Roadmap to war against Iran #05

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Op vrijdag 21 april 2006 19:13 schreef Krullehoofd het volgende:

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Na 9/11 is men een beetje anders gaan denken in Washington. De Verenigde Staten hebben hun controle op het midden oosten, centraal azië, zuidoost azië en noordoost azië verstevigd. Dit gaat natuurlijk wel een beetje voorbij aan de oorspronkelijk scope van "the war on terror". Onder het mom van het verspreiden van de democratie rekenen ze dus militair af met onvriendelijke regimes om hun status "werelds enige superpower" te behouden.

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Op vrijdag 21 april 2006 18:16 schreef RuL0R het volgende:

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Meer macht/invloed in de regio is het belangrijkste en terreurbestrijding hoort daarbij.
Als er meer aanslagen ed. zijn betekent dat ook dat er meer Amerikanen in de regio actief zijn.

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Vooralsnog is er voor zover ik weet nog maar 1 Amerikaan gesneuveld in Uruzgan en was dat een ongeluk.

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American killed
U.S. service member was killed and two others wounded Tuesday during counterinsurgency operations near Tarin Kowt in Uruzgan province, south-central Afghanistan, the U.S. military said.

The military statement said the wounded troops were in stable condition.

In the fighting, a roadside bomb damaged a military vehicle. A gunbattle followed, and U.S.-led forces detained seven suspected Taliban fighters.

Since the Afghanistan war began in October 2001, 273 U.S. troops there have been killed.

Sixty-five personnel from allied countries have died in the conflict, which toppled the Taliban-led government that gave haven to al Qaeda before the attacks of September 11, 2001.

On February 13, a roadside bomb killed four U.S. troops, also in Uruzgan province.

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Dozens killed in Afghanistan fighting

Tuesday 26 July 2005, 13:28 Makka Time, 10:28 GMT

Fighting between Taliban rebels and US and Afghan forces has killed about 50 suspected insurgents and two Afghan soldiers in the deadliest clashes in weeks.

The fighting late on Monday in Uruzgan province's Dihrawud district occurred during an offensive against an insurgent camp, which had been used as a base for attacks in neighbouring areas, provincial governor Jan Mohammed Khan said on Tuesday.

About 25 suspected insurgents were captured, he said, adding that Afghan forces were still finding bodies of fighters on Tuesday.

US soldier killed

A US military statement on Monday said heavy fighting in the area had killed one American service member, an Afghan soldier and 11 insurgents.

Three US soliders and one Afghan soldier were also wounded, it said.

The statement said American fighter jets and helicopters responded to a rebel attack on a patrol that sparked the gun battle.

In fighting elsewhere, police arrested 10 suspected Taliban suspects after clashes in the southeastern Zabul province, said Ali Khail, a spokesman for the provincial governor.

In neighbouring Kandahar province, Taliban fighters attacked an Afghan patrol on Monday night, triggering a gun battle that left an Afghan soldier dead and a police officer badly wounded, said deputy district chief Haji Lala Khan.

In eastern Paktika province on Tuesday, a candidate in the upcoming legislative elections was killed when a roadside bomb blew up next to his vehicle as he was taking his mother to hospital, local police chief Malik Khan said.

The latest fighting comes three days after the US military operational commander in Afghanistan, Major-General Jason Kamiya, said that fighting in recent months had devastated the ranks of the Taliban.

More than 800 people have been killed in a major upsurge in violence since March, and US and Afghan officials have warned that it may threaten the parliamentary elections scheduled for 18 September.

Protests

Meanwhile, more than 1000 protesters on Tuesday chanted "Death to America" as they banged on the gates of the main US base in Afghanistan to demand the release of three local villagers detained in a raid.

The three men were arrested on Monday night in a raid on Dheymullah village, about 3km from Bagram base, said local government chief Kaber Ahmad.

"Those three were wanted by the Americans, but no one knows why," he said.

A US military spokeswoman in Kabul said she had no details about the demonstration.

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Op vrijdag 21 april 2006 20:25 schreef atmosphere1 het volgende:

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Nee, niet na 9/11 is Washington anders gaan denken ,maar de bevolking !! Bij het aantreden van Bush is Washinton anders gaan denken omdat onder andere de traditionele legertop werd vervangen door neo-conservatieven . De plannen voor die oorlogsvoering lagen al lang klaar en dat is eenvoudig te bewijzen.

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Op vrijdag 21 april 2006 20:57 schreef Krullehoofd het volgende:

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Toen Bush aantrad had hij meer een isolationistische instelling, gericht op de binnenlandse politiek. De Verenigde Staten zouden zich "humble" opstellen in de wereldpolitiek. Pas na 9/11 is Washington overgegaan op assertief unilateralisme met het resoluut inzetten van militaire middelen.

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Op vrijdag 21 april 2006 14:31 schreef alsem het volgende:

"de raket gaat maar een paar meter de grond in"

zo'n ding vliegt door 5 meter gewapend beton heen

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Op vrijdag 21 april 2006 21:00 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:

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Onzin. Rebuilding America's Defenses is uit 2000 en de plannen voor Irak lagen ook al ver voor 9/11 klaar.

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Bush's Faustian Deal With the Taliban
By Robert Scheer
Published May 22, 2001 in the Los Angeles Times


Enslave your girls and women, harbor anti-U.S. terrorists, destroy every vestige of civilization in your homeland, and the Bush administration will embrace you. All that matters is that you line up as an ally in the drug war, the only international cause that this nation still takes seriously.

That's the message sent with the recent gift of $43 million to the Taliban rulers of Afghanistan, the most virulent anti-American violators of human rights in the world today. The gift, announced last Thursday by Secretary of State Colin Powell, in addition to other recent aid, makes the U.S. the main sponsor of the Taliban and rewards that "rogue regime" for declaring that opium growing is against the will of God. So, too, by the Taliban's estimation, are most human activities, but it's the ban on drugs that catches this administration's attention.

Never mind that Osama bin Laden still operates the leading anti-American terror operation from his base in Afghanistan, from which, among other crimes, he launched two bloody attacks on American embassies in Africa in 1998.

Sadly, the Bush administration is cozying up to the Taliban regime at a time when the United Nations, at U.S. insistence, imposes sanctions on Afghanistan because the Kabul government will not turn over Bin Laden.

The war on drugs has become our own fanatics' obsession and easily trumps all other concerns. How else could we come to reward the Taliban, who has subjected the female half of the Afghan population to a continual reign of terror in a country once considered enlightened in its treatment of women?

At no point in modern history have women and girls been more systematically abused than in Afghanistan where, in the name of madness masquerading as Islam, the government in Kabul obliterates their fundamental human rights. Women may not appear in public without being covered from head to toe with the oppressive shroud called the burkha , and they may not leave the house without being accompanied by a male family member. They've not been permitted to attend school or be treated by male doctors, yet women have been banned from practicing medicine or any profession for that matter.

The lot of males is better if they blindly accept the laws of an extreme religious theocracy that prescribes strict rules governing all behavior, from a ban on shaving to what crops may be grown. It is this last power that has captured the enthusiasm of the Bush White House.

The Taliban fanatics, economically and diplomatically isolated, are at the breaking point, and so, in return for a pittance of legitimacy and cash from the Bush administration, they have been willing to appear to reverse themselves on the growing of opium. That a totalitarian country can effectively crack down on its farmers is not surprising. But it is grotesque for a U.S. official, James P. Callahan, director of the State Department's Asian anti-drug program, to describe the Taliban's special methods in the language of representative democracy: "The Taliban used a system of consensus-building," Callahan said after a visit with the Taliban, adding that the Taliban justified the ban on drugs "in very religious terms."

Of course, Callahan also reported, those who didn't obey the theocratic edict would be sent to prison.

In a country where those who break minor rules are simply beaten on the spot by religious police and others are stoned to death, it's understandable that the government's "religious" argument might be compelling. Even if it means, as Callahan concedes, that most of the farmers who grew the poppies will now confront starvation. That's because the Afghan economy has been ruined by the religious extremism of the Taliban, making the attraction of opium as a previously tolerated quick cash crop overwhelming.

For that reason, the opium ban will not last unless the U.S. is willing to pour far larger amounts of money into underwriting the Afghan economy.

As the Drug Enforcement Administration's Steven Casteel admitted, "The bad side of the ban is that it's bringing their country--or certain regions of their country--to economic ruin." Nor did he hold out much hope for Afghan farmers growing other crops such as wheat, which require a vast infrastructure to supply water and fertilizer that no longer exists in that devastated country. There's little doubt that the Taliban will turn once again to the easily taxed cash crop of opium in order to stay in power.

The Taliban may suddenly be the dream regime of our own war drug war zealots, but in the end this alliance will prove a costly failure. Our long sad history of signing up dictators in the war on drugs demonstrates the futility of building a foreign policy on a domestic obsession.

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Op vrijdag 21 april 2006 19:15 schreef -scorpione- het volgende:

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Dat was ook niet je vraag, je vroeg wat ik van de opium toename vond.

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Op vrijdag 21 april 2006 22:30 schreef sp3c het volgende:
dan krijgt Hugo er van langs

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Op vrijdag 21 april 2006 22:17 schreef 6833-228 het volgende:
Matig.... Dat is nog maar de vraag. Het lijkt er steeds meer op dat het allemaal deel uitmaakt van het "masterplan". Lees bijvoorbeeld dit eens:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20060418&articleId=2275

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Op vrijdag 21 april 2006 22:36 schreef Evil_Jur het volgende:
Natuurlijk, dan mogen de communisten weer

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Op vrijdag 21 april 2006 22:41 schreef Evil_Jur het volgende:
Maar dat is niet iets nieuws, zo gaat het al sinds de geschreven geschiedenis. En niet alleen door ons, maar ook door alle andere volken.

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Op vrijdag 21 april 2006 22:41 schreef Evil_Jur het volgende:
Maar dat is niet iets nieuws, zo gaat het al sinds de geschreven geschiedenis. En niet alleen door ons, maar ook door alle andere volken.

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Op vrijdag 21 april 2006 22:44 schreef NightH4wk het volgende:

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Alleen hebben wij nu een overvloed aan info en vroegah waarschijnlijk een groot tekort.

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Op vrijdag 21 april 2006 22:37 schreef NightH4wk het volgende:

Ben ook wel benieuwd hoe Hu en Bush de afgelopen dagen over Iran hebben gebabbeld, dat bezoek zou ook wel om bepaalde redenen rond deze tijd gepland zijn.