Aan de andere kant...... met welk puntensysteem zou Hamilton nu niet 1ste staan?quote:Op vrijdag 18 mei 2007 11:34 schreef sanger het volgende:
Ik kan me de gedachtengang van Ferrari wel indenken. Je wint meer dan de rest, en toch sta je pas derde/tweede in het kampioenschap.
quote:Op vrijdag 18 mei 2007 11:44 schreef vosss het volgende:
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Die rooie moeten gewoon niet zeiken en Kimi een degelijke auto onder zn kont duwen
lees: Ferrari tegen te werken omdat ze lichtjaren vooruitwaren op de concurrentiequote:Op vrijdag 18 mei 2007 11:32 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:
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Was het puntensysteem niet onlangs al veranderd om het kampioenschap eerlijker en competatiever te maken?
Op zich heeft het wel wat natuurlijk. Kun je vlak langs de baan zitten zónder oordoppen en nog rustig een telefoongesprekje voeren tijdens de race ook!quote:Op vrijdag 18 mei 2007 12:41 schreef Kill_em_all het volgende:
V6 motoren... Kunnen we net zo goed WTCC gaan kijken over een tijdje... Nog ff en ze rijden in Fiat Panda's rond.
quote:Hamilton success sparks civil war
Edward Gorman, Motor Racing Correspondent
There are increasing signs that Fernando Alonso is struggling to cope with the threat posed by Lewis Hamilton, his McLaren Mercedes teammate, and that what was briefly a master-pupil relationship is rapidly turning into out-and-out rivalry.
Alonso has been outdriven by Hamilton in three of the four races so far this season and after the rookie’s fourth successive podium finish at the Spanish Grand Prix last Sunday, Alonso, the double world champion, finds himself trailing the championship-leading Briton by two points in the drivers’ rankings.
After finishing third in Barcelona, Alonso tried to play down claims that he fears Hamilton more than anyone else as he battles for a third consecutive world title. “Lewis is still my teammate. I look at him the same way I look at Kimi Raik-konen or Felipe Massa [of Ferrari]: an opponent for the championship . . . but he [Hamilton] is the one who worries me least because he is my teammate and we are here to help each other,” he said.
There is no doubt, however, that Alonso is feeling the pressure. He has looked tense at race weekends whereas Hamilton’s confidence has steadily increased and Alonso has appeared embarrassed at key moments, for example when the two men appeared before the media after Hamilton had qualified ahead of him in Bahrain.
On two occasions members of Alonso’s inner circle have walked out of the McLaren garage during qualifying – his manager did so in Malaysia, citing the pro-Hamilton atmosphere among McLaren’s British mechanics, and Alonso’s wife did so in Spain, inflaming speculation that the Spaniard believes the team is too focused on Hamilton.
One observer close to the McLaren team told The Times yesterday that he was surprised by Alonso’s reaction to Hamilton. “I am surprised this is happening so early. You would have thought Fernando would handle it better,” he said. “Fernando is getting very worked up about what he feels is a Spaniard coming to an English team and facing an English driver who is clearly the protégé of Ron Dennis [the McLaren team principal].
“He’s become extremely sensitive about this – more sensitive than you’d expect in a double world champion who might be expected to trust that he will prevail over the whole season. He’s clearly unsettled – it’s a classic case of a driver who has never had a teammate who can push him and who possibly has the same ability as him.”
Fuel to the fire are claims this week that Alonso demanded that McLaren allow only him and Pedro de la Rosa, the McLaren test driver, to drive at the four-day test in Barcelona before last Sunday’s race. It is not known whether Hamilton was originally scheduled to drive at the test, but his exclusion raised eyebrows in the paddock.
Ellen Kolby, the McLaren spokeswoman, denied that there was any significance in the choice of drivers at the test. “Lewis might have been due to drive, he might not have been,” she said. “They keep changing who is driving to fit in with the engineering schedule. I think too much is being read into the situation.”
The next race is in Monaco where Alonso won last year for Renault. Hamilton is gunning for his first victory and believes he can achieve it there a week on Sunday. In two “Monaco” days of testing this week at the Paul Ricard circuit in France – the track was set up to help the drivers practise for Monaco’s tight and twisting corners – Hamilton was quickest on both days, though this time it was Alonso who was absent.
Bronquote:Renault :: Alonso gaat aan zichzelf twijfelen
Steve Nielsen is van mening dat de prestaties van McLaren Mercedes-coureur Lewis Hamilton ertoe zullen leidden dat zijn Spaanse teamgenoot Fernando Alonso bij zichzelf te rade zal gaan betreffende zijn eigen kunnen en talent.
“In zijn racecarrière is hij altijd stukken sneller geweest dan zijn teamgenoten, en nu heeft hij iemand tegenover zich staan die gelijk is, als hij misschien niet iets sneller is zoals we in de races tot nu toe hebben gezien”, zo vertelde hij in een vraaggesprek met de persafdeling van zijn Franse werkgever ING Renault.”
“Ik denk dat hij diep in zijn hart de vraag zal stellen of hij nu echt sneller is dan zijn teamgenoot, en ik denk dat het zal resulteren in zelftwijfel”, zo vervolgt de Brit. “Het aantal keren dat we Fernando echt onder druk hebben gezien was toen zijn teamgenoot hem versloeg. Hij zit nu in een zelfde soort situatie.”
Uitvoerend directeur van de engineering, Pat Symonds, liet weten verbaasd te zijn toen Hamilton de wereldkampioen versloeg in Bahrein en Spanje: “Alleen een moedig man – maar waarschijnlijk een niet al te eerlijk man – had van te voren kunnen voorspellen dat Lewis Fernando een moeilijk tijd zou geven. Ik had het zeker niet kunnen zeggen, en het is een grote verrassing geworden.”
“We dachten allemaal dat hij redelijk goed zou zijn. We hadden hem in de GP2 gezien en we wisten dat Ron [Dennis, red.] veel vertrouwen in hem had. Die jongen had iets speciaals”, vervolgt Symonds. “Hier bij Renault weten we precies hoe Fernando is. We weten waar Lewis tegen moet vechten, en om tegen hem te vechten en gelijk aan hem te zijn, is voor mij absoluut verbazend.”
quote:THE MOLE : A document changes hands
MAY 18, 2007
The Mole's agent Dusty Road, named after an ice cream sundae at Fortnum & Mason, had been quiet for a long time but one day The Mole received a postcard addressed to Mr WH Smith at the Barristers Benevolent Association, one of his "letterboxes".
This was the signal that Dusty wanted a rendez-vous. The card had only a list of six numbers, followed by a date and a time. The Mole knew that the numbers indicated the volume, the page, the column and the line from the Yellow Pages which would indicate the address of the meeting. After decoding the message The Mole discovered that he was to meet Dusty at Getti, a fancy Italian place on Marylebone High Street, where they make a marvellous green pea-flavoured risotto. The Mole was delighted. It was a very suitable venue.
Dusty is a little paranoid and has been known to turn up at meetings wearing a fake moustache, which makes him look like a bank manager pretending to be a Mexican bandit, but on this occasion he came disguised as an American tourist, wearing a teeshirt that said simply "W rocks". He had a camera slung around his neck and a guidebook in his hand.
Where the disguise failed was that his accent was straight out of Brasenose College, Oxford, but he did not seem to think this was a problem
"So what's the scoop?" asked The Mole, as he nibbled a grissino to death.
Dusty looked around him furtively and slid a piece of paper from his pocket.
"And you didn't get this from me," he said.
"Didn't get what?" said The Mole and slipped the paper into his pocket. "I don't know what you are talking about."
The Mole guessed that it was the proposals that Max Mosley had put forward to the car manufacturers, for 2.2-litre turbo bio-diesels in 2011.
In the cab on the way back to the office he began to read the paper.
"Executive Summary," it said. "There are two principal reasons for change: (1) The need to create a healthier commercial outlook for participants by lowering their costs; and (2) the need to react to public concern about the environment.
"The FIA will use future regulations to reduce the cost of participation in Formula 1:
"Research and development relevant only to Formula 1 will be discouraged, whereas that which has relevance to road car development will be encouraged.
"New technologies in Formula 1 will come from the mainstream R&D of major manufacturers. The result will be a justifiable and mutually beneficial way to fund the main development challenge presented for Formula 1 participation.
"Combining the need to change with the policy adopted leads to objectives which appear to have broad support among the participant manufacturers: Energy efficient power-train development will be overtly encouraged; development outside the power-train will be severely constrained; waste will be reduced by an increased requirement for longevity of components.
"This strategy now needs to evolve. How far should the FIA go on each point? The main constraint will be to avoid damage to the emotional attraction of Formula One for its fan base. In particular the technical awe of Formula 1 and its sheer speed must be retained. Step one is to develop a framework for the regulations aimed at fixing the power-train. Such a framework is put forward, but at each stage guidance is sought from the manufacturers. A detailed proposal can be drawn up quickly once these points are decided upon.
"This paper focuses on the 2011 power-train regulations only, but lists implications for the chassis, bodywork and sporting rules. Today the power-train is the determining step and must be decided before the remaining regulations can be detailed."
The Mole looked out of the window at London passing by. It seemed rather more interesting than turbo bio-diesels. It was true that most of the manufacturers have such engines, but these are used to power SUVs and small trucks, rather than flashy sports cars. But that did not really matter. The Coventry Climax F1 engine started out as a fire pump and did rather well.
The important thing, he thought to himself, is that the engines sound good. Fans don't want to go to a race track to listen to something that sounds like a taxi.
The engine thing was really not the problem. The problem was hidden away in the suggestion that followed that all the Formula 1 cars should have identical aerodynamics.
"That won't do," he said out loud. "This is really just NASCAR. Silhouette racing. If that is going to be the case it would be better to stop pretending that we are at the forefront of technology and stick a body on the cars and allow them to crash into each other and be driven by drooling country boys from the Deep South and F1 rejects from Colombia. You can pull in the viewers but is that what F1 is all about?"
And then it struck him. His job was to make sure that the British motorsport industry stayed healthy and grew. Bernie Ecclestone's job was to make money for himself and his partners. Max Mosley's job was to make sure that the FIA does not become an irrelevant body. The job of the team bosses was to make winning cars, built to whatever rules were in force at a given moment.
No-one had the job of protecting the sanctity of the sport.
"No-one but the media," he said. "And where are they? Too busy having lunch."
Ik denk dat een aantal Group C autos (zoals de Peugeot 905 Evo2B) een huidige F1 auto nog best zou kunnen bijhouden op de meeste cicruits.quote:Op vrijdag 18 mei 2007 18:15 schreef sanger het volgende:
Er is al eens een le Mans bolide geweest welke sneller ging dan een F1, op sommige circuits.
Die heeft wel het snelheidsrecord geloof ik...quote:Op vrijdag 18 mei 2007 19:11 schreef sanger het volgende:
Volgens mij was het de Porsche 917 trouwens.
Spyker misschien niet, maar Albers is gemiddeld toch een seconde of 2 langzamer dan Sutil; dus als Albers had gereden stond ie mooi laatstequote:
quote:Op zaterdag 19 mei 2007 02:25 schreef vosss het volgende:
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Spyker misschien niet, maar Albers is gemiddeld toch een seconde of 2 langzamer dan Sutil; dus als Albers had gereden stond ie mooi laatste
Weet ik, ongeveer een halve secondequote:
Maar dat heeft ook een reden he, want Chris heeft altijd problemen met dit en dat en de auto is niet goed blabla en de andere hebben nooit watquote:
Ik zou als teammedewerker daar ook meer op de hand van Hamilton zijn, gewoon omdat het een geweldig aardige gast isquote:Op zaterdag 19 mei 2007 02:44 schreef Atreidez het volgende:
Kan me best voorstellen dat ze bij McLaren pro Hamilton zijn, is tenslotte engels team.. Kan t dus ook wel voorstellen dat de ambiance voor de spaanse aanwezigen misschien wat te hamilton kan overkomenMaja, of Alonso zich daar nu echt druk over maakt zolang het materiaal gewoon gelijk blijft..
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Spyker misschien niet, maar Albers is gemiddeld toch een seconde of 2 langzamer dan Sutil; dus als Albers had gereden stond ie mooi laatste
Chris is uberkritisch, en dat was een Schumacher of Hill ook. Zeiken over de auto is nooit slecht.quote:Op zaterdag 19 mei 2007 13:23 schreef vingerplant het volgende:
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Maar dat heeft ook een reden he, want Chris heeft altijd problemen met dit en dat en de auto is niet goed blabla en de andere hebben nooit wat![]()
Hm, maar wel slap....quote:Op zaterdag 19 mei 2007 15:12 schreef Bernard0s het volgende:
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Chris is uberkritisch, en dat was een Schumacher of Hill ook. Zeiken over de auto is nooit slecht.
quote:Night GP or no GP for Australia
Ecclestone makes his demands
Organisers of the Australian Grand Prix have been told to stage a night race next year or forego a contract extension after the event in 2010.
The Adelaide newspaper Sunday Mail will on Sunday quote F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone as warning that only a floodlit race held after 9pm at Albert Park next March may be enough to satisfy the sport's officialdom.
"Unless they (organisers) can come up with something that's going to satisfy us I'm pretty sure we wouldn't be able to continue there," he said, not long after inking a deal with Singapore for the first ever night race in 2008.
The news is just the latest instalment in the flagging fortunes of the Melbourne race, which has suffered growing losses and declining crowd numbers and local sponsorship in recent years.
Ecclestone said GP boss Ron Walker knows about his demands for a night race.
"Ron is not stupid and he knows exactly what is at stake," the 76-year-old Briton said, although an insider at the Australian Grand Prix Corporation warned that it is unlikely to happen.
"To have Formula One cars hooning around Albert Park at 9pm won't go down well with the locals and it's a family event, so afternoon is obviously the ideal time," the unnamed insider said.
A Victorian government spokesman, however, insisted: "We will be seeking to keep the event in Melbourne."
moet je dinsdag ff kijken in a.b.multimedia.sportsquote:Op zaterdag 19 mei 2007 22:18 schreef Tackleberry het volgende:
ik moet ook nog het tweede deel van de race kijken in verband met vakantie, dus ik ga ook nog even kijken of ik die dvd ergens kan vinden
Ik weet niet of ik zo lang kan wachtenquote:Op zaterdag 19 mei 2007 22:24 schreef WEST het volgende:
moet je dinsdag ff kijken in a.b.multimedia.sports![]()
Je mistte een race die vooral bestond uit domme fouten... Dat maakte deze race niet saaiquote:Op zaterdag 19 mei 2007 22:49 schreef Tackleberry het volgende:
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Ik weet niet of ik zo lang kan wachten
quote:Magny Cours must rejuvenate itself
Interview with the FFSA General Manager
The French Grand Prix is in danger of disappearing as the Magny-Cours circuit presently used is no longer up to Formula One standards. Bernie Ecclestone himself hinted several weeks ago that a relocation would be enviable as things now stand, if not an outright removal of France from the F1 calendar.
Éric Barbaroux, the General manager of the FFSA (French Motorsport Federation) has not given up and still believes that everything remains possible.
What type of contract has been signed between the FFSA and Bernie Ecclestone?
ERIC BARBAROUX: Normally, our contract is in effect until 2011. The contract clearly indicates where the race must be held – Magny Cours. However, there is a clause concerning the race's standing, which allows Bernie to do whatever he wants. Maintaining standards is quite relative! If tomorrow someone asks us to build an airport 20km from the site, as they did for the Olympics... it becomes evidently difficult.
Do you believe that Magny Cours is up to today's F1 standards?
EB: The notion of standards has evolved. In 1991 with Magny Cours, we were clearly above the rest. Things have evolved and it is true that Magny Cours did not exactly keep up.
Today, when you look at the levels used for an international event like a Formula One Grand Prix, which after all comes third worldwide after the Olympic Games and the Soccer Cup, I indeed believe that we are not up to par.
Other countries have just signed contracts with Bernie Ecclestone. How do you react facing such competiton?
EB: It puts even more pressure on us, because expectations have become very high! It is a real challenge to remain within the elite countries who host an event of this size. When we see emerging nations coming up with enormous means, and who propose absolutely fantastic sites, we say that France should do the same! Bernie Ecclestone has confirmed to us that we are no longer at the right level, we must therefore react quickly.
Why did you wait for Bernie Ecclestone to push you against the wall before reacting?
EB: We must recognise that we did not anticipate enough. At the time, Magny Cours had recieved much praise. We stayed put on our laurels and did not react quickly enough to the arrival of sites like Sepang, Bahrain, Shanghai or Istanbul which have given a new dimension to F1.
Are there other sites than Magny Cours?
EB: The first objective of the FFSA is to keep the Grand Prix on national soil. The French Grand Prix is a century old and has taken place over numrous sites. Only Magny Cours can presently host a Formula One Grand Prix. Bernie has made known his wish to organise it in Paris. We are obviously obligated to work on that alternative. Things have to change by 2009, that is obvious. We want to save the event. A Grand Prix generates between 50 and 100 euros in economic activity. We do not sign for a year, but for seven! Over seven years, that therefore represents 500 to 700 million euros for the country, and it becomes a priority project!
In regards to the Grand Prix at Magny Cours, what are your short-term solutions?
We are working with local elected officials on high-level hotel projects, on new highway access, on restaurants and even on events associated with the Grand Prix.
ik ook niet, maarjaquote:Op zondag 20 mei 2007 14:28 schreef Automatic_Rock het volgende:
Magny Cours zal ik geen seconde missen als ik eerlijk ben...
quote:Op zondag 20 mei 2007 15:54 schreef WEST het volgende:
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ik ook niet, maarja
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ok, ik heb de plaatjes ook nog niet, wou er vanavond en morgenavond nog mee aan de gang.quote:Op zondag 20 mei 2007 16:56 schreef sanger het volgende:
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Je leest morgen waarom, als ik je de OP toestuur
site F1.com zelf?quote:Op maandag 21 mei 2007 01:14 schreef Flister het volgende:
weet iemand waar ik de uitzendtijden van 8-10 juni GP Canada kan vinden?![]()
Dat zou zonde zijnquote:Op zondag 20 mei 2007 22:39 schreef Sally het volgende:
Nachtrace in Monaco... Dan zie je al ie blote dames toch niet![]()
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quote:Corrupt Chinese GP boss fired
Yu Zhifei facing prosecution
The General Manager of Shanghai's Formula One circuit has been fired.
Yu Zhifei, who was instrumental in bringing the sport to China and remained the key promoter, had last October been implicated in the major corruption scandal.
According to Chinese newspapers, among other abuses Zhifei illegally used public money to buy a house.
He was also expelled from the Communist Party and is likely to be prosecuted, the English language Shanghai Daily said.
quote:Showers possible for Monaco week
Rain should clear by race day
May 21 (GMM) An uncertain week of weather should clear in time for Sunday's Monaco grand prix.
Forecasts on Monday predict that rain showers could fall for Saturday qualifying in the Principality, following a sunny first day of practice on Thursday and possible rain on market-day Friday, when the roads are reopened to the public.
"The whole town turns a bit nuts for the whole week of the GP," said resident and Williams driver Alex Wurz, "but usually it's so quiet in Monaco."
The Austrian went on: "It's a strange week, so many people come down. Rich, poor, stunning, nice, arrogant ... and some normal ones!"
quote:'I Was Always a Step Ahead of Hamilton'
Two contemporaries of rookie Lewis Hamilton insist that they are not jealous of the Briton's sensational formula one debut in 2007. Hamilton is F1's youngest ever championship leader after just four career grands prix, but Nico Rosberg says he achieved more when they went wheel-to-wheel in karts.
"I was always a step ahead of Lewis but I see the reality of formula one. My time will come," Williams' Rosberg said. The son of former world champion Keke Rosberg then grinned when he added: "I am not asked about my father anymore. Now the questions are all about Lewis!"
Anthony Davidson, meanwhile, served six years as BAR/Honda's test driver before finally being handed a chance at the racing grid with Super Aguri this year. Although the 28-year-old only helps to prop up the lower F1 midfield, however, he told the Telegraph: "I couldn't think of a better situation for my first full season.
"I have lots of experience in contemporary cars, there's no pressure and the Super Aguri team are a really good bunch of guys."
Davidson said Hamilton's success demonstrates just how "fickle" the world of formula one racing is, but insists that he is not bitter.
"It's all about luck and timing," the Briton explained. When there are only 22 cars on the grid you've got to be lucky to be in one of them. There are thousands of drivers out there who could do it. It's a matter of whether you get the chance."
quote:Adrian Sutil on Lewis Hamilton
German Formula One driver Adrian Sutil insisted on Monday he can be just as good as Championship leader Lewis Hamilton. The Spyker racer finished 13th at this month's Spanish Grand Prix, says he can be just as good as Hamilton, who dominated the 2005 F3 Euroseries championship when Sutil finished second.
Hamilton has yet to finish outside the top three after four races. But Sutil, who is enjoying more modest success in his debut Formula One campaign and is yet to win a single point, says he can match Hamilton.
"I don't think I have anything to envy when it comes to Lewis, I am sure I can be just as quick as him," he told German sports magazine Kicker. In Formula One, the driver is important, but the car makes up about 70 per cent of the performance. An average driver can win with a good car and even be world champion."
Sutil, the son of a musical conductor, nevertheless acknowledged Hamilton's considerable talent.
"Everyone can see what a good driver he is. I knew he had the talent to lead the championship while nobody thought he had much chance up against Alonso," said Sutil.
Gele kikkerquote:Op maandag 21 mei 2007 18:13 schreef Sjoerd102 het volgende:
is dus de teamtruck van Torro rosso
wist niet dat Torro Roso een gele kikker had als teamtruckquote:
Heb even het plaatje ergens anders neergezetquote:Op maandag 21 mei 2007 18:11 schreef Sjoerd102 het volgende:
Vanmiddag gespot op industrieterrein Noorderpoort in Venlo.
De chaufffeur was in geen velden of wegen te bekennen[afbeelding]
idd, hoort volgens mij toch al aardig in monaco te staan dunkt me over 3 dagen beginnen de trainingen alquote:Op maandag 21 mei 2007 19:00 schreef _Administr8or_ het volgende:
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Heb even het plaatje ergens anders neergezet
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Ik vraag me af wat die wagen in Venlo doet?
En als je van Barcelona naar Monaco rijdt, dan kom je niet echt langs/door Venloquote:Op maandag 21 mei 2007 19:07 schreef WEST het volgende:
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idd, hoort volgens mij toch al aardig in monaco te staan dunkt me over 3 dagen beginnen de trainingen al
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