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Neem mij niet kwalijk (gezien mijn bovenstaande post).quote:Op dinsdag 15 augustus 2006 01:55 schreef Monidique het volgende:
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Nee, dat zie ik inderdaad liever niet. Iran is een land met een dictatoriaal, zeg maar gerust fascistisch regime en er heerst een hele enge ideologie. Ik zou het heel fijn vinden als zij geen atoombom krijgen.
Article 1 Universal Declaration of Human Rights
'All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.'
'All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.'
en wat waren die doelstelllingen dan precies?quote:Op dinsdag 15 augustus 2006 01:52 schreef damian5700 het volgende:
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Ik had het anders moeten formuleren, maar ik was bezig om die link te plaatsen. Lees in plaats van de vernietiging van de PLO het halen van de Israëlische doelstellingen jegens de PLO. Het ging immers om een soortgelijke dreiging; vandaar dat voorbeeld.
Arafat en co verhuizen naar Ramallah zodat die eindelijk is aanslagen in Jeruzalem konden plegen?
ook een manier om aanslagen op noord Israel te voorkomen, misschien Nasrallah ook die kant op verhuizen? Arafat zijn kantoor (4 overeindstaande stenen en een wc in de open lucht) zal wel leeg staan en zijn vrouw is volgens mij ook nog niet hertrouwd
misschien wil mevrouw Duisenberg er wel mee op de foto
Op zondag 8 december 2013 00:01 schreef Karina het volgende:
Dat gaat me te diep sp3c, daar is het te laat voor.
Dat gaat me te diep sp3c, daar is het te laat voor.
Volgens mij heb ik toch een link geplaatst? Ik zal direct wel copy paste vanuit die link.quote:Op dinsdag 15 augustus 2006 02:07 schreef sp3c het volgende:
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en wat waren die doelstelllingen dan precies?
Arafat en co verhuizen naar Ramallah zodat die eindelijk is aanslagen in Jeruzalem konden plegen?
ook een manier om aanslagen op noord Israel te voorkomen, misschien Nasrallah ook die kant op verhuizen? Arafat zijn kantoor (4 overeindstaande stenen en een wc in de open lucht) zal wel leeg staan en zijn vrouw is volgens mij ook nog niet hertrouwd
misschien wil mevrouw Duisenberg er wel mee op de foto
Verder wil ik erop wijzen dat ik reageerde op een post die ging over de overwinnaar van dit conflict. 'Geen enkel arabisch land heeft voor elkaar kunnen krijgen wat Hezbollah jegens Israël heeft bereikt', was de strekking, waarop ik wat nuance aanbracht.quote:Operation Peace for Galilee was launched to meet five national strategy
goals: (1) eliminate the PLO threat to Israel's northern border;
(2) destroy the PLO infrastructure in Lebanon; (3) remove Syrian
military presence in the Bekaa Valley and reduce its influence in
Lebanon; (4) create a stable Lebanese government; and (5)
therefore strengthen Israel's position in the West Bank.
That's all.
[ Bericht 13% gewijzigd door damian5700 op 15-08-2006 02:20:45 ]
If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions.
BEIRUT (Reuters) - Hizbollah chief Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah said on Monday his guerrillas had achieved a strategic victory over Israel and that it was the wrong time to talk about disarming the group.
"There is a mistake in timing, both psychologically and morally," he said, referring to comments by several Lebanese politicians that the Shi'ite Muslim group should disarm.
Hizbollah has reserved the right to attack Israeli troops still in south Lebanon. Nasrallah also said it was distasteful to mention disarmament after an Israeli bombing campaign that had devastated Shi'ite-populated parts of Lebanon.
"This is a mistake. A big mistake. We have exerted a great effort to prevent any reactions (from Hizbollah supporters) because what happened was insulting. I call on the people, the resistance lovers and supporters to pass over what they have heard," the Shi'ite cleric said.
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"There is a mistake in timing, both psychologically and morally," he said, referring to comments by several Lebanese politicians that the Shi'ite Muslim group should disarm.
Hizbollah has reserved the right to attack Israeli troops still in south Lebanon. Nasrallah also said it was distasteful to mention disarmament after an Israeli bombing campaign that had devastated Shi'ite-populated parts of Lebanon.
"This is a mistake. A big mistake. We have exerted a great effort to prevent any reactions (from Hizbollah supporters) because what happened was insulting. I call on the people, the resistance lovers and supporters to pass over what they have heard," the Shi'ite cleric said.
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If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions.
There are very good reasons why the French would like to take the lead in forming the peacekeeping force that will be needed to help embolden the Lebanese army as it takes over from Hezbollah in the south of Lebanon, creating a demilitarized buffer zone along the Israeli border.
The French have historic ties to Lebanon.
When the Ottoman Empire was dismantled at the end of World War I, the League of Nations carved up the Middle East, giving the area that is now Syria and Lebanon to the French in 1920, making France the mandatory power there — much like Britain was made the mandatory power of what was then Palestine. The French then carved Lebanon out of Syria — placing the Lebanese Christians, who were the majority, into positions of power.
As a result of France's commitment to Lebanon, French President Jacques Chirac teamed up with the U.S. nearly two years ago to sponsor U.N. Security Council resolution 1559. The first diplomatic unity exhibited between the U.S. and France since relations were strained over the Iraq War, 1559 had two key parts: 1) Syrian forces — soldiers and intelligence had to leave Lebanon after 26 years of occupation. 2) That Hezbollah be disarmed. Syria was forced to withdraw a year ago. Hezbollah was never disarmed.
France would also like to lead the peacekeeping force and push through a cease-fire at the U.N. to gain stature with its Arab allies, raising its stance as a defender of Arab interests as compared with the U.S., which is perceived by Arab states to be always siding with Israel.
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The French have historic ties to Lebanon.
When the Ottoman Empire was dismantled at the end of World War I, the League of Nations carved up the Middle East, giving the area that is now Syria and Lebanon to the French in 1920, making France the mandatory power there — much like Britain was made the mandatory power of what was then Palestine. The French then carved Lebanon out of Syria — placing the Lebanese Christians, who were the majority, into positions of power.
As a result of France's commitment to Lebanon, French President Jacques Chirac teamed up with the U.S. nearly two years ago to sponsor U.N. Security Council resolution 1559. The first diplomatic unity exhibited between the U.S. and France since relations were strained over the Iraq War, 1559 had two key parts: 1) Syrian forces — soldiers and intelligence had to leave Lebanon after 26 years of occupation. 2) That Hezbollah be disarmed. Syria was forced to withdraw a year ago. Hezbollah was never disarmed.
France would also like to lead the peacekeeping force and push through a cease-fire at the U.N. to gain stature with its Arab allies, raising its stance as a defender of Arab interests as compared with the U.S., which is perceived by Arab states to be always siding with Israel.
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If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions.
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The Hick from French Lick
The camera always points both ways. In expressing the subject, you also express yourself.
The camera always points both ways. In expressing the subject, you also express yourself.
Nou, ik wilde gisteravond nog een weddenschap posten hier: wedden dat Hezbollah het bestand zal overtreden?
Maar ik ben al te laat:
Maar ik ben al te laat:
Nou, nu is het wachten op NS en BG en zo om dit goed te praten met linkjes naar dubieuze websites.quote:Ondanks het geldende staakt-het-vuren van een VN-resolutie heeft de Libanese beweging Hezbollah vanochtend toch tien raketten afgevuurd op het leger van Israël. Israël zal niet ingaan op de raketaanval, omdat de raketten niet op Israëlisch grondgebied terecht gekomen zijn. Er zijn geen gewonden gevallen.
Daarnaast dreigt er een kabinetscrisis te ontstaan in Libanon, omdat de ministers van Hezbollah in het kabinet niet willen dat Hezbollah ontwapend wordt. Dit stond wel als eis in de VN-resolutie. Een deel van de ministers wil wel dat de Hezbollahstrijders ontwapend worden.
Het kabinet heeft een soort compromis gevonden: zo zullen er 15.000 militairen van het Libanese leger naar het zuiden trekken, maar zullen zij Hezbollahstrijders niet actief ontwapenen. Ze gaan volgens minister van Defensie Murr "een dialoog" aan met de militante beweging en hopen dan dat Hezbollah de wapens in zal leveren. Overigens zal het Libanese leger de rivier de Litani nog niet oversteken: tot een VN-troepenmacht geïnstalleerd is zal het Israëlische leger daar actief blijven.
waar was dat leger toen er 10 raketten op werden afgevuurd?
Op zondag 8 december 2013 00:01 schreef Karina het volgende:
Dat gaat me te diep sp3c, daar is het te laat voor.
Dat gaat me te diep sp3c, daar is het te laat voor.
Het is weer duidelijk dat de criminele en terroristische organisatie Hezbollah geen vrede wilt. Ze willen het conflict in stand houden over de rug van de arme Libanese bevolking.
Welnee. Het zijn helden tegen de Zionistische bezetting. Ze willen vrede, echt waar.quote:Op dinsdag 15 augustus 2006 08:56 schreef _The_General_ het volgende:
Het is weer duidelijk dat de criminele en terroristische organisatie Hezbollah geen vrede wilt. Ze willen het conflict in stand houden over de rug van de arme Libanese bevolking.
Dat was een defensieve actiequote:Op dinsdag 15 augustus 2006 08:17 schreef -IksRee- het volgende:
Nou, ik wilde gisteravond nog een weddenschap posten hier: wedden dat Hezbollah het bestand zal overtreden?
Maar ik ben al te laat:
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Nou, nu is het wachten op NS en BG en zo om dit goed te praten met linkjes naar dubieuze websites.
Hoe zat het dan met die dode hezbollahstrijders die waren gevallen direct nadat het bestand was afgesloten
Allah Al Watan Al Malik
Aldus een reactie van een supporter van islam terroristen.quote:Op dinsdag 15 augustus 2006 11:07 schreef Mutant01 het volgende:
Hoe zat het dan met die dode hezbollahstrijders die waren gevallen direct nadat het bestand was afgesloten
normen en waarden politiek http://www.pphwn.nl/
Aldus een Christen-fascist.quote:Op dinsdag 15 augustus 2006 11:17 schreef lionsguy18 het volgende:
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Aldus een reactie van een supporter van islam terroristen.
Allah Al Watan Al Malik
Assad spreekt nu live op CNN..
"Whatever the mind of man can conceive and believe, it can achieve" Napoleon Hill
Zijn versie van een ''new middle east'' maar daar komt ie nog op terug zei hij..quote:Op dinsdag 15 augustus 2006 11:26 schreef Mutant01 het volgende:
Assad praises "new middle east"?
"Whatever the mind of man can conceive and believe, it can achieve" Napoleon Hill
Hezbollah houdt nog altijd 40 Israelische commando's omsingeld op zo'n 20 kilometer van de grens, daar vallen nog elke dag wel doden, vooral aan de kant van Hezbollah, punt van zelfverdediging dus. Hezbollah zegt ook die commando's daar te willen uitroeien en helicopters die er in de buurt komen op zeker neer te halen, ja die gasten houden zich wel aan de resolutiequote:Op dinsdag 15 augustus 2006 11:07 schreef Mutant01 het volgende:
Hoe zat het dan met die dode hezbollahstrijders die waren gevallen direct nadat het bestand was afgesloten
Assad heeft best humor om eerlijk te zijn...
"Whatever the mind of man can conceive and believe, it can achieve" Napoleon Hill
Buffet and Hezbollah's Surprise War
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Published: August 9, 2006
Warren Buffett. The most important thing you need to know about Israel today and how it has performed so far in the war with Hezbollah is Warren Buffett.
Say what? Well, the most talked-about story in Israel, before Hezbollah started this war, was the fact that on May 5, Mr. Buffett, the Berkshire Hathaway chairman and the world's most successful investor, bought an 80 percent stake in the privately held Israeli precision tools company, Iscar Metalworking, for $4 billion - Mr. Buffett's first purchase of a company outside America. According to BusinessWeek, as a result of the deal, Iscar's owners were 'likely to pay about $1 billion in capital gains taxes into the Israeli government's coffers - an unexpected windfall. With the Israeli budget already running a $2 billion surplus, the government is considering slashing value-added tax by one percentage point to 15 percent.'
In May, Israeli papers were filled with pages about how cool it was that Israel had produced a cutting-edge company that Warren Buffett wanted to buy. It was being discussed everywhere, pushing the Tel Aviv stock exchange to an all-time high.
That is where Israel's head was on the eve of this war - and it explains something I sensed when I visited Israel shortly after the fighting started. Nobody wanted this war, and nobody was prepared for it. Look closely at pictures of Israeli soldiers from Lebanon. There is no enthusiasm in their faces, and certainly no triumphalism. Their expressions tell the whole story: 'I just don⤙t want to be doing this - another war with the Arabs.'
Israeli soldiers were napping when this war started - that's why they got ambushed - for the very best reasons: They have so much more to do with their lives, and they live in a society that empowers and enables them to do it. (Unfortunately, the Buffett company is in northern Israel and had to be temporarily closed because of rocket attacks.)
Young Israelis dream of being inventors, and their role models are the Israeli innovators who made it to the Nasdaq. Hezbollah youth dream of being martyrs, and their role models are Islamic militants who made it to the Next World. Israel spent the last six years preparing for Warren Buffett, while Hezbollah spent the last six years preparing for this war.
'Israel was not prepared for this war,' said the Israeli political theorist Yaron Ezrahi. 'It came upon us like the crash of a meteorite. ... The whole focus of debate in the country before this war was on withdrawal.' The Israeli Army had just taken on its own extremists, the settlers in Gaza, and removed them against their will, added Mr. Ezrahi, 'and the country had just elected for the first time a prime minister who promised voters to unilaterally withdraw from the West Bank in return for nothing.'
In the end, Israel will do whatever it has to do to prevail. But what is so troubling for Israelis is that this war is about nothing and everything. That is, Israel got out of Lebanon, and yet Hezbollah keeps coming. It is all about Hezbollah's need to justify its existence and Iran's need for a distraction.
What is doubly sad is that Lebanon was getting its act together. Rafik Hariri, the former prime minister, represented a whole new type of Arab leader - one who rose to power by being a builder and an entrepreneur. He understood that Lebanon, freed of Syria, was a country whose youth had the energy and skill to compete anywhere. He thought Lebanon could again be a model of how Arabs can embrace modernity. But Mr. Hariri was murdered, allegedly by Syria, and now Lebanon's democracy is being murdered by Hezbollah. Once again, in the Arab world, the past buries the future.
Israel mustn't get sucked into that same grave. Israel needs to get a cease-fire and an international force into south Lebanon - and get out. Israel can't defeat Hezbollah, it can only hurt it enough to make it think twice about ever doing this again - and it has pretty much done that. It must not destroy any more of Lebanon, which is going to still be its neighbor when the guns fall silent.
Israel wins when Warren Buffett's company there is fully back in business - not when Nasrallah is out of business. Because that will only happen, not by war, but when Arabs wake up and realize that he is just another fraud, just another Nasser, whose strategy would condemn the flower of Arab youth - who deserve and need so much better - to another decade of making potato chips, not microchips. Nasrallah can win in the long run only if he can condemn the flower of Israel's youth to the same fate. Don⤙t let it happen, Israel.
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Published: August 9, 2006
Warren Buffett. The most important thing you need to know about Israel today and how it has performed so far in the war with Hezbollah is Warren Buffett.
Say what? Well, the most talked-about story in Israel, before Hezbollah started this war, was the fact that on May 5, Mr. Buffett, the Berkshire Hathaway chairman and the world's most successful investor, bought an 80 percent stake in the privately held Israeli precision tools company, Iscar Metalworking, for $4 billion - Mr. Buffett's first purchase of a company outside America. According to BusinessWeek, as a result of the deal, Iscar's owners were 'likely to pay about $1 billion in capital gains taxes into the Israeli government's coffers - an unexpected windfall. With the Israeli budget already running a $2 billion surplus, the government is considering slashing value-added tax by one percentage point to 15 percent.'
In May, Israeli papers were filled with pages about how cool it was that Israel had produced a cutting-edge company that Warren Buffett wanted to buy. It was being discussed everywhere, pushing the Tel Aviv stock exchange to an all-time high.
That is where Israel's head was on the eve of this war - and it explains something I sensed when I visited Israel shortly after the fighting started. Nobody wanted this war, and nobody was prepared for it. Look closely at pictures of Israeli soldiers from Lebanon. There is no enthusiasm in their faces, and certainly no triumphalism. Their expressions tell the whole story: 'I just don⤙t want to be doing this - another war with the Arabs.'
Israeli soldiers were napping when this war started - that's why they got ambushed - for the very best reasons: They have so much more to do with their lives, and they live in a society that empowers and enables them to do it. (Unfortunately, the Buffett company is in northern Israel and had to be temporarily closed because of rocket attacks.)
Young Israelis dream of being inventors, and their role models are the Israeli innovators who made it to the Nasdaq. Hezbollah youth dream of being martyrs, and their role models are Islamic militants who made it to the Next World. Israel spent the last six years preparing for Warren Buffett, while Hezbollah spent the last six years preparing for this war.
'Israel was not prepared for this war,' said the Israeli political theorist Yaron Ezrahi. 'It came upon us like the crash of a meteorite. ... The whole focus of debate in the country before this war was on withdrawal.' The Israeli Army had just taken on its own extremists, the settlers in Gaza, and removed them against their will, added Mr. Ezrahi, 'and the country had just elected for the first time a prime minister who promised voters to unilaterally withdraw from the West Bank in return for nothing.'
In the end, Israel will do whatever it has to do to prevail. But what is so troubling for Israelis is that this war is about nothing and everything. That is, Israel got out of Lebanon, and yet Hezbollah keeps coming. It is all about Hezbollah's need to justify its existence and Iran's need for a distraction.
What is doubly sad is that Lebanon was getting its act together. Rafik Hariri, the former prime minister, represented a whole new type of Arab leader - one who rose to power by being a builder and an entrepreneur. He understood that Lebanon, freed of Syria, was a country whose youth had the energy and skill to compete anywhere. He thought Lebanon could again be a model of how Arabs can embrace modernity. But Mr. Hariri was murdered, allegedly by Syria, and now Lebanon's democracy is being murdered by Hezbollah. Once again, in the Arab world, the past buries the future.
Israel mustn't get sucked into that same grave. Israel needs to get a cease-fire and an international force into south Lebanon - and get out. Israel can't defeat Hezbollah, it can only hurt it enough to make it think twice about ever doing this again - and it has pretty much done that. It must not destroy any more of Lebanon, which is going to still be its neighbor when the guns fall silent.
Israel wins when Warren Buffett's company there is fully back in business - not when Nasrallah is out of business. Because that will only happen, not by war, but when Arabs wake up and realize that he is just another fraud, just another Nasser, whose strategy would condemn the flower of Arab youth - who deserve and need so much better - to another decade of making potato chips, not microchips. Nasrallah can win in the long run only if he can condemn the flower of Israel's youth to the same fate. Don⤙t let it happen, Israel.
Dom om dat Fascisme te noemen. Probeer het nog maar eens op nieuw. Je slaat de plank helemaal mis!quote:
de essentie eigenlijk van dit alles:
.........What is doubly sad is that Lebanon was getting its act together. Rafik Hariri, the former prime minister, represented a whole new type of Arab leader - one who rose to power by being a builder and an entrepreneur. He understood that Lebanon, freed of Syria, was a country whose youth had the energy and skill to compete anywhere. He thought Lebanon could again be a model of how Arabs can embrace modernity. But Mr. Hariri was murdered, allegedly by Syria, and now Lebanon's democracy is being murdered by Hezbollah. Once again, in the Arab world, the past buries the future...........
.........What is doubly sad is that Lebanon was getting its act together. Rafik Hariri, the former prime minister, represented a whole new type of Arab leader - one who rose to power by being a builder and an entrepreneur. He understood that Lebanon, freed of Syria, was a country whose youth had the energy and skill to compete anywhere. He thought Lebanon could again be a model of how Arabs can embrace modernity. But Mr. Hariri was murdered, allegedly by Syria, and now Lebanon's democracy is being murdered by Hezbollah. Once again, in the Arab world, the past buries the future...........
