[Centraal] Crisis in Syrië en Irak #470

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Op dinsdag 1 januari 2019 14:15 schreef Bilge het volgende:
Het momentum is er nog niet vanaf. De democraten hebben een meerderheid in het Huis van Afgevaardigden behaald. Op 3 januari 2019 begint de nieuwe termijn. Tot aan de presidentsverkiezingen van 2020 zullen zij de Khashoggi-zaak (en meer in het algemeen de banden tussen SA-VS) met hoorzittingen enzo uitmelken. Dit wordt een van de belangrijkste wapenfeiten van de Democraten, omdat ze weten dat Trumps achterban ook geen fan van is van SA, Trump ook persoonlijke zakelijke belangen heeft met SA (belangenverstrengeling?), Trumps schoonzoon mysterieuze relaties onderhoud met o.a. MBS, Mueller zijn onderzoek naar Russische inmenging heeft uitgebreid naar de Golfstaten, en de Khashoggi-zaak veel gruwelijke en ontroerende details bevat die de nieuwsconsument blijft intrigeren. Bovendien heeft Ankara nog niet alle bewijsmiddelen op tafel gelegd.

De Saudi's kunnen deze kwelling voorkomen door een andere kroonprins aan te wijzen en schoon schip te maken. Ik snap niet waarom ze per se MBS willen behouden.

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Op dinsdag 1 januari 2019 10:53 schreef Aloulu het volgende:
Zag gister op rtlZ een programma (Engelse journalist) over Syrische opvangkampen in Turkije.

Ik was echt verbaasd hoe strak die kampen zijn qua infrastructuur en geen vuiltje op de grond. Allemaal soort blokhutten (van steen), netjes geordend, wijk na wijk, afvalcontainers in de grond wordt netjes geleegd door de gemeente, scholen, Turkse taalscholen, zorgcentrum, een straat met winkeltjes ontstaan. Gewoon een "normale wijk", maar dan afgesloten qua locatie.

Als je dat vergelijkt met hoe ze leven in Libanon of Jordanië in tenten in de modder...

Hebben de Turken echt heel netjes gedaan. Laat ook weer voor de zoveelste keer zien dat arabieren een stel incompetente savages zijn.
8miljard is er circa aan uitgegeven door de Turkse overheid (opvang van Syriërs in het geheel).

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Op dinsdag 1 januari 2019 20:37 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Correct. Maar je kan het ook zo bekijken: als je vlucht voor de ellende van oorlog, ben je toch tevreden met elke vorm van opvang?

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Op dinsdag 1 januari 2019 20:37 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Correct. Maar je kan het ook zo bekijken: als je vlucht voor de ellende van oorlog, ben je toch tevreden met elke vorm van opvang?

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Op dinsdag 1 januari 2019 21:52 schreef Aloulu het volgende:

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Meestal zit men jaren in die kampen. Ipv met je blote reet in de modder te moeten ronddwarrelen en tenten is het best leuk voor je gezinnetje als je gewoon wat geïsoleerds hebt, een schoon wijkje waar je kinderen veilig kunnen spelen. Iets menswaardigs zeg maar. Is dat teveel gevraagd?

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On February 7, 2018, approximately 500 to 600 pro-Syrian forces composed of Syrian Army infantry and a few hundred Russian mercenaries attacked a US JSOC (Joint Special Operations Command) outpost using artillery, tanks, and APCs in the assault. The ‘mercenaries’ were believed to have been composed of members of a Russian private military organization known as ‘The Wagner Group’. The Wagner Group has been used in the past by the Russian government to conduct special operations they don’t want Moscow associated-with directly. However they are known to train at Russian bases, are composed mainly of former Spetsnaz, and are believed to be ‘advised’ by active duty Spetsnaz to an unknown degree. It would not be unfair to call them a Special Operations Force.

Prior to the battle the forces developing against the US camp were overheard on radios communicating routinely in Russian, and were known after the battle to have left Syria and reported directly to Moscow. They also used EW (electronic warfare) assets before and during the battle that are known to be sole proprietary assets of the Russian military. It did not go well for them.

Though the attacking troops and their artillery and armor were seen massing in a nearby town days before the assault, there was no indication that an attack on the American outpost in particular would take place. Normally great care is taken to keep Russian and US forces from clashing directly in Syria.

A team of about 30 Delta Force soldiers, Rangers from the Joint Special Operations Command were working alongside Kurdish and Arab forces at a small dusty outpost next to a Conoco gas plant, near the city of Deir al-Zour.

Roughly 20 miles away, at a base known as a mission support site, a team of Green Berets and a platoon of infantry Marines watched drone feeds and passed information to the Americans at the gas plant about the gathering fighters.

About 1500 hrs., the Syrian force began moving toward the Conoco plant. By early evening, more than 500 troops and 27 vehicles (made up of tanks and APCs) had amassed.

In the American air operations center at Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar, and at the Pentagon, military officers and intelligence analysts watched the scene unfold. Commanders briefed American pilots and ground crews in support of the US forces in Syria, and air assets were placed on alert.

Back at the mission support site, the Green Berets and Marines were preparing a small reaction force, consisting of roughly 16 troops in four mine-resistant vehicles, to support the Conoco plant if they were needed.

About 2030 hrs., three Russian-made T-72 tanks moved within a mile of the Conoco plant. Bracing for an attack, the Green Berets prepared to launch the reaction force.

At the Conoco plant, American SOF troops watched a column of tanks and other armored vehicles turn and drive toward them around 2000 hrs.from a neighborhood of houses where they had tried to gather undetected.

About 2030 hrs., the Russian mercenaries and Syrian forces struck.

The Conoco outpost was hit with a mixture of tank fire, large artillery and mortar rounds. The air was filled with dust and shrapnel. The American SOF operators took cover, then ran behind dirt berms to fire anti-tank missiles and machine guns at the advancing column of armored vehicles.

For the first 15 minutes, American military officials called their Russian counterparts and urged them to stop the attack. When that failed, American troops fired warning shots at a group of vehicles and a howitzer.

The attackers were not deterred.

Soon American CloseAir Support aircraft began arriving in waves, including Reaper drones, F-22 stealth fighter jets, F-15E Strike Fighters, B-52 bombers, AC-130 gunships and AH-64 Apache helicopters. For the next three hours, dozens of American air assets pummeled enemy troops, tanks and other vehicles. Marine rocket artillery was fired from the ground.

The reaction team sped toward the fight. It was dark, and the roads were littered with felled power lines and shell craters. The 20-mile drive was made all the more difficult since the trucks did not turn on their headlights, relying solely on thermal-imaging cameras to navigate.

As the Green Berets and Marines neared the Conoco plant around 11:30 p.m., they were forced to stop. The barrage of artillery was too dangerous to drive through until airstrikes silenced the enemy’s howitzers and tanks.

At the plant, the commandos were pinned down by enemy artillery and running low on ammunition. Flashes from tank muzzles, antiaircraft weapons and machine guns lit up the air.

About 0100 hrs. with the Syrian artillery fire finally dwindling from the constant US air assault, the team of Marines and Green Berets pulled up to the Conoco outpost and began firing. At that point in the battle most of the air assets had returned to their bases to refuel and re-arm.

The United States JSOC troops, allied Syrian troops, and Marines….roughly 50 in all…. prepared for direct fire engagement as the Russian mercenaries left their vehicles and headed toward the JSOC outpost on foot in full-on frontal assault.

A handful of Marines ran ammunition to machine guns and Javelin missile launchers scattered along the berms and wedged among the trucks. Some of the Green Berets and Marines took aim from exposed hatches of their vehicles. Others remained in their trucks, using a combination of thermal screens and joysticks to control and fire the heavy machine guns affixed on their roofs.

A few of the US troops, including Air Force combat controllers, worked the radios to direct the next fleet of bombers flying toward the battlefield. At least one Marine exposed himself to incoming fire as he used a missile guidance computer to find targets’ locations in the dark and pass them on to the troops calling in follow-on airstrikes.

The Russian mercenaries were effectively massacred in the battle.

An hour later, they started to retreat and the American troops stopped firing. From their outpost, the Special Operators and Marines watched the mercenaries and Syrian fighters return to collect their dead. The small team of American troops suffered no harm in the battle. One allied Syrian fighter was wounded.

What the Russians leading the attack had failed to appreciate was the US forces’ combat experience and expertise at battlefield management. They also turned out to be totally inept at countering US air assets. They thought it would be a cake walk given their armor, artillery, and outnumbering the US Special operators more than ten to one. It was a lesson I’m sure the survivors will not soon forget.

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Op donderdag 3 januari 2019 12:26 schreef Bilge het volgende:
Volgens ' diplomatieke bronnen ' hebben Rusland en Turkije een overeenkomst bereikt over Manbij. De Russen hebben geen bezwaar tegen een Turkse inval. Bovendien heeft Rusland Asad gewaarschuwd/ bevolen om de stad niet in te nemen.

Hoewel de bron oncontroleerbaar is, ligt dit nieuws wel in de lijn der verwachting.

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Op donderdag 3 januari 2019 21:02 schreef IPA35 het volgende:
Ehhhmm, nee.

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Op vrijdag 4 januari 2019 22:12 schreef Slayage het volgende:
Die Russen ook

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Charles_Lister twitterde op vrijdag 04-01-2019 om 21:32:42 Very very interesting... #Russia just launched a heavy series of airstrikes targeting #HTS positions in/around Darat Izza & other areas of western #Aleppo.Those areas have just been captured from the #Turkey-backed #NLF. Is this the result of a new Ankara-#Moscow understanding? reageer retweet

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Op zaterdag 5 januari 2019 18:51 schreef Slayage het volgende:

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"Tja dan kunnen ze net zo goed gewoon verder gaan zoals het nu gaat" is dan de impliciete boodschap van het artikel ?

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bealejonathan twitterde op zaterdag 05-01-2019 om 22:02:41 Breaking: BBC understands 2 British soldiers have been seriously injured in #Syria . UK Special Forces have been operating alongside US - though MOD of course doesn’t comment on SF ops. Reports of coalition troops injured in #IS attack first came via social media reageer retweet

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ELINTNews twitterde op zaterdag 05-01-2019 om 22:35:23 #UPDATE: Local media now report up to 7 British Special Forces wounded after ISIS missile attack in eastern Syria https://t.co/2ku6I9rLVU reageer retweet

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Op zaterdag 5 januari 2019 19:18 schreef WammesWaggel het volgende:

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Voor meer dan de inleiding moet je betalen en aangezien ik volgende week op vakantie ga naar Israël geef ik mijn geld liever uit aan bier en humus aldaar

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Op zondag 6 januari 2019 00:42 schreef ZwolseVlag11 het volgende:

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Sorry maar ik ga het toch zeggen ...free palestina....