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First, I apologize for writing in English. I know this is a Dutch forum, but I'm still learning. I haven't been in the Netherlands long, having come from another country in search of a better future.
I was advised to post my case here because I need advice. The temporary employment agency I came with didn't honor the contract. What was supposed to be a full-time job with my own room turned into odd days for which I haven't even been paid, and they terminated the contract with the excuse that the company didn't need any more staff at that time. Several of us have had the same problem. Some are returning to their countries or looking for something different with the help of family or contacts, but personally, I'm devastated.
I came with nothing, as I was ruined in my country (I'm 28 years old), and here I have nowhere to go and no way to find work. I don't have any contacts here to find out about my labor rights or to file a complaint because I don't think they can do anything about it.
If you know of any charity that provides food or clothing, I would be very grateful. It took me a lot of effort to save up to get here, and this situation has caught me with very few resources.
Obviously, this is real, and I can prove it without any problem. Happy holidays to everyone.
I was advised to post my case here because I need advice. The temporary employment agency I came with didn't honor the contract. What was supposed to be a full-time job with my own room turned into odd days for which I haven't even been paid, and they terminated the contract with the excuse that the company didn't need any more staff at that time. Several of us have had the same problem. Some are returning to their countries or looking for something different with the help of family or contacts, but personally, I'm devastated.
I came with nothing, as I was ruined in my country (I'm 28 years old), and here I have nowhere to go and no way to find work. I don't have any contacts here to find out about my labor rights or to file a complaint because I don't think they can do anything about it.
If you know of any charity that provides food or clothing, I would be very grateful. It took me a lot of effort to save up to get here, and this situation has caught me with very few resources.
Obviously, this is real, and I can prove it without any problem. Happy holidays to everyone.
@Astora33_ I'm sorry to hear you are having such a rough time in the Netherlands, and hope things will be better soon.
Two questions that could help guide you to appropriate resources:
1. Are you a citizen of an EU country?
2. In which Dutch city are you based currently?
Two questions that could help guide you to appropriate resources:
1. Are you a citizen of an EU country?
2. In which Dutch city are you based currently?
Thanks for your time, yes, I have european citizenship, and Im near to Venlo.quote:Op vrijdag 26 december 2025 11:49 schreef Viv het volgende:
@:Astora33_ I'm sorry to hear you are having such a rough time in the Netherlands, and hope things will be better soon.
Two questions that could help guide you to appropriate resources:
1. Are you a citizen of an EU country?
2. In which Dutch city are you based currently?
What did you not understand about this post in your other closed topic:
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I think they can help you better on the link below
https://www.legerdesheils(...)xdM10zIaAufGEALw_wcB
There is no greater joy than be taken for an imbecile by an idiot. (Oscar Wilde)
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It never hurts to get extra advice.quote:
What did you not understand about this post in your other closed topic:
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Also this forum is very inactive; new (temporary) members and dicussions should be welcomed!
So you haven’t been paid despite having worked? That sounds like another disgusting modern slavery company. You could contact the Juridisch Loket, they provide free legal support: https://www.juridischloke(...)r-betaalt-loon-niet/
But he does need evidence that he has actually worked.quote:
So you haven’t been paid despite having worked? That sounds like another disgusting modern slavery company. You could contact the Juridisch Loket, they provide free legal support: https://www.juridischloke(...)r-betaalt-loon-niet/
Leger des Heils in Venlo is a good option, but maybe you also want to seek legal advice about your situation and what your rights are.
https://rechtswinkelvenlo.nl/
https://rechtswinkelvenlo.nl/
An employment contract must have been signed, otherwise the OP wouldn’t have come to the Netherlands in the first place. He should receive a final settlement after the contract has been terminated. But getting legal advice never hurts. I also don’t film myself or anything while I’m working, so I have no idea what evidence I’d have other than a signed contract.quote:
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But he does need evidence that he has actually worked.
Somewhere there should be written which employee has worked where but I'm sure these people are experts in forgery with papers.quote:
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An employment contract must have been signed, otherwise the OP wouldn’t have come to the Netherlands in the first place. He should receive a final settlement after the contract has been terminated. But getting legal advice never hurts. I also don’t film myself or anything while I’m working, so I have no idea what evidence I’d have other than a signed contract.
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An employment contract must have been signed, otherwise the OP wouldn’t have come to the Netherlands in the first place. He should receive a final settlement after the contract has been terminated. But getting legal advice never hurts. I also don’t film myself or anything while I’m working, so I have no idea what evidence I’d have other than a signed contract.
Perhaps the other colleagues that worked for this employer and/or via this employment agency and are in a similar situation? Might be worth contacting the "Juridisch Loket" all together (or at least together with those that are still in the Netherlands).quote:Several of us have had the same problem.
What are you hoping for?
A way to force the employment agency to give you housing and a fulltime job like agreed on in the contract? If so, the contract must be absolutely clear about it.
Would you be willing to go back to your own country again, even though you got ruined there?
Or are you looking for shelter and a possibillity to find different work through a different agency?
In greenhouses they often still are looking for workers; a neighbour of mine who is from Romania and doesn't even speak English has found a job at such a place. Since you most likely aren't forced to stay in Venlo, you could look all over the country for a job.
There are lots of appartements that are full of Polish workers where you perhaps could rent a bed, but you have to share the room with multiple other workers then. You probably do need some money first to get a place to stay; payment in advance of course, unless you can get a similar (untrustworthy?) contract like what you already have.
A way to force the employment agency to give you housing and a fulltime job like agreed on in the contract? If so, the contract must be absolutely clear about it.
Would you be willing to go back to your own country again, even though you got ruined there?
Or are you looking for shelter and a possibillity to find different work through a different agency?
In greenhouses they often still are looking for workers; a neighbour of mine who is from Romania and doesn't even speak English has found a job at such a place. Since you most likely aren't forced to stay in Venlo, you could look all over the country for a job.
There are lots of appartements that are full of Polish workers where you perhaps could rent a bed, but you have to share the room with multiple other workers then. You probably do need some money first to get a place to stay; payment in advance of course, unless you can get a similar (untrustworthy?) contract like what you already have.
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Kick to Werk, Geldzaken, Recht en de Beurs for not having been paid and basically a breach of contract?
For charity you could try FOK!kers helpen FOK!kers or look around for clothing banks, Leger Des Heils or other foundations in the city where you stay now.
If you are homeless, you could for instance start selling homeless newspapers at supermarkets (something what many people don't like to be confronted with but at least it will earn you a bit.)
Going back to your own country might perhaps indeed be the best. How were you ruined there? Financially so you have no money for a trip back and build your life up there again?
Good luck!
If it is money to buy a ticket back to your country your best chance is to go to your local municapality.quote:
Most cities help migrant workers to go back whenever they have lost their job and housing.
If you want legal advice then FHF is not the right subforum. WGR is the best subforum for that.
So what questioms do you want to have answered? @Astora33_
Steun het Kiva Fok! team!
http://www.kiva.org/team/fok
http://www.kiva.org/team/fok
Is there anything you need now urgently that I can help with? I cannot provide accomodation, but I live also close to Venlo so if you are really in need for food, some clothes, or a good conversation let me know!
Germany?quote:Op vrijdag 26 december 2025 11:45 schreef Astora33_ het volgende:
having come from another country in search of a better future.
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Op vrijdag 20 juni 2025 08:15 schreef VEM2012 het volgende:
Misschien moet je juridische discussies gewoon overlaten aan juristen. Want je begrijpt er overduidelijk niets van.
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Op vrijdag 20 juni 2025 08:15 schreef VEM2012 het volgende:
Misschien moet je juridische discussies gewoon overlaten aan juristen. Want je begrijpt er overduidelijk niets van.
I would like to be able to find a job here instead of returning, I have no one in my country or to return to... but in my situation, on the street and without resources, it is very complicated.quote:
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If it is money to buy a ticket back to your country your best chance is to go to your local municapality.
Most cities help migrant workers to go back whenever they have lost their job and housing.
If you want legal advice then FHF is not the right subforum. WGR is the best subforum for that.
So what questioms do you want to have answered? @:Astora33_
It's very unlikely anyone can help you with that. Your best advice is to return anyway and the city of Venlo can help you with that. Call 14077 on monday for that help.quote:
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I would like to be able to find a job here instead of returning, I have no one in my country or to return to... but in my situation, on the street and without resources, it is very complicated.
Steun het Kiva Fok! team!
http://www.kiva.org/team/fok
http://www.kiva.org/team/fok
I don't mean to bother you, but it would be appreciated. I have very few resources and I'm just getting by as best I can. There's nothing I can do if this agency doesn't pay.quote:
Is there anything you need now urgently that I can help with? I cannot provide accomodation, but I live also close to Venlo so if you are really in need for food, some clothes, or a good conversation let me know!
You have no one in the Netherlands neither.?quote:
r_one in WGR / [WGR] Feedback
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Op vrijdag 20 juni 2025 08:15 schreef VEM2012 het volgende:
Misschien moet je juridische discussies gewoon overlaten aan juristen. Want je begrijpt er overduidelijk niets van.
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Op vrijdag 20 juni 2025 08:15 schreef VEM2012 het volgende:
Misschien moet je juridische discussies gewoon overlaten aan juristen. Want je begrijpt er overduidelijk niets van.
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You have no one in the Netherlands neither.
Komop zeg, TS is belazerd en zit daardoor in zwaar weer. Wat aardiger mag ook wel.
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Ik vroeg het me af ... relax zegquote:Komop zeg, TS is belazerd en zit daardoor in zwaar weer. Wat aardiger mag ook wel.
Heb maar even een ? toegevoegd, zo beter?
r_one in WGR / [WGR] Feedback
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Op vrijdag 20 juni 2025 08:15 schreef VEM2012 het volgende:
Misschien moet je juridische discussies gewoon overlaten aan juristen. Want je begrijpt er overduidelijk niets van.
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Op vrijdag 20 juni 2025 08:15 schreef VEM2012 het volgende:
Misschien moet je juridische discussies gewoon overlaten aan juristen. Want je begrijpt er overduidelijk niets van.
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Is there anything you need now urgently that I can help with? I cannot provide accomodation, but I live also close to Venlo so if you are really in need for food, some clothes, or a good conversation let me know!
I can't use private messages yet, send me an email if you want and we can talk (rsmwlf88@gmail.com)quote:
Is there anything you need now urgently that I can help with? I cannot provide accomodation, but I live also close to Venlo so if you are really in need for food, some clothes, or a good conversation let me know!
In a few days time you will be able to send direct or private messages, but I hope that by then you won't need our help anymore of course.quote:
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I can't use private messages yet, send me an email if you want and we can talk (rsmwlf88@gmail.com)
The agency took away my room when they let me go, but another employee is secretly letting me sleep on his sofa in his campsite room. Otherwise, I'd be out on the street. Obviously, I have to get out of this situation as soon as possible because they'll end up catching me...quote:
Do you already have a place to stay for tonight?
Ahhh wow, that is so nice of that employee!quote:
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The agency took away my room when they let me go, but another employee is secretly letting me sleep on his sofa in his campsite room. Otherwise, I'd be out on the street. Obviously, I have to get out of this situation as soon as possible because they'll end up catching me...
But indeed you quickly need something more permanent.
The question is: how?
I guess you don't have any money to pay a month rent in advance for a house or appartment (plus key money or whatever extras they expect).
In tiny villages it is possible to find something relatively quickly; I found a place to stay within a few weeks when I had to sell my house a long time ago.
But for now it is more realistic to look for something similar that was promised to you with that contract, but of course it will have the same dangers.
I think the best option for you is to find an employer/agency who also provides housing.
This one is one of the biggest agencies: https://www.ottoworkforce.eu/home/?lang=en-US
Hopefully it’s temporarily and you get better housing etc. For the money your former employer owed you; maybe a few of you get in contact with a union, like fnv https://www.fnv.nl/
This one is one of the biggest agencies: https://www.ottoworkforce.eu/home/?lang=en-US
Hopefully it’s temporarily and you get better housing etc. For the money your former employer owed you; maybe a few of you get in contact with a union, like fnv https://www.fnv.nl/
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