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Op dinsdag 30 december 2008 21:58 schreef ItaloDancer het volgende:
Ik kan al raden wat jij gaat doen.
Vertel. .
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Go PPT! Go!
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Futures dik in het groen. We gaan knallen, dat staat vast. Het is wel twijfelachtig dat dit de hele dag duurt. Uiteindelijk neemt iedereen z'n winst omdat 2009 een verdomd onzeker jaar belooft te worden. Daarin wil je nog geen aandelen van hebben, en dan kies je voor je eieren.
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Op dinsdag 30 december 2008 22:00 schreef BigStock het volgende:

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Vertel. .
Je verkoopt om 9 uur.
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Op dinsdag 30 december 2008 22:12 schreef ItaloDancer het volgende:
Je verkoopt om 9 uur.
Nee man, dan zit ik nog te maffen.

Sowieso, de hele week was ik van plan om op half 9 te ontwaken. Maar ik verslaap steeds. Vandaag werd ik weer om half 1 wakker. .
  dinsdag 30 december 2008 @ 22:20:19 #82
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Op dinsdag 30 december 2008 22:10 schreef BigStock het volgende:
en dan kies je voor je eieren.
Ik kies altijd voor mijn eieren.
Money is short, times are hard, here's my fucking business card!
"I never let my schooling interfere with my education." — Mark Twain
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willem nu op nederland 2 (nova)
  dinsdag 30 december 2008 @ 22:31:36 #84
37431 Lemmeb
accountabilabuddiable
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tanx!
Money is short, times are hard, here's my fucking business card!
"I never let my schooling interfere with my education." — Mark Twain
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Een oud nieuwsbericht waarin er van de PPT gesproken werd.
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Dow herstelt van intraday recordverlies



De Dow Jones zat maandag in het laatste kwartier opeens 500 punten in de plus, nadat het een uur geleden nog 800 punten in het min stond. Volgens handelaren is het beruchte Amerikaanse Plunge Protection Team in de markt gestapt. De Dow herstelde wonderbaarlijk van een recordverlies.


Plunge
Het Plunge Protection Team , PPT, is wel erkend door de Amerikaanse overheid, maar er hangt een schimmige sfeer overheen. Het bestaan is nooit helemaal duidelijk geworden. Het wordt omgegeven door vele mysteries.

Markten ondersteunen
Het PPT investeert naar verluidt met geld van de Amerikaanse overheid in de markten, om tot een eerlijk verloop van de markten te komen. "Het is gewoon ondersteuning van markt', aldus een tevreden Amsterdamse handelaar maandagavond laat. 'Elke tik was een koop in het laatste uur."

10.000
De Dow Jones zakte maandag voor het eerst in lange tijd tot ruim onder de 10.000 punten met een dieptepunt op 9555, een record-verlies van 800 punten. Een kwartier later vond dus opeens het wonderbaarlijke herstel met 500 punten plaats, tot boven de 10.000, zonder nieuws. De Dow Jones sloot af met een plus nadat eerder op de dag een verlies van bijna 8% op de borden had gestaan.
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Op dinsdag 30 december 2008 22:30 schreef M.Melandri het volgende:
willem nu op nederland 2 (nova)
ja is leuk.
De directeur van Value8 is er ook
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Begint die gek weer met zijn windpark

Ga al die corporatiewoningen uit de jaren 60 maar eens isoleren of slopen, besparen is beter dan investeren in wind
  dinsdag 30 december 2008 @ 22:39:21 #88
129292 LXIV
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Op dinsdag 30 december 2008 22:37 schreef henkway het volgende:
Begint die gek weer met zijjn windpark

Ga al die corporatiewoningen uit de jaren 60 maar eens isoleren of slopen, besparen is beter dan investeren in wind
Inderdaad! Daar valt voor een tiende van de investering het honderdvoudige te winnen!
The End Times are wild
  dinsdag 30 december 2008 @ 22:40:16 #89
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Op dinsdag 30 december 2008 22:39 schreef LXIV het volgende:

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Inderdaad! Daar valt voor een tiende van de investering het honderdvoudige te winnen!
En je kunt het ook heel rendabel doen. Want je laat de huurders of eigenaar gewoon net zoveel betalen als ze aan gas uitsparen.! Of 50-50.
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met de huidige normen van bebouwingsdichtheid kun je kostenneutraal slopen en alles klimaatneutraal herbouwen.

En een extra boost voor de economie creëren

[ Bericht 11% gewijzigd door henkway op 30-12-2008 23:02:52 ]
  dinsdag 30 december 2008 @ 22:55:21 #91
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Waarom gebeurt dit eigenlijk niet? Dat moet toch ook bij VROM bekend zijn? En die windmolens leveren toch veel minder energie op, als je de kosten van fabricage en onderhoud meerekent!
The End Times are wild
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John Crudele: The day I met the Plunge Protection Team
Section: Daily Dispatches
By John Crudele
New York Post

http://www.nypost.com/sev(...)ur_columnist_took...

I swear that this is the truth, the whole truth, and
nothing but: I met the Plunge
Protection Team.

As I explained in my two previous columns on the
Plunge Protection Team, a former
Federal Reserve governor in 1989 proposed that the
U.S. government be allowed to rig the stock market in
case of emergency.

"The stock market is certainly not too big for the Fed
to handle," said Robert Heller, who suggested that the
government secretly buy stock index futures to save
Wall Street and the economy from catastrophe.

Heller's plan hung like a fairy godmother over the
market (in other words, you want to believe but really
can't) until the Washington Post naively wrote about
the Plunge Protection Team in 1997.

The PPT, the Post said, was started in 1987 and had
met secretly until -- at the height of the last stock
market bubble -- dozens of participants suddenly
started spilling the beans. How convenient, no?

My brush with the Plunge Protection Team occurred on
Sept. 18, 2001. Yeah, that day!

You'll remember that the stock market had been closed
for a week because terrorists had attacked the World
Trade Center.

I was stuck in New Jersey when I placed a call to a
top financial executive with close ties to the Federal
Reserve and who also happens to have spent much of his
life in public service. Let's call my source Fred.

As I recall, my intention was to ask Fred some lame
question like: "Can the U.S. economy survive this?"
Fred was also stuck somewhere else and couldn't be
reached, so I posed my stupid questions to others as I
pumped out columns that were dutifully upbeat and
patriotic for a week.

I forgot about Fred altogether until he returned my
phone call on Sept. 18, explaining that he had been
stranded out of the country.

By the time Fred had gotten back to me, the stock
market had already opened and prices were sharply
lower even though the Federal Reserve had made a
not-so-surprising reduction in interest rates that
morning.

Fred was annoyed, mostly with Treasury Secretary Paul
O'Neill, who, Fred felt, hadn't emphasized the rate
cut enough when addressing the nervous public (and the
financial markets) that morning.

Now I was annoyed, so I blurted out that Fred should
wise up. I can't remember exactly what I said but it
was something like, "Hey, wake up. Nobody cares about
the interest rate cut. Someone has to step in front of
this market and save it."

Then I remember referring Fred to the proposal made in
1989 by Heller.

And when it didn't look like Fred was going to be able
to get a copy of Heller's October 1999 article in The
Wall Street Journal I faxed it over to him. Fred's
secretary never acknowledged receiving the fax, but
she did call me up later in the day to make sure
something Fred had promised me was beginning.

The stock market rallied late in the day on Oct. 18. I
don't know if Fred had anything to do with it or
whether the rally was just spontaneous.

These days, things seem different with Big Mouth Ben
Bernanke now at the helm of the Fed; there's the
possibility of a crisis any day.

Remember, Bernanke once proposed running the printing
press and dropping currency from helicopters as an
economic plan. And lately Bernanke wasn't astute
enough to demur when asked about his concern about
rising prices, probably because he's trying to
overcome his reputation as an inflation slacker.
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John Crudele: Ben, come clean about the PPT!
By John Crudele
New York Post

http://www.nypost.com/bus(...)s_john_crudele.ht...

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke revealed that the secretive Plunge Protection Team meets several times a year, but he dodged a congressman's inquiries about what the group does and whether minutes are kept of those meetings.

So the Post has filed a Freedom of Information Act request for those minutes -- specifically for the meetings that likely occurred immediately after the terrorist attacks in 2001.

I wrote about the Plunge Protection Team in a article earlier this month. Formally called the Working Group on Financial Markets, it was formed in 1988 by President Reagan to advise Wall Street.

Orginially headed by the Secretary of the Treasury, it also has top regulators and the chairman of the Fed as members in 1989.

But in addition to giving Wall Street advice, I suspect -- and former White House adviser George Stephanopoulos seems to have confirmed -- that the Plunge Protection team has morphed into something more active.

And Wall Street firms may have been invited to join.

What's clear from answers to questions posed by Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, is that new Fed chief Bernanke either doesn't know much about the role of the working group or preferred not to discuss the matter.

And, I think, it's time we found out a little more about an organization that could afford some Wall Street firms an opportunity to reap massive profits at the expense of ordinary investors.

Here's some of the exchange that occurred between Bernanke and Rep. Paul last Thursday at the House Financial Committee hearings.

* * *

Rep. Paul: Good afternoon, Chairman Bernanke. I have a question dealing with the Working Group on Financial Markets. I want to learn more about that group and exactly what authority they have and what they do.

Could you tell me how often they meet and how often they have actions? And have they done something recently? And are there reports sent out by this particular group?

Bernanke: Yes, congressman. The president's working group was convened by the president, I believe, after the 1987 stock market crash. It meets irregularly. And its primary function is advisory, to prepare reports.

Rep. Paul: In the media you'll find articles that will claim, at least, that it's a lot more than advisory. You know, if there is a stock market crash, that you literally have a lot of authority, you know, to impose restrictions. And we're talking about many trillions of dollars slushing around in all the financial markets. And this involves the Treasury and, of course, the Fed as well as the SEC (Securities & Exchange Commission) and the CFTC (Commodities Futures Trading Commission) And the reason this came to my attention was just recently there was an article that actually made a charge that out of this group came a position that interfered with the price of General Motors stock. Have you read that? Or do you know anything about that?

Bernanke: No sir. I don't know.

Rep. Paul: But back to the issue of meeting. You tell me it meets irregularly. But are there minutes kept, or are there reports made on this group?

Bernanke: I don't know. I believe there are records kept by other agencies. But I don't know which agencies.

Rep. Paul: And they would be available to us in the committee?

Bernanke: I don't know. I'm sorry. I don't know.

* * *

Rep. Paul obviously doesn't have a reporter's knack for the follow-up question, so here's what I would have asked next.

Crudele: Well, Mr. Bernanke, how about you find out? Someone in your position should know if, as former White House adviser Stephanopoulos has claimed, the Working Group on Financial Markets -- the Plunge Protection Team -- has the authority to interfere with the free market for stocks. And we'd also like to know who makes decision for the group, politicians or guys on Wall Street. Don't misunderstand, Mr. Bernanke. I'm not saying what the group is doing is wrong. But why should firms like Goldman Sachs -- from which two of the last four Treasury secretaries have come -- be in a better position than anyone else who gambles in the stock market?

See, that's why I'll never be in Congress.

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John Crudele is business columnist for the New York Post.


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Op dinsdag 30 december 2008 22:55 schreef LXIV het volgende:
Waarom gebeurt dit eigenlijk niet? Dat moet toch ook bij VROM bekend zijn? En die windmolens leveren toch veel minder energie op, als je de kosten van fabricage en onderhoud meerekent!
omdat ambtenaren zich de pleuris schrikken als het over woningbouw gaat vanwege de opgeblazen marktwaarde van hun eigen doorzonwoning.

Vandaar dat alle hoogopgeleide mensen makkelijk weggekocht kunnen worden door landen met een echte woningmarkt
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Op dinsdag 30 december 2008 22:37 schreef henkway het volgende:
Begint die gek weer met zijn windpark

Ga al die corporatiewoningen uit de jaren 60 maar eens isoleren of slopen, besparen is beter dan investeren in wind
Gatver, windenergie. Dat is zo vreselijk.

Waarom niet gewoon zonnecellen of kernenergie, daar botsen vogels tenminste niet tegen.
  FOK!-Schrikkelbaas dinsdag 30 december 2008 @ 23:09:08 #96
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Op dinsdag 30 december 2008 21:58 schreef ItaloDancer het volgende:
Ik kan al raden wat jij gaat doen.
Inderdaad, waarschijnlijk tot 14:00 uur nog 5 keer tussen short en long switchen.:')
Never in the entire history of calming down did anyone ever calm down after being told to calm down.
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Op dinsdag 30 december 2008 23:09 schreef Arcee het volgende:
Inderdaad, waarschijnlijk tot 14:00 uur nog 5 keer tussen short en long switchen.:')
Nu hou ik 'm vast. Echt!

Voor paar minuten.

Overigens, het is toch schandalig dat er zoiets als de PPT bestaat? Zie artikelen. Zo krijg je nooit een effeciënte markt en ga ik telkens in de mist met m'n turbo's. .
  dinsdag 30 december 2008 @ 23:12:33 #98
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Bigstock, uiteindelijk ga jij altijd de mist in wanneer je blijft daytraden met turbo's achter je PC-tje. Geloof me nou!

Waarop baseer je jouw aan en verkoopbeslissingen nou helemaal?
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Op dinsdag 30 december 2008 23:06 schreef pberends het volgende:

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Gatver, windenergie. Dat is zo vreselijk.

Waarom niet gewoon zonnecellen of kernenergie, daar botsen vogels tenminste niet tegen.
Ze kunnen woningen bouwen die netto energieleverancier zijn, maar de wil moet er zijn
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Denk niet dat PPT overheidsgeld gebruikt, dan zou de Amerikaanse staatsschuld nog veel hoger moeten zijn, maar dat de Fed gewoon geld bijprint zonder enige cover.
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