Britse politiek #34 - to deal or not to deal

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 13:15 schreef Perrin het volgende:
Oei!

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 13:16 schreef trein2000 het volgende:

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Kunnen ze er nog wel bij hebben

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May tells Taoiseach that backstop could not be temporary

British Prime Minister Theresa May has told Taoiseach Leo Varadkar she accepted that the backstop to avoid a hard border on the island of Ireland post-Brexit could not be temporary, RTÉ News understands.

It is understood Mrs May acknowledged that as an insurance policy, the backstop could not be time limited, during a bilateral meeting with the Taoiseach last night, on the margins of the EU summit.

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 10:18 schreef Perrin het volgende:
België, Luxemburg, Frankrijk en Duitsland pakken nog even een terrasje naderhand:

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 15:10 schreef Hyperdude het volgende:

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Mocht Markje niet mee?
Of is die groene arm van zijn moeder?

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Op woensdag 17 oktober 2018 13:06 schreef Perrin het volgende:
De vraag is wie je blij denkt te maken met zo'n Noorwegen-achtige zachte Brexit deal.

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 15:40 schreef nostra het volgende:

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Het is veruit de populairste optie bij de bevolking en ook bij de Leavers is het met 33% een goede tweede na No Deal (39%).

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Nigel Farage says longer Brexit transition means he could fight EU election
Brexiteer hits out at suggestion that transition could be extended.

If the British government signs up to a further Brexit transition period then Nigel Farage could stay on as a member of the European Parliament, he warned Thursday.

The Brexiteer was being interviewed on Sky News from the European summit, where he discussed his displeasure with suggestions that Theresa May could sign up to a longer Brexit transition period when he came up with a short-term way around the issue.

Asked by Sky’s Adam Boulton if Article 50 could be delayed, Farage said: “Oh yes. Absolutely.”

“The gossip in the European Parliament is, oh well, Nigel, you’ll be coming back here next spring.

“The argument is, if we’re going to have a three-year transition, that would mean … that we would be a rule-taker without having any say. One way around that, from the other side’s perspective, is you suspend Article 50, the U.K. contests the next European elections. It’s a possibility.”

Asked if that means he would stand for reelection, Farage said: “I don’t want to, but it’s a possibility.”

The UKIP MEP also criticized the leadership of the Brexit talks, saying: “The problem isn’t Brexit, it is the prime minister.”

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 15:17 schreef Perrin het volgende:

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Rutte is wel de missende Noordwest-Europese regeringsleider idd. Misschien is ie ff afrekenen

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 17:09 schreef Szura het volgende:

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Trouw-verslaggever:

Asked @MinPres why he didn't join Macron, Merkel, Michel and Bettel on their cosy pub visit yesterday evening at Brussels' Grand Place. "They are in the same hotel", he replied. "Quite an expensive one." #EUCO

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 21:37 schreef Arcee het volgende:
Het lijkt me dat het uiteindelijk toch gewoon een Brexitexit wordt? Dat die hele Brexit niet doorgaat, omdat duidelijk wordt dat eigenlijk niemand er beter van wordt.

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 21:38 schreef rubbereend het volgende:
moet je dat daar wel kunnen verkopen, daar lijkt het totaal nog niet op.

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 15:10 schreef Hyperdude het volgende:

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Mocht Markje niet mee?
Of is die groene arm van zijn moeder?

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 15:40 schreef nostra het volgende:

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Het is veruit de populairste optie bij de bevolking en ook bij de Leavers is het met 33% een goede tweede na No Deal (39%).

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 23:18 schreef Arcee het volgende:

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Maar dat geldt voor elke andere optie eigenlijk ook.

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Op vrijdag 19 oktober 2018 15:36 schreef tomatenrood het volgende:

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Que? Noorwegen zit (net als Zwitserland) wel bij Schengen, dat gaat niemand in het VK goed vinden

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 14:04 schreef Perrin het volgende:


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Vertelt May nu het ene verhaal aan de ene partij en een ander verhaal aan de andere partij?

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U.K. to Drop Brexit Demand on Irish Border to Ease Deal

By Tim Ross , Ian Wishart , and Dara Doyle
19 oktober 2018 18:45 CEST
Updated on 19 oktober 2018 19:03 CEST

- The move could leave U.K. in EU customs regime indefinitely
- It’s a gamble to unlock talks, and will enrage Brexiteers

U.K. Prime Minister Theresa May is said to be ready to ditch one of her key Brexit demands in order to resolve the vexed issue of the Irish border and clear the path to a deal, according to people familiar with the matter.

The fix opens the possibility that Britain would end up bound indefinitely to the European Union’s customs rules. While that’s something that the EU and many businesses want, it risks detonating a crisis in May’s government that could even bring her down.

Until now, May has insisted that a legal guarantee to ensure no new border emerges on the island of Ireland should be strictly limited in time. May and pro-Brexit politicians in her Conservative party want an end date for the policy to avoid delaying the U.K.’s departure and to ensure the country is free from EU customs rules to strike its own trade deals around the world.

But the EU has rejected her stance and talks have been stuck for months.

Now May and her team of Brexit advisers accept the EU’s point that it must be open-ended, for an "enduring" solution, one of the people said. The proposal is for the whole U.K. to stay tied to EU customs rules as a so-called backstop -- or guarantee clause. There would also be some new checks on goods between Northern Ireland and mainland Britain.

The pound rose on the news.

The problem for pro-Brexit camp in May’s Cabinet is that what is agreed as a fix for the Irish border could morph into a long-term status quo for the whole U.K. Businesses have long called for the U.K. to remain in the customs union to ease trade with the bloc, an option EU chief negotiator Michel Barnier has repeatedly offered as a way out of the stalemate. In parliament, the main opposition Labour party is also pushing for a customs union.

The thorny question of how to avoid a hard border between the U.K. and the Irish Republic has held up progress in Brexit talks since March. Time is running out for the EU and the U.K. negotiating teams to settle the terms of the divorce and sketch out the future trading arrangements before Britain leaves the bloc on March 29.

A summit of EU leaders in Brussels this week had been billed as the moment when the exit agreement would be struck but instead broke up with major issues still unresolved. The key question remains how to come up with a backstop for the Irish border.

The new backstop would act as an open-ended insurance policy in case the overarching future trade deal between the U.K and the EU does not avert the need for customs checks at the Irish border, one person familiar with the U.K. position said.

The details still need to be worked out in the negotiating room but British and EU officials believe the plan will be acceptable to both sides, the people said.

In Brussels on Thursday, reports began to emerge that May was ready to give ground on the issue.

Irish Europe Minister Helen McEntee said May was "very clear" in saying that the backstop is an insurance mechanism and so can’t be time-limited. “You need to have it there and it can’t run out after a year or two and she very much agreed with that,” she told RTE.

May avoided giving a direct answer when asked to confirm that this was her position on Thursday. She said only that nobody wants the backstop to be necessary at all.

However, there’s still one more sticking point. The U.K. is trying to convince the EU to ditch its own proposed backstop clause -- a measure that could essentially carve Northern Ireland off from the rest of the U.K. The EU wants its clause to be included in the withdrawal treaty, even if only as a secondary, last-resort guarantee that would only be invoked if the U.K.’s clause failed.

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Op zaterdag 20 oktober 2018 08:53 schreef Perrin het volgende:
Maar hoe krijg je dat ooit in het VK verkocht?

'Ja, we betalen nog steeds aan de EU, zelfs meer dan ooit. Ja, onze grenzen staan nog steeds open. Ja, we moeten netjes hun wetten overnemen. Nee, we hebben niks meer in de EU te vertellen. Wat een deal, mensen!'

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Op zaterdag 20 oktober 2018 08:57 schreef Falco het volgende:

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Gewoon het Britse volk opnieuw oplichten, zoals ze bij dat referendum ook gedaan hebben.

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Op zaterdag 20 oktober 2018 09:04 schreef Igen het volgende:
Corbyn heeft toch gezegd dat Labour zo’n soort constructie zal steunen?