Kerncentrales Japan #29

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Op woensdag 29 juni 2011 13:51 schreef outcast_within het volgende:
En ik hoopte dat de kick een informatieve update was. Is het weer een anti kern energie zealot die overal zijn mening staat te preken.

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Op woensdag 29 juni 2011 13:51 schreef outcast_within het volgende:
En ik hoopte dat de kick een informatieve update was. Is het weer een anti kern energie zealot die overal zijn mening staat te preken.

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A prominent Liberal Democrat has called for Chris Huhne to resign immediately as energy and climate change secretary after emails were released detailing his officials' efforts to co-ordinate a PR response to the Fukushima disaster with the nuclear industry. Civil servants in the energy and business departments were apparently trying to minimise the impact of the disaster on public support for nuclear power.
http://www.guardian.co.uk(...)ima-emails-criticism

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A British official wrote: “We need to ensure the anti-nuclear chaps and chapesses do not gain ground on this. We need to occupy the territory and hold it. We really need to show the safety of nuclear.”
http://enenews.com/leaked(...)usion-truly-shocking

http://www.guardian.co.uk(...)-play-down-fukushima

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Fukushima residents' urine now radioactive

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110627a2.html

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Op zaterdag 2 juli 2011 10:30 schreef Resonancer het volgende:
Overigens zijn er wel degelijk updates hoor, maar ook hier op fok lijkt men er klaar mee te zijn.

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Op zaterdag 2 juli 2011 10:34 schreef gebrokenglas het volgende:

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The figures did not exceed the maximum of 20 millisieverts a year, but we want residents to use these results to make decisions (to move)," said Kamada.

Ook weer zoiets: pissen die mensen inmiddels radioactiviteit, gaat het nog steeds over 'zoveel mSv per jaar' enzo.....

Dat was toch het verschil: of je straling buiten het lichaam hebt of in het lichaam? Dat laatste is echt desastreus.

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The cesium deception: Why the mainstream media is mostly reporting iodine levels, not radioactive cesium

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.co(...)m.html#ixzz1QwIKMnil

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98.6% of time, air contamination around Fukushima plant is not measured — TEPCO says it lacks qualified personnel to “change the filters”

The CRIIRAD wondered how it is be possible when a small NGO such as the CRIIRAD is able to run 5 air monitoring stations in France, that TEPCO could not afford one.

http://enenews.com/986-ti(...)onnel-change-filters

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Op zaterdag 2 juli 2011 11:18 schreef Darklight het volgende:
In Amerika zijn er ook 2 in de problemen, 1 staat onder water, een andere wordt bedreigd door vuur

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Op zaterdag 2 juli 2011 11:27 schreef gebrokenglas het volgende:

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Heb je een bron? Heb er nog niets van gehoord.

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Op zaterdag 2 juli 2011 11:27 schreef gebrokenglas het volgende:

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Heb je een bron? Heb er nog niets van gehoord.

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Op zaterdag 2 juli 2011 11:36 schreef Resonancer het volgende:

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2 kerncentrales in Amerika bedreigd door overstromingen?

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Op zaterdag 2 juli 2011 15:09 schreef gebrokenglas het volgende:

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oeioei... Weer typisch dit he. Amerika heeft de mond vol over slechte berichtgeving uit Japan, en zie hier eens, ellende in eigen land lekker doodzwijgen....

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A shocking report prepared by Russia’s Federal Atomic Energy Agency (FAAE) on information provided to them by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) states that the Obama regime has ordered a “total and complete” news blackout relating to any information regarding the near catastrophic meltdown of the Fort Calhoun Nuclear Power Plant [photo top left] located in Nebraska.
http://www.myweathertech.(...)raska-nuclear-plant/

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Workers at the Grand Gulf Nuclear Plant in Port Gibson, Miss., last Thursday released a large amount of radioactive tritium directly into the Mississippi River, according to the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC),
http://dcoda.amplify.com/(...)o-mississippi-river/

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"Freelance journalists and foreign media are pursuing the facts, even going into the radiation exclusion zone. However, surprisingly, the Japan government continues to prevent freelance journalists and overseas media from gaining access to official press conferences at the prime minister's house and government."
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/05/09-6

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In the US and Japan, where the nuclear industry is a powerful lobby group, perhaps it is understandable that the nuclear industry have managed to suppress information about this devastating crisis. But here in Australia, where we have no nuclear power industry? The reality is that Australia, with its huge natural reserves of uranium and strong mining industry, is deeply entrenched in the nuclear cabal.
http://www.independentaus(...)itable-media-silent/

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There is one particularly telling example of the media shielding TEPCO by suppressing information. This concerns "plutonium". According to Uesugi, after the reactor blew up on March 14, there was concern about the leakage of plutonium. However, astonishingly, until two weeks later when Uesugi asked, not a single media representative had raised the question of plutonium at TEPCO's press conferences.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/05/09-6

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BORSSELE - De kerncentrale Borssele gaat over enkele jaren splijtstof gebruiken waarin plutonium is verwerkt.
http://www.pzc.nl/regio/z(...)tonium-gebruiken.ece

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Op maandag 4 juli 2011 06:45 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:
Fukushima Cover Up Unravels

Former Minister for Internal Affairs Haraguchi Kazuhiro has alleged that radiation monitoring station data was actually three decimal places greater than the numbers released to the public. If this is true, it constitutes a “national crime”, in Nishio’s words. He follows with, "Giving us the truth once is much more important than saying ‘hang in there Japan!’ a million times."

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Revealed: British government's plan to play down Fukushima

"This has the potential to set the nuclear industry back globally," wrote one official at the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills (BIS), whose name has been redacted. "We need to ensure the anti-nuclear chaps and chapesses do not gain ground on this. We need to occupy the territory and hold it. We really need to show the safety of nuclear."

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French nuclear power plant explosion heightens safety fears
An explosion sparked a fire at a French nuclear power station on Saturday just two days after the authorities found 32 safety concerns at the plant.

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Jan Beranek, part of Greenpeace team investigating Fukushima fallout

Hotspots up to 500-700 times what is normal.
This is just unbelievable, at those levels of exposure this is certainly risking the health and lives of people.
Soviets decided to evacuate everyone that was living in areas where radiation was 3-4 times lower than what is found in Fukushima City.

Daily life in Fukushima: 'It was like visiting another universe'

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Tokyo tea leaves with 2,700 becquerels/kg of radioactive cesium — Picked by elementary school children
http://ex-skf.blogspot.co(...)esium-from-teas.html

New Analysis of Unit 3 Fuel Pool Video Reveals Top of Fuel Bundle

Fukushima Day 111- Radioactive urine NOW in children meanwhile USA receives STEADY FLOW of Radiation

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Radioactive waste was dumped in trenches along six acres above town of Los Alamos — Dept. of Energy official says radiation threat is ‘pretty limited’

Approximately 18 million cubic feet of radioactive and chemical solid wastes onsite were disposed of since 1943. “All of the radioactive waste and most of the chemical waste have been buried on the mesas of Pajarito Plateau where LANL is located. Radioactive liquid wastes were discharged to the canyons, initially with little treatment.”
http://georgewashington2.(...)ed-in-open-pits.html

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Op maandag 4 juli 2011 23:56 schreef THEFXR het volgende:
en weer mainstream: http://www.geenstijl.nl/m(...)JxBx+%28GeenStijl%29

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Fukushima residents dump radiated soil in absence of plan.

FUKUSHIMA, Japan (Reuters) - They scoop up soil from their gardens and dump it in holes dug out in parks and nearby forests, scrub their roofs with soap and refuse to let their children play outside.

http://af.reuters.com/art(...)andChannel=0&sp=true

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Japan groups alarmed by radioactive soil

The survey of four locations in Fukushima city, outside the nuclear evacuation zone, showed that all soil samples contained caesium exceeding Japan's legal limit of 10,000 becquerels per kilogram (4,500 per pound), they said.

The highest level was 46,540 becquerels per kilogram, and the three other readings were between 16,290 and 19,220 becquerels per kilogram, they said.

Yamauchi said in a statement. “Children are playing with the soil, meaning they are playing with high levels of radioactive substances. Evacuation must be conducted as soon as possible.”

http://www.google.com/hos(...)0725ee1bfd4cfbde.111

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45% of kids in Fukushima survey had thyroid exposure to radiation

Among children who tested positive for thyroid exposure, the amounts measured 0.04 microsieverts per hour or less in most cases. The largest exposure was 0.1 microsieverts per hour, equivalent to a yearly dose of 50 millisieverts for a 1-year-old.

None of those surveyed was exposed to over 0.2 microsieverts per hour, the government's benchmark for conducting more detailed examinations, according to the officials.
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110705p2g00m0dm079000c.html

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Op dinsdag 5 juli 2011 20:09 schreef Resonancer het volgende:

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None of those surveyed was exposed to over 0.2 microsieverts per hour, the government's benchmark for conducting more detailed examinations, according to the officials.

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Op dinsdag 5 juli 2011 20:31 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:

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Er is dus vooraf al een belang om geen hoge waardes te vinden. Geen hoge waardes = geen verder onderzoek. Nee dat is echt een geweldige manier om objectief onderzoek te garanderen.

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Op woensdag 29 juni 2011 13:32 schreef VirtualMemory het volgende:
Kernenergie blijkt wel heel duur te zijn indien het ook echt veilig moet worden. In de huidige wereld is niet meer zo heel erg veel behoefte aan nog meer splijtproducten voor de wapenindustrie. We kunnen kernsplijting beter afschaffen en inzetten op de gratis kernenergie die overdag gratis word afgeleverd

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Op dinsdag 5 juli 2011 21:53 schreef RemcoDelft het volgende:

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"Echt veilig" bestaat niet. Kernenergie is nog steeds de veiligste energiebron, en ja, per TWh vallen er minder doden dan door PV...

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Op dinsdag 5 juli 2011 21:53 schreef RemcoDelft het volgende:

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"Echt veilig" bestaat niet. Kernenergie is nog steeds de veiligste energiebron, en ja, per TWh vallen er minder doden dan door PV...

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Op dinsdag 5 juli 2011 23:18 schreef THEFXR het volgende:

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Dit soort gekken zullen altijd blijven bestaan!

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Fossil fuels kill 20,000 people a year in the US, that's a well established fact. It also kills around 100,000 people in China from mining coal, they don't even publish how many people die from smog but my guess is that it's way, way above the comparative 60,000 people who would die if they had US air quality laws.

The World Health Organisation figures put the death toll at 3 million people a year for air pollution due to vehicles, power plants and industry. Another 1.6 million people die a year from burning solid fossil fuel (coal) in their homes for heat. So 4.6 million people die from fossil fuels a year.

The death toll reported by Greenpeace, which has been criticised for being too high, since Chernobyl places the total deaths at around 200,000 in Ukrane, Belarus and Russia. However, going by official figures the total is only 4,000 people.

I'm sorry, but it's complete bullshit to say "show me the numbers" like the evidence hasn't existed for decades. More people die yearly in the US from -SAFE- burning of fossil fuels than have died from the worlds -WORST- nuclear -DISASTER-.

In fact, to compare the yearly death rate of nuclear reactors to coal reactors. Well 100 million people have died since chernobyl happened from fossil fuel pollutions and those are figures from the WHO, and 4,000 people have died from chernobyl that's 25,000:1 ratio in favour of nuclear power. -HOWEVER-, I'll be kind and I'll use unofficial figures from Greenpeace, and oh it's still 500:1 ratio in favour of nuclear power.

At its worst nuclear power is 500 times SAFER than fossil fuels, and official figures make it 25,000 times safer than fossil fuels. Those are the figures!

In fact, the World Nuclear Assosiation did a study on the safety of nuclear reactors and compared death rates between, Coal, Natural gas, Hydro and Nuclear plants. Nuclear had 31 fatalities between 1970 and 1992 in the US and UK, however Coal had 6,400 fatalities between the same dates. Those are people just doing their jobs.

So those are the numbers. The official ones clearly show that nuclear power is by far the safest energy source in the world.

Also the big horrendus disaster (how the media portrays it at least) at Three Mile Island, injured no one who didn't work at the plant. In fact, everybody in the 10 mile radius of the plant was exposed to the equivalent amount of radiation as a chest x-ray. That doesn't even go near how much damage a CT scan does to the human body, and you can have several of those a year without even having an insignificant (yes insignificant) chance of cancer.

Oh, before I forget. Coal plants release around 100 times the amount of radiation per watt than a nuclear plant does. The radioactive dust released from Three Mile Island was essentially insignificant, as said people in 10 miles only recieved a chest X-ray, however coal plants release 155 times that a year when operating safely compared to a major nuclear accident.

I'm so amused by those figures. Nuclear accidents are catagorically far safer than coal plants that operate safely!

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Japan says plant clean-up will take decades

TOKYO — Japan's prime minister said on Saturday the decommissioning of the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant would take decades, in the first government announcement of a long-term timeframe for the clean-up.

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Op dinsdag 5 juli 2011 23:18 schreef THEFXR het volgende:

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Dit soort gekken zullen altijd blijven bestaan!

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Op zondag 10 juli 2011 10:04 schreef gebrokenglas het volgende:
Nucleaire energie vs energie verkregen uit fossiele brandstoffen is denk ik te vergelijken met auto's vs vliegtuigen.
Vliegtuigen zijn veiliger dan auto's, maar als er een ramp gebeurt, treft het direct een hele zwik mensen.
Nucleaire energie is veiliger, maar bij een ramp is het effect direct enorm.

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Op zondag 10 juli 2011 11:29 schreef RemcoDelft het volgende:
Precies. De perceptie van de gemiddelde mens is totaal niet gebaseerd op feiten.

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Op zondag 10 juli 2011 12:06 schreef Resonancer het volgende:

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Feit is dat de gevolgen van Tsjernobiel niet goed zijn onderzocht en het nu nog te voorbarig is om daar harde uitspraken over te doen.
Het eerder genoemde getal van 4000 doden vind ik na alles wat ik erover gelezen heb absurd laag.

Feit; Voedsel in Oekraine is nog steeds radioactief en dat is het over 1000 jr nog. Maar onderzoek....neuh...

http://www.greenpeace.nl/(...)-steeds-radioactief/

En op dat gebrekkige onderzoek wil jij je mening baseren ?

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In fact, the World Nuclear Assosiation did a study on the safety of nuclear reactors and compared death rates between, Coal, Natural gas, Hydro and Nuclear plants

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Op zondag 10 juli 2011 12:36 schreef Basp1 het volgende:

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maar remco durf je een organisatie wiens primaire taak het is om nucliare energy meer te laten toepassen dan wel objectief te noemen en dat onderzoek dan wel voor lief aan te nemen. Waarbij het opvallend genoemd mag worden dat de indirect gevallen doden voor de fossiele brandstoffen tot in het absurde word meegerekend maar de indirecte doden van de nuclaire industrie zoveel mogelijk vergeten worden. Over selectieve onderzoeken gesproken.

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Op zondag 10 juli 2011 18:11 schreef gebrokenglas het volgende:
Klopt. Maar toch hebben we maar een handvol nucleaire rampen gehad waarbij straling vrijkwam. Die Russische testen met bommen enzo even niet meegerekend.
Hier een mooie lijst: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_and_radiation_accidents

Tsjernobyl en deze Fukushima zijn de klappers.

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July 9, 2011 by The Japan Times

For example, Hiroaki Koide, a polemic antinuclear scholar at Kyoto University, claims exposure of 1 millisievert per year increases the risk of dying from cancer by one for every 10,000 people exposed to radiation at that level.
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/07/09-1

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July 10, 2011

The 11 cows all showed high levels of radioactive caesium, ranging from 1,530 to 3,200 becquerel per kilogram, compared with the legal limit of 500 becquerel, the Tokyo statement said.
http://gulftoday.ae/porta(...)bb-13642cf613ff.aspx

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Wednesday, June 15, 2011
#Radiation in Japan: Nosebleed, Diarrhea, Lack of Energy in Children in Koriyama City, Fukushima

Once a malicious "baseless rumor" on the net, now it is written up in a regional newspaper with readership in Tokyo and Kanto area.

Tokyo Shinbun (paper edition only, 6/16/2011) reports that many children in Koriyama City in Fukushima Prefecture, 50 kilometers from Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant, are suffering inexplicable nosebleed, diarrhea, and lack of energy since the nuke plant accident.
http://ex-skf.blogspot.co(...)ebleed-diarrhea.html

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April 25, 2011

RADnet began monitoring for Plutonium from Day 1…Plutonium was found from Alaska. to San Francisco California. and down into Guam from 03/18/2011.
This data was not released to the public for a good reason! They don’t want you to know that the air we are breathing right now is TOXIC!

http://usahitman.com/radioactive-fallout-everywhere/

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Tepco Rushes to Cover Fukushima Nuclear Plant as Typhoon Ma-On Nears Japan

Tokyo Electric Power Co. is rushing to install a cover over a building at its crippled Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear plant to shield it from wind and rain as Typhoon Ma-on approaches Japan’s coast from the south.

Work on the cover for the turbine building of the No. 3 reactor started at about 8:30 a.m. today, Junichi Matsumoto, a general manager at the utility known as Tepco, said at briefing in Tokyo. The transfer of tainted water for storage in a barge docked next to the plant was halted, spokesman Satoshi Watanabe said by telephone.

The eye of Ma-on, which is categorized as “extremely strong,” was about 420 kilometers (260 miles) southeast of the city of Kagoshima at 4 p.m. today, or 1,200 kilometers from the Fukushima plant, according to the website of the Japan Meteorological Agency.

The storm was moving north at 25 kilometers per hour with winds blowing at 157 kph. Ma-on is forecast to continuing heading north and may cross coast of the southwestern island of Kyushu after 6 a.m. tomorrow. A forecast track from the U.S. Navy Joint Typhoon Warning Center indicates the storm may pass over the Fukushima plant by July 21.

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Op zondag 10 juli 2011 11:29 schreef RemcoDelft het volgende:

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Jouw gebrek aan kennis zegt uitsluitend iets over jouzelf, niet over iemand anders. Jammer dat je je dat niet realiseert.

Voor wie serieus geinteresseerd is: Google eens op "number of deaths per terawatt-hour". De getallen die je vindt varieren een klein beetje, maar het komt hier op neer:
http://nextbigfuture.com/(...)y-energy-source.html :
Energy Source Death Rate (deaths per TWh)
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Precies. De perceptie van de gemiddelde mens is totaal niet gebaseerd op feiten.
Over risicoperceptie zijn diverse onderzoeken gepubliceerd, over het algemeen komt het neer op zo'n plaatje:
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How a Geothermal Plant Works

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Op dinsdag 19 juli 2011 08:45 schreef niels0 het volgende:
Zelf pleit ik trouwens voor geothermal power (aardwarmte). Het is 10 tot 20 maal schoner dan olie-/gas-centrales, het is duurzaam, het is er altijd (anders dan wind- en solar-) zodat het geschikt is voor zowel basis- als piek-last, het is goedkoop (ook goedkoper dan nucleaire energie) en de prijs fluctueerd ook niet zoals dat bij olie/gas wel het geval is.

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Op dinsdag 19 juli 2011 09:35 schreef RemcoDelft het volgende:

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Aardwarmte is lang niet overal goedkoop... Op de plaatsen waar het goedkoop te benutten is, is het al aardig in gebruik. IJsland bijvoorbeeld. Maar voor Nederland komt er heel wat bij zo'n installatie kijken.

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Op dinsdag 19 juli 2011 09:49 schreef niels0 het volgende:

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Ik zat ook te denken aan IJsland omdat je daar niet zo diep hoeft te boren.
Kwestie van een HVDC-kabel leggen. Zoiets als de NorNed-kabel. Daar wordt het wel wat duurder mee (700MW-kabel van IJsland via Faroe kost iets van 1 a 1.5 miljard euro maar is zeer duurzaam). BritNed-kabel ligt er al (net opgeleverd, 1200MW) daar zit nog wel wat capaciteit op.