I want to offer to talk with any of you about what I know from my own experiences with the alien races that are visiting Earth. Jack and I have been teaching in the UFO field for 14 years. We teach about the aliens themselves for the purpose of furthering public education about them.
I am honest and sincere. I don't know everything, but what I do know is firsthand. I do not represent the UFO field, I represent the alien races. I do not claim to have personal evidence but the evidence of visitation is all over our world and throughout our history. I help others understand what is going on between our worlds, especially for other alien experiencers and the investigators of them. I help those who have contact to open communication with their alien contacts and get to know them as people.
I am very curious to know, what is your public consensus about the alien visitation to our world? Do you have many claims of personal sightings and experiences with the alien beings? How are people treated when they make claims? Do you have any serious professionals who are sharing information on TV or giving seminars?
Thank you for having me.
i do have contact with several scourses that have clearance into the files.
if what you say is true , i am interrested , in your information.
please do contact me personal on the following mail.
calamarimonitor@yahoo.com
i await your response.
Regards.
A few years ago someone from France told me that he had experience with reptilian or alien races. First I thought it was a ludicrous theory, but after further research and having read several of David Ickes books I came to the conclusion that much what he said was probably correct.
My question is if the reptilians David Icke talks about are maybe one of the alien races you know.
And what do you think what Icke says about the shapeshifting reptilians?
I hope you can answer my questions.
quote:Sure you do, If the aliën race (or whatever race) is smart, they exterminate the human spiesies. And because we are still here, there is no smart aliën race of whatever. And no fucking human has the rights to say that they I represent the alien races wtihout any hard evidence.Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 18:50 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
Hai, Everyone. My name is Nancy Malacaria. My husband's name is Jack. I followed a link from my page counter and found some discussions about my site posted by Aurora025 at Buitenaards Leven Toegegeven , gezworen op Congress&god. (3) I speak only English so I can't read all of the discussion.
I represent the alien races
Thank you for having me.
Although i believe in a form of external life from other planets, you representation is crap, bullshit and nothing more then a story from a dreamers mind.
with regards,
LD.
http://www.theprojectatearth.com
There is a "reptilian" race that visits Earth. That is, their appearance resembles our reptiles, however they are not reptiles in any way. They are a fine race of people who have had many stories professionally fabricated or exaggerated about them. Also many humans who meet them automatically assume the worst in their own minds.
David Icke collects data and assembles it with his own enticing ideas of gore. He is dishonest and does not personally know anything at all about the alien races. The alien races have no power in our governments, and no position in our governments. No people on Earth are alien beings at all.
I do not know if the race we humans call reptilians has the ability to shape-shift, but many races do, as it is natural to them.
Als er 'een buitenlands ras' is WAAROM in godensnaam zullen ze zich dan laten vertegenwoordig door mien huppelkut uit de middle of nowhere?
welcome to this forum.
very interesting some of the things that you are saying.
can you maybe tell us about the last crop circle in the Wiltshire fields=
it represents 2 calendars, 1 from the mayan and it´s giving us a warning. do you know anything about that=
"The Project At Earth is the organization of all the races that visit Earth. It is run by the aliens- for the aliens. There is only one Project At Earth and it is already thousands of years old. Other Projects are for other worlds."
Many people study the ufo field. They read and they write. They talk to people who make claims. The ufo field is made up of all the things so many humans think, with or without recognizing any of the evidence.
I offer another point of view from the alien races themselves. Like I said, I don't know everything, but my experiences with them is firsthand, extensive and intricate. What I learn from the aliens themselves is designed for the purpose of sharing it with others, not proving it.
Your point of view is appreciated, but I would like to be allowed to share my information despite disbelief and skepticism, anyway. I hope you will let me stay, because education is at least as important as evidence. Without education, average people cannot even think about the evidence for themselves. Without education, the people will keep believing their leaders when they demand, "It was a weather balloon."
Evidence can make people believe "anything" you want them to believe, right or wrong. It is vital that people be allowed to hear the original stories from ordinary people, and to learn about all of the possibilities. Only then can they get to know the alien races, and decide about the aliens for themselves.
I am not a strange person, or fabricating any stories, or advertising. Please allow me to join a discussion without abuse.
er is zelfs een topic door iteejer over gemaakt.
hoe haal je het in je hoofd om zo grof te reageren
ik dacht dat je een redelijk persoon was.
Thank you for the welcome. I am not familiar with that formation but if you give me a link to a photo, I will see if I can tell whether it is authentic or fake. Most are fake, though.
quote:Some of the leading governments have had limited contact with a few of the alien races visiting Earth. The leading governments tried to force these particular alien races into sharing technologies by threat. The threats were to the aliens when possible, and to the individual humans who worked with these alien races. There is no longer any devious contact going on between those races and the governments.Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 20:09 schreef Aurora025 het volgende:
Thanks for the quick answer. You say the aliens have no power in the goverment, but has the government contact with alien races? Is there really no connection between the Illuminati families and the reptilians?? If you look at historical facts and symbols one might say that there should be a connection.
There is no connection whatsoever between "the Illuminati families" and the reptilians and never has been.
There are historical facts and symbols to find that can be used to indicate just about anything somebody wants them to indicate to others.
quote:No people in power on Earth have ever shape shifted. The "eyewitnesses" are not authentic, although only one person has to claim that "many" eyewitnesses have claimed it, and many people will repeat that and believe that.Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 20:13 schreef Aurora025 het volgende:
And what about all the eyewitnesses who saw people in power shapeshift? Do you know why a lot of people in powerfull positions do satanic rituals? Does that anything has to do with reptilians or aliens?
I do not know who does satanic rituals. I do not personally know that to be true. But none of our visiting races, including the race we call "reptilians" has anything to do with any human religions or cults or satanic rituals.
quote:Wat heeft redelijkheid te maken met de belachelijkheid dat hier zomaar vanuit het niets de profete haarzelf binnen komt om te zeggen dat ze de woordvoerdster is van alle buitenaardse rassen, maar dat ze niet beschikt over enige vorm van bewijs. Ja ik ben de woordvoerder van de Illuminatie maar tja iedereen weet dat die er zijn dus ik heb niet de beschikking over harde bewijzen.Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 20:23 schreef BaajGuardian het volgende:
zeg lord dreamer , ik dacht dat het niet de bedoeling was op dit forum om mensen voor gek te verklaren om wat ze vertellen
er is zelfs een topic door iteejer over gemaakt.
hoe haal je het in je hoofd om zo grof te reageren
ik dacht dat je een redelijk persoon was.
zelfde verhaal , andere inslag. bullshit dus.
quote:I am not saying that you are not welcome. But if you have the arrogance to say that you represent the aliën races, you should allready know that as a human you should provide some evidence and not by giving stories but by proving it trough hard copy. pictures / movies / technologisch etc. If you want to educate , then educate everything you ( and the ones who you said to represent) know.Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 20:21 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
LD
Many people study the ufo field. They read and they write. They talk to people who make claims. The ufo field is made up of all the things so many humans think, with or without recognizing any of the evidence.
I offer another point of view from the alien races themselves. Like I said, I don't know everything, but my experiences with them is firsthand, extensive and intricate. What I learn from the aliens themselves is designed for the purpose of sharing it with others, not proving it.
Your point of view is appreciated, but I would like to be allowed to share my information despite disbelief and skepticism, anyway. I hope you will let me stay, because education is at least as important as evidence. Without education, average people cannot even think about the evidence for themselves. Without education, the people will keep believing their leaders when they demand, "It was a weather balloon."
Evidence can make people believe "anything" you want them to believe, right or wrong. It is vital that people be allowed to hear the original stories from ordinary people, and to learn about all of the possibilities. Only then can they get to know the alien races, and decide about the aliens for themselves.
I am not a strange person, or fabricating any stories, or advertising. Please allow me to join a discussion without abuse.
but that is my way of the believing in anyone who claiming to represent any aliënrace.
So be my guest and join the discussion.
quote:The goals are ongoing. The present main goal is to build a diplomatic relationship with our world. Our world will one day join our local group of worlds. The immediate goal is to bring education about other races in the Universe to humans.Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 20:19 schreef Aurora025 het volgende:
Can you tell me what the final goal or reason is of the alien project which is thousands of year old as you say?
"The Project At Earth is the organization of all the races that visit Earth. It is run by the aliens- for the aliens. There is only one Project At Earth and it is already thousands of years old. Other Projects are for other worlds."
This happens with every world. We are very young in our evolution, and most other worlds are "much" future advanced and evolved than we are. All advanced races visit their neighboring worlds and ally with each other. This is the way to ensure peace between them.
It is difficult for a new race of people like us to fathom unity between races, since we cannot even fathom peace between our own countries yet. Having peace does not mean there are no differences -- it means that all parties agree to solve them the best way possible.
It is time in our evolution to be clued into the ways of traveling races. Every world of intelligent life gets to this point. Peace in our part of the galaxy depends on our responsible behavior. What we are still doing on Earth now will create a great deal of disruption if we begin to travel and start doing these things near other worlds of people.
ik dacht dat je haar belachelijk maakte alleen omdat het over buitenaards + claim ging.
maar je wilt dus eerst bewjzen zien.
daar kan ik inkomen , ik vraag het haar zelf ook al via email.
And if the aliens races are so advanced they have to see that life will be destroyed with the insane "war on terror" and other things that are going on. Don't they whant to help the humans on earth? Are they all peacefull or are there some who are cruel and want to destroy us to gain control over the world?
quote:I have no evidence. I have knowledge, and I do not mind being disbelieved. Only the aliens control the evidence of themselves and they do not give it to individual humans to bear the burden of. It is dangerous to have it, and it makes a public speaker into a target.Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 20:42 schreef Lord Dreamer het volgende:
I am not saying that you are not welcome. But if you have the arrogance to say that you represent the aliën races, you should allready know that as a human you should provide some evidence and not by giving stories but by proving it trough hard copy. pictures / movies / technologisch etc. If you want to educate , then educate everything you ( and the ones who you said to represent) know.
but that is my way of the believing in anyone who claiming to represent any aliënrace.
So be my guest and join the discussion.
Instead, when people see things for themselves, the kind of things I know about can help them a great deal.
Thank you for letting me stay.
Having lurked in the shadows whilst enthusiasts debated the operations and visits of outlandish races to our planet for some time now (and, frankly, chuckling at the Himalayan errors characteristic of their historical persuasions), I am dying to know what commerce our ancestors enjoyed with said races.
Though this is obviously not a game show, I do request you point five of these relations for the following periods:
The New Kingdom of Egypt
The wandering of the Greeks
The dawn of Mesopotamian civilization
The period of troubles in Inca civilization
And, just for good measure:
The Thirty Years War
Please receive my gratitude in advance.
Yours truly,
CW.
quote:Hai, NglnEOp zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 20:48 schreef NgInE het volgende:
welcome EarthSister. but please tell me; why should i see you as a reliable source on this subject? do you have any proof whatsoever to back-up your theories. sorry i'm being sceptical, but it's just that any person could make statements like these and altough i do believe some of them are correct, i also think that there is alot of false ones.
You are right. Many people make up things. Many people in the ufo field who claim to have experiences, really do not have any at all. Also, many who do have personal experiences exaggerate or lie about them by mistake or on purpose. It is peer pressure and the desire to belong to a group that make them do that. Most people who have experiences, only have a few vague encounters, and then they read up on all the different ideas, and believe whatever they are told by "professionals" about what really happened to them. People do not know what to think, so they will assume what everyone else assumes.
Not all alien experiencers are the same. So few experiencers have physical contact or open communication with their alien contacts. Few humans have the ability or the desire to take the opportunity to be educated by the alien races.
The only proof I ever have, is when somebody else has an alien experience with me and they remember it. This usually happens at times when I have been helping somebody get to know their own alien contacts. Still, this is personal proof for that person, not open proof for anybody else to use or misuse.
I offer common sense, advanced concepts of nature to think about, and understanding of the other races in the Universe as people. You always learn something when you listen. Maybe if you get to know me a little, you will learn something even if you don't believe it. You probably will not find any hard reason to believe me, unless you have alien experiences yourself and you find some of the things I say are true for yourself.
No one person should be it, because many many people have alien experiences and do their best to relay what they learn. No human can describe what we see of such advanced life. No human could handle all of the things there are to tell. You can probably tell when somebody is sincere, and that itself should be enough to keep you listening.
It takes a long time to learn about alien life. There are so many things to think about and consider before you could ever believe. It's not like religion where you are expected to just say, Ok. You cannot possibly believe in something that you do not know anything about yet. To learn about it, just keep looking and listening, but mostly think for yourself.
If it was not happening to me, I would not believe it either. I would believe "something" but I would not know what that something should be. If you stop listening, you stop learning. Don't worry about believing. After you learn some things, not just from me, but from many people, you will then be able to decide some things for yourself.
thats my response bye bye bye
quote:There is nothing anybody knows about the year 2012. Lots of things happen every year, and perhaps by chance something big will happen that year, but there is nothing planned for it. A lot of people feel excited, and have focused that excitement on that date because somebody made it popular. People always do that.Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 20:55 schreef Aurora025 het volgende:
What about the year 2012, does that has something to do with it?
And if the aliens races are so advanced they have to see that life will be destroyed with the insane "war on terror" and other things that are going on. Don't they whant to help the humans on earth? Are they all peacefull or are there some who are cruel and want to destroy us to gain control over the world?
The alien races see everything we are doing. They see the possibilities of destruction with the things that are going on here. They want "desperately" to help, but this is our own world, not theirs. They have strict jurisdiction and cannot take over. The best way they help is through individual humans. Any humans who has contact may get good ideas and encouragement from their own contacts, but the aliens can't make anybody do anything.
All of the alien races visiting Earth are peaceful. Note, I did not say Holy or Perfect. They are "the professionals" of their races, here on their missions to work between worlds with their crews. It is not too much unlike the peace corps. When you go to another country to help, you can only try to offer help and guidance. If you take over, all of their problems become your own, and the people will work against you.
There were a few races visiting Earth who were taking advantage of particular humans because they needed some things, and because they could not ask us for it, and they could just take it from us, and there was no prevention for it. It was not deliberate abuse, but it had to be ended, and it has been ended. Now no races who do not belong here can visit Earth.
All of the races visiting Earth are here to help and to ally with our world. The differences are not unpeaceful. Not all of them are good at working with humans as others, but communication and understanding makes all of that much easier on all of us.
quote:All of Earth's governments know of the existence and of alien life, and of their visitation to Earth, and of the cover-up by the leading governments. Not all governments are in agreement with the cover-up, but they are forced to comply with the leading governments, at least for now.Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 21:00 schreef Aurora025 het volgende:
I heard the government knows the existence of alienraces and are planning to slowly let humans used to the fact that they excist by showing movies on this subject and saying that there will be life on mars and so on. Is that true?
The leading governments are only doing "everything" they can to ruin true information about the alien races. But the governments cannot hide the aliens, they can only discredit them and blackmail them, and threaten them. As long as the publics think alien life is not real, or that they are monsters, the people will continue to believe what the government says about them. But when people start to learn about the aliens for themselves, they find out that the government is hiding something that they themselves are doing. The governments will "never" disclose the truth. The aliens are doing it though.
Education is not going to come from any government, at least not for now, not from these governments. The education about the aliens can only come from the aliens.
The leading governments do not want the aliens here. The alien races are a threat to the deplorable way they are running our world. Things need to change on Earth, and when people learn about the alien races, they are going to find out that our governments had access to much better ways of life and running things all this time.
Right now, the only information that comes out of the governments about the aliens is propaganda. It is the aliens who are increasingly showing themselves and meeting with individual humans in order to make the publics aware of their presence and true intentions.
quote:You claim so much earth sister where can we read these stories that you are writing here.Shape shifting dind't they ivented that in Star trek(Gene Roddenberry).Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 21:43 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
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There is nothing anybody knows about the year 2012. Lots of things happen every year, and perhaps by chance something big will happen that year, but there is nothing planned for it. A lot of people feel excited, and have focused that excitement on that date because somebody made it popular. People always do that.
The alien races see everything we are doing. They see the possibilities of destruction with the things that are going on here. They want "desperately" to help, but this is our own world, not theirs. They have strict jurisdiction and cannot take over. The best way they help is through individual humans. Any humans who has contact may get good ideas and encouragement from their own contacts, but the aliens can't make anybody do anything.
All of the alien races visiting Earth are peaceful. Note, I did not say Holy or Perfect. They are "the professionals" of their races, here on their missions to work between worlds with their crews. It is not too much unlike the peace corps. When you go to another country to help, you can only try to offer help and guidance. If you take over, all of their problems become your own, and the people will work against you.
There were a few races visiting Earth who were taking advantage of particular humans because they needed some things, and because they could not ask us for it, and they could just take it from us, and there was no prevention for it. It was not deliberate abuse, but it had to be ended, and it has been ended. Now no races who do not belong here can visit Earth.
All of the races visiting Earth are here to help and to ally with our world. The differences are not unpeaceful. Not all of them are good at working with humans as others, but communication and understanding makes all of that much easier on all of us.
What raises are you talking about, in which part of the world did they came etc.
Iam very sorry i dont buy this crap.
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quote:I know, a lot of people feel that way. If I hear of any relation between those things from my alien contacts, I will tell you. But I have only been told in many ways and discussions that these things are part of the massive propaganda campaign launched to confuse issues and keep people afraid and mistrustful.Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 21:12 schreef Aurora025 het volgende:
I still believe that there is a connection between 2012, illuminati, war on terror and reptilians or aliens.
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Is the cosmic paranoia some people exhibit warranted?
quote:Do you have physical contact with them or do you communicate with them trough thought? I took a look at your website and wonder how you know what they look like?Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 21:58 schreef EarthSister het volgende:my alien contacts
Thank you for answering
P.S.: I do believe in other lifeforms in the universe, but have some difficulty with your story (so far I read nothing new, although I understand you can't tell everything for now.....maybe).
quote:Ik vind het wel interessant, misschien weet ze er echt wel meer van. Dus wacht nog maar even met lachen, heh.Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 22:28 schreef newsman het volgende:
heeeeeeeeeeeee Morwen leuk stuk he hahahahahahahahaa
Jij vind het stiekum ook retespannend, geef nou maar toe
En nee, ik hoef geen antwoord, offtopic endezo......we wachten gewoon de info af
I believe in aliens and I would love to see them some day. Is there any chance that I would see one of there UFO's or meet them? If there is, how big is that chance?
quote:Ze zegt niet dat ze een profete is hoor, newsman, ze zegt dat ze contact heeft met Aliens....das toch wat andersOp zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 22:42 schreef newsman het volgende:
Uhhh Morwen sorry dat ik lachte maar dat mens zegt zonder bron dat ze een of andere profete is ofzo.Maar goed ik wil eerst haar bron vermelding wel is zien wat JIj Morwen.
En bronvermelding? Ach, zijn wij niet allemaal bronnen van kennis. Zij spreekt uit ervaring zoals zovelen en is dat dan minder waar als keiharde feiten?
Ik zou het in ieder geval jammer vinden als ze zich niet welkom voelt om het hier met ons te delen. Dat moet je toch met me eens zijn
. Ik ben in ieder geval heel benieuwd hoe zij contact legt met Buitenaards leven en daar gaat het hier om, nietwaar?Dit schrijft ze dus ze heeft totaal geen aanwijzingen, maar ze vertegenwoordig wel alle buitenaardse rassen.vreemd dus.Trouwens bezoek ook eens haar website blijkt ze een schoonmaak bedrijf te hebben enz. Haar man en zei zijn beiden alien teachers, en ze vragen er geen vergoeding voor.Goed ik geloof in god, heb wel is een vreemde verschijning gezien.Maar ik vind dit alles een hele vreemde verschijning, begrijp me niet verkeerd.Tis allemaal fantastisch bedacht om aandacht te trekken.
Dan nog ff een punt op haar website staan twee getekende plaatjes van aliens met hun naam en hun missie, als je zon lang gesprek hebt gehad met een alien waarom heb je hem dan niet op de foto gezet.Vind hun fotos wel aardig staan op die website moet ik zeggen.
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I'm not really interested in aliens until one will land in my backyard and have a cup of tea or something. It is refreshing to finally see someone who doesn't ask money for teachings or spreads more fears into people's lives.
So my question would be what kind of teachings do you want to share and if possible, ask some alien how they see the view of "sunyata"
regards!
quote:Hai, newsmanOp zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 21:56 schreef newsman het volgende:
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You claim so much earth sister where can we read these stories that you are writing here.Shape shifting dind't they ivented that in Star trek(Gene Roddenberry).
What raises are you talking about, in which part of the world did they came etc.
Iam very sorry i dont buy this crap.
I have some writings on my website. I hope to have my journals published some day, but for now I am just talking with people.
Star Trek did not invent shapeshifting, but maybe they thought of it too. Or maybe Gene got some of his ideas for his shows from accounts of alien experiencers. Maybe he never believed the accounts either.
There are 218 races visiting Earth. I live in Massachusetts USA. This is where I have seen my own contacts, but they visit their humans all over the world, mostly in the leading nations.
That's ok if you don't believe it.
I don't expect it. But it's true.Greets
Newsman.
Ps: Can you give me the names of all 218 races that visit us hear on are planet.
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quote:Dat heb ik haar ook gevraagd, je zal even geduld moeten hebben. Sommige mensen hebben ook nog gewoon een leven buiten het internet..........vreemd maar waarOp zondag 22 augustus 2004 00:19 schreef newsman het volgende:
Dan nog ff een punt op haar website staan twee getekende plaatjes van aliens met hun naam en hun missie, als je zon lang gesprek hebt gehad met een alien waarom heb je hem dan niet op de foto gezet.
.quote:Hai, GattsOp zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 22:13 schreef Gatts het volgende:
I've read the entire topic, and the only question that i have is: Do you have any examples of your own encounters, and how do you know so much about this subject? The only things you're telling us are facts. Why don't you tell us anything regarding your own experiences?
I have some writings on my website. http://www.theprojectatearth.com/ChapterOne.html
My site tells some things, but you can learn much more in talking with me.
I have had encounters all my life with different kinds of beings. It was normal to me. Although extraordinary, nothing too strange happened that I did not hear also happened to other people. I did not know that some of the beings that I saw and talked with were people from other worlds until they made themselves known to my husband and me, and they started to teach us things about themselves.
There are both natural and technological aspects to contact with beings of such different biology. We cannot share the same atmosphere to be together in it face to face, but their abilities make effecting this easy for them. They use dimensional technologies as well as telepathy and out of body visitation. This is the normal way of meeting between all advanced races of people.
quote:This looks like it depicts a member of the "reptilian" race. It is not exactly what they look like, but people's perceptions and artistry vary. Also, there are many races visiting, and I do not know whether there is another race that resembles "reptilians" that we commonly refer to.Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 20:49 schreef Aurora025 het volgende:
Nancy, is this a known alienrace to you?
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Jack and I have met the race called reptilians and they are a fine race of people. They are not one of the races we work closest with, but they are members of the organization. All of Earth's visiting races are working together now.
quote:Hai, Johan_de_WithOp zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 22:15 schreef Johan_de_With het volgende:
That's another thing I've been meaning to ask:
Is the cosmic paranoia some people exhibit warranted?
Look around. What do you think?
quote:Hai, MorwenOp zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 22:15 schreef Morwen het volgende:
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Do you have physical contact with them or do you communicate with them trough thought? I took a look at your website and wonder how you know what they look like?
Thank you for answering
P.S.: I do believe in other lifeforms in the universe, but have some difficulty with your story (so far I read nothing new, although I understand you can't tell everything for now.....maybe).
Jack and I have both physical and natural contact with our alien contacts. Most alien experiencers have natural contact alone, and this creates a great deal of confusion for humans. Humans generally understand now the technological aspects of advanced life because we have learned enough about the possibilities of advancement from our own successes. But it is the natural aspects to life that we do not understand yet, not even our own. The advanced races have advanced abilities to communicate and meet. When humans witness these things, our imaginations run away with us. When we experience these things with "alien" people, that makes the experience even more difficult to comprehend. However, what seems to be supernatural, is actually natural and Universal.
I have seen these beings hundreds of times through my life. Some of them physically, but most of them naturally. Jack has seen more of them physically and more often than I have. But that doesn't really matter. The reality and the affect is the same.
Jack and I work closest with the representatives of 30 worlds. They are the beings who founded the organization here. They are the most advanced of the races who visit, who have set the standard for all of the other races visiting. Most people who have contact meet one race, or a few races. Jack and I have met over 60 races. They teach us about themselves and how contact happens, among other things, so that we can help others who have contact. We do this as well as we can.
You are wise not to believe things just because you hear them. Anybody could be telling you anything. But keep listening and learning.
quote:Hai, IploverOp zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 22:42 schreef lplover het volgende:
Hi Nancy!!!
I believe in aliens and I would love to see them some day. Is there any chance that I would see one of there UFO's or meet them? If there is, how big is that chance?
Personal contact is never random. If you have contact, you always have and you always will. The relationship is natural and longer than lifelong. If you are related, you have the opportunity to work with them. How active you are and what kinds of things you work on with your alien contacts depends on many things. It is "very rare" for any human who is not related to have any alien contact, when it happens, it is by circumstance or accident.
Right now, most humans who have the opportunity, will not or cannot proceed with their courses. They have one or two encounters and they cannot go on. The stress on their lives is too great, and the aliens stop their contact. The relationship remains permanent in any case.
The visitation to our world is important to every human, as it affects our entire world and race. Anybody may see the aliens' crafts at any time. And the alien races are going to make open contact with our world at some time in the near future. I don't know when.
I don't know how old you are, but the chances of you seeing open contact happen are very good.
MMMMM there is only one thing Nancy when i die i have to anwser to god there is not allien how is gonne stop that sorry.
60 worlds waaaaaaaauwie name a few please Nancy.
quote:Hai, The_ShiningOp zondag 22 augustus 2004 00:31 schreef The_Shining het volgende:
hello Nancy,
I'm not really interested in aliens until one will land in my backyard and have a cup of tea or something. It is refreshing to finally see someone who doesn't ask money for teachings or spreads more fears into people's lives.
So my question would be what kind of teachings do you want to share and if possible, ask some alien how they see the view of "sunyata"
regards!
Thank you for the recognition. Jack and I have been giving talks to large and small groups, doing some TV and some radio and newspapers for 14 years. We never take any money for it. When we have to fly and stay in a hotel, we use a sponsor to pay expenses.
As for fear, honestly the alien beings are so scary that it is very difficult to meet them. Humans have natural instinctual self-survival emotions and adrenaline that kick into overdrive at such an experience. But that is only because of the way they look and feel telepathically, as well as the way things happen around them.
I do not know what sunyata is.
quote:I cannot explain shape-shifting, or how maybe Gene came across accounts of alien life visiting humans. I suppose he probably asked the FBI.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 00:39 schreef newsman het volgende:
O yeah then How invented shapeshifting tell me, tell me your sources.I have got one source for aliens it stands in de bible there they talk about the 400.000 giants that god distoyed.I dont see fundamental proof you give, you say yes and no, in arguments and when i am doubting you everything is thrue.I can make a website that george bush came to visit me and told me the he was the master of the universe.So the question is for Nancy where are your sources and your Proof.I dont have the bible for aliens yet
Greets
Newsman.
Ps: Can you give me the names of all 218 races that visit us hear on are planet.
The proof of visitation is in videos and photographs and crop formations, as well as eyewitness accounts. But I know that this is not conclusive to you. I can only advise you to keep watching.
I am told that there is "evidence" of alien life in the Bible, but I do not see any evidence there, exactly. I seem more in my own life.
I know one acceptable name of one race from the aliens. That is "The Ancient Ones" who is the race humans derogatorily call "The Greys."
The races all have different languages and we normally do not share language sounds. We have to have audible names to call them by and we will eventually. Right now, they generally do not share their race names with humans. The names of races you hear so often are names that humans have created for them.
Its just an advice, Your welcome here i am telling, please come to yourself.But as long as you can live with it goodluck and share some more stories on this forum.Earthsister come to earth.
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quote:The alien races show themselves all over our world, usually by showing their crafts. You must have seen them on video out of Mexico a few months ago. All it took was a few people to say it was a fake, and everybody went home and forgot about it. See how people are? There is no lack of evidence.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 01:02 schreef newsman het volgende:
Nancy can you give me the names of all 218 races that visit our planet and can you tell me where they land.I would be the first person that give them a hand.
The first place the organization is going to make open contact with a whole nation is in Tokyo Japan. They have chosen Japan among all our nations for a number of reasons. Mostly it is because Japan and Japan's leaders are best suited to handle contact responsibly for our entire world.
quote:Take it easy, newsman. God is greater than maybe you ever thought. God is not only for our world. All races believe in the one same God. Every race in all the known Universes believes we are all created by God.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 01:24 schreef newsman het volgende:
Yesssssssssssssssssssss know we finally have an anwser put the bible away now we have facts Nancy you really brought this to us,the aliens will stop all wars and we will be saved.Good job that you all did this for us Nancy.I am trully saved.
MMMMM there is only one thing Nancy when i die i have to anwser to god there is not allien how is gonne stop that sorry.
60 worlds waaaaaaaauwie name a few please Nancy.
The aliens are only people, just like we are. They are as alive and physical as we are, live in homes with their families and have natural life-spans for their races. They have just been evolving a lot longer than we have. There are not a lot of other worlds as new or primitive as we are, but all races started at their beginnings.
The advanced races have advanced understandings of God and spirit and nature. They do not have the dogma or superstitions we have.
quote:I'm all right, newsman. I know how it sounds. Don't worry, everything is all right.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 01:51 schreef newsman het volgende:
Nancy, your a human just like everybody else, please stop beeing this its not good for ya.
Its just an advice, Your welcome here i am telling, please come to yourself.But as long as you can live with it goodluck and share some more stories on this forum.Earthsister come to earth.
quote:Have you ever seen a bible of an alien love to read it.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 02:05 schreef NgInE het volgende:
have they found any evidence of the existence of God?
quote:NglnEOp zondag 22 augustus 2004 02:05 schreef NgInE het volgende:
have they found any evidence of the existence of God?
Yes, by daily experience. They are not physically disconnected from their "souls" like we tend to be. They realize more and witness more than we do. They also take it for what it is without debunking it or manipulating it.
We dont give about material, we give about life and help people how are lost.
quote:Yes, but I couldn't read it. The writing is in an alien language which looks like simple symbols. When they first showed it to me, it was after just a few months of meeting them, and I had been very upset and confused about what God is supposed to be if there are aliens in the Universe. Showing me their book of God helped me understand things.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 02:11 schreef newsman het volgende:
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Have you ever seen a bible of an alien love to read it.
I have been told that all races have their written history of God.
My next question is: Why do the Aliens take interest in us? What's there goal? We are inferior beings, why do they bother?
And what make's them believe we care what they think or do? If they want to help us.......do it......or leave us. I do'nt think you can invade in another culture without consequence.
Responsabilty is key here..........They visit our planet......welcome, but note that we have certain believes. If they want respect from us, first respect the planet you're visiting
Poor guys they look broken after there long travel
EarthSister > you say they believe in god , should you know that their acient god is not yehovah but Anu , they are (the grey) children of anu .
i say , that if the alien races believe in god as humans do , i wish no part of it.
if its a different beast , please do explain it.
you see , i have my record.
try to give more details.
regards.
quote:Morwen, you are exactly right in that they cannot invade our cultures.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 02:25 schreef Morwen het volgende:
Thank you for answering my question!
My next question is: Why do the Aliens take interest in us? What's there goal? We are inferior beings, why do they bother?
And what make's them believe we care what they think or do? If they want to help us.......do it......or leave us. I do'nt think you can invade in another culture without consequence.
Responsabilty is key here..........They visit our planet......welcome, but note that we have certain believes. If they want respect from us, first respect the planet you're visiting
They are very interested in us. We are all unique and have qualities and abilities to offer the group of worlds. We are neighbors in space, we share the same place we live in. Their goal is to build friendships. They can help us with many things, but they can only help us help ourselves. They can't take over. They visit all of the neighboring worlds. Our leaders should do so much for all our poor countries.
They have always visited Earth since before we were even here. Before this era, there was no use in them trying to make open contact. They could only leave traces of themselves through our history, and have some limited, helpful contact with individual humans. Contact has increased lately, both in human awareness of them, and in their preparation for open contact with our world.
They are very careful and conscientious not to make things harder on us. They are doing the best they can, but we are not an easy race to approach. Their goal is not to cause unnecessary problems, but some cannot be avoided.
quote:do you honestly think , that real *intelligent* beings would go to our leaders?Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 02:52 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
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They are very interested in us. We are all unique and have qualities and abilities to offer the group of worlds. We are neighbors in space, we share the same place we live in. Their goal is to build friendships. They can help us with many things, but they can only help us help ourselves. They can't take over. They visit all of the neighboring worlds. Our leaders should do so much for all our poor countries.
They have always visited Earth since before we were even here. Before this era, there was no use in them trying to make open contact. They could only leave traces of themselves through our history, and have some limited, helpful contact with individual humans. Contact has increased lately, both in human awareness of them, and in their preparation for open contact with our world.
They are very careful and conscientious not to make things harder on us. They are doing the best they can, but we are not an easy race to approach. Their goal is not to cause unnecessary problems, but some cannot be avoided.
come on , you should know...
the leaders are corrupt.
only in another world it would fit , there is no chance that this world should be respected.
this world should be changed.
and if alien races can make that change , it would be more then welcome.
hope you understand.
quote:praat toch geen onzin man , de revelations , zo schrijf je het btw. , zijn niet van nostradamus , maar van John (johannes)Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 02:53 schreef newsman het volgende:
From Echziel NgIne in reavaltions.I know how iam, you dont, thats the trouble.
The alien races do not believe in God as humans do. Their ancient God is not from the stories you hear about "Anu."
I will explain anything I can, but I need to know what you need to know. I will tell you if I know.
Jesus was God on Earth, living in our race to teach us. The son of God has been to many worlds. On other worlds he was of their body, and called by their names, but still the spirit of the one God. Not all races needed God to live with them inside of their races like that. Some, God could just talk to.
Humans have a very difficult time with spiritual nature. But religion is not God. Religion is just all the things people think and tell other people to do. Religions are supposed to be based on God and many try, but we just have to realize that religion is still not God.
Hee baaj ik vind je eigenlijk helemaal niet leuk gewoon reacties door elkaar te halen.Ik ga verder niet schelden ofzo maar ik vind je een beetje zwak.
Why are they on a planet , where people destroy life more frequently than they create it
and blame it on a lie called influence from god\satan\bible itself
then call for being saved , in an instant stop with all that could create , and wait on a false savior
ah well , not entirely false ofcourse , look i mean , the human race is so ultimately stupid , ignorant and a glutton for planets , devouring all that worlds have to offer , for they have learned this from the so called gods , who were just like all races , Visitors.
what is the true reason...
humans have nothing to offer us
humans have nothing , they wish not to learn , they wish to have wars , they want wars with everything they can find,.
for they want to be superior
they want to be winners.
their lives are too short in their opinion.
they want fun , and fights , making them sheep to be ruled
sheep to be manipulated , working for nothing , mankind has not worked for Eden , but for survival.
is existence survival? or is it a quest for perfection?
you tell me.
if the alien races realy want to make something
they should not go with this world.
they should change this world.
i am truly sorry if this comes in hard , still i stand behind it rock solid.
regards.
quote:The only right way is to go through the leaders to make open contact. We are one world. The visiting races cannot interfere between the people and their governments. The organization has offered their assistance and friendships to the leaders of the leading nations, and the leaders have refused. But that is going to change as general awareness grows and leaders change over.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 03:00 schreef BaajGuardian het volgende:
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do you honestly think , that real *intelligent* beings would go to our leaders?
come on , you should know...
the leaders are corrupt.
only in another world it would fit , there is no chance that this world should be respected.
this world should be changed.
and if alien races can make that change , it would be more then welcome.
hope you understand.
We do not have to reform the governments. We just have to put people in there who really care. The presence of the visiting races, and everybody knowing they are here is going to make people in the governments sit up and fly straight. They will lose their power in their shame to lesser countries who will welcome the other races and begin to gain respect.
The aliens can't make us change. They can only be here and make themselves known. Many crimes are going to come out. The USA is the largest offender of the alien races, and committing the most and worst "moral" crimes against its people. The people will demand to know WHY our leaders did not accept assistance with our worst problems while poor people are starving and being killed. The leading governments wanted something else more instead, like always. It can't stay this way, because it's all going to come out when people look into the government and see.
The visiting races work closely with individual humans. And those humans make the changes. That is the proper way to work between races without taking over. It is very difficult for beings who live in peace to come here to see the atrocities, but they work here, and don't judge us. Some of them had war in their early beginnings also, and some needed some help from other further advanced races to get over primitive evolution.
quote:vent , degene die hier gesprekken loopt te verzieken ben jij , met je one liners overal tussen door , on-onderbouwt gezanik , geen enkele logica in je posts.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 03:05 schreef newsman het volgende:
zeg is baajguradian lullijan. 2 reacties door elkaar halen is echt beetje triest he gewoon weer je gevecht opzoeken,heb ik nostradamus met de bijbel vergeleken of rot anders gewoon op of ga thuis zit atheisten.Of in het boedisme gezegt ga aapjes voeren.
Hee baaj ik vind je eigenlijk helemaal niet leuk gewoon reacties door elkaar te halen.Ik ga verder niet schelden ofzo maar ik vind je een beetje zwak.
je zeurt maar over je godje en verder doe je hier niks.
waarom ga jij niet even kijken of er op wfl niet nog een paar , jezus was een liefe vent topics zijn.
en reageer niet op deze post , aangezien ik vandaag ook niet meer op jou lompe posts reageer.
en die belachelijke belediging in jou laatste post , typisch jij.
quote:Shit man wat ben jij een zeug bedoel koeOp zondag 22 augustus 2004 03:15 schreef BaajGuardian het volgende:
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vent , degene die hier gesprekken loopt te verzieken ben jij , met je one liners overal tussen door , on-onderbouwt gezanik , geen enkele logica in je posts.
je zeurt maar over je godje en verder doe je hier niks.
waarom ga jij niet even kijken of er op wfl niet nog een paar , jezus was een liefe vent topics zijn.
en reageer niet op deze post , aangezien ik vandaag ook niet meer op jou lompe posts reageer.
en die belachelijke belediging in jou laatste post , typisch jij.
quote:It is believed by our science and our visiting races that it was the asteroid that struck the Yucatan Peninsula in Mexico that killed the dinosaurs.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 03:09 schreef Aurora025 het volgende:
Nancy, did a asteroid really destroy the dinos or was it maybe the aliens who did that?
What makes you consider that the aliens may have done it?
quote:i must say , that i give you your right.,Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 03:14 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
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The only right way is to go through the leaders to make open contact. We are one world. The visiting races cannot interfere between the people and their governments. The organization has offered their assistance and friendships to the leaders of the leading nations, and the leaders have refused. But that is going to change as general awareness grows and leaders change over.
We do not have to reform the governments. We just have to put people in there who really care. The presence of the visiting races, and everybody knowing they are here is going to make people in the governments sit up and fly straight. They will lose their power in their shame to lesser countries who will welcome the other races and begin to gain respect.
you ..are abselutely right , its so simple..., but still...yet so hard , how will they .step down..
they wont , they have Joshua ....and.. Excalibur and 6 more weapons...
they have ones working for them.
not all races are good , i really have to point that out to you , no offence.
but ok , that is not the discussion now , lets keep it on the bright side.
quote:if there would be more eyes on the disclosure project for instance. , yes.The aliens can't make us change. They can only be here and make themselves known. Many crimes are going to come out. The USA is the largest offender of the alien races, and committing the most and worst "moral" crimes against its people. The people will demand to know WHY our leaders did not accept assistance with our worst problems while poor people are starving and being killed. The leading governments wanted something else more instead, like always. It can't stay this way, because it's all going to come out when people look into the government and see.
quote:i know.The visiting races work closely with individual humans. And those humans make the changes. That is the proper way to work between races without taking over. It is very difficult for beings who live in peace to come here to see the atrocities, but they work here, and don't judge us. Some of them had war in their early beginnings also, and some needed some help from other further advanced races to get over primitive evolution.
quote:I don't know, I have a feeling that it was not an asteroid who killes the dinos.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 03:21 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
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It is believed by our science and our visiting races that it was the asteroid that struck the Yucatan Peninsula in Mexico that killed the dinosaurs.
What makes you consider that the aliens may have done it?
I could imagine that aliens have visited the earth from the beginnng of its existance, so they problably thought, wow this is a nice planet, but there is one little problem, the dinos.
There are also a lot of stories that humans are created by an alien race and I really believe that.
So I could imagine that an alien race wanted the earth and created an workrace, Humans.
I think that is the story of Adam and Eve from the bible.
What do you think?
quote:Thank you again for your response, but I 'am still not happy with your explanation. They ARE causing problems by being so vague. I think they underestimate the power of the human mind. "We" can absorbe more then they believe, that's obvious.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 02:52 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
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Their goal is not to cause unnecessary problems
We are prepared for any encounter with witchever foreign nation. So much for their knowledge of "us"
. I'm still very curious, but tell them that we are perfectly capable of dealing with them .I understand and support you. But we are not living how we are created to live. We are reacting to all kinds of stress, trying to live in it daily as if it were normal. People get sick, and we look at that as if there is some weakness in them for it.
If you and your family were starving, you would steal for food. If the one who had food would not share, you might kill him to feed your own family. That is stress.
Not all people want what you say. Almost nobody does. Some just accept it for themselves, thinking there is no other way. I can see that you are one who does not want this way of life. Our leaders have become stuck in a way of running our world that they cannot even get out of by themselves. We need help to disarm ourselves, and all we have to do is realize it is possible and to want it.
Maybe existence is survival and a quest for peace.
Maybe you can do something to help change the world.
quote:I do understand. I do.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 03:22 schreef BaajGuardian het volgende:
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i must say , that i give you your right.,
you ..are abselutely right , its so simple..., but still...yet so hard , how will they .step down..
they wont , they have Joshua ....and.. Excalibur and 6 more weapons...
they have ones working for them.
not all races are good , i really have to point that out to you , no offence.
but ok , that is not the discussion now , lets keep it on the bright side.
I know about the "bad" races. At one time, some of the visiting races were causing some trouble, using people that did not belong to them and taking things without asking. Not any more. And the stories you hear about what the trouble was, are exaggerated and fabricated.
The organization of visiting races has dismissed a few of the races that were visiting because they would not comply with the standards set for them in contacting our world.
No visiting race works directly with any Earth governments now. Every race that is visiting is here for the benefit of the peaceful relationship between us. Some have some skeletons in their closets with us. What is important is doing whatever we can to build a relationship with the organization of our visiting races so we can begin to get Earth and humans on a good road away from all this destruction.
Many humans and human organizations are doing wonderful things to help life on Earth. It's just become a little too deep and complicated for us to get out on our own.
quote:you could say , that it is what i have been..preachingOp zondag 22 augustus 2004 03:32 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
BaajGuardian
I understand and support you. But we are not living how we are created to live. We are reacting to all kinds of stress, trying to live in it daily as if it were normal. People get sick, and we look at that as if there is some weakness in them for it.
If you and your family were starving, you would steal for food. If the one who had food would not share, you might kill him to feed your own family. That is stress.
de counter NWO (oftewel vrije wereld orde) ROTG
(top starting post contains a part in english)
quote:i am already at it.Not all people want what you say. Almost nobody does. Some just accept it for themselves, thinking there is no other way. I can see that you are one who does not want this way of life. Our leaders have become stuck in a way of running our world that they cannot even get out of by themselves. We need help to disarm ourselves, and all we have to do is realize it is possible and to want it.
Maybe existence is survival and a quest for peace.
Maybe you can do something to help change the world.
see the link in my signature.
that is my haven
its not yet that big , and it is not about the members , but about the visitors.
i have all sorts of information retrieval there,.
and alot of people behind the screens providing.
i have on the agenda , to make a big forum|Topic set for the Alien affair.
there already is a topic about the disclosure project.
just take a look.
on the other hand , i am really busy with assistance on cases (bringing it out)
collecting info , and expanding my contacts.
setting up is alot of work.
it is meant that itll become a network for the people who seek help in the new coming world.
a guide for knowledge , information , and assistance.
we stand for , a free world order , (does not mean leaders are impossible , ..., as long as humans can live free , you know what i mean...)
space exploration (pretty obvious
)and clean energy.
its a long road to walk , and many should walk along.
we are all in this together.
i am aware of the one world .
although the so called ...leaders...wich i do not let rule..., are known to be seeing this quite misshapen...
, i dont trust , their ways.
i cannot trust liars and murderrerd , on their own kind and on visitors.
they only want the technology.
regards.
quote:Aurora025Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 03:30 schreef Aurora025 het volgende:
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I don't know, I have a feeling that it was not an asteroid who killes the dinos.
I could imagine that aliens have visited the earth from the beginnng of its existance, so they problably thought, wow this is a nice planet, but there is one little problem, the dinos.
There are also a lot of stories that humans are created by an alien race and I really believe that.
So I could imagine that an alien race wanted the earth and created an workrace, Humans.
I think that is the story of Adam and Eve from the bible.
What do you think?
A race can't just move onto another planet, dinos or no dinos. It is true that humans on Earth came from another race. It is another race of humans who is "much" further advanced and evolved than we are. Our DNA came from their DNA and developed and thrived uniquely over its own time. That race of humans is one of the races that visits Earth now. There are a few other humans in the Universe also.
Only God can create life. But in some way similar to how we people of Earth are populating Earth, the people of the Universe are populating the Universe.
If we worked for another race, I think we would see them a little more often. Besides even we abolished slavery already.
(lets not forget the Dulce base)
if you have your contacts , there are things going on there .
and another question : what is your scourse , do you have any informants?
any contacts with any intelligence , or agents?
regards.
That looks like good work you are doing. I know it's a lot to do too. If I can help in any way, please let me know.
and on what level?
i could use some serious informants on the matter.
look , i try to believe as much as i can that you what you say about your wok with the other races is true , yet i cant be 100% sure untill i have met one of your alien contacts.
i cant , and then i really mean ... CANT... use dis or mis-information here.
as you know yourself , it is a serious matter.
first i want more knowledge on your work
and if possible contact with your contacts.
hope i dont scare you away with all that , its just that i have to secure the truth carefully.
i think youll understand.
regards.
quote:Four corners UT, CO, NM and AZ is where "Dulce base" is. Dulce base is not a human military base but the military makes it look that way. It is the one underground storage facility for all of the visiting races. It holds emergency supplies for the races. No aliens stay there. Sometimes there are meetings there between races and sometimes with individual humans, not with govt or military.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 03:59 schreef BaajGuardian het volgende:
what do you know about the bases in : utah , colorado , new mexico and arizona
(lets not forget the Dulce base)
if you have your contacts , there are things going on there .
and another question : what is your scourse , do you have any informants?
any contacts with any intelligence , or agents?
regards.
All other facilities under and above ground on Earth are human military.
My sources are the alien races. Because of my public profile I also have some connections with government through agents. I am honest with them and do whatever I can to help create the changes necessary to get this ball rolling to open contact. I am confident and willing to be a go-between, and of course that goes for Jack too. We will go between, but we work with the aliens, not the governments.
quote:Correct.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 04:29 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
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Four corners UT, CO, NM and AZ is where "Dulce base" is. Dulce base is not a human military base but the military makes it look that way. It is the one underground storage facility for all of the visiting races. It holds emergency supplies for the races. No aliens stay there. Sometimes there are meetings there between races and sometimes with individual humans, not with govt or military.
quote:almost correct , but ill let you passAll other facilities under and above ground on Earth are human military.
quote:i will trust youMy sources are the alien races. Because of my public profile I also have some connections with government through agents. I am honest with them and do whatever I can to help create the changes necessary to get this ball rolling to open contact. I am confident and willing to be a go-between, and of course that goes for Jack too. We will go between, but we work with the aliens, not the governments.
i accept your help
dont let that trust be misplaced.
i will keep in touch.
(also visit this site : http://eyegarden.proboards33.com/index.cgi )
I can give you any information I have by talking with you, the same as with everyone. You have only just met me though, don't you think you should know me for a while before you trust me? I can't join your organization because I am independent, but we can still discuss things.
You will never be 100% sure of what I say, no matter what, or even 50%. I can't arrange random alien contact for you or anyone else but if you already have alien contact, I can try to help you become more aware of it. It is not up to me to tell them who to contact or why. They have their own plan. I am in no position to hook you up with govt agents either.
I am honest and sincere but I do not prove anything, and that's the way it is supposed to be. I think you are just testing me.
quote:I've read your example and i'm curious for more information about your encounters, and mostly about your personal encounters. I would also like to hear more about your contact regarding talking to them, because the only thing i've read is that you're husband has seen some doorway with in it a round room and a vague person. They said some things, but that doesn't explain your wide expertise regarding this subject.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 00:48 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
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Hai, Gatts
I have some writings on my website. http://www.theprojectatearth.com/ChapterOne.html
My site tells some things, but you can learn much more in talking with me.
I have had encounters all my life with different kinds of beings. It was normal to me. Although extraordinary, nothing too strange happened that I did not hear also happened to other people. I did not know that some of the beings that I saw and talked with were people from other worlds until they made themselves known to my husband and me, and they started to teach us things about themselves.
There are both natural and technological aspects to contact with beings of such different biology. We cannot share the same atmosphere to be together in it face to face, but their abilities make effecting this easy for them. They use dimensional technologies as well as telepathy and out of body visitation. This is the normal way of meeting between all advanced races of people.
Thereby i got 2 questions:
Are we (humans) really sophisticated machines?
Where does concience come from?
I'm asking this because no person does bad things(for example) by himself, it's always a sum of all the influences you had all your life. In fact, i would be amazed if the alien races had perfect organisations like these that would make them do things from own experience. Nothing is perfect. Or can you prove me the opposite?
So in fact you're telling us that the aliens have a perfect way of life and the way we live is wrong, or are those alien races that much advanced, that they have beaten all those problems regarding influences in life and made a perfectly sound organization? Would it be nice to live in perfection?
By the way, a mistake is human? We know that one mistake always has many coincidences.
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quote:i have my own contacts , still i would appreciate to know yours , for as far as the clearance goes.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 04:53 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
BaajGuardian
I can give you any information I have by talking with you, the same as with everyone. You have only just met me though, don't you think you should know me for a while before you trust me? I can't join your organization because I am independent, but we can still discuss things.
9/quote] i know., and for my organisation , cooperation is more valuable than membership. [quote]
You will never be 100% sure of what I say, no matter what, or even 50%. I can't arrange random alien contact for you or anyone else but if you already have alien contact, I can try to help you become more aware of it. It is not up to me to tell them who to contact or why. They have their own plan. I am in no position to hook you up with govt agents either.
quote:i was testing you , but as i said , i trust you.I am honest and sincere but I do not prove anything, and that's the way it is supposed to be. I think you are just testing me.
i asked you a question , and the answer passed.
that is enough , not many know the 4 corners well.
i trust you as far as our buisiness goes.
regards.
quote:Alien is zonder puntjes op de e.Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 19:49 schreef Lord Dreamer het volgende:
aliën
quote:I will search for an english article with a good photo, please give me an hour.Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 20:25 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
Hai, Oo-blackgirl-oO
Thank you for the welcome. I am not familiar with that formation but if you give me a link to a photo, I will see if I can tell whether it is authentic or fake. Most are fake, though.
* 1st I'll read the rest of this topic
**very shocking from what I've read so far < where you're saying most crop circles are fake*
I see many people questioning your reliability. Personally, I think it doesn't really matter whether you are truthfull or not. It is an option that you tell the truth, but for example, it's also an option that you are living in your own fantasy world, because you ate too much magic mushrooms. Heck, its even an option that you are lauging your ass off, about the people who take you serious, because you're just joking.
I can't prove any of these things, so that's why for me all options are open. Either way, there is something in you that drives you to come here and share your ideas, wether they are truthfull or not. So that's why I am interested in what you say your knowlegde, even if it could be your fantasy. You're human just like me, and human's who claim things like you are pretty interesting I think. So I'm interested in your idea's.
Thats why I have a question for you. What can you tell me about alien's and spirituality. Do they have a common sense of spirituality, do they have religions like we on earth, are they capable of things like telepathic communication, do the various forms of alien species have other spiritual understandings, or do they think the same about it? Is there an universal truth for them? What do they think about what we call "god"???
I would like to hear whatever you can tell about aliens and their spirituality...
Also, there has been an interesting topic about a certain kind of channeling which represents a message from aliens. This was that topic: Ze schijnen te willen landen om te helpen, wil jij het? But it's in dutch.
The message can be found in english on the following link: http://www.geocities.com/changetheworld_now/Changetheworld1.htm
What do you think about this channeling/message?
Did you know about it already?
Further, i'd like to welcome you on this forum
I'm eager to see your reply, so thanks for it in advance...
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quote:Aurora,Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 03:30 schreef Aurora025 het volgende:
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I don't know, I have a feeling that it was not an asteroid who killes the dinos.
I could imagine that aliens have visited the earth from the beginnng of its existance, so they problably thought, wow this is a nice planet, but there is one little problem, the dinos.
There are also a lot of stories that humans are created by an alien race and I really believe that.
So I could imagine that an alien race wanted the earth and created an workrace, Humans.
I think that is the story of Adam and Eve from the bible.
What do you think?
ben gisteravond net klaar met het boek `de heilige graal, het heilig bloed` en daarin komt men tot 1 van de conclusies dat de bijbel zoals die nu bestaat, met opzet fictief is geschreven om het christendom te misleiden.
Jezus heeft wel degelijk geleefd, suggereren zij, maar niet op de wijze zoals het in de bijbel beschreven staat!
interessant onderzoek geweest dat boek
quote:The formation, thought to be as long as a football pitch, appeared in a field near Silbury Hill over two nights at the beginning of AugustOp zondag 22 augustus 2004 09:49 schreef Oo-blackgirl-oO het volgende:
[Hai, Oo-blackgirl-oO
Thank you for the welcome. I am not familiar with that formation but if you give me a link to a photo, I will see if I can tell whether it is authentic or fake. Most are fake, though.]
I will search for an english article with a good photo, please give me an hour.
* 1st I'll read the rest of this topic
*very shocking from what I've read so far < where you're saying most crop circles are fake*
Can you see from the photo (behind the link) if it's a real crop circle en if the message in it is real?
There is also the work that Darwin did, I've also read a lot about that subject. He was so reluctant to bring out his book about evolution, because of the church which would not believe such a thing. Because, hey, nature couldn't have made us over the millions of years work. There must be a God who started all this (haha)
I'm not trying to turn around this discussion too the existence of a force or "person" you call God. But it is just to say that aliens must know something better than that.
I get the John Titor feeling here. If everything wat is written down in forums is going to happen in the next decade or so, we are in for a hell of a ride. Oh, I almost forgot about 2012, but maybe we can overcome that with John Titor's time travel?
I also believe that there is great chance alien life does exist in the vast space of the universe, that there is more between heaven and earth (apart from possible aliens) but all the things that are happening at the moment, with the shadow governement, the illuminati and all the other things. I'm afraid that people are just trying to find something to hold on to. The hope that there is more than going to school and work everyday.
so much I want to say yet, I'll keep an eye on this topic (but I don't believe you).
Like Yoriz, I'm also interested in what you have to say about the aliens spirituality. Do all races have 1 universal truth or do they differ among races. You talked about Jesus but what about other important religious figures?
thanks in advance.
And all the planets living as bodies _ subconsciousness in the Universe
The advanced races who are already well aware and know a great deal about the universe we live in... are searching for that higher, that what covers the Universe, that's what's above, the body where the Universe lives in.
Is this something like it earthsister, how you think, they see it?
quote:My husband and I have had hundreds of meetings and conversation with the alien beings we work with, and that is where our expertise comes from. What you read was only the first part of our innitial introductions.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 05:34 schreef Gatts het volgende:
I've read your example and i'm curious for more information about your encounters, and mostly about your personal encounters. I would also like to hear more about your contact regarding talking to them, because the only thing i've read is that you're husband has seen some doorway with in it a round room and a vague person. They said some things, but that doesn't explain your wide expertise regarding this subject.
Jack and I are together for almost every meeting and encounter. We have some without the other on rare occations. Jack's role in our position is to handle more of the physical aspects of our encounters, mostly because he can. Our abilities for this are inherently natural and Jack's abilities exceed mine and most humans'. My participation is not as stressful in that way. When I see the alien beings physically with my eyes, it is usually in passing. Otherwise, I see them and hear them directly through my mind and not with my eyes. My role is support for Jack and our children, to understand the order and the meanings of things, to keep journals and talk with other people about what we are learning. Jack does these things too but the brunt of them is more within my natural abilities.
Perhaps you want to hear stories about going up onto the aliens' ships and meeting with them. I have a few of those, but Jack has many more that he recalls more physically than I do. Many of my personal encounters are vague and dreamy like what is true for most people who have alien experiences.
quote:No.Thereby i got 2 questions:
Are we (humans) really sophisticated machines?
quote:Do you mean the awareness of right and wrong? The little voice that speaks to you inside? That is your spirit, talking to yourself. Each of us is body and spirit.Where does concience come from?
All humans have four states of consciousness, but are only well aware of one state -- the physical state. Some humans are completely unaware of anything but the physical, but most humans are aware, each to some varying degree, of all of the states together. We are active in all four states at all times, and our states of consciousness are not limited to the proximity of the body.
Most personal, face to face meetings between beings of different worlds occur out of body by other states of consciousness. Whether your physical state is aware of it occurring depends on how aware you are between your states of consciousness.
quote:Nothing is perfect. The advanced races have a great deal more experience than we have. They also have the added benefits of shared knowledge between them. The individuals that come here are "the" professionals of their races.I'm asking this because no person does bad things(for example) by himself, it's always a sum of all the influences you had all your life. In fact, i would be amazed if the alien races had perfect organisations like these that would make them do things from own experience. Nothing is perfect. Or can you prove me the opposite?
quote:Their way of life on their worlds is based on peace. They take care of their own. They do not war. They have disagreements and conflicts, but they have actual ways of solving them, and they actually implement those ways. When there are stubborn conflicts between worlds and they just cannot reach an agreement together, the worlds agree to use mediation of a further advanced third party to help solve the differences. It is important to realize that solutions are not perfect either, and nobody gets everything they want out of it. But when everyone wants the same one thing more than any other thing, they will settle for as good as the differences can be solved. The one thing that everybody wants more than anything else is peace.So in fact you're telling us that the aliens have a perfect way of life and the way we live is wrong, or are those alien races that much advanced, that they have beaten all those problems regarding influences in life and made a perfectly sound organization? Would it be nice to live in perfection?
The way we live on Earth is too hard. Not all solutions are within our reach. But I think it is wrong, yes, that some people on Earth are so poor they are sick and starving to death, yet while particular other people on Earth are paid too much money to keep the poor suffering. I think that is "idiotic" and embarrassing to me that we do not fix that. It should already BE within our intelligence and morals to have a way to fix that, and I think it is within our abilities, but we don't do it for "some reason" about power and world dominance.
On advanced worlds, and also on other primitive worlds, the leaders and the people provide all needs for all people for free. Nobody goes without basic needs for any reason.
quote:Everybody makes mistakes. The aliens races that visit Earth are only people like we are people. They are just a lot better at being people than we are.By the way, a mistake is human? We know that one mistake always has many coincidences.
I don't think you can speak of better or worse ways of being human. We are what we are and that's just right. I don't believe there is a higher or lower level of being and I don't think the universe works that way.
But that's just the way I think the universe works.
And last but not least: Do they themselves think they are better at being human or is that your own opinion?
Thanx again for your trouble of answering all of our questions (must be quit exhausting
).quote:Nokken Baaj , Net zoals jij een heilig overtuigde believer bent, zijn er ook mensen die er niet in geloven, ook deze mensen hebben het recht om net zo fel te zijn als jij zelf als believer. Als jij dit een normale post vind. hoe durf je dan ooit te posten over je FWO waarin iedereen gelijk is en geweld en agressie overbodig zijn. Op dit moment getuigd jouw post van pure agressie.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 03:15 schreef BaajGuardian het volgende:
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vent , degene die hier gesprekken loopt te verzieken ben jij , met je one liners overal tussen door , on-onderbouwt gezanik , geen enkele logica in je posts.
je zeurt maar over je godje en verder doe je hier niks.
waarom ga jij niet even kijken of er op wfl niet nog een paar , jezus was een liefe vent topics zijn.
en reageer niet op deze post , aangezien ik vandaag ook niet meer op jou lompe posts reageer.
en die belachelijke belediging in jou laatste post , typisch jij.
quote:dat denk jij, maar die mensen die in termen van hoger en lager denken zijn het niet met je eens en die behoren tot hetzelfde universumOp zondag 22 augustus 2004 15:00 schreef Morwen het volgende:
I don't believe there is a higher or lower level of being and I don't think the universe works that way.
But that's just the way I think the universe works.
quote:* Morwen schrijft zich morgen in voor een ander universumOp zondag 22 augustus 2004 15:15 schreef The_Shining het volgende:
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dat denk jij, maar die mensen die in termen van hoger en lager denken zijn het niet met je eens en die behoren tot hetzelfde universum
.Mij bekruipt zo langzamerhand het gevoel van een echtpaar dat de mensheid wil redden van de ondergang, maar het kan ook zijn dat de chili con carne van gisteren wat zwaar gevallen is
Nou ja, ik ga maar weer eens verder lezen en kijken wat ze nog meer weet. Ik blijf erbij dat het zou kunnen en het blijft leuk om te lezen......dat op zijn minst
Do you know something about the airport in Denver. I've seen many strange objects there.
I also heard that there is an underground base there, is that true??
Is it also true that there are several underground cities where aliens or reptilians live?
The last thing I want to ask you is aboiut the hollow earth. I've heard several times that ufos are flying into a big opening in the North Pole. Do you know something about that??
Below in the screen in the video you could see the text DNI.
Is this a real alien in the video Nancy??
http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/ufo/Alien_Interview_wm.wmv
Here is a screenshot of the video.
quote:Thank you so much for answering!!!Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 01:19 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
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Hai, Iplover
Personal contact is never random. If you have contact, you always have and you always will. The relationship is natural and longer than lifelong. If you are related, you have the opportunity to work with them. How active you are and what kinds of things you work on with your alien contacts depends on many things. It is "very rare" for any human who is not related to have any alien contact, when it happens, it is by circumstance or accident.
Right now, most humans who have the opportunity, will not or cannot proceed with their courses. They have one or two encounters and they cannot go on. The stress on their lives is too great, and the aliens stop their contact. The relationship remains permanent in any case.
The visitation to our world is important to every human, as it affects our entire world and race. Anybody may see the aliens' crafts at any time. And the alien races are going to make open contact with our world at some time in the near future. I don't know when.
I don't know how old you are, but the chances of you seeing open contact happen are very good.
How do you know if you are related? Are related people standing closer to aliens or do they have something special? Do aliens only visit you when you are healthy? I've never had a visit of an alien, but I haven't been well these last years. I've had a bad depression, but since a couple of months I'm doing much better so I think I'm healthy again now. Do people who are spiritial have more chance of an alien visiting? I'm kinda spiritial, but I'm only just exploring it.
I'm an 18 year old girl.
Do aliens speak like we speak, or do they use some kind of telepathy? How old can they get? And the last question (sorry of all those questions) what do aliens eat?
It's great to have you here, I'm very interrested in all this!!!
Either I failed to register it (it's getting late and I have just returned from a concert) or it just doesn't exist; but I am rather interested in learning your opinion about visits and contributions by alien races to human civilizations. Needless to say, if the cultures I mentioned did not have much exchange with them, you can regard them as never mentioned.
Kind regards.
Update:
I've checked your claims and found out that what you're claiming is false.
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zijn dit ook betrouwbare bronnen?
kun je uitstippellen wat je precies gechecked hebt?
het dus hier uitleggen.
dat zou aardig zijn.
I have been away visiting family all day but will respond to all posts tomorrow. Goodnight, for now.
and welcome back btw Earthsister.
im off for today.
quote:ga je nou pas slapen dan???Op maandag 23 augustus 2004 07:14 schreef BaajGuardian het volgende:
goodnight
and welcome back btw Earthsister.
im off for today.
quote:Family waar? Buitenaards?Op maandag 23 augustus 2004 07:01 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
I have been away visiting family all day but will respond to all posts tomorrow. Goodnight, for now.
Mooi altijd dat dit soort mensen altijd de woorden in topictitels met hoofdletters typen. Erg veelzeggend. :S
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Could it be our ancestors found ways in contacting multi-dimensional beings using psychedelics?
I mean, why would so many shamans have rituals involving psychedelic drugs (like salvia divinorum, DMT, etc.)?... Because the ignorant scum all got rid of those people we simply cannot
ask... Did you have any psychonautical experiences yourself? I know this sounds dangerous because some people could call you overtripped or insane after admitting using psychedelics...
I heared in some states in the USA you can even be declared insane officially and taken away your civil rights after they could prove you've done LSD for more than 7 times, wonder what they
are affraid of...
In one experience, I was "out of my body" for about 15 minutes, hearing, but not with my ears, seeing, but not with my eyes... There was no time nor material in where I was, if you could say
I was anywhere at all... All I "saw" were energy lines, stretching out on a black plain, with colourful "roads" and there were other beings there, this place was not of this world and I can
only discribe it as "another dimension" (I know this sounds very overtripped, but I can't explain it
in any other words)... Also by then I gained some "knowledge", getting answers without asking
questions... The first thing I got was that there was no way of getting closer to what we call death
then I was at that very moment, and it did not feel bad... The second thing was that people (some of them were worldleaders) used our energy for their own purposes... That's where I got the strange feeling a story like "the matrix" is in fact a metaphor on our reality, ironic, maybe even a sarcastic view of our global society...
I could not get close to the beings I saw, for I did not know how to move around there...
Do you have a logical explanation for this experience?
Also I believe that we in fact are also multi-dimensional beings, we've just lost the touch...
What do you think of music being used by multi-dimensional beings to get in a state of trance where
we could communicate interdimensionally?
Although I find it strange that you call yourself a representative, because there should be many representatives out there if there are any representatives out there, I am seriously interested in
your answers, because I simply cannot forget what I've experienced...
And please don't feel threatened by some guys quoting things out of an action adventure which hold some tips about living life to the fullest...
greetings,
Flip
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I hope you not saying you're from the future with codename Traveller_05 and also looking for a specific IBM computer
quote:Thnx for answering my questions so well!Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 14:41 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
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My husband and I have had hundreds of meetings and conversation with the alien beings we work with, and that is where our expertise comes from. What you read was only the first part of our innitial introductions.
Jack and I are together for almost every meeting and encounter. We have some without the other on rare occations. Jack's role in our position is to handle more of the physical aspects of our encounters, mostly because he can. Our abilities for this are inherently natural and Jack's abilities exceed mine and most humans'. My participation is not as stressful in that way. When I see the alien beings physically with my eyes, it is usually in passing. Otherwise, I see them and hear them directly through my mind and not with my eyes. My role is support for Jack and our children, to understand the order and the meanings of things, to keep journals and talk with other people about what we are learning. Jack does these things too but the brunt of them is more within my natural abilities.
Perhaps you want to hear stories about going up onto the aliens' ships and meeting with them. I have a few of those, but Jack has many more that he recalls more physically than I do. Many of my personal encounters are vague and dreamy like what is true for most people who have alien experiences.
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No.
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Do you mean the awareness of right and wrong? The little voice that speaks to you inside? That is your spirit, talking to yourself. Each of us is body and spirit.
All humans have four states of consciousness, but are only well aware of one state -- the physical state. Some humans are completely unaware of anything but the physical, but most humans are aware, each to some varying degree, of all of the states together. We are active in all four states at all times, and our states of consciousness are not limited to the proximity of the body.
Most personal, face to face meetings between beings of different worlds occur out of body by other states of consciousness. Whether your physical state is aware of it occurring depends on how aware you are between your states of consciousness.
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Nothing is perfect. The advanced races have a great deal more experience than we have. They also have the added benefits of shared knowledge between them. The individuals that come here are "the" professionals of their races.
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Their way of life on their worlds is based on peace. They take care of their own. They do not war. They have disagreements and conflicts, but they have actual ways of solving them, and they actually implement those ways. When there are stubborn conflicts between worlds and they just cannot reach an agreement together, the worlds agree to use mediation of a further advanced third party to help solve the differences. It is important to realize that solutions are not perfect either, and nobody gets everything they want out of it. But when everyone wants the same one thing more than any other thing, they will settle for as good as the differences can be solved. The one thing that everybody wants more than anything else is peace.
The way we live on Earth is too hard. Not all solutions are within our reach. But I think it is wrong, yes, that some people on Earth are so poor they are sick and starving to death, yet while particular other people on Earth are paid too much money to keep the poor suffering. I think that is "idiotic" and embarrassing to me that we do not fix that. It should already BE within our intelligence and morals to have a way to fix that, and I think it is within our abilities, but we don't do it for "some reason" about power and world dominance.
On advanced worlds, and also on other primitive worlds, the leaders and the people provide all needs for all people for free. Nobody goes without basic needs for any reason.
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Everybody makes mistakes. The aliens races that visit Earth are only people like we are people. They are just a lot better at being people than we are.
But i've got 2 more questions.
You mention 4 states of awareness, but i only read 2 examples of states of awareness. Can you explain what those other 2 are like?
Also when i read that the alien races think we're making big mistakes, and they want to help us facing those problems. Why do they care so much about us? Have we got something to offer them?
you're question on how some people see the denial and ignore, well this weekend i thought of the next theory..( truthers=people who wanna believe, debunkers= people who like to prove the first are wrong ..as you probably know) that those two sides are like yin and yang, wich is good in essence, else it would remain 'floaty chat' from the believers, and because there are always new fakes, whoever makes it, to do whatever. sometimes believers do tend to see fakes as evidence, until there proved hoaxes of course.
well both yin and yang have a part from the other, the debunkers love to laugh now, and when a case holds up as unproved to be anything, the believers would love to laugh at the debunkers.
i pity the silent treatment when its hard to prove as a fake though. the whole concept fascinates me and i do tend to wanna believe it all. but imo its very unthoughtfull to say we are alone. most people realise that, but add that its unlikely they visit us. well the chance is slim judged by the size of the universe but then again, we are so small most cannot grasp aliens would be able to deal with those problems, as they probably did eons ago.
What's the handbag for?
Edit: Or is it a crash helmet
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quote:I read almost all posts. It's quite interesting.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 03:58 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
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Aurora025
A race can't just move onto another planet, dinos or no dinos. It is true that humans on Earth came from another race. It is another race of humans who is "much" further advanced and evolved than we are. Our DNA came from their DNA and developed and thrived uniquely over its own time. That race of humans is one of the races that visits Earth now. There are a few other humans in the Universe also.
Only God can create life. But in some way similar to how we people of Earth are populating Earth, the people of the Universe are populating the Universe.
If we worked for another race, I think we would see them a little more often. Besides even we abolished slavery already.
Unfortunately, this is the post where you go wrong. Our DNA for (for example) the enzyme cytochrome C, can be tracked down in almost all species on earth. Even in fish, ants or fungea.
The mutations in the DNA sequence for this enzyme for different species shows us a quite complete guide on how species on earth evolved. There is no evidence for mixture from outside in the case of the humans race (or other species or races).
I know you can say "But they adapted the DNA sequence to our environment to mislead biotechnicians". Well, I will remind you of Ockham's razor.
quote:I think the things we can learn from each other are endless but we could learn more from them about advancement. We can learn about science and nature from them. They can learn about humans from us. I do not know if we have any knowledge about science and nature that they can learn from us.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 04:02 schreef newsman het volgende:
Nancy if there are aliens and you say there bible, what could we learn from theme an what could they learn from us? Space Travel.
The advanced races will not hand us space travel until we are ready for it. We can discover things on our own, but we do not have everything we need on our planet for it, and we are not trustworthy yet. Besides, our cell structure will not be evolved enough for space travel for about another 1000 years of evolution.
quote:Hai, YoriZ. Thank you for your welcome.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 11:17 schreef YoriZ het volgende:
Thats why I have a question for you. What can you tell me about alien's and spirituality. Do they have a common sense of spirituality, do they have religions like we on earth, are they capable of things like telepathic communication, do the various forms of alien species have other spiritual understandings, or do they think the same about it? Is there an universal truth for them? What do they think about what we call "god"???
All races have a common sense of spirituality. We humans do not notice it very well, but we have it also.
All races have practices of spirituality, but none other are just like ours. Advanced races have advanced practices. Advanced practices are more direct and simple than ours. There is a "Universal Truth" and all are working toward it, even us. Nobody in the Universe knows everything. There are mysteries to all life.
All races believe in the same one God, create of all life. (I wrote some other things earlier in the thread about the other races' perceptions of God.)
quote:]http://www.geocities.com/changetheworld_now/Changetheworld1.htm[/quote][/url]Also, there has been an interesting topic about a certain kind of channeling which represents a message from aliens. This was that topic: Ze schijnen te willen landen om te helpen, wil jij het? But it's in dutch.
The message can be found in english on the following link: [url=http://www.geocities.com/changetheworld_now/Changetheworld1.htm
What do you think about this channeling/message?
Did you know about it already?[/quote]
This message is very creative and informative, but not all true, and it is not from an alien being or beings. It is possible that the person writing it has been inspired at some time, but what they are doing is not "channeling." I didn't know about it already.
quote:"The circle appeared over two nights at the start of August"Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 12:22 schreef Oo-blackgirl-oO het volgende:
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The formation, thought to be as long as a football pitch, appeared in a field near Silbury Hill over two nights at the beginning of August
Can you see from the photo (behind the link) if it's a real crop circle en if the message in it is real?
Authentic crop formations are created in a second. This formation is obviously a fake because it took two nights to form, as well is apparent by the sloppy, mundane design and craftsmanship compared to what the aliens create.
quote:I understand somewhat why Americans believe so much in the bible, but I do not agree with most of them. Perhaps you know the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater." We need something. Perhaps Americans are too loyal to the churches and should read what you are reading.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 13:04 schreef CrackerJack het volgende:
I don't understand that Americans believe so much in the bible. I'm busy reading the book "The Holy Grail & The Holy Blood". Difficult to explain the whole book in a few lines, but it basically says that the bible as we know it, is just a story mixed from different time periods and different persons. Only the "good" parts are in it which contribute to the existence of a "God", supported by the catolic church.
quote:I think God is with us all of the time, actively, always creating and guiding. The aliens' understanding of God is greater because their intelligence, knowledge and experience are greater. God is not a "person" to me exactly, at least not like we people. The advanced races know God as "the supreme spirit being" and call him/her by many names and titles.There is also the work that Darwin did, I've also read a lot about that subject. He was so reluctant to bring out his book about evolution, because of the church which would not believe such a thing. Because, hey, nature couldn't have made us over the millions of years work. There must be a God who started all this (haha)
I'm not trying to turn around this discussion too the existence of a force or "person" you call God. But it is just to say that aliens must know something better than that.
quote:I think we are in for a hell of a ride, but by coincidence, not because it is written. We can all feel it coming, can't we? 2012 is just another year of great possibilities. There is nothing slated to happen then.I get the John Titor feeling here. If everything wat is written down in forums is going to happen in the next decade or so, we are in for a hell of a ride. Oh, I almost forgot about 2012, but maybe we can overcome that with John Titor's time travel?
quote:There is so much more!I also believe that there is great chance alien life does exist in the vast space of the universe, that there is more between heaven and earth (apart from possible aliens) but all the things that are happening at the moment, with the shadow governement, the illuminati and all the other things. I'm afraid that people are just trying to find something to hold on to. The hope that there is more than going to school and work everyday.
quote:That's all right. Thank you for your candor.so much I want to say yet, I'll keep an eye on this topic (but I don't believe you).
quote:Hai, The_ShiningOp zondag 22 augustus 2004 13:04 schreef The_Shining het volgende:
Like Yoriz, I'm also interested in what you have to say about the aliens spirituality. Do all races have 1 universal truth or do they differ among races. You talked about Jesus but what about other important religious figures?
All races believe in the one same God. All "known" races in all the "known" Universes believe in the one same God. There may be some remote unknown races, but going by experience, they will be found to believe in God also, however uniquely.
My alien contacts have not told me specifically about any other religious figures.
Many great people do great things for great reasons and we are right to celebrate them all as the people they are for the things that they do. But there is only one "Son of God" and no other religious figure compares.
quote:Hai, Oo-blackgirl-oOOp zondag 22 augustus 2004 13:26 schreef Oo-blackgirl-oO het volgende:
the way I see it, is that the universe is to be seen as a body, just like we live as spirits in the bodies we have now as humans OR planet earth is also to be seen as a body as we as humans live on it. (it is even to be known that *humans* live inside this earth)
And all the planets living as bodies _ subconsciousness in the Universe
The advanced races who are already well aware and know a great deal about the universe we live in... are searching for that higher, that what covers the Universe, that's what's above, the body where the Universe lives in.
Is this something like it earthsister, how you think, they see it?
I have thought and heard this described a little bit like this many times before. I think it is a good exercise in expanding our way of thinking, and to explore both the spiritual and physical aspects to life.
I don't know if the alien races see it this way we do at all, but I imagine they have. They say that in simple terms, the planets are not alive beings like we are alive beings, and that's what I have always thought too. But they also say that in some way, "everything" is alive. I think that too.
Life is in many forms so don't let anything stop you from exploring.
dit was het laatste bericht voordat Fok platging behalve voor mij.
btw, Newsman, leer engels en doe is normaal.
Earthsister, here are my questions (I have a lot more, but I'm still a little sleepy and my English is not so excellent for now). What I was thinking of, is there a particular reason that aliens (if they exist or not, in my opion that's even not a issue in this question) come to some particular people? Or do they not? Is there a connection between alien contact, the time when there a visiting you, come to you, or is there not?
Why do you think they come to you? And why do you think they're not coming to some other people (apart from the question if they've noticed already and want to noticed)? What is the relation between that? And for others, I'm not talking about psychical diseases or something in that order, just curiousity.
Next question, to throw a film in it
. What are the signs? And are there (maybe really) some signs then? Or not? What are the things or are there maybe things to (wanna) let you now there exist, there's more, etc. That they are alive ('we are alive, you stubborn human being, is that now not even clear for you', hehe, little dramatic touch from my alienside).Well, that were my questions for so on, I hope they (are a little) clear.
Already thanx for answering them!
1. what do you think of the disclosure project, are they speaking the truth?
2. Do you know about these books : www.cwg.org , and what do you think of them?
3. Is is true that time does not exist, and is just an illusion made my humans? Do aliens live their life by following a 'clock', just like we are?
quote:Balkenende.... *proest* waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahOp zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 21:53 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
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All of Earth's governments know of the existence and of alien life, and of their visitation to Earth, and of the cover-up by the leading governments.
nog meer onzin
Either I suffer from seasonal blindness or I have not received an answer to my request for some examples of the extraordinary intercourse that allegedly took place during several formative stages of our experience and species.
Please be so kind as to describe this exchange for me.
Why a spokesman? If they are a technologically advanced race, then they would decipher our languages and make their plans official themselves.... human spokesmen would just be called crazy, wouldn't be believed... AND there could be misunderstandings... no, they must've seen that spokesmen are not useful.
If an advanced race would come here to help us, they would know they had to show some proof of their knowledge and technology, to make sure people would believe them. I won't believe someone has visited us, until they come here and say so themselves....
Do alien races have any concept of humour?
If so, do you know any jokes they tell about us earthlings?
quote:What happens when an Earthling leaves for the moon?Op dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 16:10 schreef APK het volgende:
Dear EarthSister,
Do alien races have any concept of humour?
If so, do you know any jokes they tell about us earthlings?
The average IQ increases on both planets.
quote:Do you actually believe that in 1000 years our cell structure is going to change so much , all by itself, by nature so we can handle space travel in a better way?Op dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 03:05 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
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The advanced races will not hand us space travel until we are ready for it. We can discover things on our own, but we do not have everything we need on our planet for it, and we are not trustworthy yet. Besides, our cell structure will not be evolved enough for space travel for about another 1000 years of evolution.
I don't think that crusaders from 1000 years ago had a different appearance, or where less evolved as we are today
You also talk about crop circles, why are aliens making them? If they are making them to tell something, why don't they come out in public?
Oh, and if I may ask, why do you come to a dutch speaking forum if there are so many others in your native language?
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quote:Because EarthSister is a Spokesperson for aliens. Maybe their written Dutch is a bit shaky.Op dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 16:41 schreef CrackerJack het volgende:
Oh, and if I may ask, why do you come to a dutch speaking forum if there are so many others in your native language?
quote:Sorry to burst your bubble mr CrackerJack... But the human race became a lot (!!!!) taller in 1000 years... Go and see some castles in Holland, and try to fit in an armour there... The people were about 20 cm smaller than we are now... Also our brains and the rest of our body have evolved with it... Also your lungs are able toOp dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 16:41 schreef CrackerJack het volgende:
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Do you actually believe that in 1000 years our cell structure is going to change so much , all by itself, by nature so we can handle space travel in a better way?
I don't think that crusaders from 1000 years ago had a different appearance, or where less evolved as we are today
You also talk about crop circles, why are aliens making them? If they are making them to tell something, why don't they come out in public?
Oh, and if I may ask, why do you come to a dutch speaking forum if there are so many others in your native language?
adapt to certain circumstances (mostly to do with polution) in only a few years... It's
how I think cancer (the bad cancer cells) is part of failures in evolution/adaptation...
Also I think our body adapts to whatever geographical change... for example if your
family moves to a place with less sun, and less gravity, in a few generations, your grandchildren will be more white and taller... The closer to the sun (evenaar) the darker you become, and your hear will also grow darker.. It's why a lot of people
in scandinavia have blond hair...
Don't you think Americans look different from Europeans? They almost all have that weird space between their nose and upperlip (which the old native indians had too)... And Europeans only moved there since a little bit more than 500 years...
ur dna is tracable from the mistakes in the dna, and if you trace the dna-errors we
are all coming from a human species in africa, that started traveling all over the
world, evolving in the thousands of years, adapting to where-ever, whatever
circumstances we find ourselves in... It just takes time...
This theory doesn't match with the story from Earthsister, because, to be able to
adapt, you must first find yourself in certain circumstances, and after that your body
will adapt...
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quote:Op dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 16:41 schreef CrackerJack het volgende:
Oh, and if I may ask, why do you come to a dutch speaking forum if there are so many others in your native language?
quote:oftewel in de OP staat al hoe ze hier terecht gekomen is...Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 18:50 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
Hai, Everyone. My name is Nancy Malacaria. My husband's name is Jack. I followed a link from my page counter and found some discussions about my site posted by Aurora025 at Buitenaards Leven Toegegeven , gezworen op Congress&god. (3) I speak only English so I can't read all of the discussion.
etc.
In fact, our brain today still works like when we were living in cages and isn't adapted/evolved to work with computers or other modern stuff. Maybe you are right about people being smaller 1000 years ago, but their cell structure or brain capacity didn't change if I read Darwin's book correctly...
Waarom type ik dit in het engels...
quote:Whehehe.Op dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 18:15 schreef CrackerJack het volgende:
our brain today still works like when we were living in cages....
Waarom type ik dit in het engels...
They've brought us here in cages and released us when the time was right for it.
I also heard that there is an underground base there, is that true??
Is it also true that there are several underground cities where aliens or reptilians live?
The last thing I want to ask you is aboiut the hollow earth. I've heard several times that ufos are flying into a big opening in the North Pole. Do you know something about that??
A few weeks ago I saw a video where they examined an alien with flashlights
Below in the screen in the video you could see the text DNI.
Is this a real alien in the video Nancy??
http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/ufo/Alien_Interview_wm.wmv
Here is a screenshot of the video.
Alien Presence on the Moon?
http://www.ufocasebook.com/moon.html
Strange Things on the Moon
http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa030899.htm
quote:Nice American accent.Op dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 19:04 schreef Aurora025 het volgende:
Is this a real alien in the video Nancy??
http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/ufo/Alien_Interview_wm.wmv
quote:Neucken?Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 18:50 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
I do not represent the UFO field, I represent the alien races.
Thank you for having me.
According to me that link is a wonderfull example of a hoax. Look at 2:09 at the below of the alien head. It disappears in a cube.
I still believe my watch is a UFO.
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quote:Jouw horlogeOp dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 20:01 schreef displission het volgende:
I still believe my watch is a UFO.
Great topic, I'm open minded, so bring it on.
quote:Ja als je het merkt mag je het zeggen.Op dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 20:04 schreef APK het volgende:
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Jouw horloge
Great topic, I'm open minded, so bring it on.
Definitie geven aan UFO's die in de lucht vliegen heeft geen zin. Ik heb gezegt. Dit horloge is een UFO en daarmee uit. Weet je waar die hele crap van devices etc. vandaan komt. Van dat horloge..het is tamelijk ingewikkeld uit te leggen en ik denk ook niet dat ik het ga doen. Waar het iig op neerkomt is dat ik defentie heb gegeven aan een UFO. Je hebt tegenwoordig de beste equipment en je kunt nog en eens geen goede closeup maken van een UFO..en daarbij komt ook nog es dat ik digitale fotografie niet meer vertrouw, daar kan alles mee gebeurt zijn. Zoals die link die hiervoor werd gegeven.
And for the english ppl:
To define a UFO flying in the air is useless. I have said to myself, this watch is a UFO and that's it. DO u know where this crap about devices etc. is from. From that watch. It's a little bit hard to explain and I don't think I will. It comes down to this..I have given meaning to a UFO. Nowadays u have the best equipment and ppl cannot make a nice close up of a UFO..plus I don't trust digital photography anymore, anything could have happened with it. Like the link given before..
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quote:Effe in het Engels.Op dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 20:13 schreef displission het volgende:
Ja als je het merkt mag je het zeggen.
Definitie geven aan UFO's die in de lucht vliegen heeft geen zin. Ik heb gezegt. Dit horloge is een UFO en daarmee uit.
Why are you still wearing your watch if you think it's a UFO
Or do you trust your watch to be good natured?
quote:Because it tells me how late it is..Time to go..time to stop working..Op dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 20:18 schreef APK het volgende:
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Why are you still wearing your watch if you think it's a UFO
Or do you trust your watch to be good natured?
Are these balls of light aliens? And do these balls of light make cropcircles?
quote:Hai, Johan_de_WithOp dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 15:38 schreef Johan_de_With het volgende:
Dear EarthSister,
Either I suffer from seasonal blindness or I have not received an answer to my request for some examples of the extraordinary intercourse that allegedly took place during several formative stages of our experience and species.
Please be so kind as to describe this exchange for me.
Yikes. I apologize, I am backed up on line and off line with my family and work.
I read your first post to me, but it was addressed to somebody else and I was not sure you were talking to me. I have not caught up again to your second post. The site would not let me back in after a I posted just a few responses last night.
However, I am very sorry to admit that I do not know any particular answers to your question:
quote:I can only tell you that I understand that our visiting races have always had contact with individual humans. What influences they have made have always been done one-on-one, and not through any organized source of governing body.L.s.,
Having lurked in the shadows whilst enthusiasts debated the operations and visits of outlandish races to our planet for some time now (and, frankly, chuckling at the Himalayan errors characteristic of their historical persuasions), I am dying to know what commerce our ancestors enjoyed with said races.
Though this is obviously not a game show, I do request you point five of these relations for the following periods:
The New Kingdom of Egypt
The wandering of the Greeks
The dawn of Mesopotamian civilization
The period of troubles in Inca civilization
And, just for good measure:
The Thirty Years War
Please receive my gratitude in advance.
Yours truly,
CW.
quote:I agree with you. This is how I think of it also. People are all the basic same world to world, no higher or lower, no better or worse. However, some know more things, that's all. We are all people.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 15:00 schreef Morwen het volgende:
Hello again, Nancy
I don't think you can speak of better or worse ways of being human. We are what we are and that's just right. I don't believe there is a higher or lower level of being and I don't think the universe works that way.
But that's just the way I think the universe works.
quote:I did not say I think they are better at being human. But better at being people. Almost all of them are people but not human people. All of the races that visit Earth have a great deal more experience in life, and they run their worlds and their meetings with other worlds, on moral principles. Sometimes there are problems, but that is how they base their lives. It is the Universal way.And last but not least: Do they themselves think they are better at being human or is that your own opinion?
I do not mean to say the alien races are perfect. They are not perfect any more than we are. But they have had a very much longer time than we have to learn how to live with each other in peace.
We humans are great too.
quote:I have not heard anything from my alien contacts about sightings at the airport in Denver. I think I have heard it in passing from some people though. I understand that there is one underground facility that belongs to all of the alien races that visit Earth, which is at four corners, CO NM AZ UT, but not in Denver. All of the rest of the underground facilities (bases) on Earth belong to human military.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 18:35 schreef Aurora025 het volgende:
Nancy, nice you are still here on this forum:)
Do you know something about the airport in Denver. I've seen many strange objects there.
I also heard that there is an underground base there, is that true??
quote:None at all on Earth.Is it also true that there are several underground cities where aliens or reptilians live?
quote:I don't know anything about that from the alien races, but it is contradictory to what I already understand.The last thing I want to ask you is aboiut the hollow earth. I've heard several times that ufos are flying into a big opening in the North Pole. Do you know something about that??
It is very common for people to repeat things and more people to repeat them until they are said many times over, but that does not mean they are true. When people repeat things, the things become distorted and exaggerated. It is very difficult for any story, true or not, to be told and retold with integrity. Usually it is the people's own spin and sensationalism that keeps it going with popularity at all.
quote:That video is not of a real alien being. It is impossible because the being would be dead, and because no authentic video would ever be allowed out. However, lousy fakes are sensationalized to help lend incredibility to all true stories and possible similar evidence.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 18:57 schreef Aurora025 het volgende:
A few weeks ago I saw a video where they examined an alien with flashlights
Below in the screen in the video you could see the text DNI.
Is this a real alien in the video Nancy??
http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/ufo/Alien_Interview_wm.wmv
Here is a screenshot of the video.
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quote:If you have personal alien contact, you are related, but not all humans who have contact, know that they have contact. The relationship is by spirit, not by body. We are born with it. Humans who are related to alien life have some natural qualities of their alien contacts. They are inside of us and we may or may not notice them, as is true for all our natural, or psychic, abilities.Op zondag 22 augustus 2004 22:58 schreef lplover het volgende:
How do you know if you are related? Are related people standing closer to aliens or do they have something special? Do aliens only visit you when you are healthy? I've never had a visit of an alien, but I haven't been well these last years. I've had a bad depression, but since a couple of months I'm doing much better so I think I'm healthy again now. Do people who are spiritial have more chance of an alien visiting? I'm kinda spiritial, but I'm only just exploring it.
I'm an 18 year old girl.
The alien races do not have active ongoing physical contact with all of their related humans because most humans will not accept active contact. They still meet whenever necessary, but the humans are usually completely unaware of it.
There are many things that can cause our contact to slow down, and of course illness is one of them. I am sorry to hear of your depression. I hope it disappears.
All people are spiritual whether they know it or not. The people who think spiritually in a natural way (I don't mean a religious way) are more open to realizing it if they have alien contact. People who think spiritually are more likely to embrace the opportunity to work with alien life.
quote:All or almost all races speak their own languages vocally, but they also speak telepathically with less effort and more clarity. We cannot normally speak each others language sounds race to race, so communication between races is almost always telepathic.Do aliens speak like we speak, or do they use some kind of telepathy? How old can they get? And the last question (sorry of all those questions) what do aliens eat?
Most races live hundreds of years. The longest living beings of a race that visits Earth, live to be about 1000 years.
All the races that visit Earth eat the natural foods that grow on their own worlds. They eat only what their bodies absorb.
Another question: How many years are these races in advance of us, and how old is the eldest, thus the most advanced, race?
And my last question: You probably heard about the NPCC_full.wmv file. A congres about aliens from the National Press Club. Is this in any way related to you and your husbands story? and if so, at what points?
edit: And just out of curiousity: Do aliens make love the way we know it?
Sorry if i sound a bit skeptical, but you can't blame me or anyone else of that, since *refers to my first question*
yours sincerely
quote:I understand that using particular drugs alters our consciousness, and therefore our awareness of things we are normally only aware of in other states of consciousness. But doing drugs does not call the aliens over.Op maandag 23 augustus 2004 12:28 schreef B-FliP het volgende:
Hey nancy...
Could it be our ancestors found ways in contacting multi-dimensional beings using psychedelics?
I mean, why would so many shamans have rituals involving psychedelic drugs (like salvia divinorum, DMT, etc.)?... Because the ignorant scum all got rid of those people we simply cannot
ask... Did you have any psychonautical experiences yourself? I know this sounds dangerous because some people could call you overtripped or insane after admitting using psychedelics...
I heared in some states in the USA you can even be declared insane officially and taken away your civil rights after they could prove you've done LSD for more than 7 times, wonder what they
are affraid of...
I never use any kinds of drugs. All of my spiritual experiences have been naturally occurring.
quote:I don't know what it was. It sounds like the drugs altered your state of consciousness to make you aware of things. But the things you experienced are all messed up because your mind was all messed up. It is possible that you have alien contact, and you only forced yourself aware by no participation of any alien beings.In one experience, I was "out of my body" for about 15 minutes, hearing, but not with my ears, seeing, but not with my eyes... There was no time nor material in where I was, if you could say
I was anywhere at all... All I "saw" were energy lines, stretching out on a black plain, with colourful "roads" and there were other beings there, this place was not of this world and I can
only discribe it as "another dimension" (I know this sounds very overtripped, but I can't explain it
in any other words)... Also by then I gained some "knowledge", getting answers without asking
questions... The first thing I got was that there was no way of getting closer to what we call death
then I was at that very moment, and it did not feel bad... The second thing was that people (some of them were worldleaders) used our energy for their own purposes... That's where I got the strange feeling a story like "the matrix" is in fact a metaphor on our reality, ironic, maybe even a sarcastic view of our global society...
I could not get close to the beings I saw, for I did not know how to move around there...
Do you have a logical explanation for this experience?
quote:Music is a lovely focus point for meditation, which may bring us to a state of being able to communicate telepathically with other beings.Also I believe that we in fact are also multi-dimensional beings, we've just lost the touch...
What do you think of music being used by multi-dimensional beings to get in a state of trance where
we could communicate interdimensionally?
I think you are confusing "states of consciousness" with "dimensions." States of consciousness are parts of yourself, and dimensions are places inside of, or in the same place as other places. I do not know if it is accurate to call humans "multidimensional." But you can enter or see into other dimensions while out of body.
quote:There are many people who have alien experiences. Not all are representatives, working professionally and personally with the alien beings, and working between our worlds for the purpose of teaching. Most people who can do it, will not do it, or cannot do it responsibly.Although I find it strange that you call yourself a representative, because there should be many representatives out there if there are any representatives out there, I am seriously interested in your answers, because I simply cannot forget what I've experienced...
quote:Hai, DonGorgonOp maandag 23 augustus 2004 14:59 schreef DonGorgon het volgende:
Hi EartSister
quote:NoI hope you not saying you're from the future with codename Traveller_05 and also looking for a specific IBM computer
quote:We all have four. Zar named them to me like this:Op maandag 23 augustus 2004 15:34 schreef Gatts het volgende:
You mention 4 states of awareness, but i only read 2 examples of states of awareness. Can you explain what those other 2 are like?
Physical (what we are so well aware of)
Meditative/Regressive (begins as meditation and goes deeper to regression)
Dream (not sleep)
Origination (the part god made by hand)
The physical is what we are well aware of. The other three are spiritual states together. (but the physical is spiritual also, and the spiritual is in some ways physical also)
The goal is to become physically aware of what your spirit is already aware of. To do this, you connect your states of consciousness, or you try to. The attempt will have affects. Most people can do this to some degree, and if you practice, you can get better at it. But it does not produce any psychedelic affects.
quote:We can offer them our friendship and assurance of peace between us. We are unique and think in dynamic ways. We will always have a lot to offer and we will discover more of what it is as we continue to expand and evolve.Also when i read that the alien races think we're making big mistakes, and they want to help us facing those problems. Why do they care so much about us? Have we got something to offer them?
, i just came up with another 3 im dying to ask.1. why are the aliens trying to contact us now, why not 200 years ago or 200 years in the future?
and 2. Why are you using the internet for distribution of your experiences, wouldnt it be incredibly easy to take a good camera and make a few nice shots of them?
and my last again
: If i remember correctly, you have children, what do they think of all of this or do they have those experiences, too? although i can understand if you dont want to answer that question.thanks
According to u " they" excist. What is according to u their purpose? What is their goal?
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quote:dan zullen ze wel geen humor hebbenOp woensdag 25 augustus 2004 11:32 schreef APK het volgende:
She ignores my questions.
quote:Het zijn de vulcansOp woensdag 25 augustus 2004 11:48 schreef _Supreme het volgende:
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dan zullen ze wel geen humor hebben
(Star Trek...)quote:The part god made by hand? Are you suggesting all races under one God? Did they manage to find him, given they've been at it longer.Op woensdag 25 augustus 2004 05:51 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
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We all have four. Zar named them to me like this:
Physical (what we are so well aware of)
Meditative/Regressive (begins as meditation and goes deeper to regression)
Dream (not sleep)
Origination (the part god made by hand)
quote:You suspect they are gossiping about you?Op woensdag 25 augustus 2004 09:48 schreef displission het volgende:
Do the aliens speak about me? I'm 25 m Holland..
But really don't you think they would either contact you themselves or you would be able to contact them?
[ Bericht 11% gewijzigd door The_Shining op 25-08-2004 13:59:42 ]
Now I'm serious (sorry about that other question, but I had to)
I got many questions for you, you might be able to answer. If not please ask the ET's (not from the movie) the next time you have contact with them.
What I would like to know is;
- For how long have they been visiting our planet?
- Did these extraterrestials had anything to do with the human revolution?
- Is our 'God' truelly the Lord of Sirius?
- Do they have any contact with higher placed people, like in government or so?
- Is the Area 51 story true?
- Were they the 'Gods' in our old Egypt?
- Is Niburu a real planet within our solar system?
- What are we, humans, up against in the near future? (as in quantummechanics and string theory and the 'theory to everything')
- Did they already find the answer of the 'whole' (secrets of existence/universe)
- Howmany civilized beings are there in the universe?
And last, but not least:
- Why don't they show themselves to the public?
Regards
DonGorgon
http://ca.msnusers.com/TheProjectAtEarth/
Interview met Nancy
http://room23.de/1453.html
quote:Grappige is dat ik dit al ergens een keer gelezen heb (openbaring Tokyo). Ik kan me alleen de bron niet meer herinneren. Kan ook heel goed uit de Thiaoouba Prohpecy (www.thiaoouba.com) komen hoor...ik weet het echt niet meerOp woensdag 25 augustus 2004 15:16 schreef Aurora025 het volgende:
Nancy, you told that aliens will make open contact in Tokyo, can you tell us when that will be??
quote:And why in [put supreme being here]'s name, i mean, is it because the western world ( where i mean United States and Europe ) are hostile towards the Aliens or are there other considerations?Op woensdag 25 augustus 2004 15:16 schreef Aurora025 het volgende:
Nancy, you told that aliens will make open contact in Tokyo, can you tell us when that will be??
. Don't know if you are pulling our leg or not but i have to say that you are consistent in your anwers and you really take time to give them. Nice job and good luck here . quote:Hai back, coz.Op maandag 23 augustus 2004 15:58 schreef coz het volgende:
just wanting to say hi
you're question on how some people see the denial and ignore, well this weekend i thought of the next theory..( truthers=people who wanna believe, debunkers= people who like to prove the first are wrong ..as you probably know) that those two sides are like yin and yang, wich is good in essence, else it would remain 'floaty chat' from the believers, and because there are always new fakes, whoever makes it, to do whatever. sometimes believers do tend to see fakes as evidence, until there proved hoaxes of course.
well both yin and yang have a part from the other, the debunkers love to laugh now, and when a case holds up as unproved to be anything, the believers would love to laugh at the debunkers.
i pity the silent treatment when its hard to prove as a fake though. the whole concept fascinates me and i do tend to wanna believe it all. but imo its very unthoughtfull to say we are alone. most people realise that, but add that its unlikely they visit us. well the chance is slim judged by the size of the universe but then again, we are so small most cannot grasp aliens would be able to deal with those problems, as they probably did eons ago.
Thank you for your deep thoughts. And I agree!
quote:Hai, APK. Sorry to make you wait for my response. I am answering in order as well as I can. Maybe I missed somebody by accident. If so, please remind me.Op maandag 23 augustus 2004 16:46 schreef APK het volgende:
Wow, that Zylem character is fat chill.
What's the handbag for?
Edit: Or is it a crash helmet
[afbeelding]
Is that a picture of you for your avatar?
Yes, that is a helmet. Zylem's race is the race we humans came from.
I don't know what a fat chill is, but Zylem is a man, in case it means something sexy. Maybe I should draw him over again?
quote:I have no knowledge of any mixture of DNA from an outside race in the case of humans. If there has been, I have not been told it by the alien races.Op maandag 23 augustus 2004 17:12 schreef Mobious het volgende:
I read almost all posts. It's quite interesting.
Unfortunately, this is the post where you go wrong. Our DNA for (for example) the enzyme cytochrome C, can be tracked down in almost all species on earth. Even in fish, ants or fungea.
The mutations in the DNA sequence for this enzyme for different species shows us a quite complete guide on how species on earth evolved. There is no evidence for mixture from outside in the case of the humans race (or other species or races).
I know you can say "But they adapted the DNA sequence to our environment to mislead biotechnicians". Well, I will remind you of Ockham's razor.
I don't think the aliens tried to mislead our biotechnicians.
I suspect that whatever changes occur in or over the approximate 1000 years before our cell structure is fit for (real) space travel, may be starting at some point and not evolving continuously over all time.
I have no professional or lay understanding of biotechnicals. I am repeating what I was told, and I am sure there is a lot more to the simple explanation I was given. That happens a lot when I get bits of information from the aliens.
quote:Could you please answer this one?Op maandag 23 augustus 2004 15:34 schreef Gatts het volgende:
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Thnx for answering my questions so well!
But i've got 2 more questions.
You mention 4 states of awareness, but i only read 2 examples of states of awareness. Can you explain what those other 2 are like?
Also when i read that the alien races think we're making big mistakes, and they want to help us facing those problems. Why do they care so much about us? Have we got something to offer them?
quote:Hai, Xrenity.Op dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 11:55 schreef Xrenity het volgende:
Are the aliens planning to show themselves to us in the next couple of years? And how can the government 'threat' them? I guess the Aliens are more advanced than us earthlings.
btw, Newsman, leer engels en doe is normaal.
When the aliens are going to show themselves, I do not know, except as they say "soon." Soon, when they say it, means to me "before much changes."
I suspect any day now to maybe as long as 10 years. But I think it will be much sooner than 10 years. I have asked them when, and they do not even know exactly yet, and will not give me any time frame for it. I can only guess by what I see happening both with the alien races and with the human race.
I think we have been in dire need of true knowledge of our visiting races for a long time already, but our governments control information. The threat to the aliens is blackmail against their public reputation. And framing them for crimes. Also against the aliens physically by military assault. Also against the individual humans who work seriously on these issues with the aliens and dare to let their knowledge be publicly known.
If you went down town and a busy day and an alien craft flew over to let everyone there see them, next thing that went wrong down town would professionally be blamed on the aliens. When a publicly known alien experiencer suddenly disappears, who do the people think abducted him, the aliens or the government? See, what the people are told and will believe by their leaders is "everything" when it comes to public disclosure and molds how people feel about the aliens.
It is very dangerous for a public to depend so desperately on their leaders to protect them, when it is the leaders who are misleading the public. The leaders are designing the public consensus "about" the alien races. All the aliens have to do is "show up" for that to mean that everything they have been taught here about the aliens must be true! The sightings are the peoples' proof that the aliens are the monsters our leaders demand they are.
The alien races are visitors to our world and race. They cannot split the publics and their governments. They treat our world and our race as one whole, and can only educate individual humans for disbursement of information at our discretion, and continue to offer our world leaders their assistance.
The point will come among our race where enough individual humans are educated and personally experienced enough for us to figure out that our governments are indeed lying to the publics, and what they are lying about and why. At that point, which is upon us, and will be over some period of time, we will push the governmental aspects of our humanity to change at public demand.
The alien races are much further advanced than we are. They could take over in a heartbeat if that was any solution to all our twisted systems. This is our own world and only we can change it. Only, we could ask for some help from those who have been through it already.
quote:Didn't I?Op woensdag 25 augustus 2004 23:14 schreef Gatts het volgende:
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Could you please answer this one?
quote:No probs.Op woensdag 25 augustus 2004 22:54 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
Hai, APK. Sorry to make you wait for my response. I am answering in order as well as I can. Maybe I missed somebody by accident.
quote:Erm, no that's Mr Beckham, a soccerplayer who, btw, shot a football into orbit during the last European championships.Is that a picture of you for your avatar?
Maybe if one of your friends encounters it, it could be given back to it's rightful owner.
quote:Fat chill means something like 'cool', nothing sexual about it, although he looks a bit like a Thai lady-boy, so no need to draw him again.Yes, that is a helmet. Zylem's race is the race we humans came from.
I don't know what a fat chill is, but Zylem is a man, in case it means something sexy. Maybe I should draw him over again?
I found it slightly odd that he's carrying the crash helmet, while the rest of his outfit looks like it's been purchased at your local H&M's
Like he just stepped of his moped or something.
Thanks for your answers.
quote:Yes, there is a very strict order by which the alien races can personally contact individual humans. The aliens can only "disrupt" the lives of their own related humans, to offer the opportunity to accept and progress with contact for the purpose of bringing our worlds together. Among those related to the alien races, few can or will accept contact and progress with it on a physical level. Still, all humans who are related to alien life have some extent of contact, but most of them are kept unaware of it to respect the contactee's life and wishes. Most who have contact continue to see their alien contacts through life but not with any ongoing, daily participation in the plans to open contact with our world.Op dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 13:13 schreef sweetgirly het volgende:
Very interesting topic, whether is truth or not, the information and your devotion in a open (minded) and quit way is great.[/orange]
Thank you very much for your candid support.
[quote] is there a particular reason that aliens (if they exist or not, in my opion that's even not a issue in this question) come to some particular people? Or do they not? Is there a connection between alien contact, the time when there a visiting you, come to you, or is there not?
There is a direct connection between alien contact and the time in our lives when they make themselves known to us, how often they visit and what kinds of things we work on together with them. The hopeful plans are made before our lifetimes, and then in the process of our lives we work with those plans as well as we can, considering all the confusion and distractions that come with trying to live a normal life while doing things openly that most other people around us disagree with, and make us look like "fruitcakes" to our families and peers.
Every alien experiencer's role is different, just as to run a factory everyone's role is different. Nobody can do everything, and every part is a vital piece of the whole. Progress can only roll as fast and as well as the individuals work together as a whole. My role is as a public speaker. The things I am taught by my alien contacts are designed for the purpose of helping others, especially other alien experiencers, their families and the professional investigators. Many people who work with alien life do it in private, and in private they are protected from the abuse of government agencies and public opinion. Most people who have the opportunity to work with alien life are too scared and confused and cannot and will not even consider it when offered. Our instincts of fear are great, and the propaganda and public opinion are great against them.
quote:They come to me because I volunteered before my life, and came here for this purpose. After that, they come to me because I am able to comprehend them due to my natural abilities that are in part of my spiritual heritage, my natural relationship with them. But mostly they come to me because I want with all my heart and soul to help the progress of bringing understanding of alien life to our human race, and to help the progress of uniting our worlds. I am willing and trustworthy to relay information with integrity, so among all those who have this opportunity, I am one of a few who are given a great deal of teaching by the alien races. It sounds strange, I know, but every world arrives at this point early in their natural evolution, as we are right now. Not all races have as much difficulties with infighting and propaganda as we do though.Why do you think they come to you? And why do you think they're not coming to some other people (apart from the question if they've noticed already and want to noticed)? What is the relation between that? And for others, I'm not talking about psychical diseases or something in that order, just curiousity.
quote:Haha, you got that right that humans are stubbornNext question, to throw a film in it
There are some signs to look for, but mostly if the aliens want you to know that you have contact, they will make it abundantly clear. And if they do not want you to know, or to know yet, they hide it from you. I have a page on my site that lists some of the things I look for in helping others determine whether they have personal alien contact. They are not criteria, but signs I can go by to make a good guess. A few key indications together are strongly indicative of contact, as well as a few together are indicative of no alien contact: http://www.theprojectatearth.com/ContacteeQuiz.html. See if you can tell which ones go together.
You either have contact or you don't. If you do, you can discover it. If you try to discover it, your alien contacts may let you know it now or at some time in the future. In any case, we are all having "experiences" with many people all of the time, not just alien experiencers meeting with alien life. There is a great deal to discover in our spiritual existence, actively engaged daily and nightly. Look for the aliens, and you will discover your spiritual activities, no matter what they are, aliens or no aliens.
Right now, the aliens can only make contact with their individual human relations. Random contact is very rare and only circumstantial. However, every human is concerned with the visitation to our race and world, and in the future of our open relationship more often unrelated humans will have casual and professional alien contact.
http://www.theprojectatearth.com/ContacteeQuiz.html
I am still a bit sceptical about what you say, nonetheless I do have a question for you;
The alien races are trying to make contact with us (inhabitants of planet earth) to make sure we all can live in peace and harmony. Personally i believe that it is impossible to have peace and harmony due to our energy consumption of fossile fuels and in the near future the lack of those.
Our visitors have other sources of energy generation. Why haven't they shared their techniques with us? It would be a major improvement for planet earth and a great step towards a peacefull live.
quote:Originally, Steven Greer was purely motivated. I have talked with him several times in forums on the Internet before his project launched. He may still be purely motivated personally, but obviously his project's progress has waned. My suspicion is that he is pressured by the government.Op dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 15:26 schreef Xrenity het volgende:
Some questions from a friend of mine which can't seem to register here
1. what do you think of the disclosure project, are they speaking the truth?
The US government will "never" disclose its crimes or corrupt activities about anything, including those concerning our visiting races.
quote:I know about them. My opinion is my own, that they are not channelings from God. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. There are too many errors in the writings, which few are a matter of my own knowledge. I do not believe that God "channels" through individuals in this way. If God did that, then anybody could claim to also be doing it for God. I believe that God works in many ways through any or all individuals, just not in this particular way. It is always good to do good things, and many good people have very good ideas and advice. To claim that it comes directly from God can still be misleading for personal reasons of famous gains. I have seen it happen many times in many ways in the circles of people I meet with. There are too many suppositions among the human groups to "channeling" and to claim to be doing it, and without educating an audience against it are telling clues to who is preying on those easily led. Good messages are not honest when they mislead anybody, however well-meaning. They undermine the natures of life just as we are trying to learn them.2. Do you know about these books : www.cwg.org , and what do you think of them?
quote:Time does exist, but does not exist "the way humans think of it." Time is not linear, but a circle. Time is also dimensional. The advanced races live by a clock, but not based on our concepts of time. This is the way it has been explained very simply to me by my alien friends, but please do not assume that I understand it better than you can.3. Is is true that time does not exist, and is just an illusion made my humans? Do aliens live their life by following a 'clock', just like we are?
quote:I don't think Mr Bush, his friends and their bank-accounts would be too happy with that.Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 01:00 schreef Freeflyer het volgende:
Our visitors have other sources of energy generation. Why haven't they shared their techniques with us? It would be a major improvement for planet earth and a great step towards a peacefull live.
The link didn'd work, because of the full stop after the URL.
Thank you, Mr Beckham, I mean APK.
Do you have photographs of the aliens at home?
quote:It's all right if you don't believe, but don't give up. This is very hard to explain. To understand it yourself, think the possibility all the way through to the end result. You don't know what the aliens are like, but you do know what humans are like. Think of how humans you see daily behave, and how each faction of the systems of humanity is behaving about alien contact.Op dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 15:51 schreef IronSkull het volgende:
I just don't believe all of this.....
Why a spokesman? If they are a technologically advanced race, then they would decipher our languages and make their plans official themselves.... human spokesmen would just be called crazy, wouldn't be believed... AND there could be misunderstandings... no, they must've seen that spokesmen are not useful.
Spokesmen are key because they offer open understanding without any possibility of trickery. And because unfortunately our leaders and those who work for them are invested in ruining any true, shared information. The alien races' attempts to open contact between our worlds is taken by our leaders as a threat to the way our leaders run our world. If you depend on the professionals in leadership to share information of alien life to the publics, all you get is propaganda. The aliens have to go behind the leaders' backs to the individuals who are willing to handle the information for all. This puts those individuals in danger of harassment and worse from those who do not want the truth shared.
Education is imperative, because without being able to see, hear and consider evidence and true information for ourselves, we are at the mercy of those who feed us. In the information that comes directly from the aliens, there is always some degree of misunderstanding. The concepts are so vastly advanced and dynamic, that learning a little bit creates more confusion as it comes. It takes time to learn things. It takes time to learn enough more things to actually understand things past taught. The process is step by step. If our BEST scientists and investigators were not controlled by government, they could be helping all of us understand, instead of keeping us confused with "It was a weather balloon."
Without personal experience and education being dotted throughout our publics by the aliens, despite government police, we have no personal reason to believe anything the aliens say anyway. The leading government agencies can just announce, "The aliens are here, lock all doors, do not approach! This is an invasion!" as they fire a few missiles, light a few fires and drop a few bombs around for effect. What good would that do for education or awareness of the aliens' intentions? All of the damage that would be done by that way of contact would take a very long time to undo, before we could progress back to the point we were at when so many people were still looking up at the sky asking, "What aliens?"
quote:You are right. But that "proof" better prove the right thing to us, before the aliens show up for all to see. Otherwise, when we see them, it will only prove to us what the governments tell us about them.If an advanced race would come here to help us, they would know they had to show some proof of their knowledge and technology, to make sure people would believe them. I won't believe someone has visited us, until they come here and say so themselves....
Evidence of the visitation of alien life is all over our planet and throughout our histories. If people have never had the personal experience of knowing the aliens and what they are like yet, and so loyally and blindly will believe the professional explanation "It was space ice." then how can we convince them their governments are lying?
Belief is not the most important thing right now. Belief can happen in a heartbeat and does for the increasing numbers of individuals who have personal contact, and the small groups of people who are watching the skies. But education is vital and that takes time, investigation, listening, talking and considering the possibilities for ourselves.
Don't believe everything you hear, but don't settle for anything less than your own education. The evidence part is easy. Just look around. Watch the news. Watch the sky.
quote:Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 00:41 schreef APK het volgende:
The link didn'd work, because of the full stop after the URL.
http://www.theprojectatearth.com/ContacteeQuiz.html
I just wanted to say that APK: 'without the mark (stip) it does work'.Thank you very much for answering the questions Earthsister.
Only I did the test, and uhm, I answered almost all the questions with yes
. I do not want to say it to loud, cause else maybe people can say: 'then you belong to a mental institution'. (joke for myself, for somebody elses do ). But I have the strong feeling that I'm not crazy (well a little maybe , but who's not?), the other opportunity ('s) I remain open. I also have one question (or 2 maybe). I do not want to make it more for now, because you are already so busy. Once I saw, on a very normal day, sowell (what is the word in English for this, I forget
) for myself and in the sky, nice wheather etc, a sort of light that collapse in the sky. The sky was blue, I was walking to the busstation, looked up, and it was like a piece of the sky was opened, sort of light-exploiting, but in a certain quit way, like I don't must miss it. Arghhh, my English. Oh, and it was very beautiful. But for a moment, when I look to it and saw it, I was a little shocked. I also for a second thought something of: 'this is it, they're coming of they are here'
. The strange thing was, that I found it (later) not so strange, but on the other hand, what must and can you do when you see something..nothing. It looks almost normal. Looked around me, and everything was also normal, including me, life just goes on. So strange. Yes, that was strange that it was not so strange. And later ocurred the thought in my mind that maybe I have something with my brains (yes, to much movies seen maybe). But I also think there's nothing wrong with that. Stronger, I haven't had headaches for over a year now (and I was a migraine-patient), sometimes (read: 1 to 3 times) a little, but that dissapeared very fast when I noticed the headache.
But well, I have a list of these things, all a little strange, but for me somethings not so strange, like I somewhere deep in my mind knew that it (this or that) gonna happened, and it did or it didn't surprise me so much (like maybe a other human shit the chicken out of him), I don't now if you can follow me on this. And somethings I'm so sure of that it was no (t my) imagination. One time I also have seen 3 beings or whatever they are, by my bed. The thing I most wondered of by this, was that I was so tired. In one of the first reactions in this topic somebody also mentioned this, and in my mind occured the words 'greys' and when I read further you mentioned then the greys. But that's coincidence. I was so tired and exhausted that I thought something of: 'well, let it be then', like I was able to do something about it, not. And I didn't have also the energy for it then.
I only hope that if they were beings (interdimensional beings or whatever
), that the intention was not to harm me. And like you also already said, really do not want to harm any people. But my question then, why I was then so exhausted (my whole body did, muzzles everything and I didn't have sport or something that day or night ?). For the rest I was feeling (very) good and (or but) sometimes (very) confused. A few times a little exhausted on school (but who's not ), like I was in the night or when I was dreaming doing all sort of things. I also have the question for myself if ears have something to do with it, noises etc. I know in out of body expierences they (can) have a connection with it, is there also a connection in this maybe? Arghhh, when I think of it, it's almost to grazy for words
. The feeling I have of all of this was a little that I was struggle to not lose myself, but I lost the fight or not that's the question (ok, now I'm being a little dramatic). It was that a overwhelming sound everytime comes when I was lying in my bed (and spikkles and etc..pfff), that occured when I was relaxed lying waiting for sleep to come, then the noises come etc etc. Almost like they (sometimes) tease me with it or something like that ('you musn't fall in sleep'), sometimes that also have occured in my mind. But in another way it also can be that I wás losing myself in a way, meditation or BDE, name it, but then aware of it (that it gonna happened), hard to explain. My thoughts dissapeared or want to dissapear, and then maybe come the noises etc. How harder I tried, it all didn't work, 'it' was to strong. But I'm now gonna stop.
Again, thanx for your time and answers.
Goodnight.
[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door sweetgirly op 26-08-2004 03:06:52 (my grammatic :{) ]
quote:Hai, AuroraOp donderdag 26 augustus 2004 01:17 schreef Aurora025 het volgende:
Nancy, from all the photographs of aliens on the internet there must be at least one which is authentic. Isn't is possible that you show us a real photograph of an alien that circles on the internet.
Do you have photographs of the aliens at home?
I have seen many photographs of alleged alien beings. I have never seen an authentic photograph of an alien being. I do not have one either. It's not allowed.
There are many photographs and videos of alien crafts though. I don't have one, though.
quote:Yes, they have a great love for humor! And they are so smart, that makes them even funnier to us. When they are with me and my husband, they are almost always "all business" but every once in a while we get a treat of some personal time with them. Some of the funniest things they do is tease each other. Then the expressions on their faces, looking at each other, in conjunction with their inaudible telepathy is surprising and shocking kind of funny.Op dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 16:10 schreef APK het volgende:
Dear EarthSister,
Do alien races have any concept of humour?
If so, do you know any jokes they tell about us earthlings?
quote:Oops. They don't really tell jokes cold, at least not to us during our meetings, but sometimes they make jokes in conversation. Sometimes they have played tricks on us, but that is not the standard way things go during our formal meetings. I will share some of the things another time, only because they are so unreal sounding, they seem even more impossible to hear them told.Op dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 16:10 schreef APK het volgende:
Dear EarthSister,
Do alien races have any concept of humour?
If so, do you know any jokes they tell about us earthlings?
quote:that's more like mime then.Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 02:23 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
Then the expressions on their faces, looking at each other, in conjunction with their inaudible telepathy is surprising and shocking kind of funny.
Just my luck.
quote:That sounds better.Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 02:41 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
Oops. They don't really tell jokes cold, but they make jokes in conversation. Sometimes they have played tricks on us, but that is not the standard way things go during our meetings. I will share some of the things another time, only because they are so unreal sounding, they seem even more impossible to hear them told.
I've got another question, it might sound really stupid, but....
Are they involved in sports?
You know, like we have the Olympics for earhtlings.
Do they compete against other races from different planets?
quote:The authentic ones the aliens make are coded messages. Many you ever see today are fakes made by human special interest groups.Op dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 16:41 schreef CrackerJack het volgende:
You also talk about crop circles, why are aliens making them? If they are making them to tell something, why don't they come out in public?
The alien races make them to create for us a written history of visitation and intention. They are coded so that they cannot be decyphered yet. If they could be decyphered, then any humans could fake more of them and claim they are authentic. By the time we decypher them, they will tell a long story about the aliens, where they come from and why.
quote:I speak in many places on line and off line. I saw this forum on my hit counter for my site and followed it in to see what was being said. I found a nice forum of interesting members, so I decided to post.Oh, and if I may ask, why do you come to a dutch speaking forum if there are so many others in your native language?
Everyone all over the world needs to hear about the alien races whether they believe about them or not. I just go with the flow.
quote:IploverOp dinsdag 24 augustus 2004 21:35 schreef lplover het volgende:
I've once seen something on the tv about a boy that lived in Brabant (province) I believe. He was always followed by balls of light. They flew around in his garden. His parents and family have also seen this. He once went out to a crop field at night (I believe he saw something) and there he saw a ball of light approching him and then he passed out. When he woke up again he was laying in a cropcircle.
Are these balls of light aliens? And do these balls of light make cropcircles?
Some of the alien races have shapes of balls of light as well as their people shape.
But it sounds to me as if the claims about this boy are not accurate because the stories, or perhaps just the way the stories are told, sound like folly.
The alien beings are not hanging around create mysteries. They are diligent in thier work. To make a boy wake up in a crop circle just sounds like added detail for sensationalism. People do that all the time in the telling and retelling over and over by the time you hear it. It's not your fault, but look at how you said it here and others will be interested and repeat it in another place. That's how it happens. No stories about anything are ever safe from the retelling.
Alien beings make the authentic crop circles, but they use technology to make them. I do not think that they fly over crops as balls of light and make them. But I do not know or experience everything either. Perhaps some alien crafts look like balls of light and some alien beings fly them down over crops to make patterns. I am open to the possibility, but the stories of this boy still sound like they are sensational, whether rooted in truth or not. It is too hard to tell.
quote:I recently addressed this more in depth on this thread. Let me know if you can't find it.Op woensdag 25 augustus 2004 05:27 schreef P8 het volgende:
Hi, i've got a few questions, one is already asked but i couldnt find an answer anywhere: Why are the aliens contacting individuals. why arent they showing themselves in the media? Not that they should join David Letterman, but isnt it a lot easier to show themselves in public?
quote:The races that visit Earth are hundreds of thousands, millions, and billions of years further advanced and evolved than we are. The oldest race that visits Earth is over 6 billion years.Another question: How many years are these races in advance of us, and how old is the eldest, thus the most advanced, race?
quote:I do not know what this is, so I suspect Jack and I have nothing to do with it.And my last question: You probably heard about the NPCC_full.wmv file. A congres about aliens from the National Press Club. Is this in any way related to you and your husbands story? and if so, at what points?
quote:Yes. All races of people are males and females and procreate in the same basic way.edit: And just out of curiousity: Do aliens make love the way we know it?
quote:I don't blame anyone for disbelief. I understand. If it was not happening to me I would not believe it either. No problem, really.Sorry if i sound a bit skeptical, but you can't blame me or anyone else of that, since *refers to my first question*
yours sincerely
quote:The time is now because of the point we are at in our evolution. Look at everything around. Intelligence, world communication (Internet), rebellion against dictatorship, and NEED. It's time now, and we are capable of accepting contact now.Op woensdag 25 augustus 2004 06:10 schreef P8 het volgende:
im filled with questions, sorry about that
1. why are the aliens trying to contact us now, why not 200 years ago or 200 years in the future?
quote:The Internet reaches out to those who want to hear it, all over the world. I speak in many different kind of places on line and in person. Any "proof" could be a trick, and you would not be able to tell one trick from another. The alien races offer no trick, and neither do I.and 2. Why are you using the internet for distribution of your experiences, wouldnt it be incredibly easy to take a good camera and make a few nice shots of them?
I teach. I don't prove. The aliens never allow photographs of themselves.
quote:Jack and I have five children. They each have ongoing experiences with our alien friends. They are not comfortable publicly speaking except either one-on-one or in a closed alien experiencer group. Their experiences are very much like what mine and Jack's were like when we were their ages, except for the fact that our children have us to help them understand what is going on.and my last again
In some very important, futuristic ways, our children are already way ahead of us with integrating their alien experiences into their normal lives. I will be very excited to see what they do when they are all grown up.
quote:Hai, displissionOp woensdag 25 augustus 2004 09:48 schreef displission het volgende:
Earthsister will u also respond to my posts? Do the aliens speak about me? I'm 25 m Holland..
According to u " they" excist. What is according to u their purpose? What is their goal?
My alien contacts have not discussed you with me.
The aliens' purpose of being here at Earth is to unite our worlds. Their goal is to build a diplomatic relationship with our world.
quote:APKOp donderdag 26 augustus 2004 01:54 schreef APK het volgende:
EarthSister, aren't you afraid the government might come after you, since you're sharing your knowledge
Afraid, yes and no. The govt agencies watch my family from time to time. They follow us and tap our phones. Sometimes we have had more serious trouble with them, but not anymore.
quote:Do you mean the NSA, FBI or what? And what kind of questions do you have to awnser?Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 05:13 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
APK
Afraid, yes and no. The govt agencies watch my family from time to time. They follow us and tap our phones. Sometimes we have had more serious trouble with them, but not anymore.
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quote:If you are interested in learning more about the subject, I would like to suggest you look them up in the Tao (Lao Tzu's "Tao te Ching") & buddhist (especially the writings from Nagarjuna) philosophies.Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 01:05 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
Time does exist, but does not exist "the way humans think of it." Time is not linear, but a circle. Time is also dimensional. The advanced races live by a clock, but not based on our concepts of time. This is the way it has been explained very simply to me by my alien friends, but please do not assume that I understand it better than you can.
quote:Sorry, i've overlooked itOp woensdag 25 augustus 2004 23:27 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
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Didn't I?
, but still thanks for the answer!I'll come back on it later.
ze willen van ons vriendschap, maar wij hebben geen technologie waar ze in zijn geinterreseerd.
er zijn heel veel rassen, en het oudste ras is 6 miljard jaar oud.
de aliens planten zich net zoals ons voort en hebben een goede humor door elkaar te dissen.
cool
What do the aliens think of the Asteroide "Toutatis"? Will it hit earth? And if it does, can they help us change it's course before it hits?
Thanks again for answering
.quote:Tja, daar komt het, om het kort samen te vatten, wel op neer.Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 12:09 schreef _Supreme het volgende:
dus de aliens komen bínnen 10 jaar, en zullen zich als eerste in tokyo laten zien.
ze willen van ons vriendschap, maar wij hebben geen technologie waar ze in zijn geinterreseerd.
er zijn heel veel rassen, en het oudste ras is 6 miljard jaar oud.
de aliens planten zich net zoals ons voort en hebben een goede humor door elkaar te dissen.
cool
Weet je waar ik opeens aan zit te denken? De Maya's en hun '2012' ('tis immers binnen 10 jaar). Zou er een link (kunnen) zijn?
quote:Deze heb ik al voor je beantwoord in Asteroid 4179 ToutatisOp donderdag 26 augustus 2004 12:24 schreef Morwen het volgende:
Hi Nancy,
What do the aliens think of the Asteroide "Toutatis"? Will it hit earth? And if it does, can they help us change it's course before it hits?
Thanks again for answering
quote:Ja, ik zag het, jaOp donderdag 26 augustus 2004 12:30 schreef DonGorgon het volgende:
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Deze heb ik al voor je beantwoord in Asteroid 4179 Toutatis
.Maar ik hoor het ook graag van de ruimte-experts die de schat van dichtbij hebben gezien en zijn baan tot op de millimeter weten
quote:Het antwoord kwam ook bij NASA vandaan. Als die de milimeters niet weten...Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 12:41 schreef Morwen het volgende:
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Ja, ik zag het, ja
Maar ik hoor het ook graag van de ruimte-experts die de schat van dichtbij hebben gezien en zijn baan tot op de millimeter weten
Why do you/everyone think the aliens look all the same. for example, somewhere in this topic you were asked whether you knew that kind of reptilian looking alien or not. You said you didnt. But why should they all look the same. we humans, are all unique in apperance. there are major differences between individuals. come to think about it, not only humans, but animals as well.
i can understand if they are all bold, since that's quite logical in evolution.
But there have to be individual differences between aliens i think.
ok, this wasnt really a question, but i'd like to see what you have to say about this
edit: And how's it possible that all aliens are humanoid?
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Thx for answering the questions.
quote:Could you please answer my question. APK already gave an answer i suspected but i am interested in the fact if our foreign races ever discussed this subject with the two of you.Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 01:00 schreef Freeflyer het volgende:
Hi EarthSister,
I am still a bit sceptical about what you say, nonetheless I do have a question for you;
The alien races are trying to make contact with us (inhabitants of planet earth) to make sure we all can live in peace and harmony. Personally i believe that it is impossible to have peace and harmony due to our energy consumption of fossile fuels and in the near future the lack of those.
Our visitors have other sources of energy generation. Why haven't they shared their techniques with us? It would be a major improvement for planet earth and a great step towards a peacefull live.
Many thanks !
quote:I don't know what it was exactly that you saw in the sky. I think what you think, that it was something alien -- an affect of technology probably. I am sure it was put there for you to see it, to help you think the things you think.Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 02:03 schreef sweetgirly het volgende:
Once I saw, on a very normal day, sowell (what is the word in English for this, I forget
Oh, and it was very beautiful. But for a moment, when I look to it and saw it, I was a little shocked. I also for a second thought something of: 'this is it, they're coming of they are here'
quote:I think you are saying that your migraines have stopped since this experience.And later ocurred the thought in my mind that maybe I have something with my brains (yes, to much movies seen maybe). But I also think there's nothing wrong with that. Stronger, I haven't had headaches for over a year now (and I was a migraine-patient), sometimes (read: 1 to 3 times) a little, but that dissapeared very fast when I noticed the headache.
quote:But well, I have a list of these things, all a little strange, but for me somethings not so strange, like I somewhere deep in my mind knew that it (this or that) gonna happened, and it did or it didn't surprise me so much (like maybe a other human shit the chicken out of him), I don't now if you can follow me on this. And somethings I'm so sure of that it was no (t my) imagination.
I think you are saying that sometimes in your mind you know certain things are going to happen ... and sometimes you are so sure of it that when it does happen, you are not surprised, but it would scare another person. Right?
One time I also have seen 3 beings or whatever they are, by my bed. The thing I most wondered of by this, was that I was so tired. In one of the first reactions in this topic somebody also mentioned this, and in my mind occurred the words 'greys' and when I read further you mentioned then the greys. But that's coincidence. I was so tired and exhausted that I thought something of: 'well, let it be then', like I was able to do something about it, not. And I didn't have also the energy for it then.
I only hope that if they were beings (interdimensional beings or whatever
You saw what you think you saw. The affects of the contact in your bedroom made you very tired. The beings made you so tired then for a purpose, so that they could allow you to be aware of them there like that, but so you would not overreact, and so you would go to sleep then. Also other times or kinds of experiences with alien life can make us feel unusually tired. Having contact doesn't always make us tired, and after we are used to the aliens it hardly ever affects us. Initial stress, getting to know them is tiring mentally and physically. Tests, preoccupation, interrupted sleep can make us unusually tired, especially when we do not even know that alien contact is going on.
quote:Yes, the sounds you hear have something to do with some different things that happen. Sometimes the sounds are due to things the aliens are doing. And sometimes the sounds are just the natural affects of what you yourself are doing. I know the exact thing you are talking about. It sounds to me like you were either involved in an exercise like practicing, or you were involved in a test like a measurement of your skills.I also have the question for myself if ears have something to do with it, noises etc. I know in out of body expierences they (can) have a connection with it, is there also a connection in this maybe? Arghhh, when I think of it, it's almost to grazy for words
It was that a overwhelming sound everytime comes when I was lying in my bed (and spikkles and etc..pfff), that occured when I was relaxed lying waiting for sleep to come, then the noises come etc etc. Almost like they (sometimes) tease me with it or something like that ('you musn't fall in sleep'), sometimes that also have occured in my mind. But in another way it also can be that I wás losing myself in a way, meditation or BDE, name it, but then aware of it (that it gonna happened), hard to explain. My thoughts dissapeared or want to dissapear, and then maybe come the noises etc. How harder I tried, it all didn't work, 'it' was to strong. But I'm now gonna stop.
We use our natural abilities to be aware of the aliens. The aliens help us access and use our natural abilities more than we can accomplish on our own. So our natural abilities are turned on high when we are with the aliens. This causes us to be aware of things about ourselves too, that are natural to us, but that we normally never notice. It also makes very quiet, subtle things seem to be suddenly amplified.
For instance, I will show you an example. I will be one of your alien contacts and test you for your awareness of me (sensation of presence). I will ask you to close your eyes (because the aliens are usually invisible). Then I will very gently place my hand on your arm to see if you can feel my hand there. If you cannot feel it (are unaware of me) I will press a little bit harder and then see again if you can feel the affect. I will continue to press harder until you can finally feel my presence. But I must be very careful, because by the time you can feel my hand, the amount of pressure may be too great. Also, at the moment you become aware of the sensation of my presence, it may scare you so much that you will not proceed with getting to know me, and you may even believe that I am trying to hurt you.
It is the same if I wanted to test if you could hear me (telepathy). You would close your eyes (because I am still invisible). I would speak very gently at first, and then a little louder and a little louder until you indicate that you can hear me. But I know that by the time you hear me, it may sound to you like I am yelling at you. The last thing I want to do is scare you away from me, but if we do not discover and practice how to talk to each other, I can't help you understand the things that are happening or why they are happening.
As for going out of body, sometimes on the edge of my sleep I feel myself going out of body, and I hear a very loud noise. I don't know why. It also happens sometimes during meditation which is the same thing as the edge of sleep. I think it is a natural side-affect of holding onto both states of consciousness at once. It is not a warning sign, just an affect. There is no danger. I think it means we are stretching our abilities in some way. Like when our muscles hurt when we are lifting the weights that make us stronger.
I suggest you write all of your special experiences down in a dated journal and keep them, because the things that are happening to you now are going to be very important to your understanding of the things that are going to happen later in your life.
Take your life and everything that happens in it as it comes in time. You are on a unique path. Stay on it. Do not follow other humans. Listen to others to learn all about what they think and why they think those things, but do not follow anyone away from your own path of experiences.
Also learn how to trust your alien contacts. When things get difficult or emotional, take a deep breath, relax your body, clear your mind and make the best decisions you can. If you are totally stuck and can't work something out, don't worry, just write it down and ride it out.
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Another thing I would like to know is if there is an connection between the pyramids in egypt and aliens?
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This object is captured on mars, do you maybe know what it could be?
http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/ufoupdates/listers/monterrey/
quote:You should be. I am not offended, and I am very happy to speak with fine skeptics. We should never go around believing things just because they sound good or hopeful, or are well-spoken.Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 01:00 schreef Freeflyer het volgende:
Hi EarthSister,
I am still a bit sceptical about what you say,
quote:To a race like us, those words may sound euphoric and unrealistic. It is not that we will live in euphoria with them -- unless perhaps "just getting along well" sounds euphoric to you. Only one of the major reasons the alien races are visiting us, and why all races visit each other, is to ensure peace between our worlds. If we are not friendly, we will not have any desire or motivation, or even an agreement, to work together to overcome the differences that come up between us as we sharing the same area of space. If our neighboring races did not make friends with us before we started traveling to the proximity of where they live, we would probably offend them to the point that they had to hurt us just to protect themselves. We need time to be clued into the laws of behavior. Can you imagine if we did out there what we do here on Earth?nonetheless I do have a question for you;
The alien races are trying to make contact with us (inhabitants of planet earth) to make sure we all can live in peace and harmony. Personally i believe that it is impossible to have peace and harmony due to our energy consumption of fossile fuels and in the near future the lack of those.
Allying with our neighboring races is inevitable. But it's happening "now" because of the point we are at in our evolution. We are not doing very well on our own in preserving our world or our race, and we are in need of some assistance. Many humans on Earth are asking the advanced races for it -- the alien races are not here uninvited. All advanced races help each other. It's our turn to move up. We are (should be) mature enough to make our entrance into the network.
quote:What is it that makes you assume that they have not offered our leaders help with our energy crisis's? Our current leaders don't want that help yet, because they will lose too much of the money and power they currently run our world systems on. Anyway, it won't be an easy switch. However, it has got to be done.Our visitors have other sources of energy generation. Why haven't they shared their techniques with us? It would be a major improvement for planet earth and a great step towards a peacefull live.
quote:Good question. Yes, they compete with each other on their own worlds and in some ways with other worlds. I do not know specifically what events they compete in with each other. Maybe they race their space ships, lol. Our discussions about the get-togethers focused on galactic fairs, where the beings of all area races can come to see and show off their unique abilities and technologies. There is great entertainment and fun, as well as sharing of knowledge and appreciation.Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 02:47 schreef APK het volgende:
I've got another question, it might sound really stupid, but....
Are they involved in sports?
You know, like we have the Olympics for earhtlings.
Do they compete against other races from different planets?
Getting the people together is the way to foster good relationships between worlds, make personal friendships and celebrate the specialties of neighboring life forms.
The Olympics is what my alien friends likened it to when they described it, and also trade shows and expositions.
quote:I mean FBI. I have not been told if any of the people who bothered us were NSA. But maybe FBI handled NSA fieldwork.Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 06:42 schreef DrWolffenstein het volgende:
Do you mean the NSA, FBI or what? And what kind of questions do you have to awnser?
Fourteen years ago, our dealings with the FBI were offensive and defensive. They were offensive and we were defensive. A lot of things have changed in fortune years, and now they just try to measure our knowledge, and use us to get information they need about the alien races. Jack and I are willing to go-between, but we work with the aliens, not with the FBI.
The FBI wants to know things like the number of races visiting Earth, what kind of technologies they posses, what their intentions are, how their organization runs, who runs it, and what Jack's and my relationship and positions are with the aliens. We talk about the whys, like the questions I answer here in the forum, and we talk about what the future may hold.
The US government and the organization of visiting races has opened talks but only reached a scanty preliminary point yet. Complete honesty (I don't mean immediate disclosure) in any diplomatic talks is vital, and as you know, humans are generally not used to dealing like that, especially in government politics, or especially in some government's politics.
quote:Thank you, The_Shining!Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 09:46 schreef The_Shining het volgende:
Hi Earthsister, thanks for your efforts & patience.
If you are interested in learning more about the subject, I would like to suggest you look them up in the Tao (Lao Tzu's "Tao te Ching") & buddhist (especially the writings from Nagarjuna) philosophies.
quote:Hai, MorwenOp donderdag 26 augustus 2004 12:24 schreef Morwen het volgende:
Hi Nancy,
What do the aliens think of the Asteroide "Toutatis"? Will it hit earth? And if it does, can they help us change it's course before it hits?
My alien contacts have not said anything to me about Toutatis.
In the past, we have talked about possible asteroids hitting Earth and how the advanced races have technologies to monitor, track and destroy them before they cause particular damage, when it is necessary to do so. They would not tell me if they had ever done that for Earth. But I suspect so. I believe it is within their jurisdiction to take care of that. They are set up here and have personal and professional investments in Earth and humans.
quote:I totaly agree with thatOp vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 00:49 schreef APK het volgende:
Compliments for your dedication to answering all the questions!
Thanx, Nancy, for your answers! It's food for thought
quote:As far as I know, all advanced races look very much alike within their races, even males and females. All of the ones I have met do, some more than others. Some have quite slight differences in appearance person to person, but it is the sensation of their presence that we recognize them as individuals by. This has not been explained to me outright by the aliens, but I have thought about it a great deal. (I think they like to make me sweat with mental exercise.)Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 12:54 schreef P8 het volgende:
Why do you/everyone think the aliens look all the same. for example, somewhere in this topic you were asked whether you knew that kind of reptilian looking alien or not. You said you didnt. But why should they all look the same. we humans, are all unique in apperance. there are major differences between individuals. come to think about it, not only humans, but animals as well.
i can understand if they are all bold, since that's quite logical in evolution.
But there have to be individual differences between aliens i think.
Consider that they used to be much more different in appearance within their races, like we are. What do you think might happen to bring a race all together closer and closer to where it looks very much alike each member? I think we are mixing our race country to country, for one thing, and that could do it over evolutional time. And I think we are going to start weeding out diseases and disorders from our race biogenetically also, which will cut right to our genes. I think all of these affects "over great evolutional time" will funnel our genetics into a refinement of longevity and quality of health.
I feel I know in my heart that interracial families between countries is a good thing for Earth. I do not have a firm grasp on what is right or wrong about genetic manipulation for humans. I think that any problems are more in "methods" than in the genetic isolation of diseases. We humans will have a lot to work out about all that.
quote:We are all the same "kind" as people. We all somehow originally came from the same source. In that we are people, we (our DNA) are building the same, basic people shape. In some various ways, all new races of people come from existing races of people. We are all related from the very root of life.And how's it possible that all aliens are humanoid?
If you want, maybe we humans on Earth really were created "in the image of God" and if so, then all of God's children in all of God's Universes were created in the image of God. That's what I think.
We humans on Earth are one of the newest, youngest races anywhere.
quote:Thank you, iteejer. Ignorance is bliss.Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 21:18 schreef iteejer het volgende:
I removed some offtopic and idiotic reactions. Please dont start fights and arguments here... Also I would like to ask to post here in the english language, that way we can be sure that our guest Nancy can read every word
quote:Hai, AuroraOp donderdag 26 augustus 2004 22:29 schreef Aurora025 het volgende:
Hi Nancy, maybe this question was asked before, but what about the dark side of our moon. Are there alien bases?? I've heard this quite a lot.
There are no bases on the moon at all. There is a dock, though. Sometimes our visiting races park their larger crafts behind there, off the back of the moon (not "on" the moon) because the moon offers some resistance to radar and other human tracing.
I do not recall if I was told that there IS hardware that could be seen (for the dock) or that there is NO hardware that could be seen back there. I have it written down but it would take me a very long time to find it. If Jack or I recall it clearly, I will tell you.
quote:It is possible that an alien craft could make ticking noises. The different races have all different crafts and technologies. They operate on as many different principles and energies. I have never heard a ticking craft, but what I have seen and heard is so diverse that I would not rule out any ticking.Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 22:40 schreef Aurora025 het volgende:
Is it possible that aliens or aliencrafts make ticking noises . A few years ago I saw strange objects in Germany. As I saw these objects moving through the sky as if there was no gravity, I've heard loud ticking noises. One object had the shape of a cone and it was blue of color. We could see the objects for several minutes. I always thought these objects were some kind of military topsecret crafts or something like that.
I am sure that our governments have secret crafts that mimic alien crafts to some degree. But I do not know what that degree is.
quote:Yes, there is. Alien races built the original pyramids. They worked in conjunction with the pyramids on Mars and those somewhere else in our solar system ( I don't know where ) to help stabilize the planets from wobbling. The aliens told me that. I assume that the Egyptians copied the originals. I have not studied them to know the differences.Another thing I would like to know is if there is an connection between the pyramids in egypt and aliens?
It is staggering how fasinated the illuminati is with pyramids. I think there has to be a reason for it.
quote:This picture is fake. But all the advanced races can "fly" without a craft. They do it by technology and natural abilities. At least, that is what the affect appears to be to us.Op donderdag 26 augustus 2004 23:01 schreef Aurora025 het volgende:
This was an alien, floating through the trees, which a mexican police officer saw when driving in his car, do you know Nancy about aliens which can fly without a craft?
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quote:I don't know what that object could be. We will have to ask the Martians one day, our closest neighbors in space. They live inside of their planet. They used to live outside, but an accident destroyed the surface atmosphere. They have lived inside ever since.This object is captured on mars, do you maybe know what it could be?
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http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/ufoupdates/listers/monterrey/
quote:Yes and no, but mostly no. We did it ourselves naturally. Increases in technology are exponential.Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 00:10 schreef Aurora025 het volgende:
What I also found strange is that mankind had an explosive technology grow, which started about 2 centuries ago. For hundreds of years there was nothing and there we had so much technology in a very short period. Did the aliens helped us with that??
Otherwise, the alien races routinely give their individual human contacts ideas. But those individuals do all the research and work of discovery and pushing through and making any changes they may effect themselves.
Otherwise again, one alien race who was being high-pressure blackmailed by government handed over some nonviolent technologies while biding time for the intervention of the further advanced races. (There is a lot more to this which I will go into another time, not that I understand it all.)
quote:Thank you very much, and to everyone for having me. Your pleasure is mine.APK, Aurora and Morwen
[quote]APK: Compliments for your dedication to answering all the questions!
Aurora025: Yes, compliments from me too
Morwen: I totaly agree with that Thanx, Nancy, for your answers! It's food for thought
well i dont like people just asking everything but i'll join them for once
what can you tell about the following
mexico DoD ufo event
abductions / implants
OOparts
i implied what do you feel about .. since i did some research
quote:If there is any connection, it is outside of what I know and understand.Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 01:45 schreef Aurora025 het volgende:
And there is really no connection between the illuminati with its pyramid symbol and an alienrace?
It is staggering how fasinated the illuminati is with pyramids. I think there has to be a reason for it.
What I understand is that people connect things all of the time in their minds, regardless of what is actual. Also propaganda depends on the use of threads of truth to lead the people into deception. The deceptions are discovered by the people which discredits the very truth.
Call it an information sandwich. When you taste something bad, you spit it all out.
quote:I don't know what event you mean.Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 02:26 schreef coz het volgende:
what can you tell about the following
mexico DoD ufo event
quote:There are no abductions. There used to be some races abducting (unauthorized use) and taking advantage of some humans. That use was rare and perpetrated by a few particular alien races who have since been corrected by the organization of visiting races. Some races were permanently dismissed from visiting our world.abductions / implants
The word "abduction" is routinely repeated synonymously with "contact" when it comes to the aliens, and to most humans there is little distinction.
No humans are abducted by any alien races, but any contact may seem like a kind of abduction to a human going through it who is unaware or misinformed about the alien races or how they got onto their crafts, especially if they cannot communicate or do not even think to try. Some of the alien races are so scary-looking you would faint. If you ever heard any alien monster stories before you found yourself there, just forget it. And forget the aliens ever coming back to see you again once you decide to fight them.
All humans who have permanent ongoing alien contact have various implants put into their bodies at periodical times by their alien contacts. The implants are tiny computers which monitor vitals and effects in the body. They do the study of a hospital from a distance.
Implanted devices are not tracking devices. Your alien contacts always know where you are. You could run, but you could not hide anywhere from them. haha.
quote:I don't know what OOparts are.OOparts
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Everyone: I am breaking for the night. I think I almost caught up
I apologize if I missed anybody's questions. If so, please remind me again.
See you tomorrow. Goodnight.
[ Bericht 12% gewijzigd door EarthSister op 27-08-2004 03:07:47 ]
First a few 'simple' questions:
What exactly is done to get this whole diplomatic relationship with earth going?
How should I picture this organisation? are 3 aliens working on the administration, are 10 others writing manuals/books/tutorials for humans so we know what to after the aliens have revealed themselfs? What work has been designated for you to do? Can you tell us about your average workday when you are working on the project and how other aliens are handling their jobs?
What goals do aliens have in life? what is their drive? or can even the highest of evolved aliens be seen as lifeforms that like humans enjoy simple pleasures and follow their dreams and hopes?
Onto the heavy stuff:
About consciousness: You have talked lots about how there are these different states of consciousness and how communication with aliens is mainly "spiritual" and sometimes physical. I have some questions on this subject: why wouldnt we humans experience consciousness in its fullest, as in all states at once? what blocks?
I think about the phenomena of consciousness a lot in and try to read about it in science papers. Some conclusions i have made are the following:
One could ask oneself, why does consciousness exist at all?
Ok, from the start: It's all evolution and cause and effect, i push someone, he falls over, its as simple as that. An organism like a human would function perfectly without it, all the data needed is already available, "hard coded" into the brain, just like a computer programmed to do things and react to input, you could say the brain is running its human-simulation program, understand? nature is all chaos accidently folding into patterns which make up life as we know it. This theory is widely accepted among scientists.
So conciousness is not nessecarry, but yet there it is, im experiencing. Conclusion: We are just watchers, just experiencing our lives that our bodies are living.
So in the end, this could mean that consciousness is an integral part of the universe and not just some effect made by our brain(stimulated at most). Can you comment on this? have the aliens talked about this? how far is their research on this subject? any conclusions you could share? I believe earth science on this subject is moving into this direction.
I agree that there has to be a connection between everything(the physical, consciousness and whatnot) or one wouldnt know about the another and our consciousness could not be experiencing our lives since it's physical. I believe our view and definition of the physical world should be altered, it should explain and give us the connection between the different states.
So in the end your following claim could pose true:
""The physical is what we are well aware of. The other three are spiritual states together. (but the physical is spiritual also, and the spiritual is in some ways physical also)""
What is it you mean by saying "spiritual experience"? What is "spiritual" anyway? I think the word has been abused very heavily, everyone seems to have its own definition. Could you clear this up by giving the aliens' definition/explanation of it?
About god: I am not a religious person, I'm agnostic (those who just dont know). How is god pictured? (dont tell me its an old man with a long white beard) Is it something physical? or pure consciousness? or some natural force? .... ?
Is god believed to be a natural occurence in nature/the universe? Can I ask what was before god? or am I dealing with false presumptions? please enlighten me if you can.
A follow up on the questions about god:
Do aliens have an answer on this?: why is there 'something' rather then 'nothing' ?
Do you think humans can add to the research on these fields?
Again, thank you for your time answering all these question.
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i do thank you for the hard work you have put in this.
i just dont like disinformation.
regards.
quote:Did I miss something?Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 06:38 schreef BaajGuardian het volgende:
i know enough earth sister , your cover is gone.
i do thank you for the hard work you have put in this.
i just dont like disinformation.
regards.
ty
quote:This statement can actually be checked within a few years, as we, humans, will deploy some machines on Mars and better yet, soon our astronauts will go to Mars themselves.Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 01:50 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
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I don't know what that object could be. We will have to ask the Martians one day, our closest neighbors in space. They live inside of their planet. They used to live outside, but an accident destroyed the surface atmosphere. They have lived inside ever since...
So within a few years we will defenately know if you are telling the truth about this.
If you didn't tell the truth, well, you kept alot of people busy
quote:the mexican department of defence had a sighting, on radar and on FLIR (but not in natural light or visible for the crew).Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 02:54 schreef EarthSister het volgende:
Hai, coz
I don't know what event you mean.
one of the peoples thought i'd be good to get it out in the open instead of the 'round archive'
sighting 5th march, mussain had it 20th april , press conference 11th may. [in my signature click poll2,though its dutch, there are a lot of quoted texts, images,some links, including one to 30 minutes FLIR tape] .. though the press did release the story often accompanied with ,"mexico had more sightings and most turned out fake" (why compare public sightings with military sightings) and worse speculations (press should only report (preferably two sides..but thats a different topic), not express any opinion about it, _ever_) .. the press also reported a few of the statements that could explain it (ranging from balloons,ball lightning to a oilfield.. ) wich are all nice statements , but most are made as "it _IS_ that , and then it cannot be aliens" (both by the scientist as the press) which of course is bullocks because the statements are possibilities
quote:thanks for the response[snip]
quote:out of place objects/artefacts.. milions of yrs old gold chains found in at least 2 occasions.. embedded in a chunk of coal (in 1860 and 1920).. (but there are loads of different ooparts) another example is 100.000 years old items most composed out of 3 metals .. one metal component having a melting point of 3600 degrees C .. one item is shaped in a perfect spiral/screw shape .. and the top reason why stone age ppl couldn't have made it (besides the perfect shape and the melting point) is its size 2.54 nanometer (or 1/10000th inch )I don't know what OOparts are.
but as i said there are more
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no offence but IMHO this should be common knowledge for any ufologist , let alone a representative of aliens .. (a theorie of the ooparts is off course our friends who have been here for millions of years) but then again, all of the ooparts never got the attention it deserved either .. and there are too much sightings every day to keep track off, but the mexico case did get (somewhat) world news (before it got debunked and ignored), care to comment ?
------ ( kind request to al the sceptics not to throw this around as reason not to believe earthsister because its very easy never to have heard of those things, or find it insignificant/outdated as you all do too
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quote:Even i can answer this one, no, they don't work that wayOp vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 11:02 schreef displission het volgende:
Do u have a picture from u with the aliens? or maybe a movie? Share please what is a real movie link please..??
. quote:Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 11:13 schreef jogy het volgende:
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Even i can answer this one, no, they don't work that way
*chuckle*quote:Nope, that's not what i'm saying, i mean that she already said that she doesn't have any proof of that kind because they don't work that way.Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 11:34 schreef displission het volgende:
en daarmee bedoel je dat je er geen zak van geloofd?
[translate: and with that you mean that you don't believe anything that she says? ]
I am sceptical about what she's saying but i'm not dismissing the possibility that she's telling the truth.
quote:Waar heeft ze het fout volgens jou? wat is er gezegd om dit te denken?Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 06:38 schreef BaajGuardian het volgende:
i know enough earth sister , your cover is gone.
i do thank you for the hard work you have put in this.
i just dont like disinformation.
regards.
quote:Ik ben verbaasd over je reactie, bg. Kun je uitleggen waarom je dit zegt?Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 06:38 schreef BaajGuardian het volgende:
i know enough earth sister , your cover is gone.
i do thank you for the hard work you have put in this.
i just dont like disinformation.
regards.
I am very suprised, baajguardian. Can explain why you post in this way?
quote:well i cant talk for BG, but i know he knows a lot about theories and facts including illuminaty OOparts and mexican ufo event. but i'd like to point out to BG a quote of earthsistersOp vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 12:13 schreef NDAsilenced het volgende:
Waar heeft ze het fout volgens jou? wat is er gezegd om dit te denken?
[translation] where did she made a error according to you ? what has been said to think this
quote:she might be informed on a lot, but maybe she doenst know everything too, or received false info on some topics as wellCall it an information sandwich. When you taste something bad, you spit it all out.
personally i know almost for sure earthsister is not a cloneuser who is just making up everything
but thats about the limit, i cant be sure yet if what she claims is all truth and nothing but the truth.
since your website has been online since at least 2000 (im not sure anymore by head but i checked, i think it was '97 actually) i know its not completely made up .. but as i said ,maybe earthsister simple just doesn't know everything
Most people tend not to believe others telling stories different to what they are used to be hearing. Neither do I, to be honest. However, as I, for myself, cannot know the truth from negating the unseen, I would rely on my imagination rather than on things undoubtedly to be known for real. Alien life DOES exist because thinking it doesn't, would go beyond every sensible comprehension of the universe.
I consider your web site thoroughly informative, although lacking physical, scientifically approved evidence. I just think it's too serious and elaborate for being a fantasy of another ufo lunatic.
Good luck,
Ringo
But i came up with a new question (asking questions to a spokeswoman of the aliens, or someone with an incredible amount of fantasy and intelligence, is like a drug for me
)I've heard a few times that water is the source of every life. that and oxigen. Is that true? do all aliens need oxigen and water? Which results in; do all of their homeworlds have a great amount of water en oxigen? And how do they fix the problem within the Counsil about the oxigen percentage in the air. It's nearly impossible all aliens are satisfied with the same air around them.
And do you have anything more to say about martians? what do they look like etc. That's the first thing i find very hard to belief, because if there WAS life on the surface once, there should still be traces about it now. Like ruins etc.
quote:There is, didn't you see the pictures of the piramid-like shapes?Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 13:22 schreef P8 het volgende:
And do you have anything more to say about martians? what do they look like etc. That's the first thing i find very hard to belief, because if there WAS life on the surface once, there should still be traces about it now. Like ruins etc.
quote:i always like it when people say aliens dont exist, i always stare at them a while and then ask them to imagine them not being human and standing on mars.. if they dont get what i mean by then, quitte probably .. so the non-human standing on mars will look up in the sky and see earth (well not quitte but for the picture) , and then ask them to name those people, first response is always , earthlings or humans .. well but you dont know that because in the example you're not a human..Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 13:17 schreef Ringo het volgende:
Alien life DOES exist because thinking it doesn't, would go beyond every sensible comprehension of the universe.
so finally they get the picture .. if you're a nonhuman and floating through space there is a planet called earth and it has 6 bilion aliens .. so there is at least 1 planet with some sort of semi-intelligent life form on it .. ( this may sound stoopidly obvious but you will be surprised how easy people forget that )
and just to give a glimpse of what Ringo means about
quote:well there are a few more then just our milky wayOur Milky Way Galaxy contains as many as 300 billion stars. The average galaxy is thought to contain around 100 billion stars.
Like other spiral galaxies we can view from space, the Milky Way Galaxy is disk-shaped spiral with a central bulge. The diameter of the disk is approximately 100,000 light years; the central bulge is about 16,000 light years.
and the typical .. "well yeah duh we are not alone but its a problem of size"
well maybe those friends found some way to deal with that eons ago
duh
quote:there are species on earth living of chemicals emited from deep-see vulcanic craters in water 100+ degrees.. oxygen would be likely to be a handy element involved with walking living breathing life but not likely a fixed rule .. remember that plants and trees live by making air instead of consuming airOp vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 13:22 schreef P8 het volgende:
about three years ago, i was looking at the sky. and someone i knew was also looking at the sky (dont ask me for the situation, since it was rather bizar
). But it was dark outside and suddenly i saw a strange black object float through the sky. Since it was dark it was very hard to judge te distance of the object. But i think it was flying at about 1500 feet and it was quite big. It was moving with a constant speed all the time in 1 direction. There werent lights attached on it and when i saw the shape a size almost instanly i thought why i wasnt hearing it. It was totally quiet. And he who was laying next to me, saw it too. I didnt put to much attention to it, since that was not needed. i mean, i didnt know what it was back then, i dont know it now, and i probably wont ever know it.quote:yeah i knew that, they use N instead of O. But they produce hell of a lot nitrates, which isnt that nice to oxigen breathing lifeforms. And i dont know why exactly, but lifeforms which use N instead of O, cannot be more intelligent than a plant.Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 13:43 schreef coz het volgende:
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there are species on earth living of chemicals emited from deep-see vulcanic craters in water 100+ degrees.. oxygen would be likely to be a handy element involved with walking living breathing life but not likely a fixed rule .. remember that plants and trees live by making air instead of consuming air
I,ve been following this topic for a while now and i was wondering.
When a big asteroid is coming for our planet. Will they save us?
Greetings
quote:not likely,...they did not save the dinosaurs did they?Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 14:21 schreef Kesum het volgende:
Hi,
I,ve been following this topic for a while now and i was wondering.
When a big asteroid is coming for our planet. Will they save us?
Greetings
quote:Ik have read your verheeltje three times, but i think it slams like a tang on a pig.Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 13:37 schreef coz het volgende:
i always like it when people say aliens dont exist, i always stare at them a while and then ask them to imagine them not being human and standing on mars.. if they dont get what i mean by then, quitte probably .. so the non-human standing on mars will look up in the sky and see earth (well not quitte but for the picture) , and then ask them to name those people, first response is always , earthlings or humans .. well but you dont know that because in the example you're not a human..
Thats your argument for proving alien live excists when someone who says alien live does not excists??
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quote:some of those bipedoids living of O show people the're having less inteligence than a plant too :p (in general not specific towards someone)Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 13:55 schreef P8 het volgende:
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yeah i knew that, they use N instead of O. But they produce hell of a lot nitrates, which isnt that nice to oxigen breathing lifeforms. And i dont know why exactly, but lifeforms which use N instead of O, cannot be more intelligent than a plant.
nvm that ..im just messing .. but
just to say something about the black smokers
there is a complete ecosystem there .. including animals
quote:translation to englishOp vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 14:36 schreef haaahaha het volgende:
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Ik have read your verheeltje three times, but i think it slams like a tang on a pig.
Thats your argument for proving alien live excists when someone who says alien live does not excists??
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I have read your tekst three times,but it still makes no sense to me
is that your argument to prove alien live exists when someone says it doesnt exist
(hi) hahahaa nice to find you here in this topic too .. seriously , i just love you're "i neeeeeed proof" attitude but to give a answerno duh .. not to _proof_ .. _other_ alien life exist, but to give proof its likely _other_ alien life forms exist .. just let go of the idea you're a earthling for one second and in that second think you're looking at earth .. in that one second you cannot see the earthlings as humans too because you havent met them, (work with me) ok so in that second you can see 6billion aliens ight ? on one planet in one solar system in one galaxy in one universe .. then try to grasp the fact in that second there are billions of galaxys ..
isnt it a very slim chance then that there is one planet having life in the entire universe (let alone dimensions
) off course i cant prove there are other populated planets, but there are (billions * billions)2 possible places that might be capable of allowing live as we know it
and i just proved there can also be something as live like we dont know it
who would have imagined (a decade ago) that there are living animals and plants surviving in near vulcanic conditions(chemical wise) in 'unbarable' pressure and unthinkable heat (100+ degrees is in normal pressure boiling water remember)
besides that you cant prove alien life doesnt exist at all without forgetting the fact thet there are 6 billion individuals living on that one blue 3rd rock from the sun
nice paradox huhquote:She answered that question on the previous page of this topic. I asked her the same question, but specifically about "Toutatis"Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 14:21 schreef Kesum het volgende:
Hi,
I,ve been following this topic for a while now and i was wondering.
When a big asteroid is coming for our planet. Will they save us?
Greetings
quote:Thats a way to explain the meaning of alien lifeforms.Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 15:00 schreef coz het volgende:
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translation to english
I have read your tekst three times,but it still makes no sense to me
is that your argument to prove alien live exists when someone says it doesnt exist
no duh .. not to _proof_ .. _other_ alien life exist, but to give proof its likely _other_ alien life forms exist .. just let go of the idea you're a earthling for one second and in that second think you're looking at earth .. in that one second you cannot see the earthlings as humans too because you havent met them, (work with me) ok so in that second you can see 6billion aliens ight ? on one planet in one solar system in one galaxy in one universe .. then try to grasp the fact in that second there are billions of galaxys ..
But i dont understand why you explain the meaning of alien lifeforms when someone says aliens dont excists.
quote:Do you honestly believe your truth is the only truth?Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 06:38 schreef BaajGuardian het volgende:
i know enough earth sister , your cover is gone.
i do thank you for the hard work you have put in this.
i just dont like disinformation.
regards.
Man you are really ignorant, arrogant and smallminded
.Maybe you could step of your high horse and try to think outside your own little box. Really remarkable that you who tries to pronounce some kind of disclosing truth to the world is so narrowminded that he thinks that his information is the absolute truth and wisdom.
I got news for you. You don't know Jack shit. And Jack just left town.
quote:Bye BaajGuardian. Misstra Know-it-All has spoken. What's your reason for being so firmly negative about the information given? Could you expose your knowledge to the public? Or are we just too ignorant and not allowed to enter the Ivory Tower, as this may affect the mental superiority of its inhabitant?Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 06:38 schreef BaajGuardian het volgende:
i know enough earth sister , your cover is gone.
i do thank you for the hard work you have put in this.
i just dont like disinformation.
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quote:again . i gave a perspective to look beyond the fact there is one inhabited planet, there might be more iinhabited planets, there are in theory quatrillions of possible places to cultivate life ,and each of them has a chance to be inhabitedOp vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 15:22 schreef haaahaha het volgende:
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Thats a way to explain the meaning of alien lifeforms.
But i dont understand why you explain the meaning of alien lifeforms when someone says aliens dont excists.
oh allmighty hahahaa plz prove there is no such thing as aliens
without giving some lame example about jomanda,maria,god,or vanish oxy gel and
without whining that you cant prove it either
i know you can .. just go for it
or stop whining that i cant prove it , i'm giving a perspective not a explanationquote:Hoooow little horsie :")Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 16:30 schreef coz het volgende:
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again . i gave a perspective to look beyond the fact there is one inhabited planet, there might be more iinhabited planets, there are in theory quatrillions of possible places to cultivate life ,and each of them has a chance to be inhabited
oh allmighty hahahaa plz prove there is no such thing as aliens
without giving some lame example about jomanda,maria,god,or vanish oxy gel and
without whining that you cant prove it either
i know you can .. just go for it
He does believe that there is live somewhere else in the universe, he just isn't convinced they are here
. By the way, try and keep the argument in the other topic
. quote:Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 15:59 schreef Havoc het volgende:
I got news for you.Youwe all don't know Jack shit. And Jack just left town.
quote:stand in line guys ..that has only been asked 5 times in total nowOp vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 16:16 schreef Ringo het volgende:
we just too ignorant
and i have given 2cents on it, maybe there both wrong , maybe earthsister is misinformed on some parts too, maybe BG is wrong.. but its his oppinion
why is it that you need to attack BG personal because he personally feels/knows this time it can be false..i dont see you guys do the same with the ones believing it ..
its never good is it .. if he believes it al it aint right ..if he feels something might be wrong its not right
i know you all would like for him to shut up , because he is right most times , and he aint telling love stories, making him a threat to your brain ..ya might actually need to think for yourself
and dont bother trying to attack me on what i say or feel , im not going to continue this little chat on BG here
I've got a question for you, Eathsister!
Why, for the love of [name] did the aliens put us here in the way that they did? why didn't they just put a colony of fully wise and educated beings here? i should think that it would be a lot easier than to put some DNA in a monkey and let it evolve in milions of years or whatever they have done.
I mean, here we are, putting lasers in space and killing eachother. I'll grant you this, we are not boring, that's for sure.. are we some kind of experiment for them, or are we to them what a television is for us? pure entertainment?
That's one thing i can't understand really.
quote:that was a tempered reactionOp vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 16:35 schreef jogy het volgende:
Hoooow little horsie :")
quote:well we both cant talk for him but then he needs to make his statements a bit more clear .. besides .. if he believes aliens exist , there _is_ a possibility 'there here' .. however slim it may beHe does believe that there is live somewhere else in the universe, he just isn't convinced they are here
quote:just got back .. i will .. and have to leave soon again.. well cant have it allBy the way, try and keep the argument in the other topic
i'm trying to get the discussion on mexico going ..ever since may
*hint* but i guess you're refering to perendev
quote:* coz puts finger in airOp vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 16:50 schreef jogy het volgende:
Oe!
"yes coz"
well i heard one of the theorys is for the gold
but i can imagine were very entertaining
quote:Ow, okayOp vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 16:53 schreef coz het volgende:
that was a tempered reaction
quote:True, true, i can't argue with that, he didn't say himself that he believes that there are populated with intelligent life, but he did so in that persconverence-topic.. ow well.well we both cant talk for him but then he needs to make his statements a bit more clear .. besides .. if he believes aliens exist , there _is_ a possibility 'there here' .. however slim it may be
quote:You pretty much bitchslapped everybody that came with their explanation therejust got back .. i will .. and have to leave soon again.. well cant have it all
i'm trying to get the discussion on mexico going ..ever since may
, nice job quote:Neh.but i guess you're refering to perendev
quote:Perhaps they did, the old sages you read in ancient texts, perhaps they created a new species but they were so dumb they killed all the sagesOp vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 16:50 schreef jogy het volgende:
Why, for the love of [name] did the aliens put us here in the way that they did? why didn't they just put a colony of fully wise and educated beings here? i should think that it would be a lot easier than to put some DNA in a monkey and let it evolve in milions of years or whatever they have done.
makes perfect sense!quote:Don't put yourself down. It's not that we are either perfect or (on average) the most loving, peaceful creatures in time but we are intelligent and, regardless of possible future outcomes, always willing to improve our world. Like all children we are thriving on curiosity about the new and the unknown. Our human condition may cause some seemingly endless disasters but, after all, we are not TOO bad.Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 16:50 schreef jogy het volgende:
Why, for the love of [name] did the aliens put us here in the way that they did? why didn't they just put a colony of fully wise and educated beings here? i should think that it would be a lot easier than to put some DNA in a monkey and let it evolve in milions of years or whatever they have done.
I mean, here we are, putting lasers in space and killing eachother. I'll grant you this, we are not boring, that's for sure.. are we some kind of experiment for them, or are we to them what a television is for us? pure entertainment?
That's one thing i can't understand really.
quote:Op vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 17:00 schreef jogy het volgende:
You pretty much bitchslapped everybody that came with their explanation there :'), nice job
.. ty i guess .. i do have a problem .. its now so clear no1 dares to say anything in [POLL] Wat denk jij dat de UFO's in Mexico waren? (2) and i'd loved some discussion about it ps anyone closing this topic must open a new one and link to it in this topic ..just edit the end post with a link to the new so earthsister doesnt have to look .. and the rest for that matter
quote:Maybe some people don't give a fuck, or maybe some people would prefer a 'too little information to form an opinion' optionOp vrijdag 27 augustus 2004 17:14 schreef coz het volgende:
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