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Op dinsdag 16 juni 2020 10:07 schreef Basp1 het volgende:

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Waarom zou men in eerste instantie dan niet het main event in de 40.000 venue houden.

Eh, ja, goede vraag. Trump-logica. Nee, ik denk dat ze die venue van 20.000 al eerder hadden geboekt, daarna bleek dat de interesse toch wel erg groot is en ze daarna op zoek zijn gegaan naar een tweede venue om mensen naar een beeldscherm te laten kijken.

Een beetje zoals in het voetbal bij een kampioenswedstrijd als je ploeg uitspeelt. Dan kun je "thuis" als fan toch een beetje meegenieten met je favoriet/grote voorbeeld.

Best wel sympathiek van die republikeinen.

Oh, RIP Oklahoma ook enzo.

Overigens, hoe ernstig dit ook klinkt voor ons stervelingen, Oklahoma is nog wel het minste van de problemen. Trump wil daarna ook gaan speechen in andere staten waar het nog veel erger is en er ook nog veel meer stijging is mbt besmettingen: Arizona, Florida, Texas, North Carolina. Staan allemaal wel in top wat betreft stijgers.

[ Bericht 5% gewijzigd door Salina op 16-06-2020 10:57:24 ]

Nog wat nieuws uit de VS. Even snel CNN geopend:

16 friends test positive for coronavirus after an outing at a Florida bar

Coronavirus updates

US leaders "are peddling an alternative reality" on the pandemic, expert says

Dr. Jonathan Reiner, former Vice President Dick Cheney’s cardiologist, said the first wave of the pandemic is still “burning hotly” in large parts of the US, even if the White House doesn’t want you to know about it.

“The administration and the vice president are peddling an alternative reality that just doesn’t jibe with what is truly happening in this country,” Reiner told CNN’s Don Lemon.

Reiner is currently a professor of medicine at George Washington University.

He said some parts of the country did an amazing job beating back the coronavirus, like New York, Massachusetts, and Illinois, where new reported case numbers have fallen. But in the South and Southwest, places like Florida, Texas, and Arizona, “new cases and hospitalizations are increasing dramatically.”

He believes the vice president and President’s choice to hold a rally this weekend is “criminal endangerment” and he criticized the Republican leaders for making appearances without wearing masks.

“The most powerful tool we have to prevent the virus from spreading is social distancing and wearing a mask, but it interferes with the primary motivation for this administration right now, which is to be re-elected, and to be re-elected you have to pretend that we are not in a pandemic, you have to pretend that 120,000 people almost haven’t died, you have to pretend that 40 million people aren’t out of work,” Reiner said. “And the way you do that is by not wearing masks in public, but it has a direct negative consequence on the public health of this country. It’s disgraceful.”

California inmates with 180 days or fewer remaining may be released due to Covid-19

Certain California inmates who have 180 days or fewer to serve on their sentences will be released to help protect staff and other prisoners from the spread of the coronavirus, the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation announced Tuesday.

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Op dinsdag 16 juni 2020 07:59 schreef Frozen-assassin het volgende:
Kunnen of durven de lokale autoriteiten dit niet verbieden dan..

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Op dinsdag 16 juni 2020 08:06 schreef capricia het volgende:
Ik vind dat eigenlijk gewoon misdadig.

Er is wel iets geprobeerd blijkbaar. Niet om het te verbieden, maar wel om er voor te zorgen dat alles volgens de CDC-richtlijnen verloopt. Maar dat is afgewezen door de lokale rechter. Gaat nu naar het State Supreme Court om dat alsnog af te dwingen.

Ze verwachten dat weekend plusminus 200.000 man in Oklahoma. Daarom dus de zoektocht naar een tweede venue.

Judge denies emergency request to stop Trump's Tulsa campaign rally due to coronavirus fears

Judge denies emergency request to stop Trump's Tulsa campaign rally due to coronavirus fears

(CNN) A judge on Tuesday denied an emergency motion to stop President Donald Trump's campaign rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, on Saturday.

The decision came after local lawyers asked the court to block the event unless organizers agreed to take steps to adhere to the administration's own social distancing recommendations to limit the spread of coronavirus. Paul DeMuro, one of the attorneys on the lawsuit trying to block the rally, said that -- despite the emergency motion to block the rally being denied -- the case will head to the state Supreme Court.
"The lawsuit is still intact and moving forward," DeMuro told CNN. "We will continue to fight in the Oklahoma Supreme Court."

Citing Tulsa health department statistics showing that the highest new coronavirus case count occurred this Monday, the lawyers are suing the parent company of the Bank of Oklahoma Center, the venue slated to host the rally, alleging "despite this alarming uptick in COVID-19 infections in Tulsa County, ASM Global plans to bring tens of thousands of people into an enclosed arena in downtown Tulsa for a political rally on June 20, 2020 ... without putting precautions in place to prevent the spread of the virus."

"As currently planned, the Rally will endanger not only the health of the guests in attendance, but the entire Tulsa community and any community to which the guests may afterward travel. If ASM Global moves forward with the Rally without adequate review, planning, training, protective equipment, and safeguards, cases of COVID-19—and the unavoidable attendant deaths—will rise," the petition states.

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DeMuro told CNN that the decision to sue to stop the rally was not political.

"We're not asking to stop the rally. So you need to understand that, first, if Joe Biden, if the Thunder (the NBA team in nearby Oklahoma City), if Garth Brooks was wanting to have a 19,000-person event and this center on Sunday, without abiding by the government mandated CDC guidelines, with respect to mass events, we'd be making the same allegations and filing the same lawsuit," DeMuro said.

"All we're asking, it's very simple: If the President wants to hold a rally here, he needs to abide by the social distancing guidelines of his own (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)."

Trump campaign officials have said that there will be temperature checks upon entry to the arena, and masks and hand sanitizer will be distributed. However, there are no plans to implement social distancing guidelines.

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State and city officials told CNN they are expecting roughly 200,000 people to be in Tulsa for the rally. Since the BOK Center only holds 20,000, the huge amount of interest has lead to the exploration of additional venues for overflow or some sort of second event.

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En dit is ook wel weer een exemplarisch artikel.

Pence ziet de VS aan de winnende hand in de strijd tegen het Coronavirus, selecteert vakkundig om de cijfers heen die het tegendeel bewijzen en geeft de media de schuld van het bang maken van de bevolking voor een tweede golf (wat al dubieus is, aangezien de eerste golf nog hevig woedt daar).

Pence tries to declare coronavirus over as Trump pushes reopening and campaigning

(CNN) Vice President Mike Pence, the leader of the administration's coronavirus task force, is publicly painting a rosy picture of the pandemic through his words and actions amid President Donald Trump's push to reopen the country and resume campaigning.

But despite the administration's efforts to declare the pandemic over, 18 states are currently experiencing an increase in cases. And health officials have implored Americans to heed task force guidelines -- including wearing a mask and social distancing -- to slow the spread, and a key model used by the White House is now projecting more than 200,000 deaths by October.

"We may be done with the pandemic, but the pandemic is not done with us," Dr. Ashish Jha, director of the Harvard Global Health Institute, said during a STAT Conversation on Tuesday.
"It makes sense why so many Americans are feeling like we're done, and they're feeling a certain sense of apathy," he said.
Jha said it boils down to three things.

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Pence makes the case
On Monday, Pence urged governors to take increased testing into account for increased cases. And on Tuesday, he penned an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal claiming there is "no second wave" of coronavirus. Pence also traveled to Iowa Tuesday, where he had lunch at a local restaurant with Republican Gov. Kim Reynolds and made remarks at Winnebago Industries touting US "recovery."

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Pence attributed a rise in US coronavirus cases to an increase in testing during a Monday call with the nation's governors. But those comments came in the context of an extensive conversation between Pence, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar and Dr. Deborah Birx on rising cases that weren't attributed to increased testing.

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Pence also said on the call that there are specific areas where there has been "some increase in cases that are not necessarily accounted for entirely by an increase in testing," pointing to areas in North Carolina, California and Arizona, where, he said, the CDC has redeployed additional personnel.

An official familiar with the work of the task force was more blunt and told CNN that the surge in cases is also due to more infections.
"They just don't want to deal with the reality of it," the official said of Trump, Pence and other top officials. "They're in denial."

And a senior US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention official told CNN that Pence is selectively choosing data to make his point.
"I don't know what his source is on that information, but that's not accurate," the senior CDC official said of Pence's assertion that only a small percentage of places in the US are seeing an uptick in cases. "You can cherry-pick a handful of counties and use that as way to say things are not as bad as they look. But that's not the reality."

The senior CDC official added, "Our data shows that there continues to be spread, particularly in communities of color. It's both higher rates and disproportionate numbers. By state, the numbers are absolutely increasing and they're increasing in states that opened up earlier."
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'Such panic is overblown'
And in the Wall Street Journal, Pence blamed the media for inciting "panic" regarding a second wave of coronavirus.

"In recent days, the media has taken to sounding the alarm bells over a 'second wave' of coronavirus infections. Such panic is overblown. Thanks to the leadership of President Trump and the courage and compassion of the American people, our public health system is far stronger than it was four months ago, and we are winning the fight against the invisible enemy," Pence wrote, citing expanding testing, supply production and medical research.

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This story has been updated with additional reporting Tuesday evening.
CNN's Jim Acosta, Nick Valencia, Maggie Fox and Jamie Gumbrecht contributed to this report.

Ik zag deze in het POL-topic (AMV).

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gregggonsalves twitterde op vrijdag 19-06-2020 om 12:25:21 Like @nataliexdean, I am worried. It's not just rising case counts, it's % of tests positive, rise in hospitalizations. All pointing in wrong direction. And you are entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts on #COVID19. #COVIDExitStrategy @HopkinsMedicine @nytimes https://t.co/y2y4nOpo5j reageer retweet

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Dat Arizona, Texas, Florida en North Carolina behoorlijk slecht gingen, wisten we al. Laten dat nu net 4 staten zijn waar Trump wil gaan rallyen.

Maar ook Oklahoma gaat de laatste tijd relatief gezien erg slecht (wel in veel kleinere getallen dan genoemde staten). Laat dat nu net de staat zijn waar de eerste rally gaat plaatsvinden binnenkort. Ik las dat ze 200.000 man op bezoek verwachten dat weekend.

[ Bericht 6% gewijzigd door Salina op 20-06-2020 14:03:15 ]

Via die Twitter-link kreeg ik ook dit te zien:

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ASlavitt twitterde op vrijdag 19-06-2020 om 15:37:35 “It really does feel like the U.S. has given up.” -European scientist.

https://t.co/A910VQq7mX https://t.co/xl8BuqqJ2n reageer retweet

In countries keeping the coronavirus at bay, experts watch U.S. case numbers with alarm
(Washington Post, 19-6)

As coronavirus cases surge in the U.S. South and West, health experts in countries with falling case numbers are watching with a growing sense of alarm and disbelief, with many wondering why virus-stricken U.S. states continue to reopen and why the advice of scientists is often ignored.

“It really does feel like the U.S. has given up,” said Siouxsie Wiles, an infectious-diseases specialist at the University of Auckland in New Zealand — a country that has confirmed only three new cases over the past three weeks and where citizens have now largely returned to their pre-coronavirus routines.

“I can’t imagine what it must be like having to go to work knowing it’s unsafe,” Wiles said of the U.S.-wide economic reopening. “It’s hard to see how this ends. There are just going to be more and more people infected, and more and more deaths. It’s heartbreaking.”

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Some observers fear the damage will be difficult to reverse. “I’ve always thought of the CDC as a reliable and trusted source of information,” said Wiles, the New Zealand specialist. “Not anymore.”

Ben wel benieuwd hoe nu de situatie is in Arizona trouwens. Er waren wel wat verhalen over eventueel tekort aan ICU-beds en ventilators dacht ik. Verder hebben ze best veel besmettingen voor een staat met relatief niet zo veel inwoners. En een zeer grote stijging de laatste weken. Zal eens op zoek gaan dit weekend naar meer nieuws over de stand van zaken nu.

Even crosspost vanuit COR / Florida: Corona lijkt te veranderen in verkoudheid..

Had het ook bij COR / Florida: Corona lijkt te veranderen in verkoudheid. kunnen plaatsen, maar de artikelen waar ik naar link gaan over meer dan alleen Florida, vandaar.

Toch wel zorgelijke situatie in b.v. Florida, Arizona, Texas, South Carolina, California.

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Op maandag 22 juni 2020 12:52 schreef TheFreshPrince het volgende:
Voorlopig worden er records gebroken qua aantal nieuwe cases per dag.

Het lijkt wel vooral jongeren de betreffen

Afgelopen dagen lijkt er wel een kentering te komen inderdaad. Afgelopen weekend een bericht van CNN dat er een verandering plaatsvindt: waren het eerst meer de ouderen die besmet werden, nu zijn het veel meer den mensen in de 20 en 30 die besmet raken in de zuidelijke staten als Florida, South Carolina, Georgia, etcetera.
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"Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said last week that people under 30 made up a majority of new coronavirus cases in several counties. He said that increase in young infected people could be related to Memorial Day parties, visits to bars or other gatherings.

And in Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis said Friday that the median age was 37 for newly diagnosed coronavirus cases over the last week. In the state, 62% of new cases for the week of June 7 are under 45 years old, he said."

Vraag is waar dat mee te maken heeft. Roekeloosheid, minder hygiëne en afstand? Of, zoals ook wel hypothetisch is gesteld door o.a. gouverneur De Santis, komt het door de vele seizoensarbeiders die nu in Florida werken (watermeloenen plukken) en zich daarna als een lopend vuurtje gaan verspreiden richting South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama e.d. om daarna andere dingen te gaan plukken?

Gouverneur De Santis was er snel bij om de "schuld" voor de toename aan besmettingen deels neer te leggen bij (de arbeidsomstandigheden) van migranten en seizoensarbeiders. Toch niet nadat hij de "schuld" van de toename aan besmettingen legde bij het vermogen om meer te testen (dan voorheen), wat snel door epidemiologen werd afgedaan als onzin. Volgens deze specialisten was er wel degelijk sprake van meer en nieuwe uitbraken, evenals van een toename aan hospitalisaties.
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"The governors of Florida and Texas are among state and national leaders who attribute the increase in cases to more testing and other factors. Epidemiologists argue case numbers should go down with greater testing, because theoretically health officials should be able to trace the cases and slow the spread of the virus.

Health experts, such as Dr. Aileen Marty, often respond that hospitalizations are a sign of a "real increase in cases."

"The reality remains that there are more hospitalizations happening here right now, so we know this is a real increase in cases," Marty, an adviser to the Miami-Dade County mayor and an infectious diseases professor at Florida International University, told CNN's Erin Burnett.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis blamed the surge in cases, in part, on crowded living conditions in migrant families."


https://edition.cnn.com/2(...)governors/index.html

"At a time when Floridians continue to pack bars and restaurants, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis brushed away questions about his culpability in aggressively reopening his state during a press conference this week. In remarks layered with racial overtones, he blamed the surge in cases, in part, on crowded living conditions in migrant families. He said the state would also take a closer look at the spread of the virus among construction workers and day laborers, who he said are "overwhelmingly Hispanic."

Pointing to one outbreak at a watermelon farm in Alachua County and another in a migrant community known as Indiantown in Martin County, DeSantis argued that "the close contact" in those households as well as the work environments of farm laborers are "really providing areas for the virus to thrive."

"Some of these guys -- they go to work in a school bus, and they are all just like packed there like sardines, going across like Palm Beach County or some of these other places, and (there's) all these opportunities to have transmission," DeSantis said Tuesday, adding that some of the workers are "migratory" and that the state's health department is alerting Georgia and Alabama about "what may be coming down the pike."

https://edition.cnn.com/2(...)us-sunday/index.html
"Less than 7% social distancing in one Texas county

The Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission said Sunday it has suspended the permits of 12 bars found to be in violation of the state's Covid-19 reopening protocols.

The commission issued 30-day permit suspensions to bars in Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, Austin and other cities.

In Galveston County, Texas, Dr. Philip Keiser with the local health department told CNN affiliate KPRC they were seeing a lot of infections in young people.
And the age of the people testing positive is trending younger, he told the news station.

"Our average age last week of people that were positive was age 30, the average age of people getting tested was 47," he said.

And those numbers come as many haven't followed guidance issued by health officials urging residents to keep their distance and wear face coverings.

"We have data from some of the cell phone companies that show in Galveston County less than 7% of the people are social distancing," Keiser said.
Galveston County is home to about 342,139 people, according to the US Census Bureau."

https://edition.cnn.com/2(...)y-parties/index.html

Mississippi coronavirus cluster tied to fraternity rush parties

"CNN)Fraternity parties in Mississippi have continued this summer, and as a result Covid-19 cases have too, the state's health officer said Thursday.

Mississippi State Health Officer Dr. Thomas Dobbs announced 381 new cases and five additional deaths in a press conference on Thursday. Quite a few patients have been linked to fraternity rush parties, said Dobbs, also an associate professor at the University of Mississippi medical school in Oxford.

"We recently have identified a cluster of cases and outbreaks in Oxford, Mississippi," Dobbs said. Early information suggests the fraternities have violated state guidelines with the number of people they have gathered at parties, Dobbs said.

Adherence to social distancing over the summer break has been "overwhelmingly disappointing" and has made him extremely concerned about what the fall may have in store.
Dobbs added that there are efforts to try to prepare for a surge of cases in the fall which he said "seems quite likely."

That resurgence is made even more worrisome by the fact that the state's healthcare system is already under stress, Dobbs said. There are 465 hospitalized patients, 159 people in intensive care units and 100 on ventilators in the state, he said.

Large gatherings are a concern for many health experts nationwide as they anticipate another surge in cases.
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Gouverneur Abbott van Texas doet het niet veel beter dan De Santis van Florida. Waar De Santis de schuld legt bij het meer testen en bij de migranten en seizoensarbeiders, is Abbott aan het bekvechten met burgemeesters van de grote steden in Texas die mondkapjes verplicht willen stellen, waar Abbott niet aan wil.

Texas governor battles mayors over mask requirements
Abbott has focused on Texas's ability to handle new cases as hospitalizations reached a new record this week with 2,947 coronavirus patients -- nearly doubling since Memorial Day (when 1,534 hospitalizations were reported), according to the Texas Department of State Health Services dashboard.

In their letter to Abbott, a group of mayors argued that requiring Texans to wear face coverings "could prove to be the most effective way to prevent the transmission of this disease."

"Yet many people in many of our cities are still refusing to wear these face coverings even though these coverings are scientifically proven to help prevent the disease from spreading," the mayors wrote in their letter Tuesday.
"If mayors are given the opportunity to require face coverings, we believe our cities will be ready to help reduce the spread of this disease." The mayors of Houston, San Antonio, Austin, Dallas, Fort Worth, El Paso, Arlington, Plano and Grand Prairie -- a mix of Republicans, Democrats and Independents -- signed on to the letter.

But the governor contends local officials asking for more authority have not imposed penalties and enforcement mechanisms currently available to them if Texans break the rules by participating in large gatherings, for example.

"I make clear on a daily basis around the entire state of Texas that wearing a mask is very important, and local officials send that same message," Abbott said this week. "So all of us have a collective responsibility to educate the public that wearing a mask is the best thing to do. Putting people in jail, however, is the wrong approach."

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Op dinsdag 23 juni 2020 07:45 schreef Basp1 het volgende:
Bars, Strip Clubs and Churches: U.S. Virus Outbreaks Enter Unwieldy Phase
For months, clusters often centered in nursing homes, prisons and food processing plants. With Americans venturing into public more, new types of outbreaks are emerging.

Ben benieuwd of er daar nog lokaal nieuwe lockdowns gaat komen of dat het echt chaos gaat worden daar.

Nou, dat is dus een hele goede en zeer terechte vraag!

De federale overheid had een mooi stappenplan uitgedokterd. De CDC had een eigen "heropeningsplan". En alle staten hebben afzonderlijk als het goed is ook een eigen plan opgesteld met criteria waaraan voldaan dient te worden voor heropening en versoepeling. De meeste staten hebben een soort vier-stappenplan opgesteld, al dan niet op basis van de CDC-richtlijnen en van het CDC-plan.
(het federale stappenplan wordt door iedereen genegeerd volgens mij).

Vraag is nu dus inderdaad - terecht - of de staten waar het nu zo slecht gaat - Florida, Texas, Arizona, South Carolina, eigenlijk te veel om op te noemen - nu zoals hun eigen stappenplan dat eigenlijk voorschrijft inderdaad weer een stap terug gaan doen in hun gefaseerde heropeningsplannen.
Ik ben zeer benieuwd. Voorlopig heb ik daar nog weinig over gelezen eigenlijk; ik heb gisteren al wat over Texas en Florida gelezen en hier vermeld (twee Republikeinse gouverneurs; vervelend om te zeggen, maar dat kan invloed hebben op eventuele keuzes om wel of niet een stap terug te doen).

Misschien ga ik hier vandaan nog wel even onderzoek naar doen. Maar het staat jullie vrij om hetzelfde te doen. Alles wat jullie hierover kunnen vinden, hoef ik niet meer te vermelden. Kan ik me focussen op mijn werk.