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Formal start of final phase of Afghan pullout by US, NATO

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — The final phase of ending America’s “forever war” in Afghanistan after 20 years formally began Saturday, with the withdrawal of the last U.S. and NATO troops by the end of summer.

President Joe Biden had set May 1 as the official start of the withdrawal of the remaining forces — about 2,500-3,500 U.S. troops and about 7,000 NATO soldiers.

Even before Saturday, the herculean task of packing up had begun.

The military has been taking inventory, deciding what is shipped back to the U.S., what is handed to the Afghan security forces and what is sold as junk in Afghanistan’s markets. In recent weeks, the military has been flying out equipment on massive C-17 cargo planes.

The U.S. is estimated to have spent more than $2 trillion in Afghanistan in the past two decades, according to the Costs of War project at Brown University, which documents the hidden costs of the U.S. military engagement.

Defense department officials and diplomats told The Associated Press the withdrawal has involved closing smaller bases over the last year. They said that since Biden announced the end-of-summer withdrawal date in mid-April, only roughly 60 military personnel had left the country.

The U.S. and its NATO allies went into Afghanistan together on Oct. 7, 2001 to hunt the al-Qaida perpetrators of the 9/11 terrorist attacks who lived under the protection of the country’s Taliban rulers. Two months later, the Taliban had been defeated and al-Qaida fighters and their leader, Osama bin Laden, were on the run.

In his withdrawal announcement last month, Biden said the initial mission was accomplished a decade ago when U.S. Navy SEALS killed bin Laden in his hideout in neighboring Pakistan. Since then, al-Qaida has been degraded, while the terrorist threat has “metastasized” into a global phenomenon that is not contained by keeping thousands of troops in one country, he said.

Until now the U.S. and NATO have received no promises from the Taliban that they won’t attack troops during the pullout. In a response to AP questions, Taliban spokesman Suhail Shaheen said the Taliban leadership was still mulling over its strategy.

The insurgent group continues to accuse Washington of breaching the deal it signed with Biden’s predecessor more than a year ago. In that agreement, the U.S. said it would have all troops out by May 1.

In a statement Saturday, Taliban military spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid said the passing of the May 1 deadline for a complete withdrawal “opened the way for (Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan) mujahidin to take every counteraction it deems appropriate against the occupying forces.”

However, he said fighters on the battlefield will wait for a decision from the leadership before launching any attacks and that decision will be based on “the sovereignty, values and higher interests of the country.”

Violence has spiked in Afghanistan since the February 2020 deal was signed. Peace talks between the Taliban and Afghan government, which were part of the agreement, quickly bogged down. On Friday, a truck bomb in eastern Logar province killed 21 people, many of them police and students.

Afghans have paid the highest price since 2001, with 47,245 civilians killed, according to the Costs of War project. Millions more have been displaced inside Afghanistan or have fled to Pakistan, Iran and Europe.

Afghanistan’s security forces are expected to come under increasing pressure from the Taliban after the withdrawal if no peace agreement is reached in the interim, according to Afghan watchers.

Since the start of the war they have taken heavy losses, with estimates ranging from 66,000 to 69,000 Afghan troops killed. The Afghan military has been battered by corruption. The U.S. and NATO pay $4 billion a year to sustain the force.

Some 300,000 Afghan troops are on the books, although the actual number is believed to be lower. Commanders have been found to inflate the numbers to collect paychecks of so-called “ghost soldiers,” according to the U.S. watchdog monitoring Washington’s spending in Afghanistan.

Last year was the only year U.S. and NATO troops did not suffer a loss. The Defense Department says 2,442 U.S. troops have been killed and 20,666 wounded since 2001. It is estimated that over 3,800 U.S. private security contractors have been killed. The Pentagon does not track their deaths.

The conflict also has killed 1,144 personnel from NATO countries.

The Taliban, meanwhile, are at their strongest since being ousted in 2001. While mapping their gains and territorial holds is difficult, they are believed to hold sway or outright control over nearly half of Afghanistan.

“We are telling the departing Americans ... you fought a meaningless war and paid a cost for that and we also offered huge sacrifices for our liberation,” Shaheen told the AP on Friday.

Striking a more conciliatory tone, he added: “If you ... open a new chapter of helping Afghans in reconstruction and rehabilitation of the country, the Afghans will appreciate that.”

In announcing the departure, Biden said waiting for ideal conditions to leave would consign America to an indefinite stay.

In the Afghan capital and throughout the country, there is a growing fear that chaos will follow the departure of the last foreign troops. After billions of dollars and decades of war, many Afghans wonder at whether it was worth it.
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Einde van een tijdperk.
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Volgens de VN Veiligheidsraad zijn momenteel zo'n 25 terreurgroepen actief in Afghanistan.

Pakistaanse Taliban (Tehrik-e-Taliban "TTP") zweert trouw aan het Islamitisch Emiraat Afghanistan (onder leiding van de Afghaanse Taliban).

Pakistani Taliban’s emir renews allegiance to Afghan Taliban

Noor Wali Mehsud, the emir of Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP, or the Pakistani Taliban), has renewed his oath of allegiance to the Taliban’s Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. Mehsud also celebrates the Taliban’s “historic and blessed victory” in a one-page statement released on the TTP’s social media and website.

Mehsud describes the Taliban’s defeat of the U.S.-backed Afghan government as a “victory” for the “entire Muslim ummah” (or worldwide community of Muslims), adding that “the future of the entire Islamic ummah depends on it.” He “renews” the TTP’s “allegiance to the Islamic Emirate” of Afghanistan, pledging his men “will not spare any sacrifice for the stability and development” of the restored emirate.

Mehsud specifically congratulates the Taliban’s “Emir of the Faithful,” Haibatullah Akhundzada, as well as his deputies, naming Sirajuddin Haqqani (the Islamic Emirate’s deputy emir), Muhammad Yaqub Sahib (another deputy) and the head of the political office, Mullah Baradar.

The TTP’s emir cites the Islamic Emirate’s “great and exemplary perseverance,” saying this led to a victory. “As a result, for twenty years, praise be to Allah, we defeated the great tyrant of modern times [the U.S.] and his slaves and crowned the entire Islamic Ummah and especially the Mujahid and Ghazi Afghan people,” Mehsud writes.

The TTP is closely affiliated with al-Qaeda and has a significant footprint inside Afghanistan. The group also frequently carries out terrorist attacks in neighboring Pakistan.

The TTP’s operations are an example of how the Afghan Taliban lies about the soil under its control. Earlier this week, Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid held his first press conference. Mujahid pledged “to all world countries that no threat will be posed to any country from Afghanistan.” The Taliban has long repeated this claim — even as the TTP and other international terrorist groups continue to operate on Afghan soil.

The Afghan Taliban freed thousands of prisoners as it overran the country. According to jihadi social media accounts, many TTP members were freed. One of them is Faqir Mohammed, a former TTP deputy emir. The TTP’s Umar Media posted the picture of Faqir below, while celebrating his newfound freedom.

https://www.longwarjourna(...)o-afghan-taliban.php
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No, Mr President. Al-Qaeda Is Not ‘Gone’ From Afghanistan.
But the president expressed no concern about al-Qaeda. “​​What interest do we have in Afghanistan at this point, with al-Qaeda gone?” he asked in response to a question. “We went and did the mission. You’ve known my position for a long, long time.” But he’s wrong: Al-Qaeda is not gone.

In fact, in recent days I’ve spoken with several U.S. officials who think “at least hundreds” of al-Qaeda’s men were released during the Taliban’s jailbreaks this year. Some of these terrorists are al-Qaeda bigwigs. Others are lower-level fighters and midlevel operatives.

Most alarming: Multiple “external operatives”—that is, al-Qaeda terrorists responsible for plotting against the West—have been freed.

The al-Qaeda men released by the Taliban will supplement the ranks of those who are already there.

Based on operational claims and other evidence, my FDD colleague Bill Roggio and I have tracked the presence of al-Qaeda and affiliated groups in at least 18 of Afghanistan’s 34 provinces from November 2020 to April 2021.

This evidence is bolstered by official analyses published by the U.S. government and U.N. Security Council.

In June, the U.N. Security Council reported that “[l]arge numbers of al-Qaeda fighters and other foreign extremist elements aligned with the Taliban are located in various parts of Afghanistan.” In addition, a “significant part of the leadership of” al-Qaeda “resides in the Afghanistan and Pakistan border region.” Some of those senior leaders have been killed inside Afghanistan during the past year.
https://vitalinterests.th(...)al-qaeda-is-not-gone

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  zaterdag 21 augustus 2021 @ 19:16:08 #4
367178 Daarnaast
http://www.loser.com
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Jongens dit is zo verkeerd. Zoals in e=mc2 m voor continuteit staat en c voor intensiteit.
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Oorlog...

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De naam Haqqani kwam me zo bekend voor, maar ik weet nu weer waardoor. _O-

https://homeland.fandom.com/wiki/Haissam_Haqqani

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Haissam Haqqani was a former high priority target and Taliban leader. He served as the main antagonist of the fourth season.
  zaterdag 21 augustus 2021 @ 19:29:54 #9
255257 Flow3r
Forever in my life O(+>
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11s.gif Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2021 19:22 schreef Rambolin het volgende:
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Mannen met jurken die elkaar kusjes geven, gaat de goede kant op
  zaterdag 21 augustus 2021 @ 19:44:06 #10
37149 slashdotter3
Arrow to the knee!
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0s.gif Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2021 18:55 schreef Rambolin het volgende:
Volgens de VN Veiligheidsraad zijn momenteel zo'n 25 terreurgroepen actief in Afghanistan.
Oef... Afghanistan wordt de nr1 broedplaats voor international terrorisme.
De Afghaanse vluchtelingenstroom gaat nog jaren voortduren. Hoeveel van die terroristen gaan zich verstoppen in die stroom en dan via Iran > Turkije > Griekenland > Europa hier aanslagen plegen?

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Pakistaanse Taliban (Tehrik-e-Taliban "TTP") zweert trouw aan het Islamitisch Emiraat Afghanistan (onder leiding van de Afghaanse Taliban).
Dus Pakistan is vriendjes met de Afghaanse Taliban maar vijand van de Pakistaanse Taliban.

Wie snapt m nog?

[ Bericht 17% gewijzigd door slashdotter3 op 21-08-2021 20:13:16 ]
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Het onderstaande is niet bevestigd, maar dit is vooral het gevaar voor de mensen bij het vliegveld, als ISIS besluit om de Taliban in verlegenheid te brengen
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Interessante observaties van Harald Doornbos.

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1/ Populair tegenwoordig om in 't Westen te roepen dat "de Islam moet hervormen".

Wie roept dat dan?
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0s.gif Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2021 20:09 schreef luxerobots het volgende:
1/ Populair tegenwoordig om in 't Westen te roepen dat "de Islam moet hervormen".

Wie roept dat dan?
Heel veel mensen in het westen.
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Heel veel mensen in het westen.
Noem er maar eentje.
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0s.gif Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2021 20:12 schreef Scrummie het volgende:

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Heel veel mensen in het westen.
Dan heb je het vast verkeerd verstaan.
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0s.gif Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2021 20:12 schreef luxerobots het volgende:

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Noem er maar eentje.
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Dan heb je het vast verkeerd verstaan.
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Veel leesplezier: https://www.google.com/se(...)en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
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0s.gif Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2021 19:44 schreef slashdotter3 het volgende:
Dus Pakistan is vriendjes met de Afghaanse Taliban maar vijand van de Pakistaanse Taliban.

Wie snapt m nog?
Pakistan wil vooral India uit Afghanistan houden om te voorkomen dat ze vanaf twee kanten worden aangevallen en gebruiken hun relaties met de Afghaanse Taliban om India buiten Afghanistan te houden, terwijl India goede relaties had met de gevallen Afghaanse regering.
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Het is trouwens best nobel om te zeggen dat de islam zich moet hervormen.

Maar ik denk niet dat veel mensen het als serieuze optie zien, niets wijst nu op een vrolijke hervorming binnen de islam.
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Eerste link: een imam
Tweede link: president van Egypte
Derde link: wederom een imam
Vierde link: de katholieke kerk die zich afvraagt of het hervormen van de islam een oplossing is
Vijfde link: openlijk kritisch artikel over hervormingen binnen de islam als antwoord op radicalisme.

Moet ik nog doorgaan? Zelfs voor jouw doen is dit beneden alle niveau.
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Eerste link: een imam
Tweede link: president van Egypte
Derde link: wederom een imam
Vierde link: de katholieke kerk die zich afvraagt of het hervormen van de islam een oplossing is
Vijfde link: openlijk kritisch artikel over hervormingen binnen de islam als antwoord op radicalisme.

Moet ik nog doorgaan? Zelfs voor jouw doen is dit beneden alle niveau.
Het bewijst meer dan je elke gemarginaliseerde mening wel kunt vinden op google.
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0s.gif Op zaterdag 21 augustus 2021 20:21 schreef Scorpie het volgende:

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Eerste link: een imam
Tweede link: president van Egypte
Derde link: wederom een imam
Vierde link: de katholieke kerk die zich afvraagt of het hervormen van de islam een oplossing is
Vijfde link: openlijk kritisch artikel over hervormingen binnen de islam als antwoord op radicalisme.

Moet ik nog doorgaan? Zelfs voor jouw doen is dit beneden alle niveau.
Wat doe je nou moeilijk?

Iemand vraagt zich af wie in het westen wil dat de islam moet hervormen. Die zijn er zat, zie het linkje. Dat jij niet verder komt dan de eerste pagina is niet mijn probleem hoor. En ik zeg ook niet dat je alles zal vinden met die zoekopdracht, het ontkennen dat er de wens is van 'het westen' dat de islam moet hervormen is pure cabaret.
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Interessante observaties van Harald Doornbos.

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Helemaal mee eens wat Doornbos hier zegt! Wij hebben toch vaak het idee dat niet-Westerlingen eigenlijk diep van binnen ook westerse waarden omarmen maar dat er een vernislaagje van een andere cultuur overheen zit. Dat is echter niet zo; het is gewoon een wezenlijk andere cultuur met andere waarden. Maar dat betekent net zo goed dat de multiculturele samenleving ten dode is opgeschreven. Dat betekent dus ook dat 'universele mensenrechten' niet bestaan, de waarden zijn immers niet universeel maar cultureel bepaald. Maar haal dan ook geen hordes niet-westerlingen naar het Westen met het idee dat je ze wel even gaat omturnen naar onze manier van leven.
  zaterdag 21 augustus 2021 @ 20:36:15 #25
323876 michaelmoore
I want to live a hundred years
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Ze noemen de immigranten maar vast Nederlanders in het nieuws , dat scheelt weer discussie
Er gaat niets boven lekker in de zon zitten in de achtertuin met een heel koud glas bier , als je al 72 jaar bent en nog gezond, laat ze maar lachen de sukkels
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