VBL Voetbal
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Die hebben geld zat. Ze willen misschien wel zekerheid dat hij volgend jaar bij hun voetbalt, en niet naar een andere club transfervrij vertrekt.quote:Op maandag 15 mei 2006 13:47 schreef Cart_man het volgende:
Zou mooi zijn, maar geloof er geen flikker van dat Chelsea zoveel gaat betalen voor een contract wat volgend jaar afloopt.
anders doe je ff bronvermelding geven?quote:Op maandag 15 mei 2006 13:41 schreef Dirk-Kuijt het volgende:
Kalou voor 11.2 miljoen naar Chelsea
hij kan altijd nog bacardi gaan serveren in het cafe van Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
Dan geef je dan wel een heel goed contract dan nu in 1x 11 miljoen over de balk te gooienquote:Op maandag 15 mei 2006 13:51 schreef Dirk-Kuijt het volgende:
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Die hebben geld zat. Ze willen misschien wel zekerheid dat hij volgend jaar bij hun voetbalt, en niet naar een andere club transfervrij vertrekt.
The Guardianquote:Op maandag 15 mei 2006 13:55 schreef mister_popcorn het volgende:
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anders doe je ff bronvermelding geven?
quote:Ballack begins summer spree at Chelsea
Matt Scott
Monday May 15, 2006
The Guardian
Michael Ballack will be announced today as the first of a likely five Chelsea signings this summer. The German international midfielder agreed a £6m-a-year salary package three months ago after deciding to quit Bayern Munich on a free transfer.
Ballack will be the first new component in a much-changed Chelsea team designed to achieve results with more flair. The Premiership champions are also seeking the signature of Andrei Shevchenko from Milan, the Feyenoord forward Salomon Kalou, Barcelona's striker Samuel Eto'o, a left-back - believed to be Real Madrid's Brazil international Roberto Carlos - and a centre-half.
The corruption scandal sweeping Italian football, plus falling attendances, may make this the perfect time for Shevchenko to quit the San Siro, but Chelsea have yet to tie up a deal for a player who will be 30 in September. "Shevchenko is the type of player we would like," said the chief executive Peter Kenyon. "We have shown our interest in him the last two seasons and had dialogue with Milan.
"[Chelsea] stand a chance [of purchasing Shevchenko] but you don't put it any more than that. There is a long way to go in the summer. It has got to be 50-50 but I wouldn't say any more than that."
With Chelsea's owner Roman Abramovich keen to bring world football's biggest stars to his club, the 25-year-old Eto'o is his favoured target and may arrive at Stamford Bridge this summer as a Champions League winner. Chelsea have already registered a verbal £35m-plus offer for the Cameroon international, with the bonus that the money would strengthen Barcelona's hand in their attempts to sign Thierry Henry from Arsenal.
Though agreement has been reached with the Dutch club for the signing of the £8m-rated Kalou, a work permit will be harder to achieve for the Ivorian forward. He has never played international football because he has been seeking a Dutch passport which would have permitted him to play for Holland in this summer's World Cup. It did not materialise but Chelsea sources are confident a solution can be found in order to complete the transfer either this summer or in January.
Despite reports of a £22m bid for Corinthians' forward Carlos Tevez, Chelsea see him as little more than a back-up option. The Argentinian has yet to convince Chelsea's manager Jose Mourinho that his talent justifies the fee being demanded by the Brazilian club.
There will also be a host of departures from Stamford Bridge this summer, with Hernán Crespo certain to leave. William Gallas has announced his intention to depart and Shaun Wright-Phillips, whose career has stalled since his £21m transfer from Manchester City last July, and Asier Del Horno are also expected to go.
Wat een beetje poen wel niet kan doen....
Hand in Hand.
"He who does'nt understand history is doomed to repeat it."
"He who does'nt understand history is doomed to repeat it."
Waarom is Kalou niet gewoon voor Ivoorkust gaan spelen? Dan had hij nu kunnen gaan cashen bij Chelski en had hij wel op het WK gespeeld.
Typisch gevalletje van je eigen ramen in gooien
Typisch gevalletje van je eigen ramen in gooien
"We moeten ons bewust zijn van de superioriteit van onze beschaving, met zijn normen en waarden, welvaart voor de mensen, respect voor mensenrechten en godsdienstvrijheid. Dat respect bestaat zeker niet in de Islamitische wereld".
Ze betaalden ook 9 miljoen euro voor Kezman.quote:Op maandag 15 mei 2006 13:47 schreef Cart_man het volgende:
Zou mooi zijn, maar geloof er geen flikker van dat Chelsea zoveel gaat betalen voor een contract wat volgend jaar afloopt.
Dat zou een prachtbedrag zijn voor Kalou, 11.2 miljoen. Chelsea zal wel blij zijn met de situatie dat Salomon niet voor Ivoorkust speelt. Afrikanen zijn altijd in een belangrijke periode weg vanwege de Afrika-cup.
That's all folks!
Kezza had wel een stuk meer bewezen dan Kalou
Een stukje Steef:
Clippers just following NBA's business model
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By Ric Bucher
ESPN The Magazine
There's this guy who runs a laundromat in L.A., and he's a diehard Clippers(Feyenoord) fan. Last time I saw him, about a year ago, he was all revved up about what his team would be doing this season. He was washing and folding the pool towels for a nearby hotel to make extra cash. He was decked out in full Clippers'(Feyenoord) regalia -- a shooting shirt over a logo'ed T-shirt, I believe, along with regulation practice shorts, official NBA socks and, of course, top-shelf hoop shoes.
His bike, parked outside with a well-worn ball strapped to the back, was ready to roll over to Venice Beach after work.
.
When I tried to caution him about expecting too much from the Clippers(Feyenoord) he squinted at me, as if trying to figure out if he'd seen me somewhere before, then waved me off as just another joker who couldn't know his team as well as he did. This is it, he said. They're young and only going to get better. They'll keep this team together. I just know they will.
I appreciated the passion and, for his sake, hoped he was right.
Does that make me an enabler?
The moral of this story is that the NBA(Professioneel voetbal) is Business First, Entertainment Second and a bastion for the Soul and Spirit of Basketball somewhere after that. The disenchanted believe that's a new development; the dirty little secret is that it's not. The earmarks of the cash-grab simply have become more blatantly apparent because the stakes are so much higher. Not to diss Larry Bird, Magic or the ol' bald guy in D.C., but how did doing a commercial ever make any of them a better player? And knowing firsthand how arduous a commercial shoot can be, it's reasonable to believe that doing a commercial, in some small way, affected their ability to compete. So if three of the game's greatest competitors compromised themselves, should we really be alarmed that anybody else has?
The league drug-enforcement rules, the structure of the salary cap and the tradeoff of training-camp(winterstop) practice for more playoff games are only the most recent examples that both sides of the equation (players and owners) put the bottom line just a little higher than the quality of their work, but I'm guessing those subjects are just a little too starchy to carry your attention to the bottom of this page.
So instead let's take a living, breathing and forehead-pounding subject -- the 2002-2003 Clippers(Feyenoord 2006/07) -- as the latest and greatest proof that competing for the sake of competing is about as quaint as you can get outside of Ye Olde Sarsparilla Shoppe.
It's an old story with the Clippers (Feyenoord), although this year's version actually has a few new twists, the biggest being that competing was supposed to be at least something. In previous years, the Clippers(Feyenoord) were a compendium of bona fide talent biding their time to go elsewhere and dregs that were happy to be in the league. Not exactly a winning combination. This year was supposed to be different because the talent was so rich and a good deal of it supposedly wanted to stay and dedicate themselves to changing the franchise's reputation. There was even speculation owner Donald Sterling (GKL + Woerts) was dedicated to that, too -- why else would he have VP of basketball operations Elgin Baylor (Wim Jansen) go through all that trouble to build such a promising collection of talent?
OK, so the young talent just wanted to be assured first they would be paid handsomely for all that heavy lifting. Is that so wrong? Well, if it's all about winning and playing the game at the highest level, sure. But remember the mantra: business first, entertainment second, soul somewhere down the line.
Naturally, then, when the transformation became a little more arduous than advertised and no long-term financial assurances were being made, that all-for-one and one-for-all quickly fell to the wayside. Anyone who works for a living can hardly blame them. Whatever kind of collar you wear, if you believe your company doesn't plan to keep you around, chances are good you'll do, at best, exactly what your job requires you to do and not much more. Or you'll work very hard, but your energy will be directed toward projects that could make you look valuable to a prospective new employer. Designing a new widget without right of authorship or ownership? Working overtime with the chance of carpal tunnel syndrome but no chance of credit? I've never met anyone who was named Employee of the Month after receiving their two-weeks' notice. And just showing up and working hard without any other purpose or motive doesn't cut it in the NBA. Hoopin' for a living may look easy, but it's a cutthroat world chock-full of people with almost identical talents. And the margin between winning and losing is too thin, especially for a young team that has to live off playing with more energy than its opponent every night.
So I don't blame the players. They were simply being human, reacting the way most of us would -- some just fake it better than others. Nor do I blame Baylor (Wim Jansen). He is the NBA's Sisyphus, drafting rather impressive talent -- aside from that Randy Woods (Van Hooydonk) brain cramp -- and then watching it all eventually head elsewhere.
How can he stand it? Last I checked, Elgin has held his job since 1986. Only the Bulls' Jerry Krause has held his job longer. That's 17 years of cruising L.A. with a VP paycheck in his pocket. Makes for a pretty nice life. Remember the mantra: Business First, Entertainment Second, Soul ...
This, of course, is about the point in every Clippers (Feyenoord) discourse where Sterling (GKL + Woerts) gets hung in effigy or nailed to a cross or hung on a cross in effigy. Not here. This guy is a genius. Every few years he builds a team that shows some promise. That, combined with being in a city that offers a steady stream of clientele through the Anti-Laker (020) Feeder Program -- an excellent reason not to move, ever -- he can sell enough seats and concessions and advertising to guarantee a profit. Thanks to Baylor's (Jansen) prowess at identifying young talent, Sterling (GKL + Woerts) can let his stars walk when they begin asking for salaries that might make them a financial risk. Word has it, having moved into the shiny new Staples Center and sold the promise of this year's Clippers (Feyenoord) but kept a rather low payroll, Sterling (GKL + Woerts) could clear as much as any other owner this season -- without making the playoffs(CL). You don't think stockholders salivate over such brilliance? Don't forget the mantra: Business First, Entertainment Second, Soul ...
Ric Bucher covers the NBA
Een stukje Steef:
Clippers just following NBA's business model
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
By Ric Bucher
ESPN The Magazine
There's this guy who runs a laundromat in L.A., and he's a diehard Clippers(Feyenoord) fan. Last time I saw him, about a year ago, he was all revved up about what his team would be doing this season. He was washing and folding the pool towels for a nearby hotel to make extra cash. He was decked out in full Clippers'(Feyenoord) regalia -- a shooting shirt over a logo'ed T-shirt, I believe, along with regulation practice shorts, official NBA socks and, of course, top-shelf hoop shoes.
His bike, parked outside with a well-worn ball strapped to the back, was ready to roll over to Venice Beach after work.
.
When I tried to caution him about expecting too much from the Clippers(Feyenoord) he squinted at me, as if trying to figure out if he'd seen me somewhere before, then waved me off as just another joker who couldn't know his team as well as he did. This is it, he said. They're young and only going to get better. They'll keep this team together. I just know they will.
I appreciated the passion and, for his sake, hoped he was right.
Does that make me an enabler?
The moral of this story is that the NBA(Professioneel voetbal) is Business First, Entertainment Second and a bastion for the Soul and Spirit of Basketball somewhere after that. The disenchanted believe that's a new development; the dirty little secret is that it's not. The earmarks of the cash-grab simply have become more blatantly apparent because the stakes are so much higher. Not to diss Larry Bird, Magic or the ol' bald guy in D.C., but how did doing a commercial ever make any of them a better player? And knowing firsthand how arduous a commercial shoot can be, it's reasonable to believe that doing a commercial, in some small way, affected their ability to compete. So if three of the game's greatest competitors compromised themselves, should we really be alarmed that anybody else has?
The league drug-enforcement rules, the structure of the salary cap and the tradeoff of training-camp(winterstop) practice for more playoff games are only the most recent examples that both sides of the equation (players and owners) put the bottom line just a little higher than the quality of their work, but I'm guessing those subjects are just a little too starchy to carry your attention to the bottom of this page.
So instead let's take a living, breathing and forehead-pounding subject -- the 2002-2003 Clippers(Feyenoord 2006/07) -- as the latest and greatest proof that competing for the sake of competing is about as quaint as you can get outside of Ye Olde Sarsparilla Shoppe.
It's an old story with the Clippers (Feyenoord), although this year's version actually has a few new twists, the biggest being that competing was supposed to be at least something. In previous years, the Clippers(Feyenoord) were a compendium of bona fide talent biding their time to go elsewhere and dregs that were happy to be in the league. Not exactly a winning combination. This year was supposed to be different because the talent was so rich and a good deal of it supposedly wanted to stay and dedicate themselves to changing the franchise's reputation. There was even speculation owner Donald Sterling (GKL + Woerts) was dedicated to that, too -- why else would he have VP of basketball operations Elgin Baylor (Wim Jansen) go through all that trouble to build such a promising collection of talent?
OK, so the young talent just wanted to be assured first they would be paid handsomely for all that heavy lifting. Is that so wrong? Well, if it's all about winning and playing the game at the highest level, sure. But remember the mantra: business first, entertainment second, soul somewhere down the line.
Naturally, then, when the transformation became a little more arduous than advertised and no long-term financial assurances were being made, that all-for-one and one-for-all quickly fell to the wayside. Anyone who works for a living can hardly blame them. Whatever kind of collar you wear, if you believe your company doesn't plan to keep you around, chances are good you'll do, at best, exactly what your job requires you to do and not much more. Or you'll work very hard, but your energy will be directed toward projects that could make you look valuable to a prospective new employer. Designing a new widget without right of authorship or ownership? Working overtime with the chance of carpal tunnel syndrome but no chance of credit? I've never met anyone who was named Employee of the Month after receiving their two-weeks' notice. And just showing up and working hard without any other purpose or motive doesn't cut it in the NBA. Hoopin' for a living may look easy, but it's a cutthroat world chock-full of people with almost identical talents. And the margin between winning and losing is too thin, especially for a young team that has to live off playing with more energy than its opponent every night.
So I don't blame the players. They were simply being human, reacting the way most of us would -- some just fake it better than others. Nor do I blame Baylor (Wim Jansen). He is the NBA's Sisyphus, drafting rather impressive talent -- aside from that Randy Woods (Van Hooydonk) brain cramp -- and then watching it all eventually head elsewhere.
How can he stand it? Last I checked, Elgin has held his job since 1986. Only the Bulls' Jerry Krause has held his job longer. That's 17 years of cruising L.A. with a VP paycheck in his pocket. Makes for a pretty nice life. Remember the mantra: Business First, Entertainment Second, Soul ...
This, of course, is about the point in every Clippers (Feyenoord) discourse where Sterling (GKL + Woerts) gets hung in effigy or nailed to a cross or hung on a cross in effigy. Not here. This guy is a genius. Every few years he builds a team that shows some promise. That, combined with being in a city that offers a steady stream of clientele through the Anti-Laker (020) Feeder Program -- an excellent reason not to move, ever -- he can sell enough seats and concessions and advertising to guarantee a profit. Thanks to Baylor's (Jansen) prowess at identifying young talent, Sterling (GKL + Woerts) can let his stars walk when they begin asking for salaries that might make them a financial risk. Word has it, having moved into the shiny new Staples Center and sold the promise of this year's Clippers (Feyenoord) but kept a rather low payroll, Sterling (GKL + Woerts) could clear as much as any other owner this season -- without making the playoffs(CL). You don't think stockholders salivate over such brilliance? Don't forget the mantra: Business First, Entertainment Second, Soul ...
Ric Bucher covers the NBA
"We moeten ons bewust zijn van de superioriteit van onze beschaving, met zijn normen en waarden, welvaart voor de mensen, respect voor mensenrechten en godsdienstvrijheid. Dat respect bestaat zeker niet in de Islamitische wereld".
Wat een buitensporige bedragen voor iemand wiens contract over 1 jaar afloopt! Als het waar zou zijn is het natuurlijk een godsgeschenk voor Feyenoord.
11 miljoen? Grote strik erom.
As the officer took her away, she recalled that she asked,
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
Ik vind al dat gedoe van Dirk moet blijven maar overdreven, ok hij is een goede spits maar met hem hebben we niks gepresteerd. Dat ligt niet aan hem want hij heeft te maken met een aantal matige spelers om hem heen maar zonder hem en met dat grote bedrag kan het toch niet slechter gaan dan dat het nu al gaat.
En daarbij is niemand groter dan de club.
En daarbij is niemand groter dan de club.
Amen.quote:Op maandag 15 mei 2006 20:01 schreef rotskibo het volgende:
En daarbij is niemand groter dan de club.
A.M.A.B
Klopt.quote:Op maandag 15 mei 2006 20:01 schreef rotskibo het volgende:
Ik vind al dat gedoe van Dirk moet blijven maar overdreven, ok hij is een goede spits maar met hem hebben we niks gepresteerd. Dat ligt niet aan hem want hij heeft te maken met een aantal matige spelers om hem heen maar zonder hem en met dat grote bedrag kan het toch niet slechter gaan dan dat het nu al gaat.
En daarbij is niemand groter dan de club.
Maar een Dirk is gewoon stoer.
Oerhollandse knul die zich de tering werkt.
VInd die er nog maar eens een.
Daarom moet Dirk blijven, niet omdat hij zo goed is of groter dan de club is.. Maar het persoon wat naast je staat in De Kuip, dat zou Dirk kunnen zijn.
quote:Op maandag 15 mei 2006 20:26 schreef Keltie het volgende:
[..]
Klopt.
Maar een Dirk is gewoon stoer.
Oerhollandse knul die zich de tering werkt.
VInd die er nog maar eens een.
Daarom moet Dirk blijven, niet omdat hij zo goed is of groter dan de club is.. Maar het persoon wat naast je staat in De Kuip, dat zou Dirk kunnen zijn.
overigens...
quote:15-05-2006: 'Fred' mee met Brazilië
[Bron: FR-Fans.nl]
Fred is de revelatie in Frankrijk. Hij speelt momenteel bij Olympique Lyon en scoorde dit seizoen 14 doelpunten in 31 wedstrijden. Dat is bondscoach Zico ook niet onopgemerkt gebleven. De Braziliaans bondscoach laat Roque Junior (Bayer Leverkusen) thuis en ruimt een plaatsje in voor Fred. Fred scoorde afgelopen weekend nog 3 doelpunten voor zijn club.
Fred was nog een tijd eigendom van Feyenoord, maar Fred wilde niet in Rotterdam voor Feyenoord komen spelen. Zijn vorige werkgever (Atletico-MG) verkocht toch een deel van de transferrechten van de Braziliaan aan Feyenoord om de schuld die Atletico bij Feyenoord had vanwege het samenwerkingsverband af te lossen.
Yvonne is een lekker wijf, whehehehe!!
Voor de rest mee eens, maar mét hem kan het wel beter gaan dan de afgelopen jaren. Ook al krijg je er 15 mln voor, ik zou geen vervanger wetenquote:Op maandag 15 mei 2006 20:01 schreef rotskibo het volgende:
maar zonder hem en met dat grote bedrag kan het toch niet slechter gaan dan dat het nu al gaat.
Heeft Feyenoord die rechten voor Fred nou verkocht toen Fred naar Lyon ging of is een deel nog in ons bezit? Dat zou betekenen dat bij een transfer Feyenoord nog wel aardig wat geld kan opstrijken.
As the officer took her away, she recalled that she asked,
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
dirkmoetblijven.nlquote:Op maandag 15 mei 2006 20:26 schreef Keltie het volgende:
[..]
Klopt.
Maar een Dirk is gewoon stoer.
Oerhollandse knul die zich de tering werkt.
VInd die er nog maar eens een.
Daarom moet Dirk blijven, niet omdat hij zo goed is of groter dan de club is.. Maar het persoon wat naast je staat in De Kuip, dat zou Dirk kunnen zijn.
We hadden alle rechten en hebben toen 90% geruild voor Magrao. Toen vertrok Fred voor 12mln naar OL en kregen wij dus 1,2 mln en is het afgelopen. Ofzo.quote:Op maandag 15 mei 2006 21:25 schreef heiden6 het volgende:
Heeft Feyenoord die rechten voor Fred nou verkocht toen Fred naar Lyon ging of is een deel nog in ons bezit? Dat zou betekenen dat bij een transfer Feyenoord nog wel aardig wat geld kan opstrijken.
Als je van Hooijdonk in de spits zet schiet die er ook wel een stuk of 20 in.quote:Op maandag 15 mei 2006 21:23 schreef Erasmusch het volgende:
Voor de rest mee eens, maar mét hem kan het wel beter gaan dan de afgelopen jaren. Ook al krijg je er 15 mln voor, ik zou geen vervanger weten
die turk misschienquote:Op maandag 15 mei 2006 21:23 schreef Erasmusch het volgende:
[..]
Voor de rest mee eens, maar mét hem kan het wel beter gaan dan de afgelopen jaren. Ook al krijg je er 15 mln voor, ik zou geen vervanger weten
Als ie 10 penalites mag nemen ja.quote:Op maandag 15 mei 2006 21:36 schreef rotskibo het volgende:
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Als je van Hooijdonk in de spits zet schiet die er ook wel een stuk of 20 in.
