Loose change (nieuwe docu over 11 september)

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2005 11:04 schreef NullPointer het volgende:
als je echt een goede docu wil zien dan moet je naar www.infowars.com gaan, Alex Jones.

Martial Law 911, ook wel te downloaden ergens, wat hier naar voren komt is gewoon gruwelijk.

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Op woensdag 30 maart 2005 16:19 schreef Hallulama het volgende:
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Als ze met wargames bezig waren, kan het dan wellicht zo zijn dat die twee vliegtuigen misschien gewoon per ongeluk 't WTC invlogen? Dat zou wel erg sneu zijn, zo sneu dat ik er op een krankzinnige manier keihard om zou moeten lachen.

Straks waren die vliegtuigen onderdeel van een wargame, maar raakten ze van koers, door rekenfouten involving kilometers and miles.
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Resumé

George W. Bush
The White House, USA
EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE:

LAW ENFORCEMENT:
I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for driving under the
influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver's
license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving record has been "lost"
and is not available.

MILITARY:
I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take
a drug test or answer any questions about my Cocaine use. By joining the
Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam.

COLLEGE:
I graduated from Yale University with a below C average.

PAST WORK EXPERIENCE:
I ran for U.S. Congress and lost.
I began my career in the oil business in Midland, Texas, in 1975. I
bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas. The company
went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.
I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took
land using taxpayer money.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS:
I changed Texas pollution laws to favour power and oil companies, making
Texas the most polluted state in the Union. During my tenure, Houston
replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America. I cut
taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions in
borrowed money. I set the record for the most executions by any
governor in American history. With the help of my brother, the governor
of Florida, and my father's appointments to the Supreme Court t, I
became President after losing by over 500,000 votes.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:
I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a
criminal record. I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted
the U.S. Treasury. I shattered the record for the largest annual
deficit in U.S. history.

I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-
month period. I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-
month period.

I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the
U.S. stock market. In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans
lost their jobs. I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the
richest of any administration in U.S. history. My "poorest
millionaire," Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after
her.

I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S.
President. I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving
the most corporate campaign donations. My largest lifetime campaign
contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the
largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. History, Enron.

My political party used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to
assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election
decision. I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against
investigation or prosecution. More time and money was spent
investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent
investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-offs in history.

I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused
to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed. I
presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history. I changed
the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government
contracts.

I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any
President in U.S. history. I created the Ministry of Homeland Security,
the largest bureaucracy in the history of the United States government.
I've broken more international treaties than any President in U.S.
history.

I am the first President in U.S. history to have the United Nations
remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission. I withdrew the U.S.
from the World Court of Law. I refused to allow inspectors access to
U.S. "prisoners of war" detainees and thereby have refused to abide by
the Geneva Convention.

I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations election
inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election). I set the record for least
number of press conferences of any President since the advent of
television.

I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year
period. After taking off the entire month of August, I presided over
the worst security failure in U.S. history. I garnered the most
sympathy for the U.S. after the World Trade Centre attacks and less
than a year later made the U.S. the most hated country in the world,
the largest failure of diplomacy in world history. I have set the all-
time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in
public venues (15 million people), shattering the record for protest
against any person in the history of mankind.

I am the first President in U.S. history to order an unprovoked, pre-
emptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did
so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S.
citizens, and the world community. I have cut health care benefits for
war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops
and their families -- in war time.

In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our reasons for
attacking Iraq, then blamed the lies on our British friends. I am the
first President in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view
my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security. I am
supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical Bunker Buster," a WMD.

RECORDS AND REFERENCES:
All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now in my father's
library, sealed and unavailable for public view. All records of SEC
investigations into my insider trading and my bankrupt companies are
sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. All records or
minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President, attended regarding
public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public
review.

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Op zaterdag 23 april 2005 14:01 schreef Klonk het volgende:
boel te kijken, kom dan met een mening.

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"it does not matter if the war is not real. For when it is, victory is not possible. The war is not meant to be won, but it is meant to be continuous."

"A hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance, this new version is the past and no different past can ever have existed.
In principle the war effort is always planned to keep society on the brink of starvation. the war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects and its object is not the victory over either Eurasia or east Asia but to keep the very structure of society in tact."

"But by the fourth decade of the twentieth century all the main currents of political thought were authoritarian. The earthly paradise had been discredited at exactly the moment when it became realizable. Every new political theory, by whatever name it called itself, led back to hierarchy and regimentation. And in the general hardening of outlook that set in round about 1930, practices which had been long abandoned, in some cases for hundreds of years -- imprisonment without trial, the use of war prisoners as slaves, public executions, torture to extract confessions, the use of hostages, and the deportation of whole populations -- not only became common again, but were tolerated and even defended by people who considered themselves enlightened and progressive.

- George Orwell
1984

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Op zaterdag 23 april 2005 15:46 schreef Klonk het volgende:
@openyourmind, wat ik bedoelde is dat ik de boel eerst eens ga bekijken om mezelf een beeld en een mening te vormen, mischien niet helemaal duidelijk geformuleerd, sorry

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2005 11:07 schreef Aurora025 het volgende:

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Ja hier

Deel1
http://radio.indymedia.or(...)law_911__1_of_3_.wmv
Deel2
http://radio.indymedia.or(...)law_911__2_of_3_.wmv
Deel3
http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/martial_law_p03_bb.wmv

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Op zaterdag 23 april 2005 23:11 schreef Dskedar het volgende:

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Deel 1 en 2 gekeken. Ok, interessant. Maar waar de neuk gaat deel 3 over? Ik snap er niks van.

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John Loftus, is a former U.S. Department of Justice Nazi War Crimes prosecutor, the President of the Florida Holocaust Museum and the highly respected author of numerous books on the CIA-Nazi connection including The Belarus Secret and The Secret War Against the Jews, both of which have extensive material on the Bush-Rockefeller-Nazi connection.

Bron: How The Bush Family Made Its Fortune From The Nazis - The Dutch Connection (By John Loftus).pdf

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De familie Bush en nazi-Duitsland. (I)
[ deel I - deel II ]
Hoe staalbaron Thyssen en grootvader Bush Hitler groot maakten.

De familie Bush speelde een centrale rol in het financieren en bewapenen van Adolf Hitler voor zijn machtsovername in Duitsland. Ze hielp de kanonnenfabrikanten de nazi-oorlogsmachine op te bouwen. In de eerste oorlogsjaren streek de familie Bush de winst op van de slavenarbeid in de ertsmijnen van Auschwitz. Ze hielp de theorie van de 'raszuiverheid' ontwikkelen. De banden van de familie Bush met nazi-Duitsland.

Bron: http://www.dewaarheid.nu/okt01/prescott.htm

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Op zaterdag 23 april 2005 14:54 schreef OpenYourMind het volgende:

Het meeste van dit nieuws bereikt echter nooit het volk en zeker niet uitgebreid uitgelegd met de verbanden tussen de ontwikkelingen. Zolang iedereen zich laat inslapen en men geen behoefte heeft om te weten in wat voor wereld men leeft en hoe de wereld werkt en alleen zorgen maakt om het inkomen en materiele bezittingen is het misschien maar goed ook dat de elite de wereld stuurt en het volk manipuleert.

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Op zondag 24 april 2005 04:14 schreef Hallulama het volgende:

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Zolang wij er over discussiëren op FOK!, zolang wij er over praten, zolang wij het met onze vrienden en familieleden delen, zolang wij het laten leven en zolang wij de mens langzaam maar zeker laten ontwaken, is alles in orde.

Er zijn mensen die het niets interesseert omdat ze bang zijn of denken dat ze er niets aan kunnen doen, tegen die mensen zeg ik hetzelfde.

En let goed op:

"We must always fear the wicked. But there is another kind of evil that we must fear the most, and that is the indifference of good men."

Kortom, laat je niet gek maken, maar wees ook weer niet te onverschillig.

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Op zondag 24 april 2005 19:52 schreef UncleScorp het volgende:
ow sure ...

hun uitleg : "Even the black boxes have been recovered, the reason given for not playing the flight voice recorder for the media was that it wouldn't serve any use other than to cause more emotional pain to family members (I agree with them frankly). "

Zogezegde emotionele pijn bij nabestaanden primeert op het onderzoek naar een aanslag op het Pentagon ... ?
lol

En voor de videos van de beveiligingscamera's geldt hetzelfde principe zeker ?

Puur achterhouden van bewijsmateriaal !

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Op zaterdag 23 april 2005 13:28 schreef OpenYourMind het volgende:
Bijna 99% van alle 911 onderzoeksites en conspiracy theorien zijn bullshit en gemaakt om af te leiden van het grotere plaatje en de "werkelijke conspiracies".

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Op zondag 24 april 2005 22:02 schreef Klonk het volgende:
net de eerste 22 minuten gezien (zeg maar het pentagon gedeelte), vreemd, de feiten wijzen op heel iets anders dan dat de VS ons wil doen geloven.

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Op zondag 24 april 2005 22:10 schreef mouzzer het volgende:

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Het zijn alleen geen feiten maar veronderstellingen met vaak foute vergelijkingen. Zoals bijvoorbeeld het wegblazen van een auto door een vliegtuigmotor. In het filmpje wat ze laten zien staat het vliegtuig op de grond, in het echt kwam het vliegtuig dalend overvliegen dus de jetstroom stond niet naar de grond gericht. Ze zeggen dat er maar 1 punch out hole is dus is het een cruisemissle terwijl er 3 punch out holes zijn.

En zie de site hierboven met de ingedeukte en verschoven generator, een raket of klein militair vlieguig kan dat niet veroorzaakt hebben.

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Op zondag 24 april 2005 22:19 schreef Hallulama het volgende:

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Hoe kom je er bij dat er 3 "punch out" holes zijn?

Overigens kwam ik jaren geleden een filmpje tegen op het Internet waarop te zien was hoe een vliegtuig opsteeg, terwijl er parallel aan de startbaan een auto reed, welke de lucht in werd gezogen, een driedubbele salto mortale maakte, en vervolgens weer neerkwam, m.a.w., het voertuig hoeft zich niet per se in de "jetstroom" te bevinden, bij deze.

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Op zondag 24 april 2005 22:32 schreef mouzzer het volgende:

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Die 3 punch holes zijn zelfs te zien op de foto die ze in de docu gebruiken!

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Op zondag 24 april 2005 22:40 schreef Hallulama het volgende:

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Dat heb ik dan gemist geloof ik, op hoeveel minuten was dat, in de docu? Of staat die foto ook ergens online?

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Op zondag 24 april 2005 23:48 schreef Hallulama het volgende:
Wat ik trouwens minder vond aan de documentaire is het verhaal over dat een aantal kapers alive & well is. Als dat zo is, waarom laat je dan de kans voorbij gaan om die lui te vinden en te interviewen?

Maar wellicht komt dat nog

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Op maandag 25 april 2005 00:34 schreef Thief het volgende:
oh god.

bush heeft alles gedaan nou goed.


word echt gek van al die "conspiracy theory's" omtrent 911 die nergens op slaan.
zoek een hobby

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Op maandag 25 april 2005 00:34 schreef Thief het volgende:

word echt gek van al die "conspiracy theory's" omtrent 911 die nergens op slaan.

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Op maandag 25 april 2005 00:36 schreef MUUS het volgende:
Of jij onderbouwt je mening ipv alleen maar uit te halen naar iedereen die zogenaamd geen hobby heeft.

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Op maandag 25 april 2005 00:34 schreef Thief het volgende:
oh god.

bush heeft alles gedaan nou goed.


word echt gek van al die "conspiracy theory's" omtrent 911 die nergens op slaan.
zoek een hobby

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Op maandag 25 april 2005 07:06
[b]Eigenlijk zouden ze gewoon de amerikaanse staat moeten aanklagen wegens achterhouden (videos Pentagon) en vernietigen (puin WTC) van bewijsmateriaal in 1 van de grootste zaken van de eeuw !

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Op zondag 24 april 2005 23:42 schreef Hallulama het volgende:
Okay mouzzer, ik geloof dat ik hulp nodig heb, wat zijn hier volgens jou de 3 punch out holes?

Inflight phones, werken die krengen altijd, hangen die naast je stoel in business class, of moet je dat aanvragen als je aan boord bent?

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Op maandag 25 april 2005 07:56 schreef COLAIUTA het volgende:
Of het nou wel of niet een raket was e.d............ niet relevant.
In feite hoeven we ons helemaal niet met Punch holes bezig te houden.

In de trailer van Loose Change kun je duidelijk zien hoe de demolition charges op de hoeken van WTC 2 exploderen.

Als duidelijk is dat WTC7 is opgeblazen...... was alles van tevoren gepland..... dus een inside job.

Ik verwacht dat dit hele verhaal binnen 5 jaar wereldwijd bekend en geaccepteerd zal worden.

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Op woensdag 27 april 2005 00:09 schreef squealmaster het volgende:
Kijk, het is heel simple!
Ik noem hier een onomstotelijk bewijs dat het officiele verhaal niet klopt, maar er zijn er wel meer, maar goed ik houdt het op een.
De FEMA heeft een foto openbaargemaakt waarop een (en volgens mij was dat ook de enige die in het puinhoop lag) onderdelen van de motoren van de 757 die in het Pentagon is geknalt is. Ze hebben het het schoepenrad dat op de afbeelding staat geannaliseeed. Blijkt dat het schoepenrad niet eens van een 757 motor. Ik bedoel als er een 757 in het Pentagon knalt moet er toch op z'n minst onderdelen van een 757 liggen. DID I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR!!!

Nog vragen?....................

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Bush heeft over Irak gelogen, maasavernietigingswapens, MY ASS!!!
Olie zul je bedoelen.
Bush heeft over Afghanistan gelogen, Al-Qaida, MY ASS!!!
Afghanistan had hij nodig voor de pijpleiding die nu dwars door het land loopt om de olie van Osbekistan naar de dode zee te pompen om het daar aftetappen.
Bush heeft de verkiezingen twee keer kunnen manipuleren........en ga zo maar door.

Ik Bush ooit nog eens geloven?????......................NO WAY!!!!

Het komt er aan: NEW WORLD ORDER :

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Op woensdag 27 april 2005 00:09 schreef squealmaster het volgende:
Kijk, het is heel simple!
Ik noem hier een onomstotelijk bewijs dat het officiele verhaal niet klopt, maar er zijn er wel meer, maar goed ik houdt het op een.
De FEMA heeft een foto openbaargemaakt waarop een (en volgens mij was dat ook de enige die in het puinhoop lag) onderdelen van de motoren van de 757 die in het Pentagon is geknalt is. Ze hebben het het schoepenrad dat op de afbeelding staat geannaliseeed. Blijkt dat het schoepenrad niet eens van een 757 motor. Ik bedoel als er een 757 in het Pentagon knalt moet er toch op z'n minst onderdelen van een 757 liggen. DID I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR!!!

Nog vragen?....................

Bush heeft over Irak gelogen, maasavernietigingswapens, MY ASS!!!
Olie zul je bedoelen.
Bush heeft over Afghanistan gelogen, Al-Qaida, MY ASS!!!
Afghanistan had hij nodig voor de pijpleiding die nu dwars door het land loopt om de olie van Osbekistan naar de dode zee te pompen om het daar aftetappen.
Bush heeft de verkiezingen twee keer kunnen manipuleren........en ga zo maar door.

Ik Bush ooit nog eens geloven?????......................NO WAY!!!!

Het komt er aan: NEW WORLD ORDER :

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Ja.
Bron?

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Pop goes the Bush mythology bubble
Part 5: Exploding the myth of the Bushes as an all-American family

By Karl W. B. Schwarz
Online Journal Contributing Writer

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February 2, 2005—The Bushes are many things, but an All-American family they are not. There is something fundamentally wrong with these people and it goes past elitism and just basic snobbery. They might have "Oil on the Brain" to the point they are not even very human any more and we already know they are not humane at all.

They like to market "points of light" while they are lying to us and out snuffing out points of light all over the globe, especially those that could expose the sleaze that the family has come to represent. Now that Bush cannot find any WMD he likes to point to the "mass graves" without elaborating that about three of every five of those 500,000 dead Iraqis got into those mass graves when George H.W. Bush urged the Shiites and Kurds to rise up in 1991-1992 against Saddam and Bush 41 stood idly by while 300,000 or so of the 500,000 "excuse graves" were being filled, and now George W. points to them as a good reason for the invasion of Iraq.

Back during the Reagan Administration, Neocons Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush, George Shultz, Bechtel and others dreamed up a scheme to take over the Iraqi oil and install the Aqaba Pipeline. That matter lay dormant until April 11, 2003, when New York Times columnist Bob Herbert contacted Jock Covey, director of external communications (a euphemism and high-sounding title for "spin doctor") at Bechtel. A recent piece written by me addressed that Aqaba Pipeline and the fax Covey sent to Shultz to spin the response to Bob Herbert and the article he was writing and that appeared in print on April 14, 2003.

Mr. Covey's name comes up again in the next Part VI article, as does 9-11 Commission member John F. Lehman—so please pay attention.

We have been told by the Bush administration that American Airline Flight 77 was flown into the Pentagon by a "crack pilot" who was a marginal car driver. Hmm, I did not buy that story for even a second. That the Pentagon fire was so hot it vaporized most of a 60-ton airplane including cobalt jet engine parts that would not evaporate in the temperatures of a normal building fire, but they got enough human DNA to prove who was on the flight. Hmm, if it were hot enough to melt a plane including a cobalt heat resistant jet engine, human DNA recovery would have been impossible so I don't buy that fable either.

So, how do we prove that the "Official Bush Story" is actually the "Official Bush Lie?"

That has not been easy and we have had many working on this night and day for three years to get to the bottom of the matter.

After the Pentagon attack, the video cameras and tapes at a nearby CITGO, the Sheraton Hotel along I-395 and Virginia DOT cameras were all confiscated by the FBI and they have yet to disclose any of the contents that were recorded by those cameras. Those cameras would have recorded what came in to hit the Pentagon and if viewed by the public, all the world would know that it was not a Boeing 757, American Airlines Flight 77, as we were told. All the world would know that Bush's assertion is in fact a huge lie.

They cannot disclose those tapes without indicting themselves that it was the U.S. government and select "private sector outsourcing" that did the alleged terrorist attacks of 9-11. In short, our government would have to admit that it is al Qaeda and that this GWOT (Global War on Terror) is fabrication made up to provide excuses for a despicable U.S. energy and war policy.

The post-attack cleanup at the Pentagon shed some light on the fact that it was not a 757, but exactly what the part recovered was has not been easy to find or locate.

It is not a "turbofan" component, it is in fact a "turbojet" component from an US Air Force/Navy vintage type of jet engine technology that was used on just a limited number of fighters, bombers and reconnaissance planes.

There was one credible witness found that saw "a two-engine jet airplane, the engines were under the wings." That is a visual description of a 737, 757, or 767, but it is also a description of an A-3 Skywarrior.



It was very difficult to find the exact FAA certified company that is equipped, tooled or certified to work on the jet engines that were used in the A-3 Skywarrior. However, since the USAF and Raytheon still have some of the A-3s in flying order, we knew that there had to be a plant somewhere that was doing the repairs on what was otherwise a "decommissioned aircraft" such as the A-3.

By their own admission and website advertising propaganda, Praxair Surface Technologies is the only company FAA certified to work and rehabilitate worn out or corroded components of the Pratt & Whitney JT8D turbojet engine in question



"Your reliable source for Turbine Engine Fan Blade repairs is now providing total overhaul capability of JT8D Fan Hub Assembly repairs. Praxair is the only approved source to overhaul both blades and hub assemblies."

For those of you that do not pay attention to such things, 9-11 Commission member Jamie Gorelick sits on the board of directors of United Technologies and Pratt & Whitney is now owned by United Technologies. Former Bush EPA secretary Christine Todd Whitman also sits on the United Technologies board, and that is a company that is raking in big bucks due to Bush War Policy.

The front fan hub and compressor assembly of the Allison J33, J71 (now owned by Rolls Royce), and the Pratt & Whitney J57 and Pratt & Whitney JT8D as shown above are all fairly similar but they also have something else in common. There was just one conflict of interest on top of another on that 9-11 Omission Commission.



The bent out of shape piece shown on the FEMA photos is the front shaft bearing housing. What you are seeing above is a "balance test assembly," since jet engines do spin fast and have to be very accurately balanced. Jet engines do in fact have a "center shaft" and it must be balanced and it must have bearing seals front and back. The FEMA photo shows such a front seal and a rotor hub missing its fan blades. The key is the cleats on the outer perimeter that the fan blades attach to and these particular blades are easy to knock off in a collision such as that at the Pentagon.

The roll of masking tape in the background will give you an idea of scale, and then compare to the A-3 photos and the much larger fan needed for the 757 type of high bypass jet engine. In short, the Pentagon part is not from a 757, period.

Some of the team kept digging and they finally found what might be the actual type of part that was at the Pentagon. The part that is visible in the left of this photo could well be the exact part, and I can assure all that what you are looking at is not the front fan of a 757 jet engine. That is a 737 type of "turbojet" power plant and might well be in the "modified A-3 Skywarriors." I bet that jet mechanic from Evergreen Air (a known CIA affiliated company) can tell us where that fan blade comes from and do so in front of a Spitzer or Morganthau grand jury.



There is the "mystery part" and no, it is not part of a 757 jet engine and never has been. Oops!

They are all jet engine components (past and present) on the A-3 Skywarrior twin-turbojet airplane and on older versions of the 737. The USAF only has a few of the A-3s left in operation and what was formerly Hughes Aircraft, now Raytheon, has a fleet of them at Van Nuys, Calif. This type of turbojet engine has never been used on a Boeing 757, so the debate on "type of plane" can end there. This is a jet engine component with fan, not an auxiliary power unit (APU) as some have speculated or dropped into the conversation as disinformation.

What has been interesting is the level of "content blocking" that there is on the Internet where specific information regarding certain "jet engine components" such as those shown at the Pentagon have definitely been blocked. Our team had to take steps to go around the content blocks to get at the photos you are seeing regarding these rotor hub components.

That part has a specific UPN (Universal Part Number) and it cannot be found by looking for that UPN. Other measures were needed to find what you are seeing in these photos to circumvent what is apparently intentional content blocking. Someone has gone to considerable lengths to make sure that the actual components that were found at the Pentagon could not be found and it took my team over two years to hammer through such blocks to find three of these photos (Praxair and Evergreen) to verify the component.



Yes, Hughes aircraft had a fleet of them and was bought out by Raytheon. Hmm, that company is doing well for two reasons that I know of due to Bush war policy and even the move from Mode 4 to Mode 5 technology since the PRC got its hands on our top secret Mode 4 technology with that little Hainan Island incident and our Navy EP-3 that was forced down in April of 2001. As of Sept. 11, 2001, most air traffic controllers and National Air Guard units were not upgraded after the PRC got their hands on some of our most sensitive military technology.

Just stop and consider, if we can attack other nations with impunity and at will, we can attack ourselves too and cloak it from commercial operations just like we do in other nations.



The above photo is a launch of an AIM-54 Phoenix Missile, air-to-air missile. Making this launch an air-to-surface missile would not be a great feat and Hughes/Raytheon manufactures several such missiles that would blow a 16-foot diameter hole in the Pentagon with ease.

Type: AGM-65B (Air Force), AGM-65D (Air Force), AGM-65E (Marines), AGM-65F (Navy), AGM-65G (Air Force).

Contractors: Hughes Aircraft Co., Raytheon Co.
Propulsion: Thiokol TX-481 solid-propellant rocket motor (hint–burns white and leaves a white smoke trail at all altitudes and jet engines do not do that)
Service: Air Force, Marines, Navy
First Flight: 1984
IOC: 1994

This type of air-to-ground missile (AGM) is what is used to hit buildings and blow big holes in them, like the 16-foot diameter hole in the Pentagon. Note that 737s and 757 do not come equipped with such fire control systems or the mounting pods for the missiles, however, the A-3 Skywarrior is built to support the firing of such systems. The photo below of a modified A-3 landing clearly shows the missile-launching platform under the wing.



As you can tell from the above photo the A-3 Skywarrior is already configured for the AIM and AGM missiles and another hint is the change from the older nose design to the F16 nose design which includes "fire control systems" and a few other high tech devices.

Also note that jet engine fuel burning does not leave a white trail at sea level, only at higher and much colder altitudes. However, AGM type missiles burn solid rocket fuel and it leaves a white trail at all altitudes.



If you have seen the Pentagon photos that have been released regarding the jet engine part inside the Pentagon, the following is also a photo that is not part of a 757 engine that we have found, even in physically inspecting one inside a jet engine maintenance shop.

This following part is also not a 757 component; it is a component from the types of "dual chamber" turbojets represented by the Allison J33, J71, Pratt & Whitney J57 and JT8D.



They are called in the jet industry a "diffuser case" and the UPN content numbers on this particular item have been blocked and otherwise scrubbed on the Internet.



However, the following is the diffuser case design for the 757 jet engines and it is quite different from that shown at the Pentagon. That is due to the difference between "dual-chamber turbojet" versus the newer "high bypass jet fan" designs found on the 757 and 767 jet airplanes.





Note the triangular bezels around the openings and then note that the Pentagon diffuser case has no such openings or reinforcing points. The diffuser is built into a much larger component and not a separate component in the newer 757 type jet engines. This is a very large component within the 757 type of jet engine and there are two of them on every 757. Note, not a single one of these was found at the Pentagon and this is not a component that would have melted or evaporated in any manner at all.

Another component was found at the Pentagon in the form of a wheel hub. It did not take much to confirm that the particular wheel shown below is the type made by B.F. Goodrich in their aerospace division. They also made the wheels for the 757 but a simple proportional check of width versus diameter will easily show that the below photo is not of a wheel hub from a 757, which has a much larger radius than width. This radius being about the same as the width of the wheel hub is also another clue that the 757 story is a Bush Lie.



In fact, if one looks very closely at the diameter versus width of the tire that was found at the Pentagon, this is the type of tire used for carrier based and general rear wheels of smaller military planes, not commercial airliners. This is the type of wheel hub one would expect to find as one of the two rear wheels on an A-3 refitted with current equipment rather than equipment that is no longer being manufactured.



The information in this article has been hand-delivered to New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer.

This entire "American soldiers blood for oil" formula the Bush Family has stuck in their heads is about the lowest thing I have ever seen. Most Americans notice that they care not a bit, a common characteristic for nitwits, about the death and maiming of our soldiers or how many bogus enemies they are killing in the process. All they think about is oil and money, influence pimping and looking good for the cameras, while behind the scenes is a draconian and Machiavellian attitude towards all Americans that do not fit the Bush Family standards of wealth and elitism.

Ever wonder why this family seems to think sending people to die is just "another day at the office?" I wondered about that too and as I assembled One-Way Ticket to Crawford, Texas the answer became plenty clear to see. If one is a wealthy snob like them, it just doesn't matter if a person comes home dead, or alive, or maimed just as long as the big bucks keep flowing to the Bush Family and the Bush Cabal members (i.e. their wealthy elite friends).

Didn't you get the memo? This is all about the greater glory of the Bush Family and Big Oil and Big Military. They are better than other Americans. Don't believe me; just ask them. They and their friends think they can attack this nation and walk off scot-free and richer due to all of the chaos and plunder they created for Big Oil, Big Defense and Homeland Security expenditures that are mostly for their friends, not for you or me.

They do not see anything wrong at all with being so arrogant or despicable that they use military force when they and their commercially abusive "Financial Terrorist" friends cannot get certain foreign nations to do business with them. It does not seem to occur to them that "good US policy" might go a long way towards other nations wanting to do business with the U.S. and the "friends" they send over there to do such deals.

There is a big difference in an "insurgent enemy" and someone shooting at us because the Bush Family and their friends are thieves. If this were the 1800s, the Bush Family would be lynched and strung up in "hang 'em high" fashion for "rustling" what belongs to others.

Please sign the Justicefor9-11.org petition if you too demand the truth and justice regarding September 11, 2001. There is much truth to be found and we have a national capital that is filled with people that have an aversion to the truth. It is time that we as American citizens get to the bottom of what they fear so much and why they fear the truth. Also, sign the Sibel Edmonds petition, so that we can all know what names surfaced in what she translated at the FBI.

It is time for all Americans to wake up. Both of those petitions should have millions of signatures but Americans are asleep at the switch, wheel, TV, whatever.

It is time for the truth to be on the table for all to see. You can trust that you will not like the truth when you finally see them for what they are.

I do not buy their mythology because they are flat out lying to all of us. You can suffer that in silence or do something about it.

Karl W. B. Schwarz lives in Little Rock, AR and is the author of "One-Way Ticket to Crawford, Texas, a Conservative Republican Speaks Out." He is the President and Chief Executive Officer of Patmos Nanotechnologies, LLC and I-nets Security Systems, a designer of intelligence and communications UAV systems. You can email him here.

Part 1: The 9-11 Commission
Part 2: 9/11 Commission and Bridas
Part 3: 9-11 served a multitude of purposes
Part 4: More reasons to not investigate 9-11

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Op woensdag 27 april 2005 02:11 schreef merlin693 het volgende:

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http://www.onlinejournal.(...)z/020205schwarz.html

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One-Time GOP Insider Claims He Has Sept. 11 ‘Smoking Gun’


Architect of GOP Resurgence Says Boeing 737, not 767, Struck South WTC Tower


By Greg Szymanski

A former Republican Party insider turned Bush basher thinks he has stumbled across what may be the “smoking gun,” proving the U.S. government’s official story about the WTC attacks is an “unequivocal lie.”

Karl Schwarz of Little Rock, Ark., who several years ago began exposing corruption amongst the neo-conservative movement in a book entitled A One-Way Ticket to Crawford, Texas, now has set his sights on proving government complicity in 9-11.

For years, the successful business entrepreneur and conservative Republican, once asked by the RNC to run against Bill Clinton for Arkansas governor, has been using his inside political and business clout to expose corruption among the neo-cons in the Bush administration.

He strayed away from the Bush agenda two years after being one of the lead orchestrators in the Republican Party takeover of Congress during the Clinton administration.

“I designed the strategy that took the House and Senate from Clinton,” recalls Schwarz, also a strong supporter and strategist for President George H. W. Bush. “I designed that takeover two years before I realized the Republican ‘Contract with America’ was actually a ‘Contract on America.’ ”

After his political reawakening, Schwarz began blasting the neo-cons where it hurt most—in their pocketbooks—coming forward with evidence regarding oil deals and government involvement with the Taliban and Pakistan.

In his book and his ongoing seven-part series of articles entitled “Pop Goes the Bush Mythology Bubble,” he provides inside information about countless financial scams, essentially revealing that the Bush motive behind the Middle East invasion was more about oil profits than the war on terrorism.

Saying the neo-cons within the government are destroying America for their own corporate-global benefits, Schwarz doesn’t mince words and is calling for the impeachment of Bush, as well as removal of any member of Congress who aids and abets the corrupt powers.

Now, moving away from financial corruption, he has turned his attention to the 9-11 truth movement, saying he has found a piece of obscure video footage that shows that the government lied about what type of plane struck the south tower of the WTC.

Schwarz admits he had a “whole lot” of luck when running across the video footage in a French foreign film entitled The Barbarian Invasion.

Contained in the film unrelated to 9-11, is a 1 minute, 52 second, video segment, shot by an unknown amateur photographer at the WTC, which Schwartz says clearly shows a Boeing 737 airliner striking the south tower.

“We tracked down the filmmaker and he acquired the original WTC segment from the Canadian News Service,” said Schwarz, adding that he has had the tape analyzed by experts proving it’s not a fake. “We are tracking down the original photographer and want to get to him before the government does in order to prove its authenticity.

“This segment, however, conclusively shows a 737 hit the south tower, not a 767 as previously reported. This in itself should be the smoking gun, which proves the whole story given to us by the government about 9-11 is untrue.”

Originally, the government claimed the second jetliner en route to Los Angeles was a Boeing 767. However, Schwarz said the video will not only show the airline dimensions to be those of a 737, but that he also has evidence that the engine recovered in the WTC wreckage was a model type CFM56, which propels a 737, not a 767.

“Not even two CFM56’s could get a 767 off the ground,” added Schwartz.
Besides 9-11, Schwartz said three major areas that need to be thoroughly investigated regarding the Bush administration’s present policies include:

• Administration ties with Afghanistan, the Taliban and the Bridas Corp. Schwarz claims a high-ranking Bridas executive is one of his main sources, implicating the Bush administration with corruption involving the Taliban and the Afghan invasion.

• Information implicating 9-11 commission members with direct and indirect financial benefits due to the Bush policies in the Middle East.

“Whistleblowers Sibel Edmonds, Karen Kwiatkowski and others whom I cannot disclose without jeopardizing their safety, including many members of the armed services, have acted as my main sources,” said Schwarz.

Asked how he would describe himself, since many critics may consider him a disgruntled Republican, he said:

“I am conservative, fiscally responsible, an ecumenical Christian and an American patriot who clearly understands fascism and clearly sees this is exactly what is going on within the Bush administration.

“To answer my critics, they can say whatever. However, those who read my book will clearly see that the main problem now facing America has been caused and amplified by the last three presidential administrations, Bush I, Clinton and Bush II.”


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Op woensdag 27 april 2005 02:11 schreef merlin693 het volgende:

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http://www.onlinejournal.(...)z/020205schwarz.html
Wacht even:

Een A3 skywarrior heeft Pratt & Whitney J57-P-10s motoren
http://www.boeing.com/history/mdc/skywar.htm
De Pratt & Whitney JT8D's worden oa in boeing 727 en 737 gebruikt:
http://www.pratt-whitney.com/prod_comm_jt8d.asp
De Pratt & Whitney PW2000 zit in de Boeing 757:
http://www.pratt-whitney.com/prod_comm_pw2000.asp

Dus dat hele motoren verhaal klopt niet.

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Schwarz: Yes, in fact, there's two types. One of them, they use it on the, what's called an A3 Sky Warrior. And the A3 Sky Warrior has had, at last count, four different types of jets [engines] on them. But some of it is older technology going all the way back to the Allison J33, and Allison J71, which all of those are burned up years ago. It doesn't even pay to try to repair them anymore. And what this is is either a Pratt and Witney 57 or a Pratt and Witney JT8D.

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Op woensdag 27 april 2005 14:56 schreef merlin693 het volgende:

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http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/one-time_gop_insider.html

Click here to see the video

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Op donderdag 28 april 2005 00:16 schreef merlin693 het volgende:
[afbeelding] screenshot van de bewuste video

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Op woensdag 27 april 2005 15:03 schreef merlin693 het volgende:

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lezen mijn beste Knarf

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Discover the Truth about the Events surrounding 9-11-01 via Video Presentations from some of the top Scholars, Researchers, and Analysts from the International Community.

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Op donderdag 28 april 2005 17:34 schreef grr het volgende:

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http://www.911busters.com/

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Op donderdag 28 april 2005 18:00 schreef grr het volgende:
Zie het probleem niet, explain

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Op vrijdag 29 april 2005 09:37 schreef HIHIHIHI het volgende:

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Slim Shady is AIVD....... of ontzettend dom.

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Op zaterdag 23 april 2005 13:28 schreef OpenYourMind het volgende:
Bijna 99% van alle 911 onderzoeksites en conspiracy theorien zijn bullshit en gemaakt om af te leiden van het grotere plaatje en de "werkelijke conspiracies".

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Op zaterdag 23 april 2005 13:28 schreef OpenYourMind het volgende:
Bijna 99% van alle 911 onderzoeksites en conspiracy theorien zijn bullshit en gemaakt om af te leiden van het grotere plaatje en de "werkelijke conspiracies".

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Op vrijdag 29 april 2005 13:53 schreef SlimShady het volgende:

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Wat heeft het met domheid te maken Ik vertrouw het gewoon niet.
OpenYourMind heeft me overtuigd.
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Op vrijdag 29 april 2005 18:51 schreef OpenYourMind het volgende:

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In dit geval zou ik toch even verder kijken als ik jouw was

http://www.911busters.com/video/IQ1_09_MIKE_RUPPERT_38.02_.wmv
http://www.911busters.com(...)SKY_VIDEO_21.47_.wmv

Deze zijn wel degelijk erg goed. Deze twee heren spreken voornamelijk over de economische, geopolitieke en strategische redenen + heel veel informatie die je niet zomaar uit de media krijgt. Dit zijn verruit de beste analisten van 911 die ik tot nu toe ben tegengekomen.

Ze houden beiden lezingen en van allebei zijn er wel opnamen van hun lezingen op internet te vinden.

Zoek naar onderstaande lezingen als je er meer van wilt zien.
- Truth and lies of 911 (Michael Ruppert)
- War and Globalization - The Truth Behind September 11 (Michel Chossudovsky)

De rest van de filmpjes heb ik nog niet gezien.

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Op zaterdag 30 april 2005 01:59 schreef OpenYourMind het volgende:
Ik heb nu de eerste 3 gezien plus degene die ik hierboven heb gelinked. Ik kan niet wachten om de rest te bekijken.

Dit is de beste samenvatting van de status van de wereld waarin wij nu leven die ik tot nu toe gezien heb. Een complete analyse die zoveel verder gaat dan alleen 9/11. De verschillende sprekers vertellen elk hun eigen verhaal en alle puzzle stukjes vallen één voor één op de juiste plek.

Veel van deze informatie is wel verspreidt te vinden in boeken en op internet, maar nergens zo goed gebundeld en gekoppeld als hier. Hartelijk dank voor de link!

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Op zaterdag 30 april 2005 14:55 schreef Oo-blackgirl-oO het volgende:

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Goeie zaak allemaal dat dit zowiezo uitkomt, maar men moet niet vergeten dat dit ook een strategie is. Het plan was nl. deze fouten te begaan opdat de wereld Amerika gaat haten.

Om tot 1 centrale wereld-regering te komen, (waarvan de thuis-basis niet in Amerika zal liggen) is het belangrijk dat Amerika Politiek, Economisch en Moreel kapot gemaakt wordt.

Waakt u ervoor dat u haat niet gevoed wordt door deze strategieen. U zou als een 'puppet on strings' zijn en dat is precies wat ze hopen te bereiken

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Op zaterdag 30 april 2005 16:41 schreef SlimShady het volgende:
Ik heb de 2 filmpjes gezien die in de post van OpenYourMind stonden.
Op zich was het overtuigend en geloofwaardig. Maar wat heb je eigenlijk aan deze informatie?
Ze zeiden wel van "create communities" en verspreid deze informatie over Amerika... En dan?
Of het komt uitgebreid in de media, maar dat betwijfel ik.
Iedereen vreest voor zijn leven, na de moord op Dr David Kelly.

Het zou me ook niks verbazen als Nederlandse vriendjes van Bush dit meelezen.

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Op zaterdag 23 april 2005 13:31 schreef OpenYourMind het volgende:
Als toegift nog een kort filmpje uit de lezing van Michael Ruppert - Truth and lies of 911.

Michael Ruppert - The Grand Chessboard