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Op vrijdag 10 oktober 2008 15:50 schreef BB-boy het volgende:
Ik zat wat oude debatten van Bush-Gore/Kerry te kijken om te zien waarom het Amerikaanse volk 2 keer voor hem gekozen heeft (of eigenlijk waarom hij het 2 keer geworden is).
Ik kwam een paar dagen geleden dit tegen: http://cgi.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/11/02/campaign.wrap/
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Gore said Bush's proposed tax cuts, spending plans and Social Security reforms would reward the wealthy at the expense of the middle class, and could usher in the return of massive federal government budget deficits: "Been there, done that, still paying the bills."

"I have a simple message," Gore said. "We have worked too hard on this economy to put it all at risk."

Gore again pledged to pay down the national debt, which he said would free more money for private lenders and effectively cut the third-largest government spending program. And he mocked Bush's appeals to change the harsh, partisan tone in Washington, suggesting that the Texas governor would simply hand government over to "the special interests."

"I can say no to the special interests with a smile," Gore said.
Voor de Democraten was toen al lang duidelijk dat Bush niet deugde.
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Valt wel mee, geeft gewoon wat tegenwicht ten opzicht van de partijzender van de Democraten: CNN.
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Oops! Obama Supporter Introduces Biden as 'McCain'

Florida resident introduces Joe Biden as John McCain at rally, says he made an honest mistake

Freudian slip or honest mistake?

The Florida resident who introduced Joe Biden at a Tampa, Fla., rally Wednesday got one crucial detail wrong: the Democratic running mate's name.

He called him John, not Joe.

"Are you ready for the change that we all need?" Jim Piccillo asked, as he warmed up the Tampa crowd for Biden. "Then no matter what your party, gender, or race or religion, help me today in welcoming the next vice president of the United States ... John McCain!"

It's unclear whether anyone in the crowd could hear the flub. Biden greeted the audience and took the stage all the same. He didn't mention it in his speech.

Piccillo later told The Tampa Tribune he didn't even know he had said "John McCain" until he heard it on the radio driving home with his girlfriend.

"I screamed, 'I can't believe I did that,'" he told the Tribune.

Apparently, Piccillo is a registered Republican who was invited to introduce Biden after he was featured in a New York Times article for crossing over to support the Democratic nominee.

He said he had a "human moment" at the Biden rally -- not an attempt at sabotage.

McCain, though, had his own verbal blooper Wednesday. At one point, he mentioned the agenda he had set for "my fellow prisoners" when, according to his prepared remarks, he meant to say "citizens."
http://elections.foxnews.(...)oduces-biden-mccain/
“Laforest” seems like one of the more intellectual/controversial regulars
  vrijdag 10 oktober 2008 @ 18:11:52 #154
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Zoals Jezus.
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Ja, inmiddels is mij ook wel duidelijk dat laforest een troll is. Wel leuk gedaan, hoop mensen trapten er in. Ik ook.
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McCain begint zijn endorsements te verliezen: http://www.mlive.com/grpr(...)_milliken_backs.html

He is not the McCain I endorsed
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Op vrijdag 10 oktober 2008 17:38 schreef laforest het volgende:

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Ben benieuwd wanneer het filmpje "Obama had a gay marriage with Ayers" op de buis komt .
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van Yahoo
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Panic attacks: Voters unload at GOP rallies

The unmistakable momentum behind Barack Obama's campaign, combined with worry that John McCain is not doing enough to stop it, is ratcheting up fears and frustrations among conservatives.

And nowhere is this emotion on plainer display than at Republican rallies, where voters this week have shouted out insults at the mention of Obama, pleaded with McCain to get more aggressive with the Democrat and generally demonstrated the sort of visceral anger and unease that reflects a party on the precipice of panic.

The calendar is closing and the polls, at least right now, are not.

With McCain passing up the opportunity to level any tough personal shots in his first two debates and the very real prospect of an Obama presidency setting in, the sort of hard-core partisan activists who turn out for campaign events are venting in unusually personal terms.

"Terrorist!” one man screamed Monday at a New Mexico rally after McCain voiced the campaign’s new rhetorical staple aimed at raising doubts about the Illinois senator: “Who is the real Barack Obama?”

"He's a damn liar!” yelled a woman Wednesday in Pennsylvania. "Get him. He's bad for our country."

At both stops, there were cries of, “Nobama,” picking up on a phrase that has appeared on yard signs, T-shirts and bumper stickers.

And Thursday, at a campaign town hall in Wisconsin, one Republican brought the crowd to its feet when he used his turn at the microphone to offer a soliloquy so impassioned it made the network news and earned extended play on Rush Limbaugh’s program.

“I’m mad; I’m really mad!” the voter bellowed. “And what’s going to surprise ya, is it’s not the economy — it’s the socialists taking over our country.”

After the crowd settled down he was back at it. “When you have an Obama, Pelosi and the rest of the hooligans up there gonna run this country, we gotta have our head examined!”


Such contempt for Democrats is, of course, nothing new from conservative activists. But in 2000 and 2004, the Republican rank and file was more apt to ridicule Gore as a stiff fabulist or Kerry as an effete weather vane of a politician.

“Flip-flop, flip-flop,” went the cry at Republican rallies four years ago, often with footwear to match the chant.

Now, though, the emotion on display is unadulterated anger rather than mocking.

Activists outside rallies openly talk about Obama as a terrorist, citing his name and purported ties to Islam in the fashion of the viral e-mails that have rocketed around the Internet for over a year now.

Some of this activity is finding its way into the events, too.

On Thursday, as one man in the audience asked a question about Obama’s associations, the crowd erupted in name-calling.

"Obama Osama!" one woman called out.

And twice this week, local officials have warmed up the crowd by railing against “Barack Hussein Obama.”

Both times, McCain’s campaign has issued statements disavowing the use of the Democrat’s full name.
A McCain aide said they tell individuals speaking before every event not to do so. “Sometimes people just do what they want,” explained the aide.

The raw emotions worry some in the party who believe the broader swath of swing voters are far more focused on their dwindling retirement accounts than on Obama’s background and associations and will be turned off by footage of the McCain events.

John Weaver, McCain’s former top strategist, said top Republicans have a responsibility to temper this behavior.

“People need to understand, for moral reasons and the protection of our civil society, the differences with Sen. Obama are ideological, based on clear differences on policy and a lack of experience compared to Sen. McCain,” Weaver said. “And from a purely practical political vantage point, please find me a swing voter, an undecided independent, or a torn female voter that finds an angry mob mentality attractive.”

“Sen. Obama is a classic liberal with an outdated economic agenda. We should take that agenda on in a robust manner. As a party we should not and must not stand by as the small amount of haters in our society question whether he is as American as the rest of us. Shame on them and shame on us if we allow this to take hold.”
"Obama Osama!" Het wordt steeds triester.
"Would you guys stop it already?! Did you ever think that maybe there's more to life than being really, really, really, ridiculously good looking?"
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http://www.politicshome.com/mobile/blog.aspx?id=3692

TRANS-ATLANTIC CONSENSUS: OBAMA WILL WIN
PoliticsHome's unique expert panels at the heart of US and UK politics swing heavily behind a Democrat victory forecast; Right-leaning panellists abandon hope in McCain


Online100 Election Prediction Tracker: Sep-Oct 2008
At this point, who do you think is more likely to win the Presidential Election?
  vrijdag 10 oktober 2008 @ 19:18:36 #159
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GRAND RAPIDS -- He endorsed John McCain in the presidential primary, but now former Republican Gov. William Milliken is expressing doubts about his party's nominee.

"He is not the McCain I endorsed," said Milliken, reached at his Traverse City home Thursday. "He keeps saying, 'Who is Barack Obama?' I would ask the question, 'Who is John McCain?' because his campaign has become rather disappointing to me.

"I'm disappointed in the tenor and the personal attacks on the part of the McCain campaign, when he ought to be talking about the issues."

http://www.mlive.com/grpr(...)_milliken_backs.html
Géén kloon van tvlxd!
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Op vrijdag 10 oktober 2008 14:58 schreef Monidique het volgende:

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...blablabla...

De Republikeinen hebben heel wat duisternis naar boven gehaald.
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Thursday's debate took place in front of a highly partisan crowd in the GOP stronghold of Middle Georgia.

Chambliss supporters waved "Saxby" signs and offered up a sustained "boos" when Martin mentioned Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.

"Bomb Obama," one woman hollered.
http://tpmelectioncentral(...)08/10/bomb_obama.php
  vrijdag 10 oktober 2008 @ 19:48:17 #161
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Fetchez la vache!
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Op vrijdag 10 oktober 2008 18:17 schreef AlanSmitheeJr het volgende:
McCain begint zijn endorsements te verliezen: http://www.mlive.com/grpr(...)_milliken_backs.html

He is not the McCain I endorsed


Toch mooi. West Michigan is toch nog vrij republikeins en conservatief.

Schuld van Nederland.

't Gaat ooit wel goedkomen hier.

[ Bericht 11% gewijzigd door popolon op 10-10-2008 19:55:19 ]
Patience is not one of my virtues, neither is memory. Or patience for that matter.
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Op vrijdag 10 oktober 2008 17:20 schreef ub40_bboy het volgende:

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Al-Qaida is nu veel strerker dan voor de Irak oorlog, dat zeggen alle deskundigen. Dus ik weet niet wat je wilt dat er bereikt wordt daar.

Irak kan je sowieso wel afschrijven, er moet gewoon een land komen voor de sjiieten, soennieten en koerden.
Dat is natuurlijk onzin , het is al zoveel jaar na 9/11 en zulke grote aanslagen zijn gelukkig niet meer gebeurt , Al-Qaida is wel degenlijk verzwakt.
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Op vrijdag 10 oktober 2008 20:16 schreef USAISCOOL het volgende:

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Dat is natuurlijk onzin , het is al zoveel jaar na 9/11 en zulke grote aanslagen zijn gelukkig niet meer gebeurt , Al-Qaida is wel degenlijk verzwakt.
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US concern at al-Qaeda strength
Al-Qaeda's operating capabilities are at their strongest level since the 11 September 2001 attacks, according to leaks of a US intelligence report.
It suggests the network has rebuilt itself despite a six-year campaign to dismantle it.

The classified report identifies Pakistan's western tribal areas as the group's safe haven, and examines threats posed to the US and its allies.

It was compiled by the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC).

The five-page threat assessment document, Al-Qaeda Better Positioned to Strike the West, was to be discussed at the White House on Thursday.

'Robust training'

Al-Qaeda is "considerably operationally stronger than a year ago" and has "regrouped to an extent not seen since 2001," an official said, paraphrasing the report.

"They are showing greater and greater ability to plan attacks in Europe and the United States."

Of particular concern to the NCTC, reports BBC security correspondent Frank Gardner, is the possibility of a major al-Qaeda attack on America being carried out by Europe-based jihadists, particularly Britons, who are able to enter both Pakistan and the US with equal ease.

Counter-terrorism officials caution that just because there has been no repeat of 9/11 does not mean that al-Qaeda will give up trying.

The latest thinking of US intelligence was reflected in the testimony on Wednesday - before the House Armed Services Committee - of senior officials.

The CIA's deputy director for intelligence, John Kringen, told the hearing that al-Qaeda had created a safe haven in "the ungoverned spaces of Pakistan" - a reference to the rugged, lawless terrain of the Pakistani-Afghan border.

"We see more training. We see more money. We see more communications. We see that activity rising," he said.
Ik weet niet waar jij jou beweringen op baseert maar ik baseer ze op berichten van inlichtingendiensten.
lollig
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Op vrijdag 10 oktober 2008 20:23 schreef ub40_bboy het volgende:

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Ik weet niet waar jij jou beweringen op baseert maar ik baseer ze op berichten van inlichtingendiensten.
die inlichtingendiensten beweerden ook dat Saddam nog over weet ik veel hoeveel wmd beschikten.
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Op vrijdag 10 oktober 2008 20:23 schreef ub40_bboy het volgende:

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Ik weet niet waar jij jou beweringen op baseert maar ik baseer ze op berichten van inlichtingendiensten.
En er kan gerust wat aanhang bij zijn gekomen ,enkel alleen amateurs hun leiders worden redenlijk vaak afgeknald in Iraq.
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Op vrijdag 10 oktober 2008 20:16 schreef USAISCOOL het volgende:

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Dat is natuurlijk onzin , het is al zoveel jaar na 9/11 en zulke grote aanslagen zijn gelukkig niet meer gebeurt ,
Behalve dan in Madrid he... en in London... Jordanie... Pakistan... Algerije. Maar daarnaast idd niet.
En dan nog, wie zegt dat er een causaal verband is? Correlatie is niet hetzelfde als een oorzakelijk verband.
The problem is not the occupation, but how people deal with it.
  vrijdag 10 oktober 2008 @ 20:49:36 #167
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Op vrijdag 10 oktober 2008 16:16 schreef laforest het volgende:

de republikeinen gaan de macht niet loslaten, als het niet goedschiks gaat dan maar kwaadschiks.
Ach de republikeinen kunnen hoog en laag springen. De congresverkiezingen gaan sowieso een absolute catastrofe voor ze worden en ook zullen ze nog wel een aantal gouverneurs en andere posities gaan verliezen.
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Al Qaida is phantoom. Denk je echt dat mensen het Westen willen aanvallen omdat wij vrijheden hebben ?

Ze zijn desperate omdat wij tot over onze nek in hun landen zitten.
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Op vrijdag 10 oktober 2008 20:52 schreef pberends het volgende:
Al Qaida is phantoom. Denk je echt dat mensen het Westen willen aanvallen omdat wij vrijheden hebben ?

Ze zijn desperate omdat wij tot over onze nek in hun landen zitten.
Dit dus.
Calm down, please!
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er zelfs 25% kans dat de democraten 60 senatoren krijgen.

dan kunnen de republikeinen niet meer filibusteren.
want reken maar dat ze dat gaan doen als ze de kans krijgen.
zoveel mogelijk de boel blokkeren en dan obama / de democraten de schuld geven als er niets van de grond komt.
dat doen ze nu ook al. telkens zeggen dat sinds de democraten meerderheid hebben in het congres alles misgaat.
republikeinen zullen ook niet aarzelen met impeachment (als ze meerderheid zouden hebben).
stel voor 1 seconde voor dat bush een democraat was geweest.
republikeinen hadden hem dan meteen in z'n eerste jaar ge-impeached.
Dostojewski: "Je kunt je niet van je eigen gezond verstand overtuigen door je buurman op te sluiten."
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Op vrijdag 10 oktober 2008 20:32 schreef USAISCOOL het volgende:

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hun leiders worden redenlijk vaak afgeknald in Iraq.
Er worden inderdaad erg vaak 'belangrijke leiders' van Al Qaeda uitgeschakeld. Hoeveel 'belangrijke leiders' heeft dat Al Qaeda eigenlijk?
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Op vrijdag 10 oktober 2008 20:52 schreef pberends het volgende:
Al Qaida is phantoom. Denk je echt dat mensen het Westen willen aanvallen omdat wij vrijheden hebben ?

Ze zijn desperate omdat wij tot over onze nek in hun landen zitten.
En daarom is Al-Qaida ook gegroeid, omdat Amerika nu in Koeweit, Saodie-Arabië, Afghanistan en Irak zit.
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Op vrijdag 10 oktober 2008 21:13 schreef ub40_bboy het volgende:

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En daarom is Al-Qaida ook gegroeid, omdat Amerika nu in Koeweit, Saodie-Arabië, Afghanistan en Irak zit.
Precies. Doet Bush goed .

Bush is de nummer 1 terroristenkweker .
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Op vrijdag 10 oktober 2008 21:14 schreef pberends het volgende:

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Precies. Doet Bush goed .

Bush is de nummer 1 terroristenkweker .
Dat was ook zo mooi bij de republikeinse voorverkiezingen. Ron Paul beweerde dat de moslims ons haten omdat wij hun landen bezetten. Nee zeiden alle andere kandidaten, ze haten ons vanwege onze vrijheden.
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Op vrijdag 10 oktober 2008 21:14 schreef pberends het volgende:

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Precies. Doet Bush goed .

Bush is de nummer 1 terroristenkweker .
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Main Entry: ter·ror

1: a state of intense fear
2 a: one that inspires fear : scourge
2 b: a frightening aspect <the terrors of invasion>

2 c: a cause of anxiety : worry
2 d: an appalling person or thing ; especially : brat
3: reign of terror
4: violent or destructive acts (as bombing) committed by groups in order to intimidate a population or government into granting their demands <insurrection and revolutionary terror>
Calm down, please!
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