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  Redactie Frontpage zaterdag 7 juli 2018 @ 13:53:24 #26
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1s.gif Op zaterdag 7 juli 2018 13:47 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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Het volk omkopen om te voorkomen dat ze in opstand komen maakt je nog geen socialist.
Dat wordt ook niet geclaimed. Ga iemand anders trollen.
  zaterdag 7 juli 2018 @ 14:27:24 #27
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0s.gif Op zaterdag 7 juli 2018 13:53 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:

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Dat wordt ook niet geclaimed. Ga iemand anders trollen.
Je claimt dat het typisch linkse maatregelen zijn. Ik bestrijd dat.
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  Redactie Frontpage zaterdag 7 juli 2018 @ 14:29:52 #28
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Je claimt dat het typisch linkse maatregelen zijn. Ik bestrijd dat.
Oh ok, dan is universele gezondheidszorg regelen een economisch rechtse maatregel in lijn met de huidige GOP. Wat jij wil.
  zaterdag 7 juli 2018 @ 15:01:18 #29
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https://mobile.nytimes.co(...)ose-a-trade-war.html


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Trump’s declaration that “trade wars are good, and easy to win” is an instant classic, right up there with Herbert Hoover’s “prosperity is just around the corner.”

Trump obviously believes that trade is a game in which he who runs the biggest surplus wins, and that America, which imports more than it exports, therefore has the upper hand in any conflict. That’s also why Peter Navarro predicted that nobody would retaliate against Trump’s tariffs. Since that’s actually not how trade works, we’re already facing plenty of retaliation and the strong prospect of escalation.

But here’s the thing: Trump’s tariffs are badly designed even from the point of view of someone who shares his crude mercantilist view of trade. In fact, the structure of his tariffs so far is designed to inflict maximum damage on the U.S. economy, for minimal gain. Foreign retaliation, by contrast, is far more sophisticated: unlike Trump, the Chinese and other targets of his trade wrath seem to have a clear idea of what they’re trying to accomplish.

The key point is that the Navarro/Trump view, aside from its fixation on trade balances, also seems to imagine that the world still looks the way it did in the 1960s, when trade was overwhelmingly in final goods like wheat and cars. In that world, putting a tariff on imported cars would cause consumers to switch to domestic cars, adding auto industry jobs, end of story (except for the foreign retaliation.)

In the modern world economy, however, a large part of trade is in intermediate goods – not cars but car parts. Put a tariff on car parts, and even the first-round effect on jobs is uncertain: maybe domestic parts producers will add workers, but you’ve raised costs and reduced competitiveness for downstream producers, who will shrink their operations.


So in today’s world, smart trade warriors – if such people exist – would focus their tariffs on final goods, so as to avoid raising costs for downstream producers of domestic goods. True, this would amount to a more or less direct tax on consumers; but if you’re afraid to impose any burden on consumers, you really shouldn’t be getting into a trade war in the first place.

But almost none of the Trump tariffs are on consumer goods. Chad Bown and colleagues have a remarkable chart showing the distribution of the Trump China tariffs: an amazing 95 percent are either on intermediate goods or on capital goods like machinery that are also used in domestic production:

Is there a strategy here? It’s hard to see one. There’s certainly no hint that the tariffs were designed to pressure China into accepting U.S. demands, since nobody can even figure out what, exactly, Trump wants from China in the first place.

China’s retaliation looks very different. It doesn’t completely eschew tariffs on intermediate goods, but it’s mostly on final goods. And it’s also driven by a clear political strategy of hurting Trump voters; the Chinese, unlike the Trumpies, know what they’re trying to accomplish.
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  zaterdag 7 juli 2018 @ 15:02:47 #30
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15s.gif Op zaterdag 7 juli 2018 14:29 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:

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Oh ok, dan is universele gezondheidszorg regelen een economisch rechtse maatregel in lijn met de huidige GOP. Wat jij wil.
Universeel?

Onder de nazi's?
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Secretary of State Pompeo leaves North Korea with promise of more talks but no tangible breakthrough

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Secretary of State Mike Pompeo came away from a two-day visit to North Korea on Saturday without meeting North Korean leader Kim Jong Un or securing a breakthrough in efforts to implement the denuclearization agreement signed by Washington and Pyongyang in Singapore last month.

But the top U.S. diplomat — before leaving Pyongyang — said the meetings with his North Korean counterpart, Kim Yong Chol, were “productive” and he claimed progress on “central issues” between the two longtime adversaries.

His rosy outlook was almost immediately rejected by North Korea’s foreign ministry, which called the talks “regrettable” and accused the United States of making unilateral demands for denuclearization. Pompeo just hours earlier said the two sides engaged in “good-faith negotiations.”

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  zaterdag 7 juli 2018 @ 15:22:31 #32
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https://apnews.com/628db42343bf402fa69f0500644a7293

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North Korea says high-level talks with a U.S. delegation led by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo were "regrettable" and has accused Washington of trying to unilaterally pressure the country into abandoning its nukes.

The statement by an unnamed North Korean Foreign Ministry spokesman on Saturday came hours after Pompeo concluded two days of talks with North Korean officials led by Kim Yong Chol.

The statement says that the United States betrayed the spirit of last month's summit between President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un by making unilateral demands on "CVID," or the complete, verifiable and irreversible denuclearization of North Korea.

It says the outcome of the follow-up talks was "very concerning" because it has led to a "dangerous phase that might rattle our willingness for denuclearization that had been firm."
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Jeetje wat schokkend, dit zag niemand aankomen. :')
  zaterdag 7 juli 2018 @ 15:38:39 #34
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Dat gaan leuke tweets worden.
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  zaterdag 7 juli 2018 @ 15:38:54 #35
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1s.gif Op zaterdag 7 juli 2018 15:29 schreef westwoodblvd het volgende:

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Jeetje wat schokkend, dit zag niemand aankomen. :')
Gelukkig hebben ze wel een cd’tje van Rocket Man gekregen. Is toch humor man :)

:')
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  zaterdag 7 juli 2018 @ 15:48:23 #36
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1s.gif Op zaterdag 7 juli 2018 15:38 schreef Szura het volgende:

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Gelukkig hebben ze wel een cd’tje van Rocket Man gekregen. Is toch humor man :)

:')
Kim gaf deze mee aan Pompeo.


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Manafort bank fraud trial does have Trump campaign connection, Mueller's team says

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Prosecutors for special counsel Robert Mueller intend to present evidence at the trial of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort that a banking executive allegedly helped Manafort obtain loans of approximately $16 million while the banker sought a role in the Trump campaign.

Manafort faces trial on bank fraud and other financial charges in the Eastern District of Virginia beginning July 25. Until now, there had been no indication that his role in the Trump campaign would become part of the trial, and he had asked the judge to keep details about his ties to President Donald Trump out of the trial. Prosecutors say any alleged collusion with the Russian government won't come up at the trial.

The allegation of a possible quid pro quo came amid several court filings Friday as both sides count down the remaining weeks until the trial. While prosecutors filled in the Trump campaign details, Manafort's team was busy filing requests with the judge to move his trial location and date, to look into possible leaks from the prosecutors and to keep Manafort out of the public eye.

"The government intends to present evidence that although various Lender D employees identified serious issues with the defendant's loan application, the senior executive at Lender D interceded in the process and approved the loan," according to the filing from Mueller's team.

The bank executive "expressed interest in working on the Trump campaign, told (Manafort) about his interest, and eventually secured a position advising the Trump campaign," the filing said. The unnamed man "expressed an interest in serving in the administration of President Trump, but did not secure such a position."

While the senior executive is unnamed in this filing, in a previous court filing prosecutors identified Lender D as The Federal Savings Bank.

"Here, it would be difficult for the jury to understand why the loans were approved without understanding that the lender approved the loans, in spite of the identified deficiencies, because the senior executive factored in his own personal ambition," prosecutors wrote in the filing.
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Shifting Strategy, Trump’s Lawyers Set New Conditions for Mueller Interview

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President Trump’s lawyers set new conditions on Friday on an interview with the special counsel and said that the chances that the president would be voluntarily questioned were growing increasingly unlikely.

The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, needs to prove before Mr. Trump would agree to an interview that he has evidence that Mr. Trump committed a crime and that his testimony is essential to completing the investigation, said Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president’s lead lawyer in the case.

His declaration was the latest sign that the president’s lawyers, who long cooperated quietly with the inquiry even as their client attacked it, have shifted to an openly combative stance.

Mr. Giuliani acknowledged that Mr. Mueller was unlikely to agree to the interview demands. Mr. Mueller could subpoena Mr. Trump to answer questions if he does not agree to voluntarily sit for an interview. Mr. Giuliani left open the possibility that the president, who has said in the past that he would be eager to sit down with the special counsel, would still agree to be interviewed.

Mr. Giuliani appeared to be in part trying to shift responsibility onto the special counsel for the lengthy negotiations over an interview — and was most likely prolonging them himself.

“If they can come to us and show us the basis and that it’s legitimate and that they have uncovered something, we can go from there and assess their objectivity,” Mr. Giuliani said in an interview. He urged the special counsel to wrap up his inquiry and write an investigative report. He said Mr. Trump’s lawyers planned to write their own summary of the case.

A spokesman for the special counsel’s office declined to comment.

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0s.gif Op zaterdag 7 juli 2018 15:38 schreef Ulx het volgende:
Dat gaan leuke tweets worden.
JYSexton twitterde op zaterdag 07-07-2018 om 15:20:23 Good thing Trump only gave them a generation’s worth of ready-made propaganda, elevated their murderous dictator, and alienated our allies. Otherwise we’d look pretty silly right now. https://t.co/LQ0lpLPbHp reageer retweet
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Dat geduw en getrek over dat interview de hele tijd. Wanneer gaan mensen zich beseffen dat er nooit een vrijwillig interview zal komen? Als er een interview komt is dat omdat Trump daartoe verplicht is.
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1s.gif Op zaterdag 7 juli 2018 15:29 schreef westwoodblvd het volgende:

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Jeetje wat schokkend, dit zag niemand aankomen. :')
Sommige users hier vonden het een historische deal....
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  zaterdag 7 juli 2018 @ 18:32:26 #42
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Het is wel lullig voor Kim dat hij nu geen Nobelprijs krijgt.
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10s.gif Op zaterdag 7 juli 2018 18:29 schreef Barbusse het volgende:

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Sommige users hier vonden het een historische deal....
Is het ook. Een historisch slechte deal.
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  zaterdag 7 juli 2018 @ 18:41:29 #44
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Is het ook. Een historisch slechte deal.
Het is geen deal. Trump kreeg er niks voor.

Het was een cadeautje.
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1s.gif Op zaterdag 7 juli 2018 18:41 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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Het is geen deal. Trump kreeg er niks voor.

Het was een cadeautje.
Hij had toch 3 gevangenen teruggekregen?
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0s.gif Op zaterdag 7 juli 2018 18:37 schreef Wombcat het volgende:

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Is het ook. Een historisch slechte deal.
Nog niet eens dat. Kan nu al gewist worden uit de geschiedenisboekjes.
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  Redactie Frontpage zaterdag 7 juli 2018 @ 18:57:57 #47
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0s.gif Op zaterdag 7 juli 2018 18:42 schreef Wombcat het volgende:

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Hij had toch 3 gevangenen teruggekregen?
Dat was een andere keer. Hier een artikeltje van 9 mei jl. https://www.npr.org/secti(...)peos-visit-concludes

Repatriering van lichamelijke overschotten van POWs/MIAs was wel onderdeel van de verklaring van 12 juni, zie hier: https://www.aljazeera.com(...)180612091218916.html

Althans, dat is te zeggen, de betreffende tekst luidt: "4. The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains, including the immediate repatriation of those already identified." Het kan dus misschien ook betekenen dat het om POWs ging en lichamelijke overschotten van MIAs?
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0s.gif Op zaterdag 7 juli 2018 18:57 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:

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Dat was een andere keer. Hier een artikeltje van 9 mei jl. https://www.npr.org/secti(...)peos-visit-concludes

Repatriering van lichamelijke overschotten van POWs/MIAs was wel onderdeel van de verklaring van 12 juni, zie hier: https://www.aljazeera.com(...)180612091218916.html

Althans, dat is te zeggen, de betreffende tekst luidt: "4. The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains, including the immediate repatriation of those already identified." Het kan dus misschien ook betekenen dat het om POWs ging en lichamelijke overschotten van MIAs?
Beetje onwaarschijnlijk dat er nog POW's in leven zouden zijn
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  Redactie Frontpage zaterdag 7 juli 2018 @ 19:07:39 #49
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1s.gif Op zaterdag 7 juli 2018 19:07 schreef Tijger_m het volgende:

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Beetje onwaarschijnlijk dat er nog POW's in leven zouden zijn
Haha, goed punt.
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1s.gif Op zaterdag 7 juli 2018 17:23 schreef westwoodblvd het volgende:

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Dat geduw en getrek over dat interview de hele tijd. Wanneer gaan mensen zich beseffen dat er nooit een vrijwillig interview zal komen? Als er een interview komt is dat omdat Trump daartoe verplicht is.
Het tegendeel is het geval, deze strategie werkt. ;(

Uit het artikel:

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The effort appears to be bearing some fruit. According to a Washington Post-Schar School poll released on Friday, 45 percent of Americans disapprove of how Mr. Mueller is handling the investigation, a 14-point increase from January.

“Nobody is going to consider impeachment if public opinion has concluded this is an unfair investigation, and that’s why public opinion is so important,” Mr. Giuliani said.
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