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Dat vind je wel een goede vergelijking? Greene die publiekelijk de executie van prominente Democraten propageerde wegens 'verraad' vs Ilhan Omar die haar excuses maakt over een tweet waarvan ze zich niet eens bewust was dat die gezien kon worden als anti-semitisch
Ja. Beide zijn prima redenen om dat soort lui er uit te gooien. Die tweet is echt niet het enige waar zij zich schuldig aan heeft gemaakt trouwens.

Nogmaals, de Republikeinen zijn hypocriet. Hoera, dat is nieuws.
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Nope het verschil is het oproepen tot geweld (van zowel MTG als Gosar) en het gebrek aan zelfreflectie/ spijt daarover waar ze zich schuldig aan maakten. Het is niets anders dan een revanche op de wél terechte vervolgmaatregelen (die ze eik zelf hadden moeten nemen) van Democraten olv Pelosi waar ook Schiff en Swalwell slachtoffer van zijn geworden. Typisch MAGA!

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Following the vote, House Foreign Affairs member Ken Buck, R-Colo., was overheard in an elevator calling it the "stupidest vote in the world." Fellow Rep. Mike Simpson, R-Idaho, agreed and added that all it does is make Omar a "martyr." They both also agreed that it was simply a retaliatory vote in response to Democrats removing certain Republicans from committees in the 117th Congress.

Buck and Simpson urged fellow passengers in the elevator to not let leadership know their thoughts.

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Deze hypocriet leidt nu de House Judiciary Committee die dat al duidelijk heeft gemaakt door te verwachten van Democraten dat ze zich wel houden aan de Huisregels die hij zelf met voeten getreden heeft door te weigeren gehoor te geven aan een subpoena en twee keer weigerde te verschijnen voor de onderzoekscommissie om verantwoording af te leggen over zijn rol in J6:

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On Wednesday, Rep. Jim Jordan, chair of the House Judiciary Committee, gaveled in the first hearing in what he promised will be a crusade against the Biden administration: “We won’t stop until we get the truth to fix the problem for the American people.” The hearing—supposedly about the “border crisis”—had little to do with truth, though, instead going off on wild tangents, highlighting MAGA disinformation, and exploiting human suffering. That was to be expected given the record of the man who led it—one of obstructing investigations, spreading disinformation, and sowing false doubt in the minds of the American people. It confirmed what we knew going into the hearing: Jordan is unfit to serve on the Judiciary Committee, much less lead it.

Jordan is a classic demagogue. When presented with facts or evidence which plainly debunk his position, he doesn’t concede or even attempt to further inquire into those truths. He instead seems content with pretending as though he was never presented with the truth at all, repeating his talking points incessantly without even acknowledging contradictory facts presented to him. This was seen most recently in an appearance on NBC’s Meet the Press, during which Jordan just flat-out ignored his interlocutor, Chuck Todd. Under his leadership, the committee’s aim to “fix” anything is a false premise, as Jordan has made clear he is out to get President Biden and his administration.

Jordan began Wednesday’s opening hearing with the white nationalism–tinged argument that Biden is intentionally working to flood the nation with dangerous undocumented immigrants. “Month after month after month, we have set records for migrants coming into the country, and frankly I think it’s intentional,” Jordan alleged. “It seems deliberate, it seems premeditated, it seems intentional.” This will be Jordan’s mode of oversight from his Judiciary Committee perch, lobbing unfounded allegations. “Make no mistake about it, the Biden administration is carrying out its plan,” he alleged on Wednesday, saying that “crimes committed by illegal alien trespassers and … overwhelmed local resources … are all part of [the] federal government’s plan.” Again, this is not oversight, it is demagoguery.

Jordan, in fact, is a classic example of a member of Congress who has demonstrated contempt for congressional oversight—except when he wants to abuse it for partisan purposes. That is clear from Jordan’s refusal to cooperate with the Jan. 6 House Select Committee’s investigations and, indeed, his own participation in the Trump-led attempted coup on the peaceful transition of power following the 2020 election.

The Jan. 6 committee’s final report describes Jordan as “a significant player” in Trump’s efforts to illegally overturn the 2020 election results. The evidence presented by the committee in their report lays bare how Jordan was “personally involved in the acts and circumstances of January 6th” and why he, along with a handful of other members, “should be questioned in a public forum about their advance knowledge of and role in President Trump’s plan to prevent the peaceful transition of power.”

Jordan, who wants to subpoena and question witnesses in his congressional investigations, himself ignored a congressional subpoena and flat-out refused to be questioned in a congressional investigation about the blatant attacks on our democracy.

Jordan has yet to account publicly for his involvement—he twice failed to appear for deposition testimony before the committee, instead responding via a series of letters setting out a “variety of objections.” In one such letter, Jordan contended that the committee’s request for him to appear was “outside the bounds of any legitimate inquiry, violates core Constitutional principles, and would serve to further erode legislative norms.” This was untrue and represented a series of false excuses to avoid accountability for his actions.

Appearing in response to the request for his testimony would have been the proper action, an action he refused to take, but no doubt expects others to undertake in the hearings he calls.

Beyond his refusal to testify about his own involvement in Jan. 6, Jordan’s general views and actions promote falsehoods and encourage attacks on legitimate institutions. As others have written, Jordan engaged in “a systematic disinformation campaign” of falsehoods about the election processes and institutions he vowed to protect; he was involved in “early post-election messaging strategy” and “participated in numerous post-election meetings in which senior White House officials, Rudolph Giuliani, and others, discussed strategies for challenging the election, chief among them claims that the election had been tainted by fraud”; and he advocated that state legislatures could appoint their own electors, fake electors, a legal theory in contravention of the Constitution and the Electoral Count Act.

But his actions intent on stymieing the transition of power on Jan. 6 were even more sinister. As early as November 2020, Jordan had been having discussions with White House officials about Vice President Mike Pence’s role on Jan. 6. Jordan, along with other Republican members of Congress from the Freedom Caucus, attended a White House meeting on Dec. 21, 2020, in which the plan to have Pence “affect the outcome of the election was disclosed and discussed,” according to the committee report. But Jordan’s involvement went further than merely attending meetings. He led them.

On Jan. 2, 2021, Jordan led a conference call with Trump and other members of Congress where the group “discussed strategies for delaying the January 6th joint session.” The group also “discussed issuing social media posts encouraging President Trump’s supporters to ‘march to the Capitol’ on the 6th.” These events involved nothing less than an effort to steal a presidential election for the first time in our history and helped lead to the insurrectionist attack on the Capitol.

Jordan’s communication with Trump and the White House endured right up until at least the evening of Jan. 6. Jordan himself has acknowledged that he forwarded a message to White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows on Jan. 5, advising that Pence should “call out all the electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all.” He has also admitted that he spoke to Trump “more than once” on Jan. 6, though he has provided inconsistent public statements on the exact number of conversations and has been less forthcoming on what the two spoke about. The Jan. 6 committee report also states that Jordan spoke at least twice with Rudy Giuliani on the evening of Jan 6, prior to the joint session resuming. Details of those conversations remain unknown, but “during that time, Giuliani has testified, he was attempting to reach Members of Congress after the joint session resumed to encourage them to continue objecting to Joe Biden’s electoral votes.”

Allegations about Jordan’s involvement in coverups are not new. Jordan served as an assistant wrestling coach at Ohio State University from 1986 to 1994 at a time when the team physician for OSU athletes was engaged in widespread sexual abuse of OSU student-athletes. An independent OSU investigation released in 2019 found that the physician, Richard Strauss, had sexually abused at least 177 male students during his 20-year tenure as an athletic and student health doctor at OSU.

The OSU report found that 22 coaches confirmed to investigators that they were aware of rumors and/or complaints about Strauss. Several former OSU wrestlers said in on-the-record interviews and in testimony before the Ohio statehouse in 2020 that they had either directly talked to Jordan about the situation or that he should have known about it as it was an “open secret” on the team. In 2019, a former wrestling referee said he reported sexual misconduct involving Strauss directly to Jordan.

Jordan called accusations that he helped cover up sexual abuse “false,” saying: “I never knew about any type of abuse.” Jordan accused one of the wrestlers of having a “vendetta” and, in a 2018 interview with Fox News, suggested the “lies” were “sequenced and choreographed” by “the left.” It’s all part of the Jordan playbook in his congressional role as well: Deflect, distract, and distort reality.

Jordan as a self-professed truth-seeker is an oxymoron, given the Ohio State allegation, his stonewalling of the congressional investigation into Trump’s attempted coup and the attack on the Capitol, and his refusal to comply with a congressional subpoena from the committee.

Unfortunately, Jordan is not only chairing the House Judiciary Committee. As part of his alleged quest to “get the truth,” he is also chairing a new subcommittee, named the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government. This new committee shows every sign of preparing to abuse congressional powers in order to undertake partisan attacks on the Biden administration, intelligence agencies, and law enforcement bodies.

It is Jordan’s responsibility to come fully clean about himself, including his active participation in the greatest attack on our democracy since the Civil War. Until he does, the last thing he should be doing is investigating anyone else.


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“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
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Deze ook 8)7

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“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
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Chinese Ballon gespot!

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Al die commentaren ook :D

Oh het Pentagon komt het volk geruststellen:

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Maar daar zijn ze allemaal WOKE! natuurlijk :+

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MTG heeft gelijk een heel draadje gesponnen :lijstje:

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Ik ben benieuwd of MTG door de (ongetwijfeld factual) briefings die ze als lid van de Oversight Committee krijgt wat realistischer gaat worden in de toekomst. Dan zou haar benoeming daar tenminste nog enig nut hebben maar ik vrees het ergste. Bij Trump werkte dat iig niet. Integendeel ....

Oh ja AOC zit ook in die Committee. Gezellig! *O*

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Wat een triestigheid. Als gevolg van de voortdurende aanvallen van rechtse figuren als Matt Walsh (Daily Wire) en Ben Shapiro (natuurlijk mmv Tucker Carlson) op de behandeling van minderjarigen met gender dysphoria heeft de Gouverneur van Tennessee Bill Lee nu het hele HIV-fonds van $8.3 M van het CDC opgeheven. Het was nl (wettelijk) niet mogelijk om alleen het deel dat naar Planned Parenthood (en het Transgender Task Force) gaat ($235.000) apart op te heffen dus dan maar het hele fonds :')

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"it’s time for the US and its leaders to get smart"
"But before then, SHOOT DOWN THE BALLOON!!"

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Géén kloon van tvlxd!
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https://www.washingtonpos(...)conspiracy-theories/

Waarom Dana Milbank mijn favo columnist is van de WaPo :Y
beter een knipoog dan een blauw oog
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No ma\'am I cannot...
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Die hele fauxrage over die ballon is een afleidingsmanoeuvre van de uitmuntende economische cijfers en dito banengroei die eergisteren door het WH is gecommuniceerd.

Dems, negeer het ballonfiasco en praat nonstop over het echte goede nieuws!
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Chinese Ballon gespot!

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Al die commentaren ook :D

Oh het Pentagon komt het volk geruststellen:

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Maar daar zijn ze allemaal WOKE! natuurlijk :+

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MTG heeft gelijk een heel draadje gesponnen :lijstje:

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Ik ben benieuwd of MTG door de (ongetwijfeld factual) briefings die ze als lid van de Oversight Committee krijgt wat realistischer gaat worden in de toekomst. Dan zou haar benoeming daar tenminste nog enig nut hebben maar ik vrees het ergste. Bij Trump werkte dat iig niet. Integendeel ....

Oh ja AOC zit ook in die Committee. Gezellig! *O*

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That didnt age well.

De ballon is neergeschoten.

https://www.forbes.com/si(...)tes/?sh=39fc61423935

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China heeft toch spionagesatelieten die foto's nemen.
Is het idee dat de ballon betere foto's kan doorsturen ?
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That didnt age well.

De ballon is neergeschoten.

https://www.forbes.com/si(...)tes/?sh=39fc61423935

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Hoe bedoel je? Wat 'didn't age well' :?

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China heeft toch spionagesatelieten die foto's nemen.
Is het idee dat de ballon betere foto's kan doorsturen ?
Tuurlijk heeft China satellieten die alles al gefotografeerd hebben waar ze interesse in hebben. Ik denk niet dat het de bedoeling was dat deze ballon boven de VS terecht kwam. Dat zou dan wel een heel dom ontwerp zijn toch? Maar mss zie ik iets over het hoofd :D

Voor MAGA-rechts is het iig weer een mooie aanleiding om met de meest ondoordachte adviezen te komen, te speculeren over doemscenario's en Biden af te schilderen als niet daadkrachtig genoeg.

Je weet wel die 'Shoot first and think later' - mentaliteit.

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Update: Het zijn volgens het DoD dus wel degelijk spionageballons. Man, man, man wat een domme vertoning! Wie bedenkt nou zoiets? 8)7

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Trump had het natuurlijk ook veel beter gedaan en de ballon al uit de lucht geschoten voor de grens! Oh wacht ... ook onder Trump zijn ze al gespot :D

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But several reports have been published in the past two days that give us a better sense of when spy balloons operated by New Cold War adversaries have sailed into U.S. airspace. Bloomberg News reported on Friday that Chinese balloons flew over the U.S. while President Trump occupied the White House.

"The balloon spotted this week over Montana was not the first time the U.S. has detected Chinese balloons over their territory--with previous incursions occurring during the Trump Administration," Bloomberg reported.

But an unnamed source from the Trump administration insisted to Bloomberg in that same article that it wasn't a big deal.

"One top national security official from the administration of former President Donald Trump said none of the Chinese spy balloons were near sensitive sites or had payloads as large as this one appears to carry," Bloomberg continued.

And if you can't trust an unnamed official who worked for Trump, who can you trust, right?

The Associated Press also has a new report that quotes a defense expert who said that Chinese spy balloons have been detected near sensitive sites in Hawaii, home to a large U.S. military presence, during the past five years.

"Craig Singleton, a senior fellow at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, said Chinese surveillance balloons have been sighted on numerous occasions over the past five years in different parts of the Pacific, including near sensitive U.S. military installations in Hawaii," the Associated Press reported on Saturday.

President Biden has been in office for two years, leaving three years of Trump's presidency in that window of five years.

The Wall Street Journal also independently reported that Chinese spy balloons have flown over the U.S. before, though didn't specify the era.

"China has sent surveillance balloons over the continental U.S. on at least a handful of occasions, U.S. officials said," the Journal reported on Friday.

And all of this still leaves open the possibility that other adversary aircraft have flown over the U.S. during the Trump years, aside from balloons. We still don't know why swarms of drones were flying over Colorado and Nebraska in December 2019 and January 2020. If you'll recall, President Trump was president at that time and we never got an answer to who was behind that.

Trump himself posted a video to Twitter yesterday, rambling about how the University of Pennsylvania might be compromised by Chinese spies, an accusation for which he provided no evidence. Trump, a known liar and continued threat to the safety and security of the United States, also called for a the U.S. government to shoot down the Chinese spy balloon.
Trump gezwets:

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Verklaring DoD:

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Met daaruit:

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Long before the shoot down, U.S. officials took steps to protect against the balloon's collection of sensitive information, mitigating its intelligence value to the Chinese. The senior defense official said the recovery of the balloon will enable U.S. analysts to examine sensitive Chinese equipment. "I would also note that while we took all necessary steps to protect against the PRC surveillance balloon's collection of sensitive information, the surveillance balloon's overflight of U.S. territory was of intelligence value to us," the official said. "I can't go into more detail, but we were able to study and scrutinize the balloon and its equipment, which has been valuable."

The balloon did not pose a military or physical threat. Still its intrusion into American airspace over several days was an unacceptable violation of U.S. sovereignty. The official said Chinese balloons briefly transited the continental United States at least three times during the prior administration.

While Chinese officials admitted that the balloon was theirs, they said it was a runaway weather balloon. "The PRC has claimed publicly that the high-altitude balloon operating above the United States is a weather balloon that was blown off course. This is false," the official said. "This was a PRC surveillance balloon. This surveillance balloon purposely traversed the United States and Canada, and we are confident it was seeking to monitor sensitive military sites."
Pompeo kan zich daar niks van herinneren:

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[ Bericht 18% gewijzigd door Kijkertje op 05-02-2023 06:39:27 ]
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
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Oh ja Biden doet ook helemaal niets aan die hoge kosten van eieren. Gelukkig is McCarthy er nu:

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Die gedragen toon van hem ook .... :D

Hij doet duidelijk zijn best heel gewichtig over te komen :Y

Intussen is MTG vast aan het oefenen:

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[ Bericht 18% gewijzigd door Kijkertje op 07-02-2023 01:52:52 ]
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
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De PR machine voor vp Kamela Harris is begonnen.
Een draadje met haar goede werken om vast naar voren te brengen.

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https://www.washingtonpos(...)conspiracy-theories/

Waarom Dana Milbank mijn favo columnist is van de WaPo :Y
Zoals we ooit in Fok!-jargon plachten te zeggen: hijs leuk! :D (plus een omhoogduimpje voor de tip!)

* brokjespoes ligt inderdaad nogal dubbel hier _O- maar gaat niet citeren(1); lees 't allemaal zelf maar! :P

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(1) al kostte dat in het IRS-verhaal best wel enige moeite
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Vandaag de SOTU. De Republikeinen zijn nog aan het delibereren of ze POTUS daarbij gaan veroordelen over zijn aanpak van de Chinese 'weer'ballon :D

Uitgebreid draadje waarom dat een probleem voor ze is ....

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.... maar wat figuren als MTG natuurlijk juist dolgraag willen in de overtuiging dat ze het beter weten:

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[ Bericht 22% gewijzigd door Kijkertje op 08-02-2023 01:40:34 ]
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
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Gut.... weer een extreemrechtse terreurgroep
Ook trumplovers? Of vinden ze Trump te soft
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Gut.... weer een extreemrechtse terreurgroep
Ook trumplovers? Of vinden ze Trump te soft
Die bestaan niet!

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[ Bericht 16% gewijzigd door Kijkertje op 08-02-2023 00:39:07 ]
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Beloofd is beloofd…wat een tijdsverspilling.
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Republikeinen hebben echt zin in de SOTU:

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“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
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Deze afgevaardigde van Florida in het Huis praat Trump's family separation program goed want anders werden ze seksueel misbruikt:

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“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
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:D

En Biden presteerde alweer boven verwachting. Meesterlijke toespraak *O*

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Hij kreeg het zelfs voor elkaar dat de Republikeinen applaudiserend instemden dat er niet gekort zal worden op Social Security/Medicare :D

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Met deze schreeuwlelijk:



Hannity denkt daar natuurlijk anders over. Met z'n 'fact check' :|W

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[ Bericht 15% gewijzigd door Kijkertje op 08-02-2023 06:40:03 ]
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Oh en er was vooraf nog een woordenwisseling tussen Mitt Romney en George Santos:

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Die hij later zelf toelichtte:

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George Santos' retweet:

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[ Bericht 8% gewijzigd door Kijkertje op 08-02-2023 07:03:04 ]
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