Roadmap to war against Iran #13

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Op dinsdag 13 februari 2007 21:06 schreef Drugshond het volgende:
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Bron : "De Pers" 13-02-2007

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Op dinsdag 13 februari 2007 19:18 schreef Monidique het volgende:

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http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)07/02/13/wiran13.xml

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Op dinsdag 13 februari 2007 02:38 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:

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Het is geen punt van discussie dat Iran gemakkelijk door de VS platgegooid kan worden. Of zelfs met vrij kleine verliezen grondoperaties kan doen.

Dat was ook niet het punt bij Irak destijds. Het ging er daar over hoe de situatie erna zou uitzien. Het scenario wat we nu zien, vier jaar na dato wordt er nog steeds dagelijks gevochten, werd voor absoluut onmogelijk geacht door de pro-oorlog lobby. Welnee, al die voorspelde doden en het voortwoekerd geweld waren doemverhalen van bomenknuffelende appeasers die eigenlijk stiekem met Saddam heulden...

Een soortgelijk iets zie je nu ook. De pro-oorlog mensen die pleiten dat een aanval het beste is en alle mogelijke consequenties zijn onzin en onrealistische doemverhalen. Nee, de enige uitkomst is dat er verder niks gebeurd, want zeg nou zelf, wat kan Iran nu helemaal doen?

Als je denkt dat de VS/Israel zonder consequenties Iran kunnen bombarderen ben je niet erg realistisch imo.

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Op woensdag 14 februari 2007 08:30 schreef retteketet het volgende:

Verder is het zo dat Amerika geen belang heeft bij het alleen bombarderen van de kerncentrales - het eigenlijke doel is natuurlijk een regime change ten faveure van Amerikaanse belangen.

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Op dinsdag 13 februari 2007 19:18 schreef Monidique het volgende:

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http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)07/02/13/wiran13.xml

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Op woensdag 14 februari 2007 09:05 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:
. Vooral het leger verzet zich erg tegen militaire actie.

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Op woensdag 14 februari 2007 11:21 schreef TaLoN.NL het volgende:
Top general casts doubt on Tehran's link to Iraq militias

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Peter Pace appeared Tuesday to question Bush administration assertions that the Iranian government is supplying weapons to Shiite militant groups in Iraq.

"We know that the explosively formed penetrators are manufactured in Iran," Pace told Voice of America during a trip to Australia about what senior military officials call EFPs.

"What I would not say is that the Iranian government per se knows about this. It is clear that Iranians are involved and it is clear that materials from Iran are involved, but I would not say, based on what I know, that the Iranian government clearly knows or is complicit," Pace said.

Senior military officials said Sunday that EFPs, which can punch holes in armored vehicles, are made in such a way that they can be traced to Iran.

They blamed EFPs for at least 170 coalition fatalities, though they offered no indication of how they came up with that figure.

White House spokesman Tony Snow on Tuesday portrayed the general's comments as in line with the administration's viewpoint.

"He says they exist, correct?" he asked CNN's Ed Henry, who had questioned whether the administration was speaking with one voice. "There are Iranians in Iraq. There's no question about that, correct? So, where's the credibility problem?"

Henry pointed out that Pace was questioning the Iranian government's putative role in the weapons, not the fact that the weapons may have been made in Iran.

To that, Snow said, "The Quds force is part of the Iranian government. The Quds force is behind it, is associated with it."

The U.S. military has said the munitions are being provided to Shiite groups in Iraq by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard's Quds force, which answers directly to Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

The military officials said a senior operations officer for the Quds force was among several Iranian officers arrested in Irbil -- in Iraq's Kurdish region -- in the past few weeks.

Political maneuvering also alleged
According to the U.S. military, other Iranian officers have provided information that Iran is arming a prominent Iraqi political organization.

Those officers were detained during a December raid on the Baghdad compound of Abdul Aziz Hakim, the head of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, a powerful Shiite political group with close ties to Iran, the U.S. military said.

The Baghdad raid also netted documents that confirmed the arms sale, the U.S. military said.

Officials with the political organization said the munitions were used for security purposes, an assertion disputed by U.S. military officials, who said the mortars and sniper rifles were not intended to be used for self-defense.

The purported credibility problem alluded to by Snow was deepened for some by the fact that the senior military officials who presented their evidence on Sunday did so anonymously and off camera.

"I get a little skeptical about that kind of information," Democratic Sen. Christopher Dodd, a 2008 presidential hopeful, told CNN on Tuesday.

Snow dismissed that concern as unfounded. He added that he had just spoken by telephone with Pace, who told him he and White House officials are on the same page.

Pace was en route back to the United States and unavailable to reporters.

His comments came a day after an official with the Iranian Embassy in Baghdad rejected the administration's assertions of Iranian involvement in Iraq.

"It's all lies and it's not true at all," Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini told CNN. "The American administration has made many mistakes in Iraq and now they want to use Iran as a scapegoat."

Senators see echoes of Iraq run-up
In an interview Friday with National Public Radio, Iranian Ambassador to the U.N. Javad Zarif said Iran has provided no weapons to Iraqi insurgents and does not want to.

In the United States, some Iraq war critics likened the Bush administration's highlighting of Iranian involvement in Iraq to the administration's run-up to the war in Iraq, contending officials are attempting a find a reason to invade Iran. The administration denies this.

In an interview on Monday with C-SPAN, Bush said the United States is committed to resolving the impasse over Iran's nuclear program diplomatically.

"We've got a comprehensive policy aimed to solve this peacefully," he said.

Sen. Ron Wyden, an Oregon Democrat, was not persuaded.

"That was said repeatedly before the effort was made to go to war with Iraq," said Wyden.

Wyden, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said Bush administration officials have promised -- and postponed -- a briefing for lawmakers on Iranian links to the Shiite militias blamed for attacks on U.S. troops and the country's Sunni population.

"I want the administration to deliver the full briefing that they promised, the one that's been put off time and time again now, so we can really get at the facts," he said.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid told reporters Tuesday that the evidence of Iranian government involvement in Iraq was "very, very weak," adding, "If they are involved, let's see the facts."
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Overdrijven daar zijn ze goed in, dat weten we ondertussen wel..

Nu maar hopen dat het diplomatiek opgelost zal worden.

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Op dinsdag 13 februari 2007 21:06 schreef Drugshond het volgende:
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Bron : "De Pers" 13-02-2007

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Op woensdag 14 februari 2007 08:30 schreef retteketet het volgende:
Rusland zal het nooit ofte nimmer accepteren dat hun adviseurs en technici gedood worden door Amerikaanse bombardementen. Verder is het zo dat Amerika geen belang heeft bij het alleen bombarderen van de kerncentrales - het eigenlijke doel is natuurlijk een regime change ten faveure van Amerikaanse belangen. De Amerikanen weten immers best dat Iran geen kernwapens heeft en deze zo lang Iran de lijn van Khomeini (a.s.) blijft volgen ook niet zal vervaardigen. Kernwapens staan compleet los van deze kwestie, het is slechts een zielige poging van de VS om hun afbrokkelende economische werelddominantie te verstevigen.

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Op woensdag 14 februari 2007 13:41 schreef icecreamfarmer_NL het volgende:

Maar die russische technici is een andere zaak geen idee hoe dat zal aflopen.

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Op woensdag 14 februari 2007 13:57 schreef gronk het volgende:

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Zodra de pleuris echt uitbreekt zijn die jongens de eerste die zullen opstappen.Zolang ze nog in Iran rondlopen weet je dan ook dat het nog allemaal spel is.

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Op woensdag 14 februari 2007 11:55 schreef PrinceOfPerzia het volgende:
Iraanse logo's op amerikaanse vliegdekschepen

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Op woensdag 14 februari 2007 14:51 schreef Monidique het volgende:
Vandaag is er weer een aanslag gepleegd in Iran. Elf militairen zijn gedood.

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Op woensdag 14 februari 2007 14:51 schreef Monidique het volgende:
Vandaag is er weer een aanslag gepleegd in Iran. Elf militairen zijn gedood.

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Now, it is well established that the US finances and supports the terrorist Mujahideen-e Khalq Organisation (MKO) against Iran. Additionally, US officials and journalists, Seymour Hersh for instance, have suggested that American Special Forces are already operating inside Iran, instigating unrest against the government and encouraging acts of terrorism.

Bush signals the start of open warfare against Iran

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In his testimony on the House anti-escalation resolution, GOP House leader John Boehner made the novel argument that despite outward appearances, America did not start the Iraq War. Rather, he said, the Iraq war is part of a longer war that didn't begin in the 90's, or even in the 80's, but in the 70's, with the Iranian hostage crisis.

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Op woensdag 14 februari 2007 15:02 schreef F4iTH het volgende:

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Dat heb ik idd vandaag ergens gelezen. Echt grappig, mocht dat waar zijn.

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Op woensdag 14 februari 2007 15:36 schreef icecreamfarmer_NL het volgende:

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ik vraag het mij af lijkt mij dat ze dan foto`s zouden tonen want zo komt het niet erg geloofwaardig over

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Op dinsdag 13 februari 2007 07:49 schreef Yildiz het volgende:

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Made by the Pentagon_{sorry boss}in Iran.