leger de machtige NAVO aan zijn zijde met massale cluster bommen die hele wooncomplexen met een single anti-gebouwen cluster bommen neerhalen.

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Nog andehalve maand lijkt nog lang maar de Ramadan begint morgen en de part-time revolutinaire rebellen hebben al aangegeven liever niet te vechten zonder verwend te worden met 3 warme maaltijden per dag.

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Khadaffi's staatstv en Russia Today leugens telkens herhalen maakt ze nog niet waar hoor.

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Libya rebels take Zlitan as RAF clears way after two-month struggle

Bombing campaign destroys Gaddafi tanks, rocket launchers, ammunition dumps and command centres

Libyan rebels have entered the town of Zlitan after a weekend of heavy fighting in which Nato escalated its bombing campaign in the runup to the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

RAF planes dropped 16 Paveway laser-guided bombs in two days around the town, destroying government tanks, rocket launchers, ammunition dumps and command centres, and clearing a path for the rebels.

The Ministry of Defence said RAF jets also attacked a railway construction site at Bani Walid, south-west of Zlitan, commandeered for use as a military fuel distribution facility.

Opposition fighters said the town, which they have struggled to capture for eight weeks, was quiet on Monday, with no sign of government troops. We are in the town centre and we have the hospital," said rebel fighter Yunus Al-Haq. "It's good for the spirit."

But securing the town for the opposition depends on clearing one final obstacle – agreement from the elders of the town's Fowater tribe that Misratan fighters can be "invited" to occupy Zlitan.

After that, rebel commanders expect government forces to pull back to Al Khums, 22 miles to the west. Despite the capture of tanks and heavy artillery over the weekend, rebel units are too lightly armed to contemplate a headlong rush to Tripoli. They have evolved a strategy of pressing against government lines, forcing Muammar Gaddafi to deploy forces in concentrations that provide inviting targets for Nato.

Nato bombing returns show that 54 military targets around Zlitan were destroyed since 25 July, one of the heaviest bombing concentrations of the war. The bombing appears to have caused government lines to crumble over the week, with rebels reporting that loyalist troops offered little resistance to their advance. Forty government troops gave themselves up on Sunday in the biggest one-day surrender of the war.

RAF Tornado and Typhoon aircraft were particularly active over the past few days, bombing of three satellite dishes used by Libyan state television. "This strike was an attempt to disrupt the broadcast of Gaddafi's murderous rhetoric, which has repeatedly sought to incite violence against fellow Libyans," said the chief military spokesman at the Ministry of Defence, Major General Nick Pope.

But British defence officials said the Nato campaign was likely to be scaled down during Ramadan, which started on Monday. They suggested that targets in Tripoli in particular would be avoided.

The fall of Zlitan also poses problems for Gaddafi in finding new troops to hold the expanding front line around Misrata without drawing off other forces needed on the eastern front and in the Nafusa mountains to the west. Both fronts were reportedly quiet on Monday, the eastern front still disrupted by confusion caused by Thursday's murder of army commander Abdul Fatah Youness and the Nafusa brigades massing for an attack on the town of Tiji, 150 miles south west of Tripoli. The onset of Ramadan saw Misrata go into semi-hibernation, and residents are hoping the capture of Zlitan will finally put Gaddafi's rockets out of range of a city that has been under bombardment since March.

France announced on Monday that it was releasing $259m (�159.14m) in frozen Libyan funds to the opposition and allowing the rebels' new ambassador to use the country's mothballed embassy in Paris.

The French foreign ministry said the money frozen in French banks must be used for humanitarian purposes, in accordance with European law.

The announcement came after the foreign finister, Alain Juppe, met Mansour Seyf al-Nasr, the Libyan opposition's ambassador to Paris.

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Op maandag 1 augustus 2011 22:29 schreef lutser.com het volgende:
De NAVO lijkt de no flyzone niet heel strikt te handhaven.

http://defensetech.org/2011/07/27/the-free-libyan-air-force-2/

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Op maandag 1 augustus 2011 22:29 schreef lutser.com het volgende:
De NAVO lijkt de no flyzone niet heel strikt te handhaven.

http://defensetech.org/2011/07/27/the-free-libyan-air-force-2/

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"It is also very difficult for the opposition fighters for the very simple reaosn that they've been getting very mixed messages from the residents of Zlitan. Some of them clearly support Col Gaddafi, and have told the opposition fighters. Others have told them that if [they] come closer to Zlitan - the suburbs of Zlitan, which is where they had reached until this morning - then there are rebels inside Zlitan that will rise and help you. Well that did not happen. And so the fighters of Misrata are very reluctant to go into Zlitan more at this stage, because they could be perceived by many of the people inside that town as invading their town, and bringing the fight to their town. So unless they get an invitation, as they call it, from the tribes of Zlitan it's very difficult for them to go in."

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Rebels who seized the government-held town of Ghazaia in Libya's Western Mountain in a new offensive describe themselves as "liberators", but there were no cheers when they rolled in.

Its estimated 5,000 residents, supporters of Muammar Gaddafi, had been transported to his stronghold Tripoli by his militiamen, leaving behind a ghost town.

"We would have liked to have been welcomed here. These people all liked Gaddafi. They benefitted from him," said a rebel named Majdi, standing beside rows of houses built by Libyans aided by soft loans from the government.

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Now rebels are surrounding the town of Tiji, which also supports Gaddafi. On Sunday afternoon rebels on the frontline fired tank shells and anti-aircraft guns at government forces.

"They like Gaddafi in Tiji," said a rebel named Osama as missiles were fired back, pounding the earth. "After Gaddafi loses we will remember that the people of Tiji loved him. That's why it's tough fighting here. It is a reality."

Another fighter who overheard quickly rushed over to correct him. "No. No everything will be fine. Libya will be stable," he said nervously.

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Op dinsdag 2 augustus 2011 20:45 schreef Monidique het volgende:

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http://blogs.aljazeera.net/liveblog/libya-aug-2-2011-1650

En dan ook nog een ander bericht dat rebellen pro-Khaddafi-dorpen zouden schoonvegen, want ja, ze waren voor Khaddafi. Mocht-ie niet zeggen van z'n leider. Kan het artikel nog niet vinden.

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http://af.reuters.com/art(...)irtualBrandChannel=0


Gaat kortom lekker met die "vrijheidsstrijders".

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Op dinsdag 2 augustus 2011 21:44 schreef sp3c het volgende:
als dit de ernstigste uitspraak van de frontlinie soldaten is die je kunt vinden dan valt het allemaal nog best mee zoek je niet hard genoeg

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Op dinsdag 2 augustus 2011 22:45 schreef Monidique het volgende:
Nou ja, goed, dat vind ik nogal naief, maar dat mag.

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Op dinsdag 2 augustus 2011 23:32 schreef sp3c het volgende:
denk niet dat die vluchtelingenstroom uberhaupt meegenomen is in de beslissing

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Op dinsdag 2 augustus 2011 23:32 schreef sp3c het volgende:
denk niet dat die vluchtelingenstroom uberhaupt meegenomen is in de beslissing

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NEW YORK — De VN-Veiligheidsraad vindt geen gepast antwoord op het bloedig neerslaan van protest en het doden van burgers in Syri�. Vooral het aanhoudende conflict in Libi� werkt verlammend, menen diplomaten bij de Verenigde Naties.

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Op dinsdag 2 augustus 2011 23:36 schreef waht het volgende:

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Kan best, wat nogal kortzichtig is. Zeker als Itali� daarin een belangrijke rol moet spelen.

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Op dinsdag 2 augustus 2011 23:45 schreef sp3c het volgende:

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ja nou laten we wel wezen, dit had natuurlijk al lang afgelopen moeten zijn
dat halve zachte gedoe werkt gewoon niet maar iedere keer proberen 'we' het weer

je kunt geen oorlog uitvechten zonder slachtoffers, dat moet je ook niet proberen
doe het goed of doe het niet want nu valt er een veelvoud aan slachtoffers als wanner je gewoon in het begin hard en hoog (Ghadaffi's hoofd) in had gezet en met alle mogelijke middelen naar Tripoli was opgetrokken om vervolgens direct weer op het schip naar huis te stappen ... puur en alleen de regime change en verder niets

nu verscheurt het land iedere dag met elke dode aan welke kant dan ook steeds een stukje verder en je gaat op een punt uitkomen waar je beter een demarcatielijn en 2 nieuwe staten op de kaart kunt tekenen want die gaan never nooit meer vredig naast elkaar wonen in 1 land

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Op woensdag 3 augustus 2011 08:10 schreef Monidique het volgende:

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Als je dit weet, waarom in godsnaam vraag je dan waarom het een domme, ondoordachte Westerse aanval was?

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Op woensdag 3 augustus 2011 08:10 schreef Monidique het volgende:

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Als je dit weet, waarom in godsnaam vraag je dan waarom het een domme, ondoordachte Westerse aanval was?

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Gadaffi-rebels in talks with islamist-government factions.TRIPOLI: After six months battling a rebellion that his family portrayed as an Islamist conspiracy, Muammar Gaddafi's son and one-time heir apparent has said he is reversing course to forge a behind-the-scenes alliance with radical Islamist elements among the Libyan rebels to drive out their more liberal-minded confederates.

''The liberals will escape or be killed,'' Saif al-Islam Gaddafi vowed in an hour-long interview.

''We will do it together,'' he added, wearing a newly grown beard and fingering Islamic prayer beads.

''Libya will look like Saudi Arabia, like Iran. So what?''

The leading Islamist whom Gaddafi identified as his main counterpart in the talks, Ali Sallabi, acknowledged their conversations but dismissed any suggestion of an alliance. He said the Libyan Islamists supported the rebel leaders' calls for a pluralistic democracy without the Gaddafis.

But the interview nonetheless offered a rare glimpse into the defiant, some say delusional, mentality of the Gaddafi family at a time when they have all but completely retreated from public view under the threat of a NATO bombing campaign and a six-month-old rebellion.

On one level, Gaddafi's avowed embrace of the Islamists represents a sharp personal reversal for a man who had long styled himself as a cosmopolitan, Anglophile advocate of Western-style liberal democracy. He continues to refer to the Islamists as ''terrorists'' and ''bloody men'' and says: ''We don't trust them but we have to deal with them.''

But it could also represent a twist on an old theme, a new version of the Gaddafi argument that by assisting the rebels the Western intervention could usher in a radical Islamist takeover. In a further taunt to the West, he suggested that the Gaddafis would help the Islamists stamp out the liberals.

''I know they are terrorists. They are bloody. They are not nice. But you have to accept them.''

Gaddafi insisted that he and the Islamists would announce a joint communique within days, from both Tripoli and the rebels' provisional capital of Benghazi. ''We will have peace during Ramadan,'' he said.

Less than a week after the mysterious killing of the rebels' top military commander, General Abdel Fattah Younis, by rebel gunmen, Gaddafi also seemed to be trying to capitalise on potential divisions within their ranks.

There have been suggestions that the general was killed by an Islamist faction, perhaps in retaliation for his actions in his former role as Muammar Gaddafi's interior minister, charged with the detention and torture of radical Islamists.

''They decided to get rid of those people - the ex-military people like Abdel Fattah and the liberals - to take control of the whole operation,'' Gaddafi said. ''In other words, to take off the mask.''

He said that the rebel-held eastern city of Darna, long known as a hotbed of Islamist activism, had already come to resemble the lawless regions of Pakistan. ''It is Waziristan on the Mediterranean,'' he said, adding that he had reached an agreement with local Islamists to allow them to make it ''an Islamic zone, like Mecca''.

Rebel leaders and Western governments have long acknowledged the presence of Islamists among the rebel fighters, including at least one who was imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay.

But Western governments have so far accepted the Libyan Islamists' pledges of support for a pluralistic democracy after the ousting of Muammar Gaddafi, concluding that their agenda was purely domestic and posed no broader threat.

As for the future of an Islamist Libya, Gaddafi was vague on the details. He said he had agreed to Islamist demands to prohibit any constitution other than the Koran, though Sallabi, the Islamist leader, said he has written publicly in support of a civil constitution.

And Gaddafi refused to discuss his own or his father's future role. That was a question for after negotiating a peace, he said. ''It is like you shoot first and ask questions later.''

The New York Times


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/(...)0.html#ixzz1U4oLPOIu

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WalkerSkyNews twitterde op vrijdag 05-08-2011 om 01:50:40 Gaddafi regime distances itself from Saif al Islam's comments on Islamist allegiance saying 'he does not speak for the government' reageer retweet

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JomanaCNN twitterde op vrijdag 05-08-2011 om 02:40:06 Re Saif #Gaddafi 's comments to NY Times- Dep FM told us he thinks it's Saif's own position "not the position of the government" #Libya reageer retweet

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Libya_United twitterde op vrijdag 05-08-2011 om 02:57:58 Very nice! Now #Gaddafis give statements but we have to wait for #Rixos puppet to tell the world if those are bed room or office statements! reageer retweet

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libyanproud twitterde op vrijdag 05-08-2011 om 02:11:18 Breaking: Protesters in #Tripoli are being met with heavy gunfire Now ! #Feb17 #Libya reageer retweet

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live2Tripoli twitterde op woensdag 03-08-2011 om 18:13:54 There are more and more abductions in #Tripoli. The people aren't even taken to proper jails. It's absurd and god be with them! #Libya reageer retweet

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Rebels say NATO raid killed Gaddafi son

A NATO raid killed Muammar Gaddafi's son Khamis and more than 30 other people, rebels said Friday, as Tripoli accused the alliance of targeting civilian sites and trying to create a humanitarian crisis.

Khamis Gaddafi, 28, was confirmed to be among the dead following a NATO air strike on a command centre in the western town of Zliten, a rebel spokesman told AFP, citing spies operating among Gaddafi's ranks.

"Overnight there was a aircraft attack by NATO on the Gaddafi operations room in Zliten and there are around 32 Gaddafi troops killed. One of them is Khamis," said Mohammed Zawawi, a spokesman for the United Revolutionary Forces.

Rebels said their own operations room in eastern Libya had also intercepted radio chatter indicating Gaddafi's son had been killed.

There was no independent verification of his death, which has been rumoured a number of times during Libya's five month-long civil war.

At the Naples headquarters of NATO's Libya operations, an official asked about the claim, said: "We're looking into it."

Khamis, who was trained at a Russian military academy, commands the eponymous and much-feared Khamis Brigade -- one of the Libyan regime's toughest fighting units.

The strike appears to have come just hours after Tripoli took journalists on an escorted tour of the centre of Zliten, an effort to rubbish rebel claims the town was under attack.

Fighters from the rebel enclave of Misrata, 60 kilometres (37 miles) to the east, announced this week they had made progress in Zliten, a strategic coastal town on the road to Tripoli. But authorities in Tripoli quickly denied that, saying they controlled the entire town.

On Thursday an AFP journalist saw the town centre was in the hands of regime forces, although intensive artillery fire was heard in the distance.

Residents said the frontline is located at a distance of 10 to 15 kilometres (six to nine miles) east of the town centre while rebel official said they control three eastern neighbourhoods.

State television reported meanwhile that NATO warplanes struck Tripoli early on Friday, as the Gaddafi regime accused rebels of sabotaging a key pipeline feeding the country's sole functioning refinery.

About 10 loud explosions rocked the Libyan capital around 1:30 am (2330 GMT), an AFP journalist said.

Shortly afterwards, Libyan television said "civilian and military sites" at the southeastern suburb of Khellat al-Ferjan had been targeted by "the colonialist aggressor."

Deputy Foreign Minister Khaled Kaaim meanwhile said late Thursday that rebel forces had sabotaged a pipeline in the strategic Nefusa mountains, southeast of Tripoli.

"The rebels turned off a valve and poured cement over it," he said, adding that this would lead to a shortage of electricity in the capital as oil and gas were used at the Zawiyah refinery to generate power.

Kaaim said food and medicine supplies were spoiling in the capital due to long power cuts. Tripoli residents complained Thursday of extensive blackouts and an acute shortage of gas canisters.

NATO "wants to create a humanitarian crisis in Libya while the aim of its mission is to protect civilians," Kaaim said.

The Khadafi regime tried Thursday to split the fractious Libyan opposition by claiming an alliance with Islamists.

After months of branding the entire opposition as radical extremists, the veteran leader's most prominent son, Seif al-Islam Gaddafi, spoke of a pact with Ali Sallabi, a leading Islamic cleric in the rebel-held east. Sallabi told AFP no pact existed, but he acknowledged talks had taken place with Seif al-Islam.Libya's rebel-held east was in the grips of a fallout from the assassination of General Abdel Fatah Yunis.

A group of 28 tribes and civil actors met the insurgent government, pressing for a full and transparent investigation into Yunis's death.

The facts surrounding the general's death have been opaque, with senior members of the NTC giving incomplete and contradictory accounts of how he died, who killed him and the motive for the murder.

The rebels scored a minor victory Thursday, when a massive oil tanker -- the 182-metre (600-foot) long "Cartagena" -- steamed into port at the eastern rebel stronghold of Benghazi. A rebel soldier said the vessel had been intercepted two days earlier near Tripoli with the help of NATO.

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سجين ليبي سابق اكثر من 60 الف معتقل في طرابلس

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Despite the use of fixed wing aircraft and helicopter gunships and despite rebel claims that the town had fallen earlier this week, fighting raged yesterday on Zlitan's eastern fringes. A handful of loud explosions were accompanied by the whine of jet engines on Nato aircraft.

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However the main impediment to the fall of the town is the hatred of local tribes towards Misuratans. The proximity of the two towns belies a deep-rooted antipathy.

Many local families are the descendants of slaves captured by the pirates that operated from Misurata in the 19th century.

"I have no friends or acquaintances from Misurata, I know nobody from there," said Khalifa Misha, a schools inspector. "They have no right to come here. We will resist this conquest until the last drop of blood."

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Despite the use of fixed wing aircraft and helicopter gunships and despite rebel claims that the town had fallen earlier this week, fighting raged yesterday on Zlitan's eastern fringes. A handful of loud explosions were accompanied by the whine of jet engines on Nato aircraft.

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However the main impediment to the fall of the town is the hatred of local tribes towards Misuratans. The proximity of the two towns belies a deep-rooted antipathy.

Many local families are the descendants of slaves captured by the pirates that operated from Misurata in the 19th century.

"I have no friends or acquaintances from Misurata, I know nobody from there," said Khalifa Misha, a schools inspector. "They have no right to come here. We will resist this conquest until the last drop of blood."

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Op zaterdag 6 augustus 2011 17:46 schreef Weltschmerz het volgende:

Dan dreigde daar dus ook een genocide, aangezien de NATO bommen gooit.

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However the main impediment to the fall of the town is the hatred of local tribes towards Misuratans. The proximity of the two towns belies a deep-rooted antipathy.

Many local families are the descendants of slaves captured by the pirates that operated from Misurata in the 19th century.

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Exclusive: Full Text of Gaddafi Email to PR Firms

http://www.algemeiner.com(...)fi-email-to-pr-firms
The Algemeiner has exclusively obtained the full text of an email sent by a Libyan official to worldwide Public Relations firms. The request serves as the latest in a number of measures taken by Libyan officials in an effort to influence public opinion in favor of Gaddafi and his continued hold on power in Libya.

Subject: Mission for Peace

Dear Sir/madam

My Name is Ali and I work for the “” at the Ministry of Information in Libya.

We are seeking to employ your PR company to present our just and fair case to the world. Libya has been under an unjustified media and PR attack which led to NATO’s military involvement since the 19th of March. We also face an armed rebellion that has been causing violence, terror and destruction in many parts of the country.

We have good moral, political and legal logic supporting our position as the legitimate, sovereign and popular government of Libya. We also have proofs in written, audio and video forms to take our case forward.

The African Union, Libya’s essential geopolitical space, has been supporting our effort to establish peace and security for all Libyans, so have important political figures from around the globe.

If we reach an agreement we will make sure it will be for the good of all Libyans and in accordance with the UN resolutions on Libya. We can formalise any deal with your organisation through a third party to help move things forward fast.

In particular, we need you to help us:

- Improve the image of the Libyan government in your country.

- Open direct communication channels to members of Parliament, party leaders and members of government.

- Create effective communication platforms for the members and leaders of the Libyan government.

- Assist the Libyan government to define their political and strategic mission and to transmit the statements in appropriate wording.

- Organize or assist in daily media briefings and/or formal media conferences.

- Organize off-the-record and on-the-record one-on-one meetings with opinion leaders of your national media.

-Take all measures to enhance the credibility of Libyan government and their representatives.

- Create a counter balance to the PR and media activities of rebels and the allied forces.

- Avoid action which is damaging to the image of the Libyan government.

- Day by day trouble shooting in media and PR sectors.

- Assist the Libyan government in managing contacts on the international political level.

-A wide range of publications, from2 to 4 page briefings all the way through to 250-page books.

- Commissioning a range of academic studies.

- Identifying and influencing existing and up-and-coming politicians,

Opinion makers and academics that have shown a non-interventionist approach.

- comprehensive constantly updated websites.

- A range of international conferences and speeches.

- Round-table meetings.

- Comprehensive media outreach identifying as many newspapers and journalists as possible.

We are off course open to your ideas and proposals.

Thank you

Ali Darwish

Mission for Peace

Ministry of Information

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Op zaterdag 6 augustus 2011 20:08 schreef svann het volgende:

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Ik denk niet dat de NATO die bommen op woonwijken plempt.
Doorgaans bombarderen ze specifieke gebouwen waarvan bekend is dat ze door het leger worden gebruikt.

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Dat is dan lekker gecultiveerd als iets van ruim honderd jaar geleden nu nog in die mate speelt. Verdeel en heers.
Maar dat zal niet voor iedereen gelden.
De rebellen hebben ook sympathisanten in Zlitan. Zolang een sterk legeronderdeel (van Khamis) de stad onder controle heeft, zullen die weinig zin hebben daar openlijk voor uit te komen.