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Dit lijkt sneller te gaan dan de Epstein lijst.quote:Op maandag 9 december 2024 18:01 schreef ootjekatootje het volgende:
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Een dagboek en een aantal usb sticks…
You have to stop the Q-tip when there's resistance!
Begin jaren '00 gingen die geruchten ook al ja. Alleen nog niet zo wijdverspreid, internet was toen toch minder groot. Dat was iets wat mensen toen deels mee kregen via rap beefs. Zo claimde bv Nas toen al dat Jay van minderjarige vrouwen hield in een van zijn lyrics.quote:
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Gingen die geruchten 24 jaar geleden ook zo sterk rond? Nee toch.
"Pools are perfect for holding water"
Nou het filmpje van R. Kelly die seks had met een minderjarige hadden we op school wel gezien rond 2002, 2003.quote:
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Begin jaren '00 gingen die geruchten ook al ja. Alleen nog niet zo wijdverspreid, internet was toen toch minder groot. Dat was iets wat mensen toen deels mee kregen via rap beefs. Zo claimde bv Nas toen al dat Jay van minderjarige vrouwen hield in een van zijn lyrics.
Criminelen doen criminele dingen, alleen kon deze crimineel goed rappen en heeft hij veel geld. Jeetje zeg.
Omdat hij dikke maatjes is met Diddy, zoiets als 1+1=2. En omdat Diddy veelvuldig te gast was bij Oprah lag het ook in de lijn der verwachting dat de geruchtenstroom rond haar persoon ook wel op gang zou komen.quote:
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Jij had zijn naam verwacht omdat het een donkere rapper is?
De racecard spelen lijkt me wat overbodig in deze, zo moeilijk is het allemaal niet.
Radical islam is the snake in the grass.
Moderate islam is the grass that hides the snake.
Moderate islam is the grass that hides the snake.
Zijn al genoemd, met name Ashton Kutcher wiens naam veelvuldig voorkomt in de geruchtenstroom.quote:
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Jay Z en Diddy waren goede maten, niet alles hoeft om huidskleur te gaan. Als zijn ze daar mee wel geobsedeerd in de VS. Ook Usher en Ashton Kutcher waren goede vrienden van Diddy. Hoeft niet te betekenen dat ze er iets mee te maken hebben. Maar zou ook geen verrassing zijn als die namen genoemd zouden worden.
Persoonlijk ben ik wel benieuwd in hoeverre Lebron James hier allemaal in betrokken is, omdat die nogal een naam heeft als een echte familieman. Als je dan echt de kuise huisvader bent, wat doe je dan op die Diddy feestjes?
Radical islam is the snake in the grass.
Moderate islam is the grass that hides the snake.
Moderate islam is the grass that hides the snake.
Die feesten hadden nogal een reputatie, als je niet besmeurd wil worden, blijf je daar gewoon weg.quote:
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Waarom zou je niet naar een feestje mogen gaan? Niks mis mee toch.
Radical islam is the snake in the grass.
Moderate islam is the grass that hides the snake.
Moderate islam is the grass that hides the snake.
Je moest gewoon zorgen dan je niet bij die afterparty was.quote:
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Die feesten hadden nogal een reputatie, als je niet besmeurd wil worden, blijf je daar gewoon weg.
De rest van de avonden waren een prima kans om jezelf als artiest in de kijker te zetten bij de democratische elite.
Ik ben benieuwd naar de bewijzen. Hoop wel dat iedereen die de handen niet thuis kon houden lekker lang kan brommen.
Bijzonder om te zien hoe wappie conspiracies over 'de elite' der maatschappij steeds meer mainstream gaat.
N'ayez pas peur, Madame, ce ne sont que des gueux
N'ayez pas peur, Madame, ce ne sont que des gueux
Heel veel sambal
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In het Diddy topic had ik al gezegd te twijfelen of ze überhaupt op het feestje is geweest.quote:NBC ontdekte na het interview, waarin de vrouw onherkenbaar in beeld was gebracht, dat er inconsistenties in haar verhaal zaten. Zo kon haar vader zich er niets van herinneren dat hij haar bij het MTV-feestje opgehaald zou hebben. Ook verklaarde zanger Benji Madden helemaal niet bij het muziekevenement te zijn geweest, terwijl de vrouw beweerde daar met hem te hebben gesproken.
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De dame in kwestie schijnt het eea niet helemaal naar waarheid te hebben verteld. Ze geeft toe dat ze zich misschien vergist heeft over bepaalde details. Deze zaak is maar net gestart en is nu al kansloos.
Nu hebben Jayz en zijn advocaten hun peilen gericht op advocaat Buzbee.
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NBC News traveled to Houston to interview the woman, who declined to be identified, at her attorney’s office earlier this week.
“You should always fight for what happened to you,” she said about why she is going public with her accusations now. “You should always advocate for yourself and be a voice for yourself. You should never let what somebody else did ruin or run your life. I just hope I can give others the strength to come forward like I came forward.”
The woman, who is now 38, told NBC News she was living in Rochester, New York, in 2000 and that attending the VMAs was “on my bucket list at 13. It was like, ‘Oh, my gosh,’ one of those things I’ve got to do.” She said she snuck out a window to evade her parents.
A friend drove her to Radio City Music Hall in New York City, she said in the lawsuit. People thronged into viewing areas outside the venue, which was decked out for the awards. Crowds roared when J.Lo arrived. Eminem performed on the street.
She didn’t have a ticket, and said in the suit she watched some of the show on a jumbotron outside. She also started chatting up limo drivers. “I’m trying to get in to try to stay back and get to an after-party and get invited in and meet some celebrities,” she told NBC News.
One limo driver said he worked for Combs and that she “fit what Diddy was looking for,” the suit said, and he told her to return later and he’d take her to an after-party. After about 20 minutes in the limo, she said in the suit, she arrived at a “large white residence with a gated U-shaped driveway.” She said in the suit she signed a document that she didn’t read.
Inside, she told NBC News, “I’m talking to, like, Fred Durst, Benji Madden, about his tattoo, because, you know, about his tattoo that’s ‘The Last Supper,’ because I have a religious background, so it was just something to talk about.”
After accepting a drink from a waitress, she told NBC News: “I started feeling funny. Tried to start looking for a place to lay down.”
She found an empty room with a bed in it, she said in the suit, and soon after, Combs, Carter and a woman entered the room. “You are ready to party!” Combs said, according to the suit.
Both Combs and Carter raped her, she said. “Jay-Z comes over, holds me down. I start trying to push away. He puts his hand over my mouth, tells me to stop it, to cut the sh!t, and then he rapes me like he had me overpowered,” she said.
Afterward, she said in the suit, she managed to flee the house and ran to a gas station.
“I was upset, and the person at the gas station could tell that I was obviously upset, and she let me use the phone. I called my dad because he was the only person I trust at that time. I told him I messed up and I needed a ride home,” she told NBC News. “We rode home in silence. He didn’t ask me what happened. He didn’t ask me what I did or where I was.”
She told NBC News she never told anyone about the alleged assault or wrote it down in a diary. “Even if somebody found out, who was gonna believe me? I mean, it was to the word of two celebrities against mine,” she said.
The years after were hard, she said. “I got severely depressed. I withdrew completely. My grades started slipping,” and she dropped out of school. She experienced homelessness, she said, and at one point suffered a head injury. She and her father also said she was raped later in life.
She now has two children, a son and a daughter. She served less than a year in the Army National Guard and left with the rank of private. She got her high school diploma and “got my Christian counseling certification so that I can help people who have gone through what I’ve gone through,” she said.
She also said she has her applied behavior analysis certification so she can help people with autism, which she says she has. “There are so little resources to moms that don’t have the proper amount of income,” she said.
Reaction was swift in the days since the woman went public with her allegations against Carter. The rapper released a statement calling the claims “idiotic” and “heinous in nature” and sharply criticizing her attorney.
There are some inconsistencies in her story about that night.
Her father told NBC News that he does not recall picking her up after the alleged attack, casting doubt on a key detail in her lawsuit.
According to their address at the time, her father would have driven more than five hours from their home to pick her up.
“I feel like I would remember that, and I don’t,” he said in an interview Thursday. “I have a lot going on, but I mean, that’s something that would definitely stick in my mind.”
The woman’s father, who said he learned of the alleged assault this week, added that he did remember once picking her up in the middle of the night. But, he said, it “was a local drive.”
Asked about her father’s account in a follow-up interview on Friday, the woman said she stood by her claim that he had picked her up and that it’s possible he had misremembered.
“There are a lot of things, and this is stuff that we argue about constantly, something he said or did back in New York around that time period he just doesn’t remember,” she said. “It actually causes a lot of fights sometimes in the household.”
Regarding her father’s recollections, Buzbee told NBC News, “We agree he states he doesn’t remember. ... His daughter explains that he was in no state to remember during that point in time due to personal issues he was having then. We are talking about a time frame more than twenty years ago.”
The woman also told NBC News she spoke with musician Benji Madden at the after-party.
But a representative for Madden confirmed that neither Benji nor his brother Joel attended the 2000 VMAs and that they were on tour in the Midwest at that time. (The woman did not accuse the brothers of any wrongdoing.)
“Honestly, what is the clearest is what happened to me and [the] route that I took to what happened to me. Not all of the faces there are as clear,” the woman said in the Friday follow-up interview. “So I have made some mistakes. I may have made a mistake in identifying.”
The woman also could not provide further information about the after-party she said she attended.
Professional images reviewed by NBC News show Combs and Carter were among the celebrities who attended a VMAs after-party at the Lotus nightclub in New York City. It is not clear what time those images were taken, or if Combs and Carter attended any other after-parties.
The building that housed Lotus, now closed, does not match the description of the house the woman described in the lawsuit and interview.
“I didn’t know exactly where we were going or even how long it took,” the woman said when asked Tuesday where she thought she was taken that night. She added that she had guessed about the length of time the trip had taken in the lawsuit.
Buzbee said, “We have attempted to confirm the correct location. We have never suggested the location was the Lotus club. Our client has been very specific and detailed about the description of the venue she says she was taken to, and she has never stated it was the Lotus Club.”
He added, “We won’t speculate on whether there was an after-after party, because again, she doesn’t know that.”
Also among the woman’s allegations that could not be corroborated is how she made it to New York City that night.
One of her attorneys provided NBC News with the name and birth date of the friend she said drove her, who would have been 20 at the time. That person appears to have since died. NBC News’ attempts to reach the person’s relatives were unsuccessful.
Nu hebben Jayz en zijn advocaten hun peilen gericht op advocaat Buzbee.
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NBC News traveled to Houston to interview the woman, who declined to be identified, at her attorney’s office earlier this week.
“You should always fight for what happened to you,” she said about why she is going public with her accusations now. “You should always advocate for yourself and be a voice for yourself. You should never let what somebody else did ruin or run your life. I just hope I can give others the strength to come forward like I came forward.”
The woman, who is now 38, told NBC News she was living in Rochester, New York, in 2000 and that attending the VMAs was “on my bucket list at 13. It was like, ‘Oh, my gosh,’ one of those things I’ve got to do.” She said she snuck out a window to evade her parents.
A friend drove her to Radio City Music Hall in New York City, she said in the lawsuit. People thronged into viewing areas outside the venue, which was decked out for the awards. Crowds roared when J.Lo arrived. Eminem performed on the street.
She didn’t have a ticket, and said in the suit she watched some of the show on a jumbotron outside. She also started chatting up limo drivers. “I’m trying to get in to try to stay back and get to an after-party and get invited in and meet some celebrities,” she told NBC News.
One limo driver said he worked for Combs and that she “fit what Diddy was looking for,” the suit said, and he told her to return later and he’d take her to an after-party. After about 20 minutes in the limo, she said in the suit, she arrived at a “large white residence with a gated U-shaped driveway.” She said in the suit she signed a document that she didn’t read.
Inside, she told NBC News, “I’m talking to, like, Fred Durst, Benji Madden, about his tattoo, because, you know, about his tattoo that’s ‘The Last Supper,’ because I have a religious background, so it was just something to talk about.”
After accepting a drink from a waitress, she told NBC News: “I started feeling funny. Tried to start looking for a place to lay down.”
She found an empty room with a bed in it, she said in the suit, and soon after, Combs, Carter and a woman entered the room. “You are ready to party!” Combs said, according to the suit.
Both Combs and Carter raped her, she said. “Jay-Z comes over, holds me down. I start trying to push away. He puts his hand over my mouth, tells me to stop it, to cut the sh!t, and then he rapes me like he had me overpowered,” she said.
Afterward, she said in the suit, she managed to flee the house and ran to a gas station.
“I was upset, and the person at the gas station could tell that I was obviously upset, and she let me use the phone. I called my dad because he was the only person I trust at that time. I told him I messed up and I needed a ride home,” she told NBC News. “We rode home in silence. He didn’t ask me what happened. He didn’t ask me what I did or where I was.”
She told NBC News she never told anyone about the alleged assault or wrote it down in a diary. “Even if somebody found out, who was gonna believe me? I mean, it was to the word of two celebrities against mine,” she said.
The years after were hard, she said. “I got severely depressed. I withdrew completely. My grades started slipping,” and she dropped out of school. She experienced homelessness, she said, and at one point suffered a head injury. She and her father also said she was raped later in life.
She now has two children, a son and a daughter. She served less than a year in the Army National Guard and left with the rank of private. She got her high school diploma and “got my Christian counseling certification so that I can help people who have gone through what I’ve gone through,” she said.
She also said she has her applied behavior analysis certification so she can help people with autism, which she says she has. “There are so little resources to moms that don’t have the proper amount of income,” she said.
Reaction was swift in the days since the woman went public with her allegations against Carter. The rapper released a statement calling the claims “idiotic” and “heinous in nature” and sharply criticizing her attorney.
There are some inconsistencies in her story about that night.
Her father told NBC News that he does not recall picking her up after the alleged attack, casting doubt on a key detail in her lawsuit.
According to their address at the time, her father would have driven more than five hours from their home to pick her up.
“I feel like I would remember that, and I don’t,” he said in an interview Thursday. “I have a lot going on, but I mean, that’s something that would definitely stick in my mind.”
The woman’s father, who said he learned of the alleged assault this week, added that he did remember once picking her up in the middle of the night. But, he said, it “was a local drive.”
Asked about her father’s account in a follow-up interview on Friday, the woman said she stood by her claim that he had picked her up and that it’s possible he had misremembered.
“There are a lot of things, and this is stuff that we argue about constantly, something he said or did back in New York around that time period he just doesn’t remember,” she said. “It actually causes a lot of fights sometimes in the household.”
Regarding her father’s recollections, Buzbee told NBC News, “We agree he states he doesn’t remember. ... His daughter explains that he was in no state to remember during that point in time due to personal issues he was having then. We are talking about a time frame more than twenty years ago.”
The woman also told NBC News she spoke with musician Benji Madden at the after-party.
But a representative for Madden confirmed that neither Benji nor his brother Joel attended the 2000 VMAs and that they were on tour in the Midwest at that time. (The woman did not accuse the brothers of any wrongdoing.)
“Honestly, what is the clearest is what happened to me and [the] route that I took to what happened to me. Not all of the faces there are as clear,” the woman said in the Friday follow-up interview. “So I have made some mistakes. I may have made a mistake in identifying.”
The woman also could not provide further information about the after-party she said she attended.
Professional images reviewed by NBC News show Combs and Carter were among the celebrities who attended a VMAs after-party at the Lotus nightclub in New York City. It is not clear what time those images were taken, or if Combs and Carter attended any other after-parties.
The building that housed Lotus, now closed, does not match the description of the house the woman described in the lawsuit and interview.
“I didn’t know exactly where we were going or even how long it took,” the woman said when asked Tuesday where she thought she was taken that night. She added that she had guessed about the length of time the trip had taken in the lawsuit.
Buzbee said, “We have attempted to confirm the correct location. We have never suggested the location was the Lotus club. Our client has been very specific and detailed about the description of the venue she says she was taken to, and she has never stated it was the Lotus Club.”
He added, “We won’t speculate on whether there was an after-after party, because again, she doesn’t know that.”
Also among the woman’s allegations that could not be corroborated is how she made it to New York City that night.
One of her attorneys provided NBC News with the name and birth date of the friend she said drove her, who would have been 20 at the time. That person appears to have since died. NBC News’ attempts to reach the person’s relatives were unsuccessful.
Dat hadden ze al. Ze vinden zijn manier van handelen niet legaal. In november is hij een zaak begonnen.quote:Op zaterdag 14 december 2024 15:31 schreef Moederenkind het volgende:
De dame in kwestie schijnt het eea niet helemaal naar waarheid te hebben verteld. Ze geeft toe dat ze zich misschien vergist heeft over bepaalde details. Deze zaak is maar net gestart en is nu al kansloos.
Nu hebben Jayz en zijn advocaten hun peilen gericht op advocaat Buzbee.
Lekker van die Tony Buzbee. Dat hij elke vrouw die een verhaal heeft wil helpen. Komt de geloofwaardigheid van de echte slachtoffers niet ten goede.
Hoe moeilijk is het om zelf even te checken bij die pa of hij ooit 10 uur in de auto heeft gezeten om z'n dochter op te halen?
Hoe moeilijk is het om zelf even te checken bij die pa of hij ooit 10 uur in de auto heeft gezeten om z'n dochter op te halen?
Haters everywhere but I don't really care.
Dit kun je beter posten op fok.fr!quote:
N'ayez pas peur, Madame, ce ne sont que des gueux
Een verkrachting van een half jaar, een jaar, drie jaar, vijf jaar, tien jaar, twintig jaar geleden, is vrijwel nooit te bewijzen zonder fysiek bewijs of getuigen. Betekent niet dat de beschuldigingen niet waar zijn.quote:
Gezien de reputatie van bepaalde rappers, geef ik het vermeende slachtoffer het voordeel van de twijfel.
[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door Captain_Jack_Sparrow op 14-12-2024 20:52:13 ]
"This is the day you will always remember as the day you almost caught Captain Jack Sparrow".
Grappig. Als Nederlander zou je de spreuk moeten kennen.quote:
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Dit kun je beter posten op fok.fr!
Heel veel sambal
Alleen fysiek bewijs heeft dan m.i. nog waarde. Je geheugen werkt niet als een harde schijf waar je dingen van 24 jaar geleden uit kan halen alsof ze gisteren gebeurd zijn. Je hersenen filteren dingen, veranderen ze. Het is onmogelijk dat je dan nog betrouwbaar details kan opvragen van een bepaald moment, dat is ook al lastig als iets een 1 of 2 jaar geleden was.quote:
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Een verkrachting van een half jaar, een jaar, drie jaar, vijf jaar, tien jaar, twintig jaar geleden, is vrijwel nooit te bewijzen zonder fysiek bewijs of getuigen. Betekent niet dat de beschuldigingen niet waar zijn.
Gezien de reputatie van bepaalde rappers, geef ik het vermeende slachtoffer het voordeel van de twijfel.
Een dag zonder vlees is een dag niet geleefd
Van een verkrachting?quote:
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Alleen fysiek bewijs heeft dan m.i. nog waarde. Je geheugen werkt niet als een harde schijf waar je dingen van 24 jaar geleden uit kan halen alsof ze gisteren gebeurd zijn. Je hersenen filteren dingen, veranderen ze. Het is onmogelijk dat je dan nog betrouwbaar details kan opvragen van een bepaald moment, dat is ook al lastig als iets een 1 of 2 jaar geleden was.
"This is the day you will always remember as the day you almost caught Captain Jack Sparrow".
Niet indereen krijgt Frans op school.quote:
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Grappig. Als Nederlander zou je de spreuk moeten kennen.
Die vader kon zich dat niet herinneren had ik ergens gelezen. Ja, ik moet even zoeken waar.quote:
Lekker van die Tony Buzbee. Dat hij elke vrouw die een verhaal heeft wil helpen. Komt de geloofwaardigheid van de echte slachtoffers niet ten goede.
Hoe moeilijk is het om zelf even te checken bij die pa of hij ooit 10 uur in de auto heeft gezeten om z'n dochter op te halen?
Het is pas echt crisis als het bier op is.
Klopt, maar als NBC dat kan achterhalen dan had Tony 't ook ff kunnen checken bedoelde ik.quote:
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Die vader kon zich dat niet herinneren had ik ergens gelezen. Ja, ik moet even zoeken waar.
Haters everywhere but I don't really care.
https://deadline.com/2024(...)egations-1236203689/
'However, the woman, identified as Jane Doe, maintains that the overall allegations are true despite some of the details not being consistent. One claim she made was that her father picked her up following the alleged assault but her father doesn’t remember that'.
'However, the woman, identified as Jane Doe, maintains that the overall allegations are true despite some of the details not being consistent. One claim she made was that her father picked her up following the alleged assault but her father doesn’t remember that'.
Het is pas echt crisis als het bier op is.
Ja, dat klopt, ja. Dat is best heel stom voor een advocaat.quote:
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Klopt, maar als NBC dat kan achterhalen dan had Tony 't ook ff kunnen checken bedoelde ik.
Het is pas echt crisis als het bier op is.
Hij had niet verwacht dat Jay-Z niet ging betalen. Soms is easy money niet easy.quote:
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Ja, dat klopt, ja. Dat is best heel stom voor een advocaat.
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