Abortusarts George Tiller doodgeschoten bij Kerk

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Op zondag 31 mei 2009 22:33 schreef Provinciaal het volgende:

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Jup, plus dat je niet echt snugger overkomt.

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Op maandag 1 juni 2009 00:39 schreef isogram het volgende:

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Eng mannetje ben jij, om -smilie bij zo'n nieuwsbericht te zetten, met een bijbeltekst over bloedvergieten. Alsof mensen het recht hebben om zelf voor God te spelen.

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Op maandag 1 juni 2009 00:55 schreef Ghazi het volgende:
Waarschijnlijk zal deze 'arts' de hel ingeduwd worden voor het doden van onschuldige wezens.

Ook zijn aardse straf heeft hij niet ontlopen.

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Op zondag 31 mei 2009 19:06 schreef buachaille het volgende:
Wie bloed van mensen vergiet, diens bloed wordt door mensen vergoten, want God heeft de mens als zijn evenbeeld gemaakt.

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Wanneer twee mannen aan het vechten zijn en een van hen een zwangere vrouw raakt met als gevolg dat zij een miskraam krijgt, maar ze heeft verder geen letsel opgelopen, dan moet een boete worden geëist waarvan de hoogte door haar echtgenoot wordt vastgesteld; de rechters moeten op de betaling toezien. Heeft ze wel ander letsel opgelopen, dan geldt: een leven voor een leven,

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Op zondag 31 mei 2009 22:37 schreef Fortune_Cookie het volgende:
Doe mij nu gewoon een lol en google op die essentiele aminozuren. Die quote stelt veel maar onderbouwt nagenoeg niets.

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Eiwit

Sommige aminozuren kan het lichaam zelf maken. Andere moeten uit het eten komen. Deze aminozuren heten ‘essentiële aminozuren’.

Eiwit in eten
Vlees, vis en gevogelte zoals kip leveren veel eiwit, net als melk, kaas en eieren. Maar ook in plantaardig eten zit eiwit, denk aan brood, noten, bonen en linzen. Dierlijk eiwit bevat voldoende van alle essentiële aminozuren. Bij plantaardig eiwit verschilt dat per product. Alleen soja bevat voldoende van alle essentiële aminozuren. Daarom moeten vegetariërs en vooral veganisten erop letten welke producten met eiwit zij eten.

Meer dan genoeg
In Nederland krijgt iedereen genoeg eiwit binnen. Dat geldt ook voor vegetariërs en sporters.

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PS. Herbivoren met snijtanden?

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Op maandag 1 juni 2009 00:55 schreef Ghazi het volgende:
Waarschijnlijk zal deze 'arts' de hel ingeduwd worden voor het doden van onschuldige wezens.

Ook zijn aardse straf heeft hij niet ontlopen.

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Op maandag 1 juni 2009 00:55 schreef Ghazi het volgende:
Waarschijnlijk zal deze 'arts' de hel ingeduwd worden voor het doden van onschuldige wezens.

Ook zijn aardse straf heeft hij niet ontlopen.

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Op zondag 31 mei 2009 22:13 schreef Provinciaal het volgende:

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Echt? Er zijn genoeg mensen waarvan ik glimlachend het overlijdensbericht zou lezen vanwege wat ze gedaan hebben. En dan doel ik dus op moordenaars, verkrachters, dictators, terroristen, enzovoorts. Lijkt me ook verder niet uniek.

Is er dan werkelijk geen enkele daad die jij erg genoeg vindt om te dan te denken dat de dader dood mag? Dat zou ik knap vinden.

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Op zondag 31 mei 2009 21:57 schreef Provinciaal het volgende:

Mijn ideeën beschouw ik als logischer en rechtvaardiger dan die van bowlingbal omdat ze genuanceerder en geïnformeerder zijn, alhoewel misschien minder duidelijk en uitgesproken. Ze zijn niet direct gebaseerd op politieke of religieuze overwegingen, waar je bij bowlingbal in principe al zijn meningen bij voorbaat kan voorspellen aan de hand zijn politieke overtuigingen.

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Op maandag 1 juni 2009 13:05 schreef Monidique het volgende:

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Yep. Iedereen is gek, maar jij bent Serieus, Objectief en hebt een Weloverwogen mening. Hieruit volgt onvermijdelijk dat jij Gelijk hebt en de rest maar hersenloze "VMBO-ers" zijn.

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Op zondag 31 mei 2009 19:12 schreef buachaille het volgende:

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Ik heb geprobeerd een TS te maken waarin mijn eigen mening niet is verwoord

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hopelijk voor hem heeft hij op het laatste moment berouw gehad.

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Abortion is a crime against nature - violence against the Holy Spirit, whether it is with or without permission of the state doesn't matter. Even if the whole world votes and approves abortion, it is still violence against the Holy Spirit. Those doctors that perform abortion find themselves in the Seventh Sphere as demons, because only a demon could think that abortion is good.

That demon is a vampire or hyena inside of us.

Dante found a very infra-red, bloody red color in that dimension. When you examine with your clairvoyance that ego of violence against nature, you find that it has a very bloody red color in its aura, because it is in relation to violence against the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit circulates in the blood, and that is why that ego fills itself with blood, with the Holy Spirit.

This is why vampires are related with blood.

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My thoughts are with the family of Dr. George Tiller, who was killed today.

I'm not sure how many doctors still perform late-term abortions in this country -- one and two seem to be the most common estimates. This is, of course, due to the campaign of terrorism that has been waged against them. I cannot imagine the courage it takes to go on doing what you think is right in the face not only of consistent harassment and death threats, but of actual attempts on your life.

Why go on doing it? Here's one reason:

"Sometime early in the 8th month my wife, an RN who at the time was working in an infertility clinic asked the Dr. she was working for what he thought of her discomfort. He examined her and said that he couldn't be certain but thought that she might be having twins. We were thrilled and couldn't wait to get a new sonogram that hopefully would confirm his thoughts. Two days later our joy was turned to unspeakable sadness when the new sonogram showed conjoined twins. Conjoined twins alone is not what was so difficult but the way they were joined meant that at best only one child would survive the surgery to separate them and the survivor would more than likely live a brief and painful life filled with surgery and organ transplants. We were advised that our options were to deliver into the world a child who's life would be filled with horrible pain and suffering or fly out to Wichita Kansas and to terminate the pregnancy under the direction of Dr. George Tiller.

We made an informed decision to go to Kansas. One can only imagine the pain borne by a woman who happily carries a child for 8 months only to find out near the end of term that the children were not to be and that she had to make the decision to terminate the pregnancy and go against everything she had been taught to believe was right. This was what my wife had to do. Dr. Tiller is a true American hero. The nightmare of our decision and the aftermath was only made bearable by the warmth and compassion of Dr. Tiller and his remarkable staff. Dr. Tiller understood that this decision was the most difficult thing that a woman could ever decide and he took the time to educate us and guide us along with the other two couples who at the time were being forced to make the same decision after discovering that they too were carrying children impacted by horrible fetal anomalies. I could describe in great detail the procedures and the pain and suffering that everyone is subjected to in these situations. However, that is not the point of the post. We can all imagine that this is not something that we would wish on anyone. The point is that the pain and suffering were only mitigated by the compassion and competence of Dr. George Tiller and his staff. We are all diminished today for a host of reasons but most of all because a man of great compassion and courage has been lost to the world."

Here's another:

"A routine ultrasound on October 26--meant to be a time of great joy (my best friend came with us to the appointment--revealed terrible news: one of the twins had died, probably about a week before. We went from the ultrasound appointment to my obstetrician's office and were met with even more grim news. My weight had spiked up about 18 pounds, my blood pressure was soaring, and I had protein in my urine.

It turned out that I was in full-blown preeclampsia. I was admitted to the hospital immediately.

After that, everything happened very quickly. I was put on medication (magnesium sulfate) in an attempt to treat the preeclampsia and save the remaining twin until he reached outside-the-womb viability--a mere two weeks away (I was just over 22 weeks pregnant). But I got much worse overnight; my blood pressure couldn't be controlled, I had a massive headache and was vomiting uncontrollably. My kidneys shut down. I was moments away from seizures, coma, and death when the doctors came and told us the bad news: my remaining twin could not be saved. My pregnancy had to be terminated or both the baby and I would die.

You might, Mr. Obama and Mr. McCain, be able to imagine what it felt like to be my husband--to imagine being terrified of losing your children and your wife in one fell swoop. Ms. Clinton, you might be able to imagine lying in the hospital, so sick you barely feel any of what is happening, only knowing that the long-fought-for children you so desperately wanted are now both going to be dead.

Here's the part of the story where choice comes in. I could, of course, have gone through induced labor and delivered my tiny twins. But my blood pressure was hovering around 165/120 (often going higher), even with treatment. Can you imagine what labor would have done to my body with blood pressure that high? My doctor recommended, and I agreed, that I undergo the much less stressful intact dilation and extraction procedure--what the "pro-life" forces often like to call a "partial birth abortion." (...)

As I lay on the gurney, waiting for my procedure to start, I felt a gulf of grief and emptiness the like of which I have never known. I felt abandoned by God. I lay there, crying, alone, surrounded by doctors and nurses. You can't imagine the sadness.

I was lucky. Are you surprised that I would say that? I was lucky because the partial-birth abortion ban was not yet in effect in October of 2004. If it had been, I would have been forced to undergo labor and delivery, no matter the risks to my health, and I might right now be either dead or so brain damaged I would be unable to type this."

And this:

"I also know a woman who had two "partial-birth abortions," or D&Xs (dilation and extraction) as they are more accurately called. My friend Tiffany is a carrier of a terrible genetic abnormality. In addition to other defects, her babies developed with no faces, with no way to eat or breathe. They were doomed. The only way to extract them without hurting her chances of ever having another baby was through a D&X."

And this essay that I will never forget, about a woman whose child died in her womb, and who couldn't find anyone to do a dilation and evacuation, the safest procedure for someone in her condition, because it was too controversial:

"I could feel my baby's dead body inside of mine. This baby had thrilled me with kicks and flutters, those first soft tickles of life bringing a smile to my face and my hand to my rounding belly. Now this baby floated, limp and heavy, from one side to the other, as I rolled in my bed.

And within a day, I started to bleed. My body, with or without a doctor's help, was starting to expel the fetus. Technically, I was threatening a spontaneous abortion, the least safe of the available options.

I did what any pregnant patient would do. I called my doctor. And she advised me to wait. (...)

On my fourth morning, with the bleeding and cramping increasing, I couldn't wait any more. I called my doctor and was told that since I wasn't hemorrhaging, I should not come in. Her partner, on call, pedantically explained that women can safely lose a lot of blood, even during a routine period.

I began calling labor and delivery units at the top five medical centers in my area. I told them I had been 19 weeks along. The baby is dead. I'm bleeding, I said. I'm scheduled for a D&E in a few days. If I come in right now, what could you do for me, I asked.

Don't come in, they told me again and again. "Go to your emergency room if you are hemorrhaging to avoid bleeding to death. No one here can do a D&E today, and unless you're really in active labor you're safer to wait.""

Why didn't her own Ob/Gyn do the procedure?

"I can't do these myself," said my doctor. "I trained at a Catholic hospital."

George Tiller endured decades of terrorism to help women like these, women in unspeakably awful situations whom very few people were willing to help, given the price domestic terrorists had decided that anyone who helped them would have to pay. Now he has given his life.

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Since 2005, Bill O’Reilly has waged jihad against Dr. George Tiller, dedicating 29 segments of his show to demonizing and dehumanizing Tiller, who he invariably called "Tiller the baby killer."

As you can see from these video clip samplings of O’Reilly’s holy war, you don’t have to actually pull the trigger to help sponsor terrorism:

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Op maandag 1 juni 2009 09:54 schreef Iblis het volgende:

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Dat zijn eigenlijk de hoektanden, maar ik neem aan dat je die bedoelt. De snijtanden zijn de voorste tanden, maar dan voldoet een konijn duidelijk als voorbeeld van een herbivoor met snijtanden.

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Op maandag 1 juni 2009 00:39 schreef isogram het volgende:

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Eng mannetje ben jij, om -smilie bij zo'n nieuwsbericht te zetten, met een bijbeltekst over bloedvergieten. Alsof mensen het recht hebben om zelf voor God te spelen.

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Op maandag 1 juni 2009 19:02 schreef Fortune_Cookie het volgende:
Kennelijk weet het voedingscentrum nog niet dat plantaardige eiwitten veel slechter worden opgenomen door het lichaam dan dierlijke.

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Edit: het voedingscentrum rept zelfs nog over De Schijf van Vijf. Totaal niet serieus te nemen.

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It is the position of the American Dietetic Association and Dietitians of Canada that appropriately planned vegetarian diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases.

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We combined data from 5 prospective studies to compare the death rates from common diseases of vegetarians with those of nonvegetarians with similar lifestyles. A summary of these results was reported previously; we report here more details of the findings. Data for 76172 men and women were available. Vegetarians were those who did not eat any meat or fish (n = 27808). Death rate ratios at ages 16–89 y were calculated by Poisson regression and all results were adjusted for age, sex, and smoking status. A random-effects model was used to calculate pooled estimates of effect for all studies combined. There were 8330 deaths after a mean of 10.6 y of follow-up. Mortality from ischemic heart disease was 24% lower in vegetarians than in nonvegetarians (death rate ratio: 0.76; 95% CI: 0.62, 0.94; P < 0.01). The lower mortality from ischemic heart disease among vegetarians was greater at younger ages and was restricted to those who had followed their current diet for >5 y. Further categorization of diets showed that, in comparison with regular meat eaters, mortality from ischemic heart disease was 20% lower in occasional meat eaters, 34% lower in people who ate fish but not meat, 34% lower in lactoovovegetarians, and 26% lower in vegans. There were no significant differences between vegetarians and nonvegetarians in mortality from cerebrovascular disease, stomach cancer, colorectal cancer, lung cancer, breast cancer, prostate cancer, or all other causes combined.

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Conclusions: The mortality of both the vegetarians and the nonvegetarians in these studies is low compared with national rates. Within the studies, mortality for major causes of death was not significantly different between vegetarians and nonvegetarians, but the nonsignificant reduction in mortality from ischemic heart disease among vegetarians was compatible with the significant reduction previously reported in a pooled analysis of mortality in Western vegetarians.

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Both red and processed meat intakes were positively associated with cancers of the colorectum and lung; furthermore, red meat intake was associated with an elevated risk for cancers of the esophagus and liver.

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Conclusion: During 5 years follow-up, the mean annual weight gain in a health-conscious cohort in the UK was approximately 400 g. Small differences in weight gain were observed between meat-eaters, fish-eaters, vegetarians and vegans. Lowest weight gain was seen among those who, during follow-up, had changed to a diet containing fewer animal food.