Bulls, Bears & Bucks #07: FED regelt bail-out voor 'n koopje.

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Op vrijdag 14 maart 2008 20:51 schreef SeLang het volgende:
Schandalig die bailout van Bear Stearns vandaag.
Bear Stearns had vandaag gewoon failliet moeten gaan.
Nu loopt de FED (=belastingbetaler) het risico van die troep van Bear Stearns.
Als die "AAA" assets van Bear zo goed zijn, waarom neemt JPM die dan niet over op zijn balance sheet?

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Op vrijdag 14 maart 2008 21:37 schreef pberends het volgende:

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Leve het kapitalistische systeem van de VS!

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Op vrijdag 14 maart 2008 21:42 schreef SeLang het volgende:

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Het is geen kapitalistisch systeem.
Er zit daar een linkse elite die alles bepaalt.
Als een stelletje communisten anderen voor alle shit laten opdraaien in plaats van de verantwoordelijken hun eigen shit laten dragen.

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Congress created Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to
increase mortgage financing by buying loans from
lenders. The publicly traded companies profit by
holding mortgages and mortgage bonds as investments
and by charging a fee to guarantee and package loans
as securities. They record losses when defaults rise.

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Op vrijdag 14 maart 2008 21:42 schreef SeLang het volgende:

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Het is geen kapitalistisch systeem.
Er zit daar een linkse elite die alles bepaalt.
Als een stelletje communisten anderen voor alle shit laten opdraaien in plaats van de verantwoordelijken hun eigen shit laten dragen.

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Op vrijdag 14 maart 2008 23:44 schreef Richie_Rich het volgende:

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Toch wel geniaal hoe Goldman Sachs het allemaal gepareerd heeft

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Op vrijdag 14 maart 2008 23:48 schreef tony_clifton- het volgende:

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Nog genialer is dat de P/E van BSC nog steeds 50 is. Voor een failliet bedrijf. Nice!

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Op vrijdag 14 maart 2008 23:57 schreef en_door_slecht het volgende:

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Dat kan toch? Als ze vandaag ook 47% aan inkomsten mis gaan lopen voor de rest van het jaar, dan kan dat kloppen.

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Op vrijdag 14 maart 2008 22:00 schreef digitaLL het volgende:

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Yep,
Wie denkt dat de vrije markt de hypotheek derivaten heeft ontwikkelt heeft het mis.
Het is corporatisme van de bovenste plank.
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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 10:43 schreef SeLang het volgende:
In de USA wordt de economie door de staat geleid, zoals nu weer duidelijk blijkt.
Een soort van planeconomie. Alleen lukt dat plan niet altijd

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Op vrijdag 14 maart 2008 21:42 schreef SeLang het volgende:

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Het is geen kapitalistisch systeem.
Er zit daar een linkse elite die alles bepaalt.
Als een stelletje communisten anderen voor alle shit laten opdraaien in plaats van de verantwoordelijken hun eigen shit laten dragen.

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 11:11 schreef Basp1 het volgende:

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Ik heb meer het idee dat men nu pas in de zogenaamde vrije markt probeert in te grijpen. in deze zogenaamde vrije markt zou het kapitaal vrij moeten kunnen rondwaren over de aarde. Ook vreemde financiele constructies werden de kapitalisten met open armen ontvangen omdat hiermee meer winsten zonder meer productie gedraaid worden. In normale mensen taal worden dat luchtkastelen genoemd.

Wat zich hier aan het ontvouwen is zie ik eerder als het sprookje van de koning zonder kleren. De geheel financiele wereld bleef maar die paar top economen (chicago boys/ friedman) geloven. Terwijl er een grote groep was die maar zei dat er wat meer echte producten in de handel moeten zitten ipv van geld meer geld maken zonder werkelijke waarde toe te voegen. Maar door niet mee te doen aan het bouwen van die luchtkastelen sneedt je jezelf natuurlijk wel in de vingers omdat er toch meer luchtwinsten behaald werden dan in reele producten.

Als het goed gaat is in de VS geen planeconomie alleen als het mis gaat grijpt men in, dat is totaal wat anders als het altijd maar plannen zoals echte communisten doen.

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 10:43 schreef SeLang het volgende:
In de USA wordt de economie door de staat geleid, zoals nu weer duidelijk blijkt.
Een soort van planeconomie. Alleen lukt dat plan niet altijd

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Een centrale bank moet zorgen voor prijsstabiliteit

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Op vrijdag 14 maart 2008 21:24 schreef SeLang het volgende:
£/ € = 1.2896

Ik ga denk ik maar stoppen met werken want het levert bijna niks meer op.

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 11:48 schreef freud het volgende:

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De FED is geen eigendom van de overheid, maar een private instelling.

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Wat me best opvalt, is dat de gemiddelde nederlander echt geen idee heeft van wat er speelt. Soort van een tsunami die er aan komt en men ligt lekker te zonnen met de voetjes naar de zee, en vertellend hoe rustig het is. Werk zelf bij een importeur van twee automerken, en daar beseft men echt niet dat er zwaar weer aankomt door die geintjes in de VS. Gelukkig ben ik er over 2 maandjes weg .

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 11:48 schreef freud het volgende:

De FED is geen eigendom van de overheid, maar een private instelling.

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 11:49 schreef gronk het volgende:

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Mooi, maar in geval van amerikaans vastgoed, is dat dan de prijs van vastgoed anno 2001, of van vorig jaar? Kortom, wat is de 'juiste' prijs?

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 11:53 schreef HiZ het volgende:

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Tja, er zijn natuurlijk steeds meer mensen die zich realiseren dat de situatie in het VK eigenlijk nog een beetje erger is dan in de VS.

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Ik weet dat het een tijdje heeft geduurd, maar ik roep al 9 jaar dat er een dag komt dat de Britten betreuren dat ze niet in de veilige omgeving van de eurozone zijn gestapt. Ik denk dat die dag met rasse schreden dichterbij komt.

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 11:55 schreef SeLang het volgende:

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Niet alleen in Nederland maar eigenlijk overal.
Ik verbaas me zelfs over de lichtvoetigheid waarmee er in de financiële pers over wordt gepraat. Er wordt wel geschreven dat het allemaal heel erg is maar een paar regels verder beginnen ze dan weer over bijkopen want het is een goed instapmoment... Dat geeft mij de indruk dat we de bodem nog lang niet hebben gezien.

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Btw: waar ga je heen?

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 13:10 schreef Perrin het volgende:
sub-prime mortgage blues

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 13:17 schreef Drugshond het volgende:

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 13:10 schreef Perrin het volgende:
sub-prime mortgage blues

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 13:52 schreef simmu het volgende:
ik wil toch ffies iets kwijt over die hele "de VS is communistisch" discussie.

communisme houdt (heel erg grofweg!) in dat bedrijven staatseigendom zijn. in de VS zijn bedrijven geen staatseigendom, maar eigendom van china. well duhuh! there ya go!

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 11:39 schreef Drugshond het volgende:
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Op vrijdag 14 maart 2008 18:46 schreef pberends het volgende:
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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 11:11 schreef Basp1 het volgende:

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Ik heb meer het idee dat men nu pas in de zogenaamde vrije markt probeert in te grijpen. in deze zogenaamde vrije markt zou het kapitaal vrij moeten kunnen rondwaren over de aarde. Ook vreemde financiele constructies werden de kapitalisten met open armen ontvangen omdat hiermee meer winsten zonder meer productie gedraaid worden. In normale mensen taal worden dat luchtkastelen genoemd.

Wat zich hier aan het ontvouwen is zie ik eerder als het sprookje van de koning zonder kleren. De geheel financiele wereld bleef maar die paar top economen (chicago boys/ friedman) geloven. Terwijl er een grote groep was die maar zei dat er wat meer echte producten in de handel moeten zitten ipv van geld meer geld maken zonder werkelijke waarde toe te voegen. Maar door niet mee te doen aan het bouwen van die luchtkastelen sneedt je jezelf natuurlijk wel in de vingers omdat er toch meer luchtwinsten behaald werden dan in reele producten.

Als het goed gaat is in de VS geen planeconomie alleen als het mis gaat grijpt men in, dat is totaal wat anders als het altijd maar plannen zoals echte communisten doen.

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 11:53 schreef HiZ het volgende:

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Tja, er zijn natuurlijk steeds meer mensen die zich realiseren dat de situatie in het VK eigenlijk nog een beetje erger is dan in de VS.

Ik weet dat het een tijdje heeft geduurd, maar ik roep al 9 jaar dat er een dag komt dat de Britten betreuren dat ze niet in de veilige omgeving van de eurozone zijn gestapt. Ik denk dat die dag met rasse schreden dichterbij komt.

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 14:13 schreef icecreamfarmer_NL het volgende:

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not with the french

Maar het klopt wat je zegt straks ¤1= 1pound

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Bear Stearns Cos.' best asset may be the one where the firm resides: its 43-story Madison Avenue headquarters in New York City.

On Friday, traders and bankers inside the securities firm were glumly assessing the firm's value, which had fallen by 47% to just $3.48 billion in overall market capitalization. It was a sign of the times that much of their attention fell on their seven-year-old home, a 1.2-million-square-foot hub steps away from Grand Central Terminal. These buildings have been selling for as much as $1,000 a square foot, putting its value at $1.2 billion or more.

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Is Lehman Brothers next?
bloggingstocks
Posted Mar 15th 2008 8:39AM by Peter Cohan

What happened this week could be the start of something bad. As the Fed -- using JPMorgan Chase & Co. (NYSE: JPM) as its conduit -- bailed out The Bear Stearns Companies (NYSE: BSC), I was watching which banks were falling the most in sympathy. Next on the list? Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. (NYSE: LEH) whose shares lost 14.6% yesterday -- a huge drop but nothing compared to Bear Stearns's 47% decline.

What exactly is going on here? The Wall Street banks hold the cash and securities of corporations, hedge funds and other investors. If a Wall Street bank files for bankruptcy, the bankruptcy process freezes those assets so that the customers can't get access to them. Thanks to bankruptcy law, the courts get to decide which creditors will get their hands on those assets. The reason Bear Stearns failed is that its customers withdrew their funds so they would not be frozen by bankruptcy.

The Fed stepped in because -- as I suggested Thursday -- it was faced with a choice of the lesser of two evils. It chose to create a "moral hazard" by bailing out Bear Stearns over letting it fail because it thought the cost of moral hazard was less than the cost of wiping out Bear Stearns shareholders and customers and all the collateral damage (pun intended) that would ensue. So why is Lehman Brothers the next one at risk?

Well, Lehman Brothers shares fell 14.6% on Friday. And according to Reuters, it holds "extensive mortgage assets, and one credit derivatives dealer, speaking on condition of anonymity, said his bank was pulling back on its exposure to Lehman, as were his clients. Rumors of funds unwinding positions with Lehman abounded, with everybody from risk management consultants to hedge fund managers to traders having heard them."

Moreover, while Lehman reported extensive liquidity in November, Bear Stearns did as well. Specifically, Lehman had $35 billion of liquid assets, and another $160 billion of assets it could sell if it had to. Lehman said on Friday it had closed on a $2 billion, 3-year unsecured credit facility. Unfortunately, what was true in November may not be true right now. For all we know, Lehman customers could be spending the weekend frantically trying to withdraw their money.

A Lehman spokesman issued a statement bragging about its liquidity (Bear Stearns CEO did that earlier last week). "Our liquidity position has been and continues to be very strong," adding that the company's standing plan to handle liquidity is a competitive advantage. I think the Bear Stearns experience suggests that investors may need more concrete assurance of Lehman's liquidity situation.

That market does not appear convinced. Reuters reported that "the cost of protecting Lehman's obligations against default for five years surged to 465 basis points, or $465,000 a year per $10 million protected, from $400,000 the day before."

The simple reality is that there is not enough detailed, accurate, and timely information about Lehman Brothers' actual situation to judge what is going on. But I find it hard to believe that Bear Stearns was so much worse than every other firm on Wall Street that it will be the only one affected by this flight to safety.

Meanwhile, I wonder whether the Fed will bail out all these banks, and if so, can it afford to do so?

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Moreover, while Lehman reported extensive liquidity in November, Bear Stearns did as well.

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 14:53 schreef SeLang het volgende:

Ik ben eigenlijk benieuwd of er dit weekend nog een konijn uit de hoed gaat worden getoverd. Reken maar dat ze lopen te stressen daar bij de FED. Ik ben er van overtuigd dat de FED veel meer weet dan de rest van de financiele wereld en dat dit pas het topje van de ijsberg is.

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 14:53 schreef SeLang het volgende:

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Eigenlijk vat dit het wel mooi samen
Deze crisis houdt niet op totdat er openheid van zaken is:
Welke securities zijn slecht, hoe slecht, en wie heeft ze?

Ik ben eigenlijk benieuwd of er dit weekend nog een konijn uit de hoed gaat worden getoverd. Reken maar dat ze lopen te stressen daar bij de FED. Ik ben er van overtuigd dat de FED veel meer weet dan de rest van de financiele wereld en dat dit pas het topje van de ijsberg is.

Wat me blijft verbazen is het ontbreken van paniek op de financiele markten, afgezien van een paar individuele aandelen. k/w's staan notabene nog steeds boven het historisch gemiddelde en iedereen praat maar over 'kansen', 'bijkopen', 'goed instap moment' etc

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 15:18 schreef HiZ het volgende:

BTW. over het VK, niet alleen zijn hun problemen relatief groter, maar ook zijn de kwetsbaarder omdat het buiten het VK niemand echt een donder kan schelen wat er met ze gebeurd. Ze hebben zoveel out-geopt dat ze het bij een crisis lekker zelf mogen gaan oplossen. Anders dan bij de dollar hebben er niet zoveel mensen last van een melt-down van het pond.

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 15:22 schreef tony_clifton- het volgende:
Toch vind ik dat je je niet te hard moet focussen op de worst case scenario's; het zit er misschien dik in maartoch... breed blijven denken lijkt mij vooral een must...

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Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke should resign and the Fed should be abolished as a way to boost the falling dollar and speed up the recovery of the U.S. economy, investor Jim Rogers, CEO of Rogers Holdings, told CNBC Europe Wednesday.

Asked what he would do if he were in Bernanke's shoes, Rogers, who slammed the Fed for pouring liquidity in the system and accepting mortgage-backed securities as guarantees, said: "I would abolish the Federal Reserve and I would resign."

If this happened, "we don't have anybody printing money, we don't have inflation in the land, we don't have a collapsing U.S. dollar," he told "Squawk Box Europe."

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 15:22 schreef tony_clifton- het volgende:
Toch vind ik dat je je niet te hard moet focussen op de worst case scenario's; het zit er misschien dik in maartoch... breed blijven denken lijkt mij vooral een must...

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 20:18 schreef simmu het volgende:
nu heb ik toch nog een vraagje over het bear stearns verhaal. volgens reuters komt de ellende omdat er in londen op vrijdag opeens een soort 'ban' op BS kwam: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1439947820080314

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en JPMorgan hangt nu de redder in nood uit, terwijl die in londen niet meer wilde handelen en er wordt nu nu fijn onderhandeld over 'permanente financiering'. ben ik nu gek, of klinkt dit alles gewoon niet helemaal bijster kosher? misschien zie ik het ietwat simplistisch hoor...

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 19:08 schreef ItaloDancer het volgende:
Joe Lewis
On September 10, 2007, he was in the news for paying $860.4 million for a 7 percent stake in Bear Stearns that made him the brokerage firm's largest shareholder.

Nu waard: <250 mln $.
En dan ook nog in dollar zonde man.

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Avoid Overcorrecting Economy, Bush Warns

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush on Saturday said the government must guard against going too far in trying to fix the troubled economy, cautioning that "one of the worst things you can do is overcorrect." Democrats said Bush was relying on inaction to solve the problem.
Bush, in his weekly radio address, said the recently passed program of tax rebates for families and businesses should begin to lift the economy in the second quarter of the year and have an even stronger impact in the third quarter. But he urged caution about doing more, particularly about the crisis in the housing market where prices are tumbling and home foreclosures have soared to an all-time high.

"If we were to pursue some of the sweeping government solutions that we hear about in Washington, we would make a complicated problem even worse -- and end up hurting far more homeowners than we help," the president said.

The economy has surpassed the Iraq war as the No. 1 concern among voters in this presidential election year amid big job losses, soaring fuel costs, a credit crisis and turmoil on Wall Street.

"In the long run, we can be confident that our economy will continue to grow, but in the short run, it is clear that growth has slowed," Bush said. He was spending the weekend at the Camp David presidential retreat in Maryland's Catoctin Mountains after delivering a speech in New York about the economy and helping raise $1.4 million for the national Republican Party.

Democrats said they would try to strengthen the economy with measures dealing with housing, energy efficiency and renewable energy.

"The president continues to convince himself that inaction is the cure-all for the economic problems hurting hardworking Americans," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said in a written statement. "But Democrats know that wait-and-see is not a responsible strategy for an economy that is teetering on the brink of recession."

"Wages and home values are down," Reid said, "but prices for everything from health care to tuition to energy are up. Just this week, oil and gas prices reached record highs while the value of the dollar reached historic lows. I hope the president, who has been slow to acknowledge this problem, joins us in recognizing how urgently we need a solution."

Bush said he opposed several measures pending on Capitol Hill to deal with the housing crisis. They included proposals to allocate $400 billion to purchase foreclosed-upon and now-abandoned homes, to change the bankruptcy code to allow judges to adjust mortgage rates and to artificially prop up home prices.

"Many young couples trying to buy their first home have been priced out of the market because of inflated prices," the president said. "The market now is in the process of correcting itself, and delaying that correction would only prolong the problem."

Bush said his administration has offered steps offering flexibility for refinancing to homeowners with good credit histories yet are having trouble paying their mortgage. He cited other measures which he said would streamline the process for refinancing and modify many mortgages.

He said there were steps Congress could take, as well.

"As we take decisive action, we will keep this in mind: When you are steering a car in a rough patch, one of the worst things you can do is overcorrect," the president said.

"That often results in losing control and can end up with the car in a ditch," Bush said. "Steering through a rough patch requires a steady hand on the wheel and your eyes up on the horizon. And that's exactly what we're going to do."

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 11:48 schreef freud het volgende:

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Wat me best opvalt, is dat de gemiddelde nederlander echt geen idee heeft van wat er speelt. Soort van een tsunami die er aan komt en men ligt lekker te zonnen met de voetjes naar de zee, en vertellend hoe rustig het is. Werk zelf bij een importeur van twee automerken, en daar beseft men echt niet dat er zwaar weer aankomt door die geintjes in de VS. Gelukkig ben ik er over 2 maandjes weg .

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 20:43 schreef SeLang het volgende:
Dus een doemdenker ben ik zeker niet. Alle problemen zullen uiteindelijk worden opgelost. Maar ik denk wel dat we een dip te wachten staan die wat groter is dan we de laatste jaren gewend waren.

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 15:35 schreef Perrin het volgende:
Jim Rogers: 'Abolish the Fed'
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Quantum's Jim Rogers says US 'out of control'

Leo Lewis, Asia Business Correspondent

Jim Rogers - who co-founded the now closed Quantum Fund with George Soros - told 750 global fund managers in Tokyo today that, America is “completely out of control”, there will be a 20-year bull market in commodities and that prices will be in turmoil.

And he also warned that it “made sense” if global competition for resources ended in armed conflict.

Mr Rogers told delegates to the CLSA investment forum that the prices of all agricultural products would “explode” in coming years and that the price of gold, which hit an all-time high of $964 an ounce yesterday, will continue its surge to as much as $3,500 an ounce.

Gold would continue to rise, the analyst Christopher Wood told fund managers, “because it is the exact opposite of a structured finance product”.

In a blistering attack on US monetary policy and the “helicopter cash drop” responses of the Federal Reserve, Mr Rogers described the American dollar as a “terribly flawed currency”.

He said that the plan by Ben Bernanke, the Fed Chairman, to “crank up the money-printing machines and run them until we run out of trees” had exposed America’s weakest point to her rivals and enemies.

The dollar may have declined recently, he added, “but you ain’t seen nothing yet”.

Talking to a room almost exclusively populated with Japan-focused equity investors, Mr Rogers recommended an immediate language course in Mandarin and a switch into commodities — the second-biggest market in the world behind foreign exchange.

Mr Rogers said that historic drains on wheat, corn and other soft commodity inventories have created market dynamics that could lead to severe food shortages.

The outlook over the next two decades would see prices of everything from cotton and sugar to lead and nickel “going through the roof”.

Heavily playing down the prospects of a big recovery in Japan, Mr Rogers said that the country’s demographics — as the fastest-ageing country in the world — would cause it greater problems and an ever-diminishing quality of life for ordinary Japanese.

But he also said that other countries — including Britain, Italy, China and the US — should take note of what their own demographics would look like without the effect of immigration.

“Japan will be the perfect laboratory for the world to watch how a demographic crisis plays out,” he said.

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A Wall Street Domino Theory

Bron : NY-times

The Federal Reserve’s unusual decision to provide emergency assistance to Bear Stearns underscores a long-building concern that one failure could spread across the financial system.

Timothy F. Geithner, president of the New York Fed.


Wall Street firms like Bear Stearns conduct business with many individuals, corporations, financial companies, pension funds and hedge funds. They also do billions of dollars of business with each other every day, borrowing and lending securities at a dizzying pace and fueling the wheels of capitalism.

The sudden collapse of a major player could not only shake client confidence in the entire system, but also make it difficult for sound institutions to conduct business as usual. Hedge funds that rely on Bear to finance their trading and hold their securities would be stranded; investors who wrote financial contracts with Bear would be at risk; markets that depended on Bear to buy and sell securities would screech to a halt, if they were not already halted.

“In a trading firm, trust is everything,” said Richard Sylla, a financial historian at New York University. “The person at the other end of the phone or the trading screen has to believe that you will make good on any deal that you make.”

Commercial banks, mutual fund companies and other big financial firms with deep pockets would presumably weather such turmoil. Firms that traded extensively with Bear Stearns could be at great risk if the bank failed.

For individual customers, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation insures deposits up to $100,000. Furthermore, when a Wall Street firm fails, the Securities Investor Protection Corporation steps in to take over customer accounts.

The Fed’s action was intended simply to keep the financial markets functioning. Since various trading markets seized up in August, credit conditions have steadily worsened, and interest rate cuts, the main tool central bankers use to bolster the economy, have become less effective.

Policy makers anticipated some of the problems now affecting the financial world. In 2006 and 2007, Timothy F. Geithner, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, asked major Wall Street institutions to gauge the impact on their portfolios if a large bank failed.

The volume of financial contracts that are not traded on any major exchanges has ballooned in recent years after the bailout of a big hedge fund, Long-Term Capital Management, in 1998. Now, much of the trading in derivative contracts tied to stocks and bonds takes place in unregulated transactions between financial institutions.Policy makers have been wrestling with questions about when and how they should provide assistance since the last major bailout of a tottering bank, Continental Illinois, in 1984. At the time, Continental was considered too big to fail without sending waves of losses through the financial system.

Regulators are facing an unprecedented and widespread deterioration in many markets. Last summer, the value of risky and exotic securities plummeted in value. Now, even top-rated securities once deemed as safe as Treasuries have hit the skids. Financial firms have written down more than $150 billion of their assets. Some analysts are predicting that losses in various credit markets will reach $600 billion.

Bear Stearns was one of the first firms to experience a direct blow from the subprime mortgage crisis when two of its hedge funds collapsed because of the declining value of mortgage-backed securities.

It is also among the biggest firms in the prime brokerage business, or the financing of hedge funds. In recent weeks, nervous fund managers have scrambled to protect themselves. Robert Sloan, who is the managing partner at S3 Partners, a financing specialist that works with hedge funds, has shifted $25 billion out of Bear Stearns accounts in the last two months, he said.

“The problem is the financing of the hedge fund industry is very concentrated and very brittle,” Mr. Sloan said. “If they go under, you will have thousands of funds frozen out,” he said, adding that everyone might then have to wait for a court to name a receiver before business could resume.

Hedge funds rely on Wall Street for a range of services from the humdrum, like holding their securities, to the critical, like providing loans they use to increase their bets. As Wall Street has buckled under multibillion-dollar write-downs, the firms have cut financing to hedge funds and asked the funds to put up more assets to back their borrowing, forcing managers to sell en masse.

This has caused a series of hedge fund blowups, including Carlyle Capital, an affiliate of the powerful private equity firm Carlyle Group; Peloton Partners, a hedge fund founded by former Goldman Sachs traders; and Drake Capital, a blue-chip fund that has been struggling.

A manager at one hedge fund that uses Bear Stearns as its prime broker said his firm had been nervously watching the situation. The manager, speaking on the condition that he or his fund not be identified, said the fund had lined up backup firms that could clear its trades and keep its portfolio, though as of Friday afternoon it had not left Bear Stearns.

Customer accounts at financial institutions are kept separate from banks’ and dealers’ own holdings to protect those funds if the broker has to seek bankruptcy protection.

But the bigger worry for hedge funds and others that do business with Bear Stearns is whether the firm will be able to honor its trades. Of particular concern are the insurance contracts known as credit default swaps in which one party agrees to guarantee interest and principal payments in case an issuer defaults on its bonds. Investors in such contracts with Bear Stearns are closely studying whether they can get out of them or have them transferred to a more stable firm.

Compounding the problem, some big investment banks this week stopped accepting trades that would expose them to Bear Stearns. Money market funds also reduced their holdings of short-term debt issued by Bear, according to industry officials.

“You get to where people can’t trade with each other,” said James L. Melcher, president of Balestra Capital, a hedge fund based in New York. “If the Fed hadn’t acted this morning and Bear did default on its obligations, then that could have triggered a very widespread panic and potentially a collapse of the financial system.”

Already, investors are considering whether another firm might face financial problems. The price for insuring Lehman Brothers’ debt jumped to $478 per $10,000 in bonds on Friday afternoon, from $385 in the morning, according to Thomson Financial. The cost for Bear debt was up to $830, from $530.

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Op zondag 16 maart 2008 06:13 schreef popolon het volgende:
Ja da's Engels, daar begrijp ik niks van.

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Op zondag 16 maart 2008 10:20 schreef Basp1 het volgende:
Waarom boekt de ene firma het af als credit loss en de andere als write down?

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Op zondag 16 maart 2008 10:10 schreef SeLang het volgende:
Tussenstand verliezen op subprime per 14 maart 2008 (in miljarden US$)
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Op zondag 16 maart 2008 08:27 schreef indahnesia.com het volgende:
Leuk, al die 'achtergrond'-artikelen die eigenlijk wereldnieuws moeten zijn. Wanneer komt het moment dat een grote omvallende bank wereldnieuws is? Lijkt me wel nodig, want de bewustwording is er niet echt. Zelfs Indonesische banken zijn meer te vertrouwen dan die in de VS zo onderhand

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... potential bidders for Bear have been narrowed to ... J.C. Flowers and JPMorgan Chase

... bankers have now come to the conclusion that a deal must be done by Monday ...

If there's no deal Bear Stearns will have to file for bankruptcy, executives said.

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Op zondag 16 maart 2008 10:32 schreef Drugshond het volgende:

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Oe... heb je hier een linkje van.

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Op zondag 16 maart 2008 10:35 schreef gronk het volgende:

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U vraag, er wordt gedraaid: op CNBC
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Op zondag 16 maart 2008 10:48 schreef SeLang het volgende:
Lachen: Google-Ads genereert advertenties onder dit topic:

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Is George Soros right that economy is doomed?

Richard Woods

When George Soros says that the world is facing its worst financial crisis since the second world war, businessmen, politicians and the public pay attention. This, after all, is the man who famously made $1 billion betting against the pound in 1992.

The 77-year-old investor issued his dire warning at the World Economic Forum in Davos last week amid increasing volatility in the world financial markets, but before the huge losses at Société Générale had become public.

“The current crisis is not only the bust that follows the housing boom,” he said. “It’s basically the end of a 60-year period of continuing credit expansion.”

Now the party is grinding to a halt and the hangover will be a humdinger. “Credit expansion must now be followed by a period of contraction,” he claimed. “A recession in the developed world is now more or less inevitable.” The effect was likely to be contagious and infect the whole globe. It was, he concluded, the “end of an era”.

So is the world poised on the edge of an abyss? Or is Soros too gloomy by half?

Not everyone believes that pain for the financial suits inevitably spells trouble for the wider world.

“Purely from the point of view of the financial markets, there is probably more turbulence on a wider scale than ever before,” said Professor Willem Buiter of the London School of Economics and a former member of the Bank of England’s monetary policy committee.

“But you should not listen only to the anguish and pain of Wall Street. They are getting hammered. They are one of two sectors in the US that have expanded beyond sustainable levels: the financial sector and the housing sector. Both have to contract.

“But it is not yet Main Street. I don’t expect anything catastrophic.” There is still a chance, he believes, that the US will escape recession.

Others point out that western economies have weathered previous financial crises with remarkable resilience. “In 1987 on Black Monday stock markets fell about 20%,” said Gabriel Stein, a director of Lombard Street Research, a leading economic consultancy. “So [the present turmoil] is certainly not the biggest stock market fall. Looking back, we now know that 1987 was the buying opportunity of a lifetime.”

Though Stein agrees there are serious problems, especially in banking systems and credit markets, he remains sanguine about the ability of free economies to adjust and recover. They did so after the American savings and loan crisis of the 1980s, the Asian financial crisis of 1997-99 and the bursting of the dotcom bubble in 2000.

“George Soros is very much given to exaggeration. There will be problems. [But] the world economy will survive,” Stein said.

Other experts may not entirely buy the Soros vision, but they do increasingly believe that the US and UK economies are heading into storms.

“There’s a very high risk of recession in the UK and in the US, and the eurozone will see a sharp slowdown later this year,” warned David Owen, chief European economist at Dresdner Kleinwort bank. The big danger in the UK is the housing market. Experience shows that downturns in housing markets tend to last for years, he said, and the latest figures show mortgage approvals in Britain are down 40% on a year ago.

The stock markets are already in a volatile state. One day share prices plummet on fears of further financial woes and wider recession. The next they soar on the back of lower interest rates and hopes of escape. The reality is nobody is sure how bad things are.

“A lot depends on how serious the problems in the financial sector are,” said Roger Bootle, economic adviser to Deloitte. “Heaven knows what else is going to crawl out of the woodwork.

“It’s not just going to be confined to sub-prime mortgages. It’s going to be prime mortgages, nonmortgages, consumer debt, commercial property lending, corporate debt . . . people are going to be surprised.

“But that’s what happens when you get the unwinding of a massive asset boom simultaneously with a slowing economy.”

This unwinding of the financial boom will hit ordinary consumers, he says. The economy will slow and unemployment will rise. “But it will be modest - a couple of hundred thousand maybe - compared with what we have seen in the past.”

While individuals will feel the squeeze, greater shifts will take place on a global level. Through the turmoil, relative wealth and power are moving from West to East. “The crisis accelerates the shift in economic weight and power to the Gulf and to the East,” said Buiter. “The new moneybags, the sovereign wealth funds and others in the Far East and the Gulf are going to buy up large chunks of prime assets in the West.

“It will undoubtedly be accompanied by a shift in political and diplomatic power. The US will never again be what it was in 2000, or what it felt it was.”

So in that sense, maybe it is the end of an era.

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Op zondag 16 maart 2008 10:42 schreef SeLang het volgende:

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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601208&sid=axW.W8dqt1xA&refer=finance

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 23:08 schreef en_door_slecht het volgende:

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Ik kan het me ook niet anders voorstellen dan dat er nog forse klappen gaan vallen. Om te beginnen zijn er de huizen in de VS. Een huis van $200.000 is nu $180.000 waard. Maar binnen nu en 3 tot 4 jaar is dat huis ergens tussen de 90.000 en 120.000 waard. Daar kun je vergif op innemen, want de gestegen huizenprijzen in de VS zijn (bijna) puur speculatief.
Het vet lijkt er nu na 10% daling van de prijzen bij de meeste financiële instellingen wel ongeveer af te zijn. Oke, daarin is ook meegenomen dat de prijzen nog wat verder zullen dalen en mensen niet goed terug kunnen betalen, maar nog lang niet alle pijn is geleden, lang niet.
En China? Ik ben blij dat ik geen Chinees ben. Ik vraag me af hoe lang die zonder crisis door kunnen gaan. En of een economische crisis daar wellicht ook een politieke kan worden.

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SAN FRANCISCO (Menafn - MarketWatch) -- Expectations that Federal Reserve next week will cut rates by a full percentage point, to 2%, gained traction among economists and traders Friday after a bailout of Bear Stearns Cos. revealed more fault lines in the U.S. financial system.

Citigroup economists said they anticipate Fed policy-makers will lower the federal funds rate by a point to 2% next week from the current 3%, "and more cannot be ruled out."

"Aggressive action is needed to stabilize the financial setting," according to economists in a research report led by Citi's Robert DiClemente. The decision by the New York Fed and JPMorgan Chase & Co. JPM to provide financing to Bear Stearns BSC "underscores the current fragility of the system."

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The U.S. is at the receiving end of a massive margin call: Across the economy, wary lenders are demanding that borrowers put up more collateral or sell assets to reduce debts.

Global investors are pulling money from the U.S., steepening the decline of the U.S. dollar and sending it below 100 yen for the first time in a dozen years. Against a trade-weighted basket of major currencies, the dollar has fallen 14.3% over the past year, according to the Federal Reserve. Yesterday it hit another record low against the euro, falling 2.1% this week to close at 1.567 dollars per euro.

Lenders and investors are pushing up the interest rates they demand from financial institutions seen as solid just a few months ago, or demanding that they sell assets and come up with cash. Banks and Wall Street firms are so wary about each other that they're pulling back. Financial markets, anticipating that the Fed will cut rates sharply on Tuesday to try to limit the depth of a possible recession, are questioning the central bank's commitment or ability to keep inflation from accelerating.

"Clearly, the whole world is focused on the financial crisis and the U.S. is really the epicenter of the tension," says Carlos Asilis, chief investment officer at Glovista Investments, an advisory firm based in New Jersey. "As a result, we're seeing capital flow out of the U.S."

That is a troubling prospect for a savings-short, debt-heavy economy that relies on $2 billion a day from abroad to finance investment. It is raising the specter of the long-feared crash in the dollar that could further rattle financial markets and boost U.S. interest rates.

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These are serious times in financial markets. The emergency funding given to Bear Stearns, the troubled American investment bank, shows just how bad it is.

All banks are running for cover. They are frantically trying to build up their balance sheets and eliminate risk. They are not prepared to lend to each other and the biggest concern they have is not one of liquidity, but solvency. That is why Bear Stearns was left high and dry.

The most optimistic interpretation is that the collapse of Bear Stearns is the big casualty we have all been waiting for, and that we will now see a period of consolidation among financial institutions.

The pessimistic view is that the Bear Stearns episode is the equivalent of a fall from a mountain top to a slippery ledge, and there is a greater tumble to come.

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Wall Street is bracing itself for another week of roller-coaster trading after more than $300bn (£150bn) was wiped off the US equity markets on Friday following the emergency funding package put together by the Federal Reserve and JPMorgan Chase to rescue Bear Stearns.

One UK economist warned that the world is now close to a 1930s-like Great Depression, while New York traders said they had never experienced such fear. The Fed's emergency funding procedure was first used in the Depression and has rarely been used since.

A Goldman Sachs trader in New York said: "Everyone is in a total state of shock, aghast at what is happening. No one wants to talk, let alone deal; we're just standing by waiting. Everyone is nervous about what is going to emerge when trading starts tomorrow."

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March 16 (Bloomberg) -- With Bear Stearns Cos.' temporary rescue in place, the $200 billion subprime crisis joins the history of government bailouts to preserve jobs, homes and savings when economic disaster looms.

Ever since Treasury Secretary William Gibbs McAdoo shut the New York Stock Exchange for four months in 1914, to prevent foreign investors from cashing out and throwing the U.S. into financial chaos at the outset of World War I, American policy makers routinely have suspended their support for free markets when confronted by economic peril.

``I think the systemic risks dominate right now, which means you've got to put your finger in the dike,'' says William Silber, a finance professor at New York University's Stern School of Business. He is the author of ``When Washington Shut Down Wall Street: The Great Financial Crisis of 1914 and the Origins of America's Monetary Supremacy'' (Princeton University Press, 232 pages, $27.95).

Bailouts can buy time while policy makers try to defuse panic. Last week, the Federal Reserve Bank of New York provided financial support for Bear Stearns, the fifth-largest U.S. securities firm. It faced eroding investor confidence in the fallout from losses related to securities based on mortgages to the least creditworthy borrowers.

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It took a little digging, but I found it.

The real reason why the Fed panicked and, through Pigman JPM, bailed out Bear Stearns in the first such action since the previous Great Depression.

And here it is:

No matter how far down they bury it, it is still smoking.

That link is to their 2007 SEC 10k filing. Tucked away, well out of view on page 80, is the cold, hard truth as to why they were saved, and will be absorbed--amoeba like--into the belly of JPM.

Are you ready to hear the reason?

Can you handle it?

Are you sure?

Okay, here goes.

Bear Stearns has outstanding derivatives positions with counterparties totalling:

Thirteen trillion dollars.

That's right. Thirteen trillion.

Trillion.

With a "T".

No wonder they couldn't be allowed to fail.

And no wonder that JPM is being chosen to bail out Bear. Not because, as stated, JPM "clears Bear's trades" (which seems odd since Bear claims to be a clearing agent itself), but rather because JPM is already the largest derivatives house (with about $70 trillion or so in positions at last count) and acts as the bagman for the Fed/feds financial shenanigans.

So, now we know the truth. That truth being that we just came within a whisker of a complete, worldwide, systemic, financial derivatives meltdown.

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Op zondag 16 maart 2008 14:40 schreef Perrin het volgende:
Interview minister van financiën VS, filmpje:
Paulson is q-q-q-quite confident everything will turn out fine

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Op zondag 16 maart 2008 21:56 schreef SeLang het volgende:
Hoe veilig is het geld van Fok!-ers eigenlijk?

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Op zondag 16 maart 2008 21:56 schreef SeLang het volgende:
Hoe veilig is het geld van Fok!-ers eigenlijk?

Omdat ik deze shit allang aan zag komen heb ik al een jaar geleden de overgrote meerderheid van mijn spaargeld van de bank (voornamelijk ING) gehaald en in NL staatobligaties gestopt omdat die niet bij de boedel van de bank horen en dus buiten een eventueel faillisement blijven.

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Op zondag 16 maart 2008 21:56 schreef SeLang het volgende:
Hoe veilig is het geld van Fok!-ers eigenlijk?

Omdat ik deze shit allang aan zag komen heb ik al een jaar geleden de overgrote meerderheid van mijn spaargeld van de bank (voornamelijk ING) gehaald en in NL staatobligaties gestopt omdat die niet bij de boedel van de bank horen en dus buiten een eventueel faillisement blijven.

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Op zondag 16 maart 2008 22:07 schreef digitaLL het volgende:

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Ik zit cash bij fortis,aegon, en voor een groot deel in goud op een goudrekening bij ABN. Als de crisis verergert ga fysiek goud kopen bij Kevelam in Garderen. Ik vroeg bij Kevelam om een goudrekening via hun te faciliteren enkele maanden terug. ZIj deden dat in het verleden maar zijn daar mee gestopt omdat zij de banken al niet meer vertrouwen.

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Op zondag 16 maart 2008 21:50 schreef gronk het volgende:
Een gedeelte van de credietcrisis in een stripje:
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(ow, en zoals iemand opmerkte: 'wat de washington post vergeet te vermelden is dat het hedge fund *altijd* z'n geld krijgt. ')

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JPMorgan closes in on buying Bear Stearns: WSJ

Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:12pm EDT
By Dan Wilchins and Joseph Giannone

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Bear Stearns Cos Inc (BSC.N: Quote, Profile, Research) is hoping to announce a deal to sell itself to JPMorgan Chase & Co (JPM.N: Quote, Profile, Research) before Asian markets open on Monday, the Wall Street Journal reported on Sunday, as the investment bank struggles to save itself.

Bear Stearns, the fifth-largest U.S. investment bank, could sell itself for around $2.2 billion, the newspaper reported. That would amount to less than $20 a share.

The low sale price, equal to about two-thirds the company's $30.85 closing share price on Friday, signals just how dire the situation is for the 85-year-old investment bank.

Bear Stearns' cash reserves were drained by nervous trading partners Thursday, and it received a bailout from the Federal Reserve on Friday. The lifeline, extended through JPMorgan Chase, was intended to give Bear 28 days to get its house in order.

But even with that lifeline, customers fled on Friday, and will likely continue to do so without news regarding takeover talks, analysts said.

"They have to announce something sooner rather than later," said Jim Huguet, portfolio manager at Great Companies LLC in Tampa, Florida, which does not own Bear Stearns shares.

JPMorgan Chase, the third largest U.S. bank and one of the few global banks relatively unscathed by the credit crunch, is looking to limit some liabilities in acquiring Bear Stearns, the Wall Street Journal reported.

Bear Stearns has complicated mortgage bond and credit derivative assets on its balance sheet, and valuing them could be difficult. Bear may also face legal liability from soured subprime mortgage bonds it sold, analysts said.

Those complex liabilities could slow down the progress of any talks, which is why one analyst in Boston, speaking on condition of anonymity, said he suspects Bear Stearns will soon announce it is in advanced talks with a buyer rather than actually signing a deal.

Private equity firm JC Flowers & Co, which has snapped up distressed banks, also is in the mix, the New York Times reports. Representatives for JPMorgan, Bear Stearns, and Flowers were not immediately available for comment.

CRISIS OF CONFIDENCE

JPMorgan, an institution that has stepped in to rescue banks for more than a century, at the least is expected to purchase Bear's sizable prime brokerage unit, a person familiar with the situation told Reuters on Friday.

Investors lost confidence in Bear in recent weeks, because it is the smallest of the major investment banks and, at the same time, renowned as an aggressive trader in credit and mortgage markets. Bear generates a much bigger percentage of its revenue from the U.S. fixed income markets than its competitors.

In a classic run on the bank, traders last week stopped doing business with Bear because they feared the firm might go bust, draining cash and making a collapse all the more likely.

Given that lack of confidence, it would be more difficult for Bear to remain in business and rebuild, even if can raise capital or minimize its losses.

But the Federal Reserve is unlikely to allow Bear to fail, for fear it could trigger a chain reaction of failures. The investment bank has massive positions in interest-rate swaps, credit default swaps, and other derivatives with all of Wall Street. If it failed, a number of other banks could be hurt and investor confidence in the already fragile financial system could be further shaken.

Following previous crises, famous firms such as Kidder Peabody, Salomon Brothers and First Boston were forced to seek buyers with robust balance sheets.

Bear last week accelerated plans to announced its first quarter results to Monday, at which time Bear would also disclose it cash position, capital levels and exposures to hard-hit assets.

Analysts on average expect Bear's first quarter earnings to plunge by more than half to $1.19 a share from $3.82 a share a year ago, and revenue to shrink to $1.4 billion from $2.5 billion, Reuters Estimates said on Sunday.

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Op zondag 16 maart 2008 21:56 schreef SeLang het volgende:
Hoe veilig is het geld van Fok!-ers eigenlijk?

Omdat ik deze shit allang aan zag komen heb ik al een jaar geleden de overgrote meerderheid van mijn spaargeld van de bank (voornamelijk ING) gehaald en in NL staatobligaties gestopt omdat die niet bij de boedel van de bank horen en dus buiten een eventueel faillisement blijven.

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Op zondag 16 maart 2008 21:56 schreef SeLang het volgende:
Hoe veilig is het geld van Fok!-ers eigenlijk?

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EU must accept dollar weakness
By Martin Feldstein

Monday, Mar 17, 2008, Page 9

When the euro's value reached an all-time high of US$1.52, European Central Bank (ECB) president Jean-Claude Trichet told the media that he was concerned about its rapid appreciation and wanted to "underline" the US treasury's official policy of supporting a strong dollar. Several European finance ministers subsequently echoed a similar theme.

In reality, of course, the US does not have a dollar policy -- other than letting the market determine its value. The US government does not intervene in the foreign exchange market to support the dollar, and the US Federal Reserve's monetary policy is certainly not directed toward such a goal. Nor is the Fed specifically aiming to lower the dollar's value. Although cutting the Federal Funds interest rate from 5.25 percent last summer to 3 percent now contributes to dollar depreciation, this has been aimed at stimulating a weakening economy.

Nevertheless, all US Treasury secretaries, going back at least to Robert Rubin in the Clinton administration, have repeated the mantra that "a strong dollar is good for America" whenever they were asked about the dollar's value. But, while this seems more responsive than "no comment," it says little about the course of current and future US government action.

Indeed, the Treasury's only explicit currency goal now is to press the Chinese to raise the value of the yuan, thereby reducing the dollar's global trade-weighted average. The pressure on China is, however, entirely consistent with the broader US policy of encouraging countries to allow the financial market to determine their currencies' exchange rate.

There is, of course, truth to the statement that a strong dollar benefits the US public, since it allows Americans to buy foreign products at a lower cost in dollars. But, while the declining dollar does reduce Americans' purchasing power, the magnitude of this effect is not large, because imports account for only about 15 percent of US GDP. A 20 percent dollar depreciation would therefore reduce Americans' purchasing power by only 3 percent. At the same time, the lower dollar makes US products more competitive in global markets, leading to increased exports and reduced imports.

The dollar has declined during the past two years against not only the euro but also against most other currencies, including the Japanese yen and the yuan. On a real trade-weighted basis, the dollar is down about 13 percent relative to its value in March 2006.

This improved competitiveness of US goods and services is needed to shrink the massive US trade deficit. Even with the dollar's decline and the resulting 25 percent rise in US exports in the past two years, the US still had an annualized trade deficit at the end of fourth quarter of last year of about US$700 billion (5 percent of GDP). Because US imports are nearly twice as large as US exports, it takes a 20 percent increase in exports to balance a 10 percent increase in imports. That means that the dollar must fall substantially further to shrink the trade deficit to a sustainable level.

Investors around the world want to reduce their dollar holdings for three major reasons. First, interest rates are higher on euro and British bonds than on similar US securities, making investments in those currencies more rewarding than investments in dollars.

Second, since the US has a large trade deficit that can only be cured by a more competitive dollar (while the euro-zone countries collectively have a trade surplus), investors expect a trend decline in the dollar. That predictable dollar decline makes the relative return on holding dollar bonds even lower than the interest-rate differential alone implies.

Finally, investors are adding nearly a trillion dollars worth of net dollar securities to their positions every year, thus increasing the risk of continued dollar accumulation. With a lower total yield and increased portfolio risk, it is not surprising that investors worldwide want to sell dollars.

Although individual foreign investors can sell the dollar securities that they own, they can only sell them to other foreign investors. As long as the US has a current account deficit, the stock of foreign-owned claims on the US economy must rise. But when foreign investors don't want to continue to hold dollar securities, their attempts to sell them will push down their value until the combination of reduced exposure and reduced fear of further dollar decline makes them willing to hold the outstanding stock of dollar securities.

Instead of simply wishing that the dollar would stop falling, European governments need to take steps to stimulate domestic demand to replace the loss of sales and jobs that will otherwise accompany the more competitive dollar. This is not an easy task, because the ECB must remain vigilant about rising inflation, and because many EU countries maintain large fiscal deficits.

While the ECB has limited room for maneuver, regulatory changes and revenue-neutral shifts in the tax structure (for example, a temporary investment tax credit financed by a temporary increase in the corporate tax rate) could provide the stimulus needed to offset declining net exports.

Martin Feldstein, a professor of economics at Harvard, was chairman of former US president Ronald Reagan's Council of Economic Advisers.

http://www.taipeitimes.co(...)008/03/17/2003405950

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Op zondag 16 maart 2008 23:18 schreef Stereotomy het volgende:
Ik heb mijn geld op een spaarrekening van de DSB Bank. Nu ik dit zo typ, bekruipt me het gevoel dat dit niet zo slim klinkt.

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Instead of simply wishing that the dollar would stop falling, European governments need to take steps to stimulate domestic demand to replace the loss of sales and jobs that will otherwise accompany the more competitive dollar.

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Fed Must Buy Securities to Halt Crisis
,Cambiar's Barish Says

By Christine Harper

March 16 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Federal Reserve must start buying or borrowing mortgage-related securities from banks and brokers to forestall an economic disaster, said Brian Barish, who helps manage $8 billion at Cambiar Investors LLC.

``The Great Depression was caused by a failure by the Fed to respond to a crisis of somewhat similar character,'' Barish, president of Denver-based Cambiar, said in an interview yesterday. ``We better get the right policy real quick or you could just have a situation that should have been a run-of-the- mill recession turn into something worse.''
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The chances of getting through this in my opinion without using taxpayer dollars are slim to none,'' Barish said.