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Van Rompuy lijkt dus als Belgische kandidaat weer op een Brits veto te zullen stuiten. Vooral dat artikel in The Daily Telegraph is gewoon hilarisch.
Er wordt de laatste dagen trouwens meer en meer gepleit voor een vrouw.
Er wordt de laatste dagen trouwens meer en meer gepleit voor een vrouw.
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Wat weer ongelooflijk seksistisch is.quote:Op dinsdag 17 november 2009 18:29 schreef Heero87 het volgende:
Van Rompuy lijkt dus als Belgische kandidaat weer op een Brits veto te zullen stuiten. Vooral dat artikel in The Daily Telegraph is gewoon hilarisch.
Er wordt de laatste dagen trouwens meer en meer gepleit voor een vrouw.
Stel dat er geen hypothetische veronderstellingen bestaan.
Is dit een schijnvraag waarin het antwoord al besloten ligt?
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Is dit een schijnvraag waarin het antwoord al besloten ligt?
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Blijkbaar zou Sarkozy Balkenende niet zien zitten omdat hij onvoldoende Frans spreekt.quote:Op dinsdag 17 november 2009 18:14 schreef kanaiken het volgende:
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Aanvankelijk was Balkenende door Merkel naar voren geschoven. Dat is de reden dat hij voor het eerst werd genoemd.
Dat zijn blijkbaar de criteria die vandaag de dag gehanteerd worden. De ene mag niet omdat hij geen Frans spreekt, de andere (Van Rompuy) omdat zijn partij ooit een manifest goedkeurde waarin gepleit werd om de Europese vlag wat vaker te laten wapperen.
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Leuke headlines worden dat:quote:
"EU President veroordeeld in corruptieschandaal."
Stel dat er geen hypothetische veronderstellingen bestaan.
Is dit een schijnvraag waarin het antwoord al besloten ligt?
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Is dit een schijnvraag waarin het antwoord al besloten ligt?
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Ach, ik kan de vraag om eens een vrouw te noemen wel begrijpen. De parlementsvoorzitter, de Commissievoorzitter, het gros van de Commissieleden: allemaal mannen. Als de president en de hoge vertegenwoordiger ook nog eens mannen worden, wordt het wel heel gortig.quote:Op dinsdag 17 november 2009 18:32 schreef kanaiken het volgende:
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Wat weer ongelooflijk seksistisch is.
Maar goed, dan moeten er ook wel geschikte kandidaten zijn..
Nouja, in verband met Italië pleit voor oprichting EU-legerquote:Op dinsdag 17 november 2009 18:34 schreef kanaiken het volgende:
Leuke headlines worden dat:
"EU President veroordeeld in corruptieschandaal."
Dat niet alleen. Op de functie moet de MEEST geschikte kandidaat komen.quote:Op dinsdag 17 november 2009 18:35 schreef Heero87 het volgende:
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Ach, ik kan de vraag om eens een vrouw te noemen wel begrijpen. De parlementsvoorzitter, de Commissievoorzitter, het gros van de Commissieleden: allemaal mannen. Als de president en de hoge vertegenwoordiger ook nog eens mannen worden, wordt het wel heel gortig.
Maar goed, dan moeten er ook wel geschikte kandidaten zijn..
En dan moet je niet gaan selecteren op irrelevante eigenschappen.
Als dat nou toevallig een mannelijke, oudere, blanke, heterosexuele, atheistische/gematigd christelijke kandidaat is, hoeft daar geen vies gezicht bij getrokken te worden.
Stel dat er geen hypothetische veronderstellingen bestaan.
Is dit een schijnvraag waarin het antwoord al besloten ligt?
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Verder niet relevant, maar ik kan me wel vinden in dat voorstel.quote:Op dinsdag 17 november 2009 18:36 schreef DennisMoore het volgende:
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Nouja, in verband met Italië pleit voor oprichting EU-leger
De eerste comments wijzen erop dat ik een minderheid vorm.
Stel dat er geen hypothetische veronderstellingen bestaan.
Is dit een schijnvraag waarin het antwoord al besloten ligt?
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Mary Robinson lijkt mij een prima kandidaat.quote:Op dinsdag 17 november 2009 18:29 schreef Heero87 het volgende:
Van Rompuy lijkt dus als Belgische kandidaat weer op een Brits veto te zullen stuiten. Vooral dat artikel in The Daily Telegraph is gewoon hilarisch.
Er wordt de laatste dagen trouwens meer en meer gepleit voor een vrouw.
Yankee go home!
Leefde Pipo de Clown nog maar, past goed in het beeld van wat ik heb van de EU en zijn voorzitter.
nothing will change without a rebel
En Vaira Vīķe-Freiberga wordt niet voor niets vaak genoemd als mogelijke kandidaat.quote:Op dinsdag 17 november 2009 18:54 schreef remlof het volgende:
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Mary Robinson lijkt mij een prima kandidaat.
Gelukkig is Balkenendes Engels, Duits enz. ook verschrikkelijk, dus de Fransen hoeven zich niet achtergesteld te voelen.quote:Op dinsdag 17 november 2009 18:32 schreef Heero87 het volgende:
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Blijkbaar zou Sarkozy Balkenende niet zien zitten omdat hij onvoldoende Frans spreekt.
Lying awake, wondering if there is a Dog...
Tijn won het Morlvision Songfestival 2023
Tijn won het Morlvision Songfestival 2023
BRITAIN RULED BY A BELGIAN? YOU MUST BE JOKING
Wednesday November 18,2009
By Macer Hall
A FURIOUS backlash was growing last night against the drive to anoint Euro fanatic Herman Van Rompuy as President of Europe.
The Belgian Prime Minister, who wants to impose sweeping Europe-wide taxes, is expected to be picked for the plum new job at a cosy dinner of the Brussels elite tomorrow.
But opponents of his crazed plans for building a European superstate and banning national flags and anthems were uniting yesterday after full details emerged of his ambitions for a massive new taxation offensive once he is installed in the £250,000-a-year post.
Gerard Batten, UKIP MEP for London, said angrily: “What is the point of Belgium? The only reason it would get the presidency is because by giving it to such a non-entity it is not going to upset anyone.
“They are adding insult to injury. It’s bad enough having the Lisbon Treaty rammed down our throats but a president from a nothing country telling us we shouldn’t exist? They are jackals biting the lion’s tail.”
Timothy Kirkhope, leader of the Conservatives in the European Parliament, said: “Most Belgian politicians seem to love high taxes even more than chocolate, beer and frites so it is no surprise Mr Van Rompuy wants new EU-wide taxes set by Brussels.
“If the EU were allowed to raise its own taxes it would be the master of the national governments, rather than servant. I want the EU to go cap in hand to national governments every few years for its money so individual member states can better control the process of funding.”
Anger was also brewing against Gordon Brown for failing to block the candidacy of Mr Van Rompuy. Critics are outraged the Prime Minister has been backing the candidacy of Tony Blair rather than ruthlessly defending Britain’s independence.
And they say his betrayal of the pledge to give voters a referendum on EU reform has led to the appointment of an unelected EU president.
Tory MP Philip Davies said: “Do Gordon Brown and the Labour Government have such little regard for our great country that they think we are only worthy of being governed by a Belgian autocrat? Had anyone at the time of Churchill or Thatcher advanced that theory, people would have laughed in their faces.” Eurosceptic think tank Open Europe described Mr Van Rompuy as a “classic EU federalist” who would “quietly drive EU integration forward”.
Director Lorraine Mullaly said: “The British Government should be dead against any such candidate. The EU president may not have the power to propose direct EU taxes, but that doesn’t matter, because the European Commission will do it for him.
“With him in the EU hot seat, the Commission will have a powerful friend in the council, a body that until now had only elected representatives of governments. All that changes with the Lisbon Treaty.”
UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage said: “Mr Rompuy’s comments just show the direction the Brussels elite wish to take things: one flag, one anthem, one tax rate, one army, one nation – Europe.” The details of a private speech by Mr Van Rompuy, 62, to leading politicians and business leaders emerged yesterday. Mr Van Rompuy spoke to a Brussels gathering of the so‑called Bilderberg group, an infrequent and private assembly of influential international political and business figures set up more than 50 years ago by former US diplomat Henry Kissinger.
He told them: “The possibility of financial levies at European level needs to be seriously reviewed and for the first time ever, the big countries in the Union are open to this.”
But Downing Street officials were yesterday trying to calm fears about an onslaught of taxation from the EU. One said: “It is not in the gift of the president of the European Council to make such proposals.”
Mr Van Rompuy is also known to be enthusiastic about creating a “European identity”. He spearheaded the drawing up of a federalist manifesto for his Flemish Christian Democrat Party in Belgium calling for a widening of EU power and influence.
It said: “Apart from the euro, other national symbols need to be replaced by European ones (licence plates, identity cards, more EU flags).”
Yet some Brussels insiders believe there is still a chance Mr Van Rompuy’s rise can be blocked. One said yesterday: “There is no firm agreement yet on one name. There is a lot of work to be done in the next 24 hours.”
A palatial new office block for the new EU President and his deputy, the Higher Representative for Foreign Affairs, is being built in Brussels at a cost of more than £280million.
The President is expected to get a huge entourage and fleet of chauffeured vehicles. He will also be entitled to lavish expenses and qualify for a pension for life equivalent to around 70 per cent of his huge salary.
Bron: Daily Express.
Wednesday November 18,2009
By Macer Hall
A FURIOUS backlash was growing last night against the drive to anoint Euro fanatic Herman Van Rompuy as President of Europe.
The Belgian Prime Minister, who wants to impose sweeping Europe-wide taxes, is expected to be picked for the plum new job at a cosy dinner of the Brussels elite tomorrow.
But opponents of his crazed plans for building a European superstate and banning national flags and anthems were uniting yesterday after full details emerged of his ambitions for a massive new taxation offensive once he is installed in the £250,000-a-year post.
Gerard Batten, UKIP MEP for London, said angrily: “What is the point of Belgium? The only reason it would get the presidency is because by giving it to such a non-entity it is not going to upset anyone.
“They are adding insult to injury. It’s bad enough having the Lisbon Treaty rammed down our throats but a president from a nothing country telling us we shouldn’t exist? They are jackals biting the lion’s tail.”
Timothy Kirkhope, leader of the Conservatives in the European Parliament, said: “Most Belgian politicians seem to love high taxes even more than chocolate, beer and frites so it is no surprise Mr Van Rompuy wants new EU-wide taxes set by Brussels.
“If the EU were allowed to raise its own taxes it would be the master of the national governments, rather than servant. I want the EU to go cap in hand to national governments every few years for its money so individual member states can better control the process of funding.”
Anger was also brewing against Gordon Brown for failing to block the candidacy of Mr Van Rompuy. Critics are outraged the Prime Minister has been backing the candidacy of Tony Blair rather than ruthlessly defending Britain’s independence.
And they say his betrayal of the pledge to give voters a referendum on EU reform has led to the appointment of an unelected EU president.
Tory MP Philip Davies said: “Do Gordon Brown and the Labour Government have such little regard for our great country that they think we are only worthy of being governed by a Belgian autocrat? Had anyone at the time of Churchill or Thatcher advanced that theory, people would have laughed in their faces.” Eurosceptic think tank Open Europe described Mr Van Rompuy as a “classic EU federalist” who would “quietly drive EU integration forward”.
Director Lorraine Mullaly said: “The British Government should be dead against any such candidate. The EU president may not have the power to propose direct EU taxes, but that doesn’t matter, because the European Commission will do it for him.
“With him in the EU hot seat, the Commission will have a powerful friend in the council, a body that until now had only elected representatives of governments. All that changes with the Lisbon Treaty.”
UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage said: “Mr Rompuy’s comments just show the direction the Brussels elite wish to take things: one flag, one anthem, one tax rate, one army, one nation – Europe.” The details of a private speech by Mr Van Rompuy, 62, to leading politicians and business leaders emerged yesterday. Mr Van Rompuy spoke to a Brussels gathering of the so‑called Bilderberg group, an infrequent and private assembly of influential international political and business figures set up more than 50 years ago by former US diplomat Henry Kissinger.
He told them: “The possibility of financial levies at European level needs to be seriously reviewed and for the first time ever, the big countries in the Union are open to this.”
But Downing Street officials were yesterday trying to calm fears about an onslaught of taxation from the EU. One said: “It is not in the gift of the president of the European Council to make such proposals.”
Mr Van Rompuy is also known to be enthusiastic about creating a “European identity”. He spearheaded the drawing up of a federalist manifesto for his Flemish Christian Democrat Party in Belgium calling for a widening of EU power and influence.
It said: “Apart from the euro, other national symbols need to be replaced by European ones (licence plates, identity cards, more EU flags).”
Yet some Brussels insiders believe there is still a chance Mr Van Rompuy’s rise can be blocked. One said yesterday: “There is no firm agreement yet on one name. There is a lot of work to be done in the next 24 hours.”
A palatial new office block for the new EU President and his deputy, the Higher Representative for Foreign Affairs, is being built in Brussels at a cost of more than £280million.
The President is expected to get a huge entourage and fleet of chauffeured vehicles. He will also be entitled to lavish expenses and qualify for a pension for life equivalent to around 70 per cent of his huge salary.
Bron: Daily Express.
De Duitsers lijken er een stuk minder moeite mee te hebben 'geregeerd te worden door een Belg': http://www.nu.nl/politiek(...)lijk-van-rompuy.html
topic: Shocking: Duitsland kiest openlijk voor Van Rompuy
topic: Shocking: Duitsland kiest openlijk voor Van Rompuy
Mary had a little lamb
Then Mary had dessert
Then Mary had dessert
Maar als dat het criterium is, is de keuze voor een Vlaming wel vreemdquote:Op dinsdag 17 november 2009 18:32 schreef Heero87 het volgende:
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Blijkbaar zou Sarkozy Balkenende niet zien zitten omdat hij onvoldoende Frans spreekt.
Honey ! Take me drunk, i am home !
Want Vlamingen krijgen pas vanaf hun tien jaar Frans op school?quote:Op woensdag 18 november 2009 11:09 schreef LangeTabbetje het volgende:
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Maar als dat het criterium is, is de keuze voor een Vlaming wel vreemd
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De Walen en de Vlamingen onderling beschuldigen elkaar continu van taalproblemen, maar de Fransen hebben helemaal geen problemen met Vlamingen. Behalve Luxemburgers en sommige Zwitsers zullen er weinig zijn die zo goed Frans kunnen als een Belg, al is het dan een Vlamingquote:Op woensdag 18 november 2009 11:09 schreef LangeTabbetje het volgende:
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Maar als dat het criterium is, is de keuze voor een Vlaming wel vreemd
Mary had a little lamb
Then Mary had dessert
Then Mary had dessert
Balkie zal het wel worden, niet voor niets dat hij vandaag out of the blue Neelie iemand van een andere politieke kleur dan hijzelf naar weer kandidaat stelt voor de functie van eurocommisaris.
Of zou het niet zo werken qua onderhandelingen over functies in Europa?
Of zou het niet zo werken qua onderhandelingen over functies in Europa?
Kleine geheimen dienen beschermd te worden.
Grote geheimen worden beschermd door publiek ongeloof.
Grote geheimen worden beschermd door publiek ongeloof.
The Daily Express blijft geweldig. .
BELGIAN PM HERMAN VAN ROMPUY CALLED CLOWN BY SISTER CHRISTINE
Potential EU president Herman Van Rompuy has been labelled a clown by sister Christine
Thursday November 19,2009
By Macer Hall and Alison Little
THE Belgian politician poised to become president of Europe was last night dismissed as a clown.
Herman Van Rompuy faced a massive surge of opposition as other leaders began the task of rubber-stamping his elevation to the powerful new job of leading the entire European Union.
But the 62-year-old poetry-writing prime minister of Belgium suffered fresh embarrassment when it emerged that even his own sister had ridiculed him.
Christine Van Rompuy – a member of a rival political party – helped to produce a poster showing her brother posing as a clown during a recent election.
The image showed Mr Van Rompuy sporting a red nose and a clown’s hat.
Ms Van Rompuy, who admitted the picture had caused some tension between them, added: “We have not spoken since.”
Yet despite the ridicule, Mr Van Rompuy appeared certain to clinch the £250,000-a-year job after it was confirmed that his main rival, former prime minister Tony Blair, was out of the race.
An angry campaign against Mr Van Rompuy – a fanatical federalist who wants sweeping tax raising powers – was gaining support yesterday.
Nigel Farage, leader of the UK Independence Party, said: “The list of famous Belgians will not be extended by his appointment. This is the man who will have more power than David Cameron or Gordon Brown and we are not given a say.
“All this proves one thing – the British people must have a referendum on whether we stay part of this union.”
And Labour MP Ian Davidson, a rare Eurosceptic on the Government benches, said: “I am appalled to hear that the apparent leading candidate has committed himself to Europe-wide taxation and is in favour of ever-closer union with Brussels.
“If we’d had a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty we would have been able to set Europe in a new direction, but it would appear this opportunity has been lost.”
Van Rompuy, a married father of three who was an economist and banker before starting a career in politics, is more famous in his own country for writing Japanese-style poems than any for political achievements.
He has frequently advocated turning Europe into a super-state, wants to abolish national symbols like flags and anthems, and is in favour of punitive tax-raising powers for the EU.
Even Belgians were yesterday applauding the Daily Express’s outspoken opposition to the bureaucrat’s rise.
Mick Willems contacted the newspaper to say: “Mr Van Rompuy is a nobody who hasn’t done anything since as prime minister – not that anyone knows of, at least.
“The Belgian people want to get rid of him, but we fear an even bigger idiot is going to take the seat of premier.”
Bron: The Daily Express.
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BELGIAN PM HERMAN VAN ROMPUY CALLED CLOWN BY SISTER CHRISTINE
Potential EU president Herman Van Rompuy has been labelled a clown by sister Christine
Thursday November 19,2009
By Macer Hall and Alison Little
THE Belgian politician poised to become president of Europe was last night dismissed as a clown.
Herman Van Rompuy faced a massive surge of opposition as other leaders began the task of rubber-stamping his elevation to the powerful new job of leading the entire European Union.
But the 62-year-old poetry-writing prime minister of Belgium suffered fresh embarrassment when it emerged that even his own sister had ridiculed him.
Christine Van Rompuy – a member of a rival political party – helped to produce a poster showing her brother posing as a clown during a recent election.
The image showed Mr Van Rompuy sporting a red nose and a clown’s hat.
Ms Van Rompuy, who admitted the picture had caused some tension between them, added: “We have not spoken since.”
Yet despite the ridicule, Mr Van Rompuy appeared certain to clinch the £250,000-a-year job after it was confirmed that his main rival, former prime minister Tony Blair, was out of the race.
An angry campaign against Mr Van Rompuy – a fanatical federalist who wants sweeping tax raising powers – was gaining support yesterday.
Nigel Farage, leader of the UK Independence Party, said: “The list of famous Belgians will not be extended by his appointment. This is the man who will have more power than David Cameron or Gordon Brown and we are not given a say.
“All this proves one thing – the British people must have a referendum on whether we stay part of this union.”
And Labour MP Ian Davidson, a rare Eurosceptic on the Government benches, said: “I am appalled to hear that the apparent leading candidate has committed himself to Europe-wide taxation and is in favour of ever-closer union with Brussels.
“If we’d had a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty we would have been able to set Europe in a new direction, but it would appear this opportunity has been lost.”
Van Rompuy, a married father of three who was an economist and banker before starting a career in politics, is more famous in his own country for writing Japanese-style poems than any for political achievements.
He has frequently advocated turning Europe into a super-state, wants to abolish national symbols like flags and anthems, and is in favour of punitive tax-raising powers for the EU.
Even Belgians were yesterday applauding the Daily Express’s outspoken opposition to the bureaucrat’s rise.
Mick Willems contacted the newspaper to say: “Mr Van Rompuy is a nobody who hasn’t done anything since as prime minister – not that anyone knows of, at least.
“The Belgian people want to get rid of him, but we fear an even bigger idiot is going to take the seat of premier.”
Bron: The Daily Express.
