Harry Potter-game leidt tot controverse in transgendergemeenschap

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Op vrijdag 10 februari 2023 15:58 schreef theunderdog het volgende:
Maar noem eens concrete voorbeelden dan? ik weet enkel dat ze een paar keer dingen erover heeft gezegd op twitter.

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However, the problem escalated to a political stage. The LGB Alliance successfully campaigned for the removal of LGBTQ workplace group Stonewall from the BBC, hurting not only trans protections but protections for gay, lesbian, and bisexual folks as well. GCF groups helped to fund a UK court case, Tavistock v Bell, that led to the denial of access to puberty blockers and gender-affirming care for trans kids. Rowling and other GCFs have continually campaigned against gender-affirming laws in both the US and the UK if they also protect trans people, such as the Women's Liberation Front (WoLF) sending a brief to the US Supreme Court arguing against workplace protections for trans women, that if removed would also erode workplace protections for all women. Further, several guidelines attempted to be enacted in the US and the UK would require gender certificates, which are often hard to acquire, for trans people to use a public restroom. That would make many trans people feel unwelcome in public spaces, as well as cause many cisgender but more masculine or butch-presenting women to also face the same ire as their transgender counterparts, despite not being the target of the ire.

This rhetoric caused by the echo chamber can become so heightened that it can lead to literal death threats, or worse. In 2018, Australian GCF Shelia Jeffrey described trans women to UK parliament as "parasites," language that frames trans people as subhuman. One gender-critical feminist who was platformed by the BBC, Lily Cade, even went on to call for the lynching of all trans women. The stakes for GCFs have been made so high that they will lash out at anything that appears to support trans people, regardless of the collateral damage that may hurt broader women and LGBTQ rights as well. Rowling herself has also displayed a deep lack of empathy towards trans people; exemplified by her opening a rape-help center in Edinburgh that will exclude trans women from being able to receive help there. While the center argues they did this out of concerns of men taking advantage of this inclusion to gain access to women’s spaces (again framing trans women as predators), this is inspite of the fact that all other rape-help centers in the UK accept trans women, and there have been zero issues with this policy in any of them. It’s also cruelly ignoring that trans women face high rates of sexual assault.

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Op vrijdag 10 februari 2023 16:20 schreef speknek het volgende:

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Maar al was het alleen wat Twitter commentaar. JK Rowling is wat mij betreft vergelijkbaar met Thierry Baudet. Iemand die zelf vast geen Joden heeft geslagen, of Russen informatie gegeven (alhoewel) en waarschijnlijk is hij stiekem zelfs gewoon gevaccineerd. Maar als er een pijpbom door een vaccinatiecentrum vliegt, dan draagt Baudet daar wat mij betreft wel verantwoordelijkheid voor met zijn retoriek.

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Op vrijdag 10 februari 2023 16:22 schreef MoreDakka het volgende:

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Al die mensen die nu lastig gevallen worden en niet kunnen streamen, wiens schuld is dat?

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Op vrijdag 10 februari 2023 16:25 schreef speknek het volgende:

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Degene die daar toe heeft opgeroepen denk ik.

Als er een boegbeeld is in de jarenlange discours die het lastig vallen van streamers support, dan die persoon.

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Op vrijdag 10 februari 2023 16:09 schreef Heph844 het volgende:

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Je bent vooral aan het gokken ja

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According to journalist Gaby Hinsliff, "The Alliance is seen by many in the LGBT sector as a fringe organisation at best, and at worst a hate group."[68] It has been described as a hate group by Pride in London, Pride in Surrey, the LGBT+ Liberal Democrats, the Labour Campaign for Trans Rights, the Independent Workers' Union of Great Britain,[11] barrister Jolyon Maugham, Green Party of England and Wales co-leader Carla Denyer,[69] journalist Owen Jones[70][71][72][73] and Dr Natacha Kennedy, co-chair of the Feminist Gender Equality Network.[74] Broadcaster India Willoughby has described the group as "baddies masquerading as the good guys."[75] The group has also been described as "anti-trans" by the Trades Union Congress and Hope not Hate.[9][10] Paul Roberts OBE, CEO of LGBT Consortium said of LGB Alliance "they exist to oppose free, safe and empowered trans lives".[53][76]

In November 2020, the gay men's magazine Boyz retweeted Twitter posts from the LGB Alliance and responded to criticism by suggesting that people not jump to conclusions about the organisation and instead "hear them out". Companies that advertised in Boyz or stocked the magazine were targeted with threats of boycotts, and at least one venue, the cabaret club Royal Vauxhall Tavern, stopped distributing it. The magazine eventually apologised "for the publicity we have given the LGB Alliance." The Spectator writer Brendan O'Neill wrote a defence of the LGB Alliance after the Boyz controversy, arguing the group was being targeted by left-wing activists who had deprived it of opportunities to raise money by getting it removed from crowdfunding websites and that activists had lobbied to have gay rights activist and LGB Alliance co-founder Allison Bailey investigated by her employers for transphobia.[77]

In December 2020, John Nicolson, Member of Parliament for Ochil and South Perthshire, described the group as "sinister"[2] and said that it was absurd for the BBC to rely on "transphobic groups like the so-called LGB Alliance" to give balance on reports about trans issues, saying "you would never do a report on racism, for example, and call in a racist organisation to say that they don't think black people have a right to equality".[6] In October 2021, Labour Shadow Minister for Women and Equalities Taiwo Owatemi argued that LGB Alliance "should be rejected by all those who believe in equality," saying that LGB Alliance "opposes LGBT+ inclusive education," disregards Gillick competence, and has opposed conversion therapy bans.[78]

The group has been condemned by several MPs, including SNP MP Mhairi Black, Liberal Democrat MP Jamie Stone, and Labour MP Charlotte Nichols.[79][80][81] A statement from the Labour Campaign for Trans Rights group calling LGB Alliance transphobic and trans-exclusionist was signed by two of the three candidates in the 2020 party leadership elections, Rebecca Long-Bailey and Lisa Nandy, as well as candidates for deputy leader Dawn Butler and Angela Rayner, the latter being elected deputy leader.[5][82] In July 2020, the group met with Conservative Minister for Women and Equalities Kemi Badenoch.[83] A number of other Conservative politicians, including MPs Ben Bradley and Jackie Doyle-Price have voiced support for the group.[84][85]

The LGB Alliance has been described as trans-exclusionary in articles published in the journals Metaphilosophy and the Journal of Gender Studies.[7][8] A 2021 article in the International Journal of Sociology listed LGB Alliance among "UK lobby groups [that] are successfully pushing a radical agenda to deny the basic rights of trans people."[86] Mike Homfray of the University of Liverpool has argued that "there is ample evidence that the LGB Alliance, far from respecting the existence of trans people, has as a central aim their isolation and separation from LGB people."[87]

Dame Melanie Dawes, chief executive of Ofcom, responding to a comment from MP John Nicolson asking why "transphobic groups like the so-called LGB Alliance" should appear on BBC programming, said quoting anti-trans pressure groups in order to bring balance "can be extremely inappropriate".[88]

Gary Powell, who participated in the LGB Alliance's pre-launch meetings and was involved in the promotion of its launch, has been criticised for speaking at events organised by the Heritage Foundation and writing for the Witherspoon Institute, both American conservative think tanks which have campaigned against LGBT rights.[89][90] Bev Jackson, one of the founders of the LGB Alliance, has been criticised for saying that "working with the Heritage Foundation is sometimes the only possible course of action" since "the leftwing silence on gender in the US is even worse than in the UK".[91] Malcolm Clark, another Alliance co-founder, has been criticised for saying that he "[doesn't] see the point of LGBT clubs in schools," stating that it would offer "unnecessary encouragement" to predatory teachers.[92] LGB Alliance received criticism after giving controversial conservative social media personality Andy Ngo a press pass to their October 2021 conference and saying that "whatever his other work in the past, his work on the Wi Spa controversy was extraordinary and important."[93]

The former UK Conservative MP Ben Howlett has described how the LGB Alliance and Sex Matters lobbied Conservative Party members of parliament in private: "I think one of the core reasons why issues surrounding trans people are going high up the agenda is that there's a lot of Machiavellian stuff going on behind the scenes".[94]

On 5 November 2021, MP John Nicolson said that the Speaker of the House of Commons had referred "abuse and obsessive behaviour" from the LGB Alliance to the House of Commons security as part of a review following the murder of David Amess. LGB Alliance had previously run a fundraising campaign for itself where it pledged that "make a donation to us IN HIS [Nicholson's] NAME and we will tweet out your message," subsequently tweeting a number of statements attacking Nicolson, including one that called him a "rape-enabling politician".[95] The fundraiser had been removed from the JustGiving and GoFundMe crowdfunding platforms for violating their rules.[96]

In May 2022, the organisation urged the closure of all sex venues for one month, including saunas, leather bars and dark rooms, in response to the 2022 monkeypox outbreak.[97][98]

In November 2022 the group was criticised for excluding the trans victims of the Colorado Springs nightclub shooting in their social media condolences, after which it tweeted: "We stand in solidarity – as LGB people – against all violence and extend our thoughts to ALL the victims of such horror".[74]

In December 2022 Twitch removed the LGB Alliance from its approved list of charities because its 'anti-transgender advocacy' violated the platform's policies against hateful content; over 16,000 people voted for it to be removed.[99][100][101] That same month, it was reported that LGB Alliance had office space at 55 Tufton Street, a building also occupied by several controversial right-wing groups promoting climate change denial and anti-immigration politics.[102] The LGB Alliance denied having links to the groups, stating "the office was chosen because it's handy, flexible, and that it became available at the right time".[103]

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Op vrijdag 10 februari 2023 16:27 schreef MoreDakka het volgende:

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Ok, dus jij en alle andere 'activisten' die constant leugens verspreiden over mevrouw Rowling. Fijn dat je het boetekleed aantrekt

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Op vrijdag 10 februari 2023 15:46 schreef theunderdog het volgende:
Dus even samenvatten: uit recensies blijkt dat het spel flink geld gaat opleveren (want allemaal positief en enthousiast) - slechts een heel klein groepje is aan het klagen - media heeft het over dat kleine groepen - en hier heeft nu ineens iedereen het over dat kleine groepje.

Woke hoeft maar weinig te doen om te winnen he?

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Op vrijdag 10 februari 2023 16:27 schreef speknek het volgende:

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Welke leugens .

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Op vrijdag 10 februari 2023 16:20 schreef speknek het volgende:

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De "paar" dingen die ze er op Twitter over heeft gezegd *zijn* concrete voorbeelden, want ze is duidelijk het boegbeeld van de "gender critical feminists", een beweging die ze naar een groot platform heeft gebracht. Gamespot heeft er een heel aardig artikel over geschreven die je kan lezen als je er echt in geinteresseerd bent:
https://www.gamespot.com/(...)legacy/1100-6501632/

hier een stukje uit dat artikel met wat meer daden dan alleen Twitter commentaar:
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Maar al was het alleen wat Twitter commentaar. JK Rowling is wat mij betreft vergelijkbaar met Thierry Baudet. Iemand die zelf vast geen Joden heeft geslagen, of Russen informatie gegeven (alhoewel) en waarschijnlijk is hij stiekem zelfs gewoon gevaccineerd. Maar als er een pijpbom door een vaccinatiecentrum vliegt, dan draagt Baudet daar wat mij betreft wel verantwoordelijkheid voor met zijn retoriek. Hoeft hij niet per se voor de gevangenis in, maar niemand die mij kan dwingen op hem te stemmen in het stemhokje (nog niet tenminste, zolang hij marginaal blijft). Ik boycott de FvD en ik boycott JK Rowling. Zo moeilijk is dat niet. Ook niet gek verder, ik hoef niet gedwongen die game te kopen.

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Op vrijdag 10 februari 2023 16:29 schreef ludovico het volgende:

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Winnen?

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Op vrijdag 10 februari 2023 16:29 schreef MoreDakka het volgende:

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Dat ze 'haatgroepen' support. Hint: het hebben van een andere mening over praktische zaken is geen haat.

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Daarnaast: denk je dat mensen die verder geen idee hebben waar dit over gaat concluderen dat de 'transgendergemeenschap' gelijk heeft en hun acties zal steunen?

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Op vrijdag 10 februari 2023 16:37 schreef Heph844 het volgende:

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Ik zie echt nul komma nul bewijs voor jouw claim dat deze club verantwoordelijk zou zijn voor geweld tegen trans-mensen. Misschien kun je dat vanuit je expertise nog eens toelichten dan

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According to the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), a hate group's "primary purpose is to promote animosity, hostility, and malice against persons belonging to a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, or ethnicity/national origin which differs from that of the members of the organization."

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Op vrijdag 10 februari 2023 16:37 schreef FlippingCoin het volgende:
Die flikkerclan heeft altijd wat te janken gewoon negeren en uitlachen.

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Op vrijdag 10 februari 2023 16:22 schreef MoreDakka het volgende:

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Al die mensen die nu lastig gevallen worden en niet kunnen streamen, wiens schuld is dat?

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Op vrijdag 10 februari 2023 16:34 schreef speknek het volgende:

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"""praktische zaken"""

Zwarten mogen niet in de wc van blanken is een """praktische zaak"""
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ik wist niet dat dit een overweging was bij mensenrechten.

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Op vrijdag 10 februari 2023 12:52 schreef Straatcommando. het volgende:
Daarnaast is genderdysforie iets wat daadwerkelijk voorkomt maar volgens mij klopt de verhouding helemaal niet, wat zou betekenen dat inderdaad een boel mensen die nu als transgender door het leven gaan dat eigenlijk helemaal niet zijn. En die zorgen weer voor het gigantisch hoge suïcidecijfer.

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Op vrijdag 10 februari 2023 16:45 schreef speknek het volgende:

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Ik tel trouwens op Twitch op het moment 520 livestreams en 365k kijkers van Hogwarts Legacy, dus dat onmogelijk maken zal wel net zo wijdverspreid zijn als de boycott.