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Ben ook benieuwd naar de reacties in Frankrijk. Die zullen behoorlijk angstig worden 
Beter 1 vogel op FOK! dan 87 op Tweakers.
Ik weet niet hoe roemenié speelt, maar als frankrijk daar gelijk tegen speelt hebben wij toch wel een kans?
BigSoccer.comquote:Op maandag 9 juni 2008 23:17 schreef AryaMehr het volgende:
Prachtig!
Weet iemand nog een groot Engelstalige forum waar hier druk over gepraat wordt?
the times:
Dutch masters floor world champions Italy
Holland 3 Italy 0
Ruud van Nistelrooy celebrates after putting Holland in front (EPA/Ettore Ferrari)
AP
Holland’s 30-year wait for a victory over Italy ended in glorious fashion in Berne as Marco van Basten’s side rampaged their way to a 3-0 defeat of the world champions.
A clearly offside goal from Ruud van Nistelrooy may have kickstarted the rout but there was no doubting that the Dutch, superior in every area, fully deserved a victory that was completed by Wesley Sneijder’s close-range strike and a late breakaway goal by the outstanding Gio van Bronckhorst.
Uncharacteristically shaky in defence, the Italians were given a painful reminder of the importance of their World Cup captain Fabio Cannavaro, who was ruled out of the tournament after suffering an ankle injury in training last week.
Marco Materazzi took Cannavaro’s place in the centre of defence but filling the former world player of the year’s boots was to prove beyond the Inter Milan veteran, who was substituted ten minutes into the second half.
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The first clear indication of the extent to which the Italians would miss Cannavaro came after quarter of an hour, when van Nistelrooy got in behind Materazzi only to be let down by a heavy first touch as he attempted to go round Buffon.
Materazzi made partial amends by heading Sneijder’s free-kick from the left over his own bar. But there was no such let-off for the Italians when Rafael van der Vart swung in a similar delivery from the opposite flank minutes later.
Buffon could only the palm the ball away at his back post and when the ball was rolled back to Sneijder the midfielder unleashed a fierce low drive that van Nistelrooy turned into the net from four yards out.
As the striker was clearly offside, the ensuing protests may have been justified but their only result was a yellow card for Luca Toni.
Five minutes later the Italians found themselves in deeper trouble after a move that suggests Total Football is alive and well in the Netherlands. Having cleared Andrea Pirlo’s corner off his own line, van Bronckhurst immediately sprinted forward to take possession once more in the acres of space that had opened up down the left.
The Barcelona defender’s cross was knocked down by Kuyt from beyond the back post and Sneijder, having stolen a yard on Materazzi, lashed the bouncing ball in between Buffon’s left glove and the near post.
The world champions could offer little in response, their one real moment of menace before the break coming when Antonio di Natale’s volley bounced through the legs of Khalid Boulahrouz with the result that Edwin van der Sar needed two attempts to smother the ball.
Van Nistelrooy should have extended the Dutch lead a minute before the break after Sneijder’s superb pass once again put him in behind Materazzi.
From just inside the box, the striker pushed his shot towards the bottom corner only to see it ricocheted off Buffon’s leg and up over the bar.
Within ten minutes of the restart, Italian coach Roberto Donadoni had decided radical surgery was required for his malfunctioning back four.
Materazzi was hauled off, Fabio Grosso introduced at left-back with Gianluigi Zambrotta switching sides to allow rightback Christian Panucci to move into the centre.
Alessandro Del Piero was also thrown into the fray and the Juventus forward’s prodding helped the Italians finally display some of their true quality.
But after Toni had lifted their best chance of the night over the bar, van der Sar produced superb stops to keep out Grosso’s low drive and one of Pirlo’s trademark freekicks in quick succession.
Inevitably gaps were being left at the back and the Dutch took advantage with another counter-attack move of breathtaking fluency that finished with van Bronckhorst playing the overlapping Kuyt into space inside the box.
Buffon blocked the Liverpool striker’s shot but he was able to collect the loose ball and chip it into the area for van Bronckhorst to head home.
Poor starts are nothing new for Italy but, on this evidence, a World Cup and Euro double looks beyond Donadoni’s men.
Dutch masters floor world champions Italy
Holland 3 Italy 0
Ruud van Nistelrooy celebrates after putting Holland in front (EPA/Ettore Ferrari)
AP
Holland’s 30-year wait for a victory over Italy ended in glorious fashion in Berne as Marco van Basten’s side rampaged their way to a 3-0 defeat of the world champions.
A clearly offside goal from Ruud van Nistelrooy may have kickstarted the rout but there was no doubting that the Dutch, superior in every area, fully deserved a victory that was completed by Wesley Sneijder’s close-range strike and a late breakaway goal by the outstanding Gio van Bronckhorst.
Uncharacteristically shaky in defence, the Italians were given a painful reminder of the importance of their World Cup captain Fabio Cannavaro, who was ruled out of the tournament after suffering an ankle injury in training last week.
Marco Materazzi took Cannavaro’s place in the centre of defence but filling the former world player of the year’s boots was to prove beyond the Inter Milan veteran, who was substituted ten minutes into the second half.
Related Links
France begin slowly after draw with Romania
The first clear indication of the extent to which the Italians would miss Cannavaro came after quarter of an hour, when van Nistelrooy got in behind Materazzi only to be let down by a heavy first touch as he attempted to go round Buffon.
Materazzi made partial amends by heading Sneijder’s free-kick from the left over his own bar. But there was no such let-off for the Italians when Rafael van der Vart swung in a similar delivery from the opposite flank minutes later.
Buffon could only the palm the ball away at his back post and when the ball was rolled back to Sneijder the midfielder unleashed a fierce low drive that van Nistelrooy turned into the net from four yards out.
As the striker was clearly offside, the ensuing protests may have been justified but their only result was a yellow card for Luca Toni.
Five minutes later the Italians found themselves in deeper trouble after a move that suggests Total Football is alive and well in the Netherlands. Having cleared Andrea Pirlo’s corner off his own line, van Bronckhurst immediately sprinted forward to take possession once more in the acres of space that had opened up down the left.
The Barcelona defender’s cross was knocked down by Kuyt from beyond the back post and Sneijder, having stolen a yard on Materazzi, lashed the bouncing ball in between Buffon’s left glove and the near post.
The world champions could offer little in response, their one real moment of menace before the break coming when Antonio di Natale’s volley bounced through the legs of Khalid Boulahrouz with the result that Edwin van der Sar needed two attempts to smother the ball.
Van Nistelrooy should have extended the Dutch lead a minute before the break after Sneijder’s superb pass once again put him in behind Materazzi.
From just inside the box, the striker pushed his shot towards the bottom corner only to see it ricocheted off Buffon’s leg and up over the bar.
Within ten minutes of the restart, Italian coach Roberto Donadoni had decided radical surgery was required for his malfunctioning back four.
Materazzi was hauled off, Fabio Grosso introduced at left-back with Gianluigi Zambrotta switching sides to allow rightback Christian Panucci to move into the centre.
Alessandro Del Piero was also thrown into the fray and the Juventus forward’s prodding helped the Italians finally display some of their true quality.
But after Toni had lifted their best chance of the night over the bar, van der Sar produced superb stops to keep out Grosso’s low drive and one of Pirlo’s trademark freekicks in quick succession.
Inevitably gaps were being left at the back and the Dutch took advantage with another counter-attack move of breathtaking fluency that finished with van Bronckhorst playing the overlapping Kuyt into space inside the box.
Buffon blocked the Liverpool striker’s shot but he was able to collect the loose ball and chip it into the area for van Bronckhorst to head home.
Poor starts are nothing new for Italy but, on this evidence, a World Cup and Euro double looks beyond Donadoni’s men.
wat moet ik hier nu neerzetten?
the times timesonline.co.ukquote:Dutch masters floor world champions Italy
Holland 3 Italy 0
Ruud van Nistelrooy celebrates after putting Holland in front (EPA/Ettore Ferrari)
AP
Holland’s 30-year wait for a victory over Italy ended in glorious fashion in Berne as Marco van Basten’s side rampaged their way to a 3-0 defeat of the world champions.
A clearly offside goal from Ruud van Nistelrooy may have kickstarted the rout but there was no doubting that the Dutch, superior in every area, fully deserved a victory that was completed by Wesley Sneijder’s close-range strike and a late breakaway goal by the outstanding Gio van Bronckhorst.
Uncharacteristically shaky in defence, the Italians were given a painful reminder of the importance of their World Cup captain Fabio Cannavaro, who was ruled out of the tournament after suffering an ankle injury in training last week.
Marco Materazzi took Cannavaro’s place in the centre of defence but filling the former world player of the year’s boots was to prove beyond the Inter Milan veteran, who was substituted ten minutes into the second half.
Related Links
France begin slowly after draw with Romania
The first clear indication of the extent to which the Italians would miss Cannavaro came after quarter of an hour, when van Nistelrooy got in behind Materazzi only to be let down by a heavy first touch as he attempted to go round Buffon.
Materazzi made partial amends by heading Sneijder’s free-kick from the left over his own bar. But there was no such let-off for the Italians when Rafael van der Vart swung in a similar delivery from the opposite flank minutes later.
Buffon could only the palm the ball away at his back post and when the ball was rolled back to Sneijder the midfielder unleashed a fierce low drive that van Nistelrooy turned into the net from four yards out.
As the striker was clearly offside, the ensuing protests may have been justified but their only result was a yellow card for Luca Toni.
Five minutes later the Italians found themselves in deeper trouble after a move that suggests Total Football is alive and well in the Netherlands. Having cleared Andrea Pirlo’s corner off his own line, van Bronckhurst immediately sprinted forward to take possession once more in the acres of space that had opened up down the left.
The Barcelona defender’s cross was knocked down by Kuyt from beyond the back post and Sneijder, having stolen a yard on Materazzi, lashed the bouncing ball in between Buffon’s left glove and the near post.
The world champions could offer little in response, their one real moment of menace before the break coming when Antonio di Natale’s volley bounced through the legs of Khalid Boulahrouz with the result that Edwin van der Sar needed two attempts to smother the ball.
Van Nistelrooy should have extended the Dutch lead a minute before the break after Sneijder’s superb pass once again put him in behind Materazzi.
From just inside the box, the striker pushed his shot towards the bottom corner only to see it ricocheted off Buffon’s leg and up over the bar.
Within ten minutes of the restart, Italian coach Roberto Donadoni had decided radical surgery was required for his malfunctioning back four.
Materazzi was hauled off, Fabio Grosso introduced at left-back with Gianluigi Zambrotta switching sides to allow rightback Christian Panucci to move into the centre.
Alessandro Del Piero was also thrown into the fray and the Juventus forward’s prodding helped the Italians finally display some of their true quality.
But after Toni had lifted their best chance of the night over the bar, van der Sar produced superb stops to keep out Grosso’s low drive and one of Pirlo’s trademark freekicks in quick succession.
Inevitably gaps were being left at the back and the Dutch took advantage with another counter-attack move of breathtaking fluency that finished with van Bronckhorst playing the overlapping Kuyt into space inside the box.
Buffon blocked the Liverpool striker’s shot but he was able to collect the loose ball and chip it into the area for van Bronckhorst to head home.
Poor starts are nothing new for Italy but, on this evidence, a World Cup and Euro double looks beyond Donadoni’s men.
Holland (4-2-3-1): E van der Sar — K Boulahrouz (sub: J Heitinga, 77min), A Ooijer, J Mathijsen, G van Bronckhorst — N de Jong, O Engelaar — D Kuyt (sub: I Afellay, 84), R van der Vaart, W Sneijder — R van Nistelrooy (sub: R van Persie, 70). Substitutes not used: H Timmer, M Stekelenburg, D de Zeeuw, A Robben, M Melchiot, W Bouma, T de Cler, K-J Huntelaar, J Vennegoor of Hesselink. Booked: De Jong.
Italy (4-3-3): G Buffon — C Panucci, A Barzagli, M Materazzi (sub: F Grosso, 55), G Zambrotta — G Gattuso, A Pirlo, M Ambrosini — M Camoranesi (sub: A Cassano, 75), L Toni, A Di Natale (sub: A Del Piero, 64). Substitutes not used: M Amelia, M De Sanctis, G Chiellini, A Gamberini, D De Rossi, M Borriello, F Quagliarella, S Perrotta, A Aquilani. Booked: Toni, Zambrotta, Gattuso.
Referee: P Fröjdfeldt (Sweden).
De Narcis van Gabon
Het grappige is dat ze allemaal lullen over die 'buitenspel' goal, terwijl ze nu eigenlijk al hun berichten moeten aanpassen omdat alle haastig opgebelde scheidsrechters aangeven dat het helemaal geen buitenspel was
beter een knipoog dan een blauw oog
Wij hebben zeker kans om gelijk te spelen en dat is al voldoende voor de volgende rondequote:Op maandag 9 juni 2008 23:18 schreef mug89 het volgende:
Ik weet niet hoe roemenié speelt, maar als frankrijk daar gelijk tegen speelt hebben wij toch wel een kans?
quote:talie, le coup de batave
Le 09/06/2008 22h35
C'est la première grosse sensation de cet Euro 2008 ! L'Italie, championne du monde en titre, a essuyé lundi une véritable correction pour son entrée en lice dans la compétition, étrillée 3-0 par une intenable sélection des Pays-Bas. Bien aidés il est vrai par l'oubli arbitral d'un hors-jeu flagrant sur le premier but de Van Nistelrooy, les Néerlandais ont ensuite enfoncé le clou par Sneijder et Van Bronckhorst. Les hommes de Van Basten prennent ainsi les rênes du groupe C devant la France et la Roumanie.
Buffon à terre, les Pays-Bas exultent. (Reuters)
Annoncée favorite de cet Euro jusque dans les petits papiers des sélectionneurs conviés à l'événement, la France a essuyé une sévère désillusion ce lundi en concédant le match nul devant la Roumanie. Ce n'est certainement rien pourtant en comparaison de la vertigineuse déconvenue subie par l'Italie dans la soirée. Battus d'entrée de compétition par des Pays-Bas euphoriques, les champions du monde sont tombés de haut à Berne, compromettant d'ores et déjà sérieusement leurs chances de qualification pour les quarts de finale. A ce train là, le France-Italie du 17 juin sera très probablement décisif. Le vaincu d'alors sans doute invité à faire ses valises.
Le football total, marque de fabrique des Oranje à l'époque où un certain Cruyff écrivait l'histoire du ballon rond, a pris un sacré coup de jeune en cette troisième journée de l'Euro 2008. Orpheline de Robben et de Babel, privé à la dernière minute de Championnat d'Europe pour cause de blessure à la cheville, la sélection néerlandaise a démontré que Van Basten était toutefois loin d'être à court d'arguments offensifs. Avec Kuyt, Van der Vaart et Sneijder pour alimenter l'indéboulonnable Van Nistelrooy sur le front de l'attaque, les Bataves ont tout bonnement pris à la gorge une Squadra Azzurra pour sa part meurtrie, manifestement, par l'absence de Cannavaro.
Dès les premières minutes de jeu, le ballon prenait plus volontiers la direction des buts de Buffon. Exceptée une intervention maladroite de Toni, lequel chipait involontairement le cuir à un Di Natale en bien meilleure posture peu avant le premier quart d'heure, l'Italie n'avait que peu d'occasions de sortir de son camp et la première véritable alerte du match échouait dans les pieds de Van Nistelrooy, même si le dribble trop long de l'avant-centre néerlandais épargnait l'arrière-garde transalpine (18e). Huit minutes plus tard en revanche, le buteur du real Madrid ne manquait pas la cible. Opportuniste sur un coup de canon de Sneijder, Van Nistelrooy coupait victorieusement la trajectoire du ballon (1-0, 26e).
Une réaction d'orgueil vaine
Une ouverture du score hélas entachée d'une position de hors-jeu niée par l'homme en noir qui se voyait en outre trahi par ses assistants, lesquels laissaient libre la diffusion des images du forfait sur les écrans géants d'un stade en ébullition. Ce coup du sort assassin, les Italiens n'allaient pas s'en remettre. Dans la foulée, les espaces s'élargissant, les Oranje déroulaient et portaient à nouveau l'estocade. Cette fois, la réalisation de Sneijder ne souffrait d'aucune contestation. Le feu-follet madrilène fusillait Buffon à la conclusion d'une superbe ouverture de Van Bronckhorst relayée par Kuyt (2-0, 31e). Avant la pause, seul Di Natale soutenait la comparaison côté transalpin mais ses audacieuses tentatives se révélaient vaines (33e et 45e). Van Nistelrooy se permettait même de manquer le face-à-face du KO, tandis qu'il butait sur le meilleur portier du monde à trois minutes du repos.
En deuxième période, l'entrée sur le terrain de Grosso à la place de Materazzi, couplée à la prise de conscience manifeste des champions du monde, établissait un nouveau rapport de force. Mieux en place et un peu plus hargneux, les joueurs de Donadoni se créaient les meilleures opportunités, notamment au cours d'un deuxième quart d'heure de feu. Pirlo, sur coup franc, sonnait d'abord la révolte (64e), puis Del Piero, à peine entré en jeu, mettait à contribution un Van der Sar jusqu'alors bien tranquille (66e et 70e). Le plus dur restait toutefois à venir pour le dernier rempart néerlandais qui devait déployer tout son talent pour détourner un missile de Grosso et un nouveau coup franc de Pirlo (78e), ce à la suite d'un lob osé mais hoirs cadre de Toni (76e).
A force de laisser passer sa chance, l'Italie s'exposait à une punition plus cruelle encore. Au plus fort de la domination transalpine, Van Bronckhorst assénait le coup de grâce à la Squadra Azzurra au terme d'un contre rondement mené en compagnie de Kuyt (3-0, 79e). La suite relevait forcément de l'anecdote pour des champions du monde littéralement humiliés. Des Italiens désormais bons derniers de la poule C et qui n'auront pas d'alternative à la victoire, vendredi, face à la Roumanie.
http://www.tv5.org/TV5Sit(...)e_coup_de_batave.htm
Vond het jammer dat de BBC het niet uitzond, vooral tijdens de rust wanneer het weer reclame is op Ned 1. Engelse analyses zijn altijd goed
En een Belg in een forum over Nederland:
quote:09/06 23:11 Re: Oranje overklast matige wereldkampioen ()
In belgie kunnen we wat leren van Nederlanders op sportgebied en voetbal gebied. We staan zo achter de laatste 6 a 8 jaar.
Alles er ron, die samenhorigheid, dat volkslied (kippevel) dat oranje. Die sfeer er rond.
Olympische spelen: oranje huis en al zo een dingen.
Die zijn ook vb niet tevreden met een bronzen medaille of ee derde plaats, of een gelijkspel.
Hier in Belgie springen e een gat in de lucht bij maar een 1-0 verlies op chelsea vb.
En komen we zot bij een bronzen medaille op de spelen.
Belgie 4 medailles 4 jaar geleden. Nederland 18 medailles.
Nederland 17 volwaardige stadions.
Belgie: 0 of 3 halve: genk, anderlecht, standard.
Met gent, waregem en brugge zal er welverandering eetje inkomen.
We zijn een bijna even groot land. Maar die mannen staan zoveel voor on. En hebben zoveel meer ambitie! En professionaliteit.
De quote van vandereycken zegt alles bij een 1-4 verlies zeggen voor de 10de maal. Ik zag positieve punten en dit tegen een marokko dan maar.
Proficiat Noorderburen.
jep en Engelse commentators zijn altijd leuk aan t babbelen over NL.
[DEF] SC#8 Pumatje, niet geboren maar door de baas verstrekt
tik in 'italy' of 'netherlands' op youtube en misschien kun je nog wat leuke videos vinden met recente reacties:
zoals hier bijvoorbeeld
Ik blijf het leuk vinden
zoals hier bijvoorbeeld
quote:VALDIGNE (31 minutes ago) Show Hide 0 Marked as spam Reply Totally fucked in the ass, wonderful victory for the Oranjes.
I am Italian but I cheared for Holland from now on I support the Dutch all the way.
Forza Olanda
Ik blijf het leuk vinden
Mooiste stukje tot nu toequote:Op maandag 9 juni 2008 23:11 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:
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Dutch thrash aging Italians
With the most convincing performance of Euro 2008 so far, the Netherlands tore Italy's aging world champions asunder in Bern on Monday night.
The 3-0 victory had class, it had physical power, it had utter belief, and it had too much in every sense that an athletic contest can be for the faded, jaded, disillusioned Italians.
Herald Tribune
Kwaliteitspost | Kwaliteitspost
Op maandag 8 december 2008 00:48 schreef Juup© het volgende:
Jij bent gewoon een hypocriete klootzak (althans dat vind ik).
Op maandag 8 december 2008 00:48 schreef Juup© het volgende:
Jij bent gewoon een hypocriete klootzak (althans dat vind ik).
Het was ook altijd zo schitterend om alle persberichten te lezen toen PSV in de CL tot de halve finale geraakte. Altijd een genot om te lezen
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SI.comquote:At the Wankdorf stadium, most of the stands looked an intense orange, and when most started singing "Hup, Holland, Hup," the Italians might have known it was all over.
Net als 4 jaar geleden na de fantastische wedstrijd tegen Tsjechie werd NL ook opgehemeld tot en met. Zelfs na een verlies, eens zien wat het nu wordt 
Die is erg mooi
Oftewel geen genoegen nemen met een overwinning maar dat moet met klasse gebeuren
Oftewel geen genoegen nemen met een overwinning maar dat moet met klasse gebeuren
Ik noem een Tony van Heemschut,een Loeki Knol,een Brammetje Biesterveld en natuurlijk een Japie Stobbe !
Was dat niet de wedstrijd met de befaamde wissel?quote:Op maandag 9 juni 2008 23:32 schreef ASSpirine het volgende:
Net als 4 jaar geleden na de fantastische wedstrijd tegen Tsjechie werd NL ook opgehemeld tot en met. Zelfs na een verlies, eens zien wat het nu wordt
Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds
de robben wisselquote:Op maandag 9 juni 2008 23:34 schreef mrcool het volgende:
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Was dat niet de wedstrijd met de befaamde wissel?
