President - Donald Trump
Vice President - Mike Pence
Het kabinet
Cabinet-level officials:SPOILERSecretary of State - Mike Pompeo
Secretary of Treasury - Steven Mnuchin
Secretary of Defense - General Jim 'Mad Dog' Mattis
Attorney General - Jeff Sessions
Secretary of the Interior - Ryan Zinke
Secretary of Agriculture - Sonny Perdue
Secretary of Commerce - Wilbur Ross
Secretary of Labor - Alexander Acosta
Secretary of Health and Human Services - Alex Azar
Secretary of Housing & Urban Development - Ben Carson
Secretary of Transportation - Elaine Chao
Secretary of Energy - Rick Perry
Secretary of Education - Betsy DeVos
Secretary of Veterans Affairs - Ronny Jackson??? Robert Wilkie (Acting)
Secretary of Homeland Security - Kirstjen Nielsen
Andere kopstukken:SPOILERWhite House Chief of Staff - John F. Kelly
Trade Representative - Robert Lighthizer
Director of National Intelligence - Dan Coats
Ambassador to the UN - Nikki Haley
Director of the Office of Management & Budget - Mick Mulvaney
Director of the Central Intelligence Agency - Gina Haspel
Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency - Scott Pruitt
Administrator of the Small Business Administration - Linda McMahon
Verdwenen of voormalige kopstukken:SPOILERIvanka Trump (Advisor to the President), Jared Kushner (Senior Adviser Strategic Planning), Stephen Miller (Senior Adviser Policy), John Bolton (National Security Adviser), Kellyanne Conway (Counselor), Donald McGahn (White House Counsel), Sarah Huckabee Sanders (Press Secretary), Christopher Wray (Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation), Robert Mueller (Special Counsel), Rod Rosenstein (United States Deputy Attorney General).
Race voor het Huis:SPOILERKabinet: Tom Price (HHS), David Shulkin (VA), Rex Tillerson (State)
DOJ/FBI: Sally Yates, James Comey, Preet Bharara, Andrew McCabe
Communicatie WH: Mike Dubke, Sean Spicer, Anthony Scaramucci, Hope Hicks
Adviseurs enzo: Michael Flynn, Herbert McMaster, Reince Priebus, Rob Porter, Gary Cohn, Steve Bannon, John McEntee
Race voor de Senaat:
Races voor governor:
Voor uitgebreider gepraat over het buitenlandbeleid of de (absentie van) strategie hierin:
POL / Amerikaans Buitenlandbeleid: Trump de onderhandelaar
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twitter:eorden twitterde op dinsdag 17-07-2018 om 20:19:58The investigation under @PreetBharara of former New York state Senate majority leader Dean Skelos and son Adam Skelos, both just found guilty in retrail, remains responsible for one of the epic wiretap captures of our time.
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Trump heeft twee toeters:quote:Op woensdag 18 juli 2018 07:54 schreef Ludachrist het volgende:
Mooie aflevering van Trumps presidentschap weer. Capabel leider, zoveel is wel weer duidelijk.
Een hele luide om zijn achterban te belazeren en een timide om de politiek te overtuigen.
Die timide toeter werkte dus niet in Helsinki.
Dat kun je hem niet kwalijk nemen. Hij doet het werk pas sinds kort.quote:Op woensdag 18 juli 2018 08:56 schreef klappernootopreis het volgende:
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Trump heeft twee toeters:
Een hele luide om zijn achterban te belazeren en een timide om de politiek te overtuigen.
Die timide toeter werkte dus niet in Helsinki.
quote:[....]While National Security Adviser John Bolton, according to a source, thought Trump’s remarks were ill-advised, he believed that walking them back would only add fuel to the outrage pyre and make the president look weak. But Chief of Staff John Kelly was irate. According to a source, he told Trump it would make things worse for him with Robert Mueller. He also exerted pressure to try to get the president to walk back his remarks. According to three sources familiar with the situation, Kelly called around to Republicans on Capitol Hill and gave them the go-ahead to speak out against Trump. (The White House did not respond to a request for comment.) Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker Paul Ryan held televised press conferences to assert that Russia did meddle in the election.
Trump was boxed in. With seemingly only Rand Paul, Sean Hannity, and Tucker Carlson in his corner, Trump decided to backtrack. Appearing before reporters this afternoon, Trump blamed his comments on a grammatical mistake. “I would like to clarify, in a key sentence in my remarks, I said the word ‘would’ instead of ‘wouldn’t,’” he said, reading from a statement. “The sentence should have been: ‘I don’t see any reason why it wouldn’t be Russia.’”
To those who know Trump best, the 24-hour reversal is a sign that he’s unnerved by the intensity of the backlash he provoked. “The president sent a very clear message [that] his worldview is in sync with his base and members of his party,” former Trump campaign spokesman Jason Miller told me. “Any of these other kerfuffles, if he had addressed it the next day, we wouldn’t have had that many days of things like s-hole countries.”[...]
Ach die arme man heeft zich versproken! Toevallig kwam het positief over bij Putin en duurde het 2 dagen voordat hij erachter kwam en het 'rechtzette'. Benieuwd hoe Putin hierover denkt.quote:
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Dat kun je hem niet kwalijk nemen. Hij doet het werk pas sinds kort.
Trump zag er tijdens de persco verslagen uit. Ik krijg het idee dat hij daadwerkelijk bang is van die man. Daar zal ook vast een goede reden voor zijn. Probeer jij daar maar eens te gaan staan, of die crooked Hillary. Die had daar open en bloot met een server gestaan.
Het mooie is ook dat Trumperts op het internet maar op 2 manieren tekeer kunnen gaan. Het is of "hahaha, lekker weer een dag lachen om boze libs" of ze komen aanzetten met allerlei vergezochte samenzweringstheorieën. Een echt inhoudelijke verdediging van de acties van hun leidsman is gewoonweg nooit bij.quote:
Het probleem is dat zijn achterban alles maar dan ook alles goed vindt als er maar geen Democraat in het Witte Huis zit.
Daar heb je nog lekker lang over gedaan danquote:
Ik gaf hem eerst het voordeel van de twijfel met zijn onorthodoxe aanpak van problemen. Maar nu denk ik dat hij een idioot is.
Maar, beter ten halve gekeerd dan ten hele gedwaald.Dubieus.....quote:The Trump administration will end a longstanding requirement that certain nonprofit organizations disclose the names of large donors to the Internal Revenue Service, a move that will allow some political groups to shield their sources of funding from government scrutiny.
The change, which has long been sought by conservatives and Republicans in Congress, will affect thousands of labor unions, social clubs and political groups as varied as arms of the AARP, the United States Chamber of Commerce, the National Rifle Association and Americans for Prosperity, which is funded partly by the billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch.
Such groups have played an increasingly prominent role in American politics in the wake of the Supreme Court’s 2010 ruling in a case brought by the nonprofit group Citizens United, which empowered them to spend unlimited money on campaign ads.
Treasury officials said the reporting change — which affects contributions known as dark money because their source is hidden — would protect privacy and reduce compliance costs for nonprofit organizations. The I.R.S. could still request donor information from groups in the rare event that it was needed for tax scrutiny.[...]
Goed nieuws voor Soros!quote:
I.R.S. Will No Longer Force Kochs and Other Groups to Disclose Donors
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Dubieus.....
We zijn niet allemaal zo snel van begrip als jij.quote:Op woensdag 18 juli 2018 09:20 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:
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Daar heb je nog lekker lang over gedaan dan
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We zijn niet allemaal zo snel van begrip als jij.
Zeker nu er duidelijke aanwijzingen zijn dat er Russisch geld door de NRA wordt gesluisd.quote:
I.R.S. Will No Longer Force Kochs and Other Groups to Disclose Donors
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Dubieus.....
Cover your ass, I guess?
Maar minder goed nieuws voor de NRA...quote:
Respect.quote:
Ik gaf hem eerst het voordeel van de twijfel met zijn onorthodoxe aanpak van problemen. Maar nu denk ik dat hij een idioot is.
Join the club!
https://slate.com/news-an(...)-after-helsinki.html
Best handig. Het komt uit dat de NRA de GOP financiert met Russisch geld, en het antwoord daarop is dat de GOP niet meer aan hoeft te geven wie ze betaalt.quote:
I.R.S. Will No Longer Force Kochs and Other Groups to Disclose Donors
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Dubieus.....
Naja, dat verbaast wel, maar ook eigenlijk toch niet heel erg. Ze identificeerden zich immers al als republikein, wat tegenwoordig helaas zoveel betekent als dat je in een andere realiteit moet leven.quote:Op woensdag 18 juli 2018 09:47 schreef Re het volgende:
och maar 70% van de republicanss is het eens met Trump over Rusland, zelfs na Helsinki
https://slate.com/news-an(...)-after-helsinki.html
De vijand van je vijand is je vriend.quote:
Het probleem is dat zijn achterban alles maar dan ook alles goed vindt als er maar geen Democraat in het Witte Huis zit.
De haat jegens “de liberale elite”, het cordon deugmensen uit de betere stadswijken, is gewoon te groot. Dan is het heerlijk als er een lompe pestkop opstaat, die diametraal het tegenoverstelde roept en doet van wat de weldenkers en deugmensen aan meningen uitkramen.
Trump is niet gek, hij weet heel goed hoe hij ze allemaal de moeder trollt. Het is één grote Fuck You mentaliteit. Daar kun je veel kiezers mee wakker schudden, die vinden dat prachtig, en je kunt er de politiek ook aardig mee ontregelen, als je eenmaal op je plek zit.
Zijn dat niet dezelfde mensen die het omarmen van sociaal-democratische politieke standpunten als beschouwen als heulen met de communisten?quote:
och maar 70% van de republicanss is het eens met Trump over Rusland, zelfs na Helsinki
https://slate.com/news-an(...)-after-helsinki.html
Het woordje 'deugmensen' is wel pure aids zegquote:Op woensdag 18 juli 2018 09:55 schreef Ringo het volgende:
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De vijand van je vijand is je vriend.
De haat jegens “de liberale elite”, het cordon deugmensen uit de betere stadswijken, is gewoon te groot. Dan is het heerlijk als er een lompe pestkop opstaat, die diametraal het tegenoverstelde roept en doet van wat de weldenkers en deugmensen aan meningen uitkramen.
Trump is niet gek, hij weet heel goed hoe hij ze allemaal de moeder trollt. Het is één grote Fuck You mentaliteit. Daar kun je veel kiezers mee wakker schudden, die vinden dat prachtig, en je kunt er de politiek ook aardig mee ontregelen, als je eenmaal op je plek zit.
. Maar dat terzijde.daar lijken me ze niet over na de denken want putin is een held dus republikein of zoquote:
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Zijn dat niet dezelfde mensen die het omarmen van sociaal-democratische politieke standpunten als beschouwen als heulen met de communisten?
Poetin is natuurlijk geen communist, maar een zakkenvullende autoritaire lul die bovendien de oppositie helemaal heeft uitgeschakeld, dingen die ze prachtig schijnen te vinden bij de GOP.quote:
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daar lijken me ze niet over na de denken want putin is een held dus republikein of zo
Alle deugmensen naar Siberië.quote:
Poetin is natuurlijk geen communist, maar een zakkenvullende autoritaire lul die bovendien de oppositie helemaal heeft uitgeschakeld, dingen die ze prachtig schijnen te vinden bij de GOP.
Geen communist?? Hij gebruikt dezelfde methodes, hij is een voormalig KGB agent uit de voormalige Sovjet Unie. Hij laat tegenstanders opsluiten of vergiftigen, hij laat vliegtuigen neerschieten, hij heeft spionnen die verkiezingen beïnvloeden. Tot voor een generatie geleden werd dit in de VS als Communistische pogingen gezien om de staat te ondermijnen. Nu zijn ze in het congres ziende blind omdat er een pak geld voor hun vette smoel is neergezet.quote:
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Poetin is natuurlijk , maar een zakkenvullende autoritaire lul die bovendien de oppositie helemaal heeft uitgeschakeld, dingen die ze prachtig schijnen te vinden bij de GOP.
Ik zie het communisme als een economisch systeem, iets wat ze in Rusland toch al weer even achter zich hebben gelaten.quote:
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Geen communist?? Hij gebruikt dezelfde methodes, hij is een voormalig KGB agent uit de voormalige Sovjet Unie. Hij laat tegenstanders opsluiten of vergiftigen, hij laat vliegtuigen neerschieten, hij heeft spionnen die verkiezingen beïnvloeden. Tot voor een generatie geleden werd dit in de VS als Communistische pogingen gezien om de staat te ondermijnen. Nu zijn ze in het congres ziende blind omdat er een pak geld voor hun vette smoel is neergezet.
Dat Poetin bij de KGB zat klopt natuurlijk, maar hij is tegenwoordig vooral een graaiende despoot die met communisme niks meer te maken heeft.Euhm, precies andersom. NRA hoeft nu niet meer aan te geven van wie ze geld krijgen toch?quote:
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Maar minder goed nieuws voor de NRA...
Volgens mij gaat dat gewoon van:quote:
och maar 70% van de republicanss is het eens met Trump over Rusland, zelfs na Helsinki
https://slate.com/news-an(...)-after-helsinki.html
"Bent u het eens met Trumps uitspraak over.."
"Ja!"
Daarmee ook beweren dat je zelf lekker niet wilt deugen. Prima dat je dat niet wilt, maar dan ben je wel gewoon een onfatsoenlijke klootzak. Mij ontgaat volledig de reden waarom iemand zich zou willen profileren als een stuk menselijk afval.quote:Op woensdag 18 juli 2018 10:04 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:
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Het woordje 'deugmensen' is wel pure aids zeg
Niks mis met dat men mij een "deugmens" vindt, maar doe dat niet over de ruggen van kinderen, minder bedeelden of andersdenkenden. Dan ben je gewoon een laffe hond en het is raar dat iemand daar trots op zou zijn. Wat voor een gare opvoeding heb je dan genoten zeg...
Omdat die kennis nu bij het congres bekend is hoeft er niet meer naar gezocht te worden.quote:
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Euhm, precies andersom. NRA hoeft nu niet meer aan te geven van wie ze geld krijgen toch?
https://www.facebook.com/(...)5301/?type=3&theater
Is dit echt?quote:The Russian Defense Ministry is ready for the practical implementation of agreements in the area of global security reached in Helsinki between Russian President Vladimir Putin and US President Donald Trump, the ministry's spokesman, Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov, told reporters on Tuesday.
Het lijkt echt te zijn:
[quote]The Pentagon declined to comment.[/quote]twitter:RusEmbUSA twitterde op dinsdag 17-07-2018 om 23:15:06The Russian Defense Ministry @MoD_Russia🇷🇺 is ready for the practical implementation of agreements in the area of global security reached in Helsinki between Russian President Vladimir Putin and US President Donald Trump➡️ https://t.co/uTtyHgLJ9K https://t.co/PvBwF4KqJD reageer retweet
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Ja, is echt... US offers no details as Russia claims Trump and Putin reached military agreements Edit: Zie dat je zelf deze link ook al nu net hebt toegevoegdquote:
Van de russische ambasade in de VS:
https://www.facebook.com/(...)5301/?type=3&theater
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Is dit echt?
Het lijkt echt te zijn:twitter:RusEmbUSA twitterde op dinsdag 17-07-2018 om 23:15:06
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Pentagon geeft geen commentaar.
Eerder had The Guardian bv. wel wat informatie over mogelijke punten: Helsinki summit: what did Trump and Putin agree?
Dan is het wachten op het moment dat het congres die tolk op het matje gaat roepen.quote:
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Ja, is echt... US offers no details as Russia claims Trump and Putin reached military agreements Edit: Zie dat je zelf deze link ook al nu net hebt toegevoegd
Pentagon geeft geen commentaar.
Eerder had The Guardian bv. wel wat informatie over mogelijke punten: Helsinki summit: what did Trump and Putin agree?
Dit idd. Ongelooflijk god mag weten welk europees land die mafkees beloofd heeft.quote:
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Dan is het wachten op het moment dat het congres die tolk op het matje gaat roepen.
Oekraïne, obviously.quote:
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Dit idd. Ongelooflijk god mag weten welk europees land die mafkees beloofd heeft.
ik denk eerder Syrië. Die zal de poorten dan wagenwijd openzetten zodat de onvermijdelijke vluchtelingenstroom naar europa plaats kan vinden. Wie achterblijft wordt met gifgas door Assad vermoord. Dan zijn de oliepijpleidingen die door Syrië lopen ook weer veilig gesteld.quote:
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Dit idd. Ongelooflijk god mag weten welk europees land die mafkees beloofd heeft.
Geen probleem, hij belt Poetin gewoon even op en zegt dat hij het anders bedoelde.quote:
Trump is nu ook, net als na Charlotteville, zijn walkback aan het backwalken. Intussen weet niemand wat Trump Putin precies beloofd heeft. Wat een puinhoop.
President Trump has falsely claimed that the Queen inspected her Honour Guard for the first time in 70 years - all because of his visit to the UK.
quote:He said: "We met with the queen, who is absolutely a terrific person, where she reviewed her Honour Guard for the first time in 70 years, they tell me. We walked in front of the Honour Guard and that was very inspiring to see and be with her. And I think the relationship, I can truly say is a good one. But she was very, very inspiring indeed."
Ach, het is Trump maar. Gewoon laten lullen. Lost cause.quote:
Ik weet dat dat Rusland een hot button issue is en alles, maar ik zag net dit:
President Trump has falsely claimed that the Queen inspected her Honour Guard for the first time in 70 years - all because of his visit to the UK.
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Ik weet dat dat Rusland een hot button issue is en alles, maar ik zag net dit:
President Trump has falsely claimed that the Queen inspected her Honour Guard for the first time in 70 years - all because of his visit to the UK.
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Het enige uitje waar die koningin voor uit haar stoel komt is juist die inspectie. Trump liep haar hierbij ook nog behoorlijk in de weg.Die zal dit best wel accepterenquote:
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Geen probleem, hij belt Poetin gewoon even op en zegt dat hij het anders bedoelde.
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Trump is nu ook, net als na Charlotteville, zijn walkback aan het backwalken. Intussen weet niemand wat Trump Putin precies beloofd heeft. Wat een puinhoop.
x1000https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moron_(psychology)
quote:"Moron" was coined in 1910 by psychologist Henry H. Goddard[3] from the Ancient Greek word μωρός (moros), which meant "dull"[4] and used to describe a person with a mental age in adulthood of between 8 and 12 on the Binet scale.[5] It was once applied to people with an IQ of 51–70, being superior in one degree to "imbecile" (IQ of 26–50) and superior in two degrees to "idiot" (IQ of 0–25). The word moron, along with others including, "idiotic", "imbecilic", "stupid", and "feeble-minded", was formerly considered a valid descriptor in the psychological community, but it is now deprecated in use by psychologists.
Ja. Dit. Echt ongelooflijk.quote:
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Dit idd. Ongelooflijk god mag weten welk europees land die mafkees beloofd heeft.
Dat ene land dat de Tsaar toen had veroverd en waar hij toen was gaan wonen om timmerman te worden geloof ik.quote:
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Dit idd. Ongelooflijk god mag weten welk europees land die mafkees beloofd heeft.
Niet alleen zijn achterban ook republiekse politici houden het bij wat lafhartig commentaar. Maar als het op dingen doen aankomt is en democratisch iets steunen erger als Trump dwars zitten.quote:
Het probleem is dat zijn achterban alles maar dan ook alles goed vindt als er maar geen Democraat in het Witte Huis zit.
Ik verwacht dat er republikeinen die de senaat toch al verlaten nog even voor wat oproer kunnen zorgen. Maar het gros is laf en verschuilt zich onder de russische vlag.quote:Op woensdag 18 juli 2018 12:44 schreef vipergts het volgende:
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Niet alleen zijn achterban ook republiekse politici houden het bij wat lafhartig commentaar. Maar als het op dingen doen aankomt is en democratisch iets steunen erger als Trump dwars zitten.
twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 11:53:41So many people at the higher ends of intelligence loved my press conference performance in Helsinki. Putin and I discussed many important subjects at our earlier meeting. We got along well which truly bothered many haters who wanted to see a boxing match. Big results will come! reageer retweet
Dude.....twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 11:53:41
Ik ben overtuigd. We leven in een simulatie.
twitter:tedlieu twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 13:16:12Dear @realDonaldTrump: I am not a stable genius, but even I know that you forgot to put in the word "Russian" before "people" in your statement below. Also, the rest of us less intelligent people in America thought your performance in Helsinki was disgraceful.#WednesdayWisdom https://t.co/k39dyRoHY0 reageer retweet
twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 13:27:59
Enige oplossing om deze man te stoppen is om alle volgers op twitter van hem te ontvolgen dan alle nieuws camera's in amerika af te wenden van hem.
Als hij geen aandacht meer krijgt verwelkt hij als een sneeuwklokje in de woestijn.
Ruzie maken met volksvijandige types als Merkel, May, Clinton, Comey, all those fucking weak-hearted liberals.
Vrienden maken met sterke stugge kerels als Poetin of Kim Jong-un, dappere hoeders van hun vaderland, krachtige leiders, mannen met wie niet te spotten valt.
Dat willen de mensen in het land graag horen!
Behalve als iemand eet in een bus, dan wil men keihard politieoptreden!quote:
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Daarmee ook beweren dat je zelf lekker niet wilt deugen. Prima dat je dat niet wilt, maar dan ben je wel gewoon een onfatsoenlijke klootzak. Mij ontgaat volledig de reden waarom iemand zich zou willen profileren als een stuk menselijk afval.
Niks mis met dat men mij een "deugmens" vindt, maar doe dat niet over de ruggen van kinderen, minder bedeelden of andersdenkenden. Dan ben je gewoon een laffe hond en het is raar dat iemand daar trots op zou zijn. Wat voor een gare opvoeding heb je dan genoten zeg...
Nee joh, heel geen puppet, die Trump... geheel toevallig dat iedereen liegt behalve Putin en dat steeds Russische standpunten ge-echo'd worden.quote:Trump fundamentally undermines NATO, suggests 'aggressive' Montenegro may attack Russia to start World War III (Business Insider)
• President Donald Trump expressed skepticism over the US's commitment with NATO by singling Montenegro, its newest member.
• Trump questioned whether or not the US would defend it, as required to do by NATO's founding treaty.
• Trump suggested that the US, which "[pays] 90% of the costs to defend Europe," was being abused by the alliance.
• Trump imagined a scenario where Montenegro's "aggressive people" could spark World War III with Russia.
• His train of thought closely mirrors Russian anti-NATO messaging.
President Donald Trump returned to undermining NATO on Tuesday by singling out the alliance's smallest and newest member, Montenegro, following a European tour that Republicans heavily criticized for misrepresenting US values.
In an interview with Fox News host Tucker Carlson on Tuesday, Trump was asked why the US should answer the call to defend Montenegro - which was admitted to NATO in 2017 - in the event it was attacked.
NATO members can invoke a mutual defense clause in the event of an attack on its soil, obligating all 28 other states to come to its defense.
The clause, known as Article 5, has only ever been invoked one time, by the US after the September 11, 2001 attacks.
"Let's say Montenegro, which joined last year ... why should my son go to Montenegro to defend it from attack," Tucker asked Trump.
"I understand what you're saying, I've asked the same question," Trump said. "Montenegro is a tiny country with very strong people."
Tucker quickly interjected by saying he was "not against Montenegro" and added that any country, such as Albania, could have been applied in his hypothetical scenario.
But Trump added another wrinkle to the scenario and suggested Montenegro's "aggressive people" could spark a global conflict and drag the US with it.
"By the way, they're very strong people. They're very aggressive people," Trump said. "They may get aggressive. And congratulations, you're in World War III."
If Montenegro, a country with just over 620,000 people, became aggressive and started a war with Russia, they could not invoke Article 5 and require US involvement. That's because it would not be in response to an attack on a NATO member, but it would instead be an attack from a NATO member.
Montenegro reportedly pledged more troops to help fight the US's longest war in Afghanistan. Prior to joining NATO, Montenegro assisted in Afghanistan's reconstruction efforts for nearly eight years.
Rather than instigating World War III with Russia, Montenegro has had to fend off what it describes as a Russian attempt to kill its prime minister in 2016.
Describing NATO ascension, expansion, or NATO countries taking steps to defend their homelands as "aggressive" is a hallmark of Russian messaging in its opposition against the alliance.
Trump attacks the cost of NATO
Trump comments echoed his previous assertion that NATO members are not contributing enough on domestic and joint defense spending.
Trump suggested that the US, which "[pays] 90% of the costs to defend Europe," bore the short end of the stick. NATO members contribute to the organization's funding on an agreed cost-share formula based their gross national income, to which the US contributes 22% towards.
"It was very unfair. They weren't paying," Trump said. "So not only are we paying for most of it, but they weren't even paying and we're protecting them. Add that to your little equation on Montenegro."
During his summit with other NATO countries, Trump blasted allies and demanded that members increase their domestic defense spending to "2% of GDP IMMEDIATELY." A non-legally-binding guideline states that members should reach 2% by 2024.
Tensions also flared in the NATO summit after Trump accused Germany of being "totally controlled by Russia" for receiving a large share of oil and natural gas.
At one point, NATO leaders invoked a special emergency session after Trump's remarks prompted concern.
Dit heeft hij regelrecht overgenomen van Fox.quote:Op woensdag 18 juli 2018 13:29 schreef Boze_Appel het volgende:
twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 13:27:59
Als hij geen marionet is van Putin, is hij dat wel van Fox news.quote:
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Dit heeft hij regelrecht overgenomen van Fox.
Dat denk ik al langerquote:
Hij is echt een opper troll om iedereen te trollen.
Enige oplossing om deze man te stoppen is om alle volgers op twitter van hem te ontvolgen dan alle nieuws camera's in amerika af te wenden van hem.
Als hij geen aandacht meer krijgt verwelkt hij als een sneeuwklokje in de woestijn.
en geen vragen schreeuwen bij zg. pressco.Ofschoon ik de press in Helsinki beheerst de “juiste” vragen hoorde stellen, waaraan ook Putin werd blootgesteld.
Zou de pressco in Rusland zijn uitgezonden?
Nee dan kan hij ongestoord zijn gang gaan. Hij vindt het juist vervelend dat mensen kritische vragen stellen.quote:
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Dat denk ik al langer
Ofschoon ik de press in Helsinki beheerst de “juiste” vragen hoorde stellen, waaraan ook Putin werd blootgesteld.
Zou de pressco in Rusland zijn uitgezonden?
GOP nationaal:
Trump 85%
Corker 15%
Suffolk University
Dem nationaal:
Sanders 37%
Biden 25%
Dont know 38%
Google Surveys
Biden 32%
Clinton 18%
Sanders 16%
Warren 10%
Booker 6%
Bloomberg 3%
Harris 2%
Cuomo 1%
Gillibrand 1%
Other 12%
Harvard-Harris
Trump blijft dus redelijk populair onder zijn eigen aanhang, terwijl de Dems totaal verdeeld zijn.Alle kandidaten bij de democraten die hoog staan zijn allemaal rond de 70 of zelfs 80.quote:
Nieuwe peilingen:
GOP nationaal:
Trump 85%
Corker 15%
Suffolk University
Dem nationaal:
Sanders 37%
Biden 25%
Dont know 38%
Google Surveys
Biden 32%
Clinton 18%
Sanders 16%
Warren 10%
Booker 6%
Bloomberg 3%
Harris 2%
Cuomo 1%
Gillibrand 1%
Other 12%
Harvard-Harris
Ik ben altijd reuzebenieuwd hoe mensen in 2018 denken over mogelijke kandidaten in 2020.quote:
Ja, ik verbaas me ook altijd over die twee(?) wekelijkse peiling van 1-vandaag over onze partijen. VVD zetel eraf, DENK 1 erbij...wie de neuk cares???quote:Op woensdag 18 juli 2018 14:34 schreef Ludachrist het volgende:
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Ik ben altijd reuzebenieuwd hoe mensen in 2018 denken over mogelijke kandidaten in 2020.
dafuq? Dat gaan weinig mensen in de VS leuk vinden.quote:Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump and his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, spoke for a second time on July 7 in a previously undisclosed discussion, the White House confirmed on Tuesday.
A senior White House official told CNN the discussion was "nearly an hour."
The White House, in a statement acknowledging the meeting, contended it was "brief" and said Trump spoke with Putin through Russia's translator. The US translator at the dinner -- each country was only allowed only one -- spoke Japanese, the White House said.
Duh. Meestal staat de eigen partij wel achter de zittende president. Die verliezen zelden primary's/quote:
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Trump blijft dus redelijk populair onder zijn eigen aanhang, terwijl de Dems totaal verdeeld zijn.Alle kandidaten bij de democraten die hoog staan zijn allemaal rond de 70 of zelfs 80.
Uiteraard hebben de Russen dat. En waarschijnlijk heeft Trump dat niet. En dus kunnen de Russen alles wat gezegd is openbaar maken wanneer en op de manier die ZIJ willen.twitter:kylegriffin1 twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 14:50:00Ex-NATO Supreme Allied Commander Adm James Stavridis: "In terms of what happened there, the Russians have a recording. There was a translator in the room ... it is knowable only in Russia, where I guarantee you they have a word for word transcript of everything." @Morning_Joe reageer retweet
Ongemakkelijke opmerking van Vlad? Ach, knippen we wel weg.
Gehaspel van Donnie? Doe eens een gok.....
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Trump, Putin met for nearly an hour in second G20 meeting
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dafuq? Dat gaan weinig mensen in de VS leuk vinden.
Hij heeft geen vertaler nodig?
Nee joh. Net als wanneer Poetin zich laat interviewen door buitenlandse pers of vergadert met buitenlandse politici; vragen in het Engels, antwoorden in het Russisch. Die man doet alles om te kutten.quote:
Wel iemand om opnames te maken.quote:
Corker en Flake alvast niet zo te lezen.quote:
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Ik verwacht dat er republikeinen die de senaat toch al verlaten nog even voor wat oproer kunnen zorgen. Maar het gros is laf en verschuilt zich onder de russische vlag.
https://www.politico.com/(...)-russia-putin-728974
Dit zal de GOP bij de midterms weinig helpen. En heeft Trump geen tools meer tot zijn beschikking, dan krijgt hij niks meer gedaan. Mijn hemel, de GOP had de beschikking over zowel de senaat als het huis, dan mag je best wel wat meer hebben bereikt dan een paar dozijn per decreet afgeraffelde besluiten.quote:
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Trump blijft dus redelijk populair onder zijn eigen aanhang, terwijl de Dems totaal verdeeld zijn.Alle kandidaten bij de democraten die hoog staan zijn allemaal rond de 70 of zelfs 80.
Volstrekt onzinnige interpretatie, maar dat snap je zelf ook best. Kom eerst eens met fatsoenlijke bronvermelding graag.quote:
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Trump blijft dus redelijk populair onder zijn eigen aanhang, terwijl de Dems totaal verdeeld zijn.Alle kandidaten bij de democraten die hoog staan zijn allemaal rond de 70 of zelfs 80.
twitter:TrumpinTheShark twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 14:55:34@markknoller @KellyannePolls A lot of people are laughing at Donald getting "would" and "wouldn't" mixed up. But in fairness, the Access Hollywood fallout taught us that he doesn't know the difference between "Yes" and "No" either, so it seems perfectly plausible to me. reageer retweet
twitter:JuliaDavisNews twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 03:14:27#Russia's state TV host: "It is very bizarre, you can't bash your own country like that - especially when you're the President."Female host: "When Trump says our relations are bad because of American foolishness and stupidity, he really smells like an agent of the Kremlin." ©️ https://t.co/8fRLrZbUul reageer retweet
HHS is forced to prioritize migrant crisis over medical research and other goals.
quote:The health department has quietly dipped into tens of millions of dollars to pay for the consequences of President Donald Trump’s border policy, angering advocates who want the money spent on medical research, rural health programs and other priorities.
The Department of Health and Human Services has burned through at least $40 million in the past two months for the care and reunification of migrant children separated from their families at the border — with housing costs recently estimated at about $1.5 million per day.
The ballooning costs have also prompted officials to prepare to shift more than $200 million from other HHS accounts, even as the White House weighs a request for additional funding for the Department of Homeland Security — a politically explosive move almost certain to antagonize fiscal hawks in the run-up to the midterm elections.
"We have a public health emergency like Ebola, Zika, hurricanes — except this one is man-made," said Emily Holubowich, executive director of the Coalition for Health Funding, who says HHS should request emergency funding too. "We should not be taking discretionary funding away from programs that need it."
HHS didn't respond to questions about spending on the crisis.SPOILERFrustration over the lack of transparency and the slow pace of family reunifications spilled over as appropriators marked up a Labor-HHS-Education funding bill last week. Republicans joined Democrats to unanimously back penalties for the health department if it didn't detail its efforts to reunite families.
"This is not a policy we should be pursuing," said Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.), the Labor-HHS-Education subcommittee chairman, criticizing the administration's plan to split families at the border.
“We have sent letters demanding answers with regards to the costs ... [and] we have received no answers from OMB or from HHS," said Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn.), subcommittee ranking member. "The Trump administration is withholding information from the Congress."
HHS Secretary Alex Azar last week extolled his department's work to house and care for separated children, calling it "one of the great acts of American generosity and charity" in a CNN interview.
But the services haven't come cheap. Simply housing more than 2,500 children separated by the Trump administration has cost more than $30 million in the past two months, say two individuals with knowledge of the refugee office's operations.
One major spending driver is that HHS has been forced to use "influx shelters" — temporarily contracted facilities — because of the surge in migrant children separated from their parents. The cost to care for a child in an influx shelter is reportedly nearly $800 per child per night, more than triple the cost of standard shelters.
"We were forced to turn to influx shelters when there was no choice," said Mark Greenberg, a senior fellow at the Migration Policy Institute who led the Administration for Children and Families from 2013 through 2015. "That’s really different from deciding to expand influx shelters because you’ve chosen to forcibly separate families."
The frenzied effort to reunite families after a court order and Trump's executive order halting separations has added considerable costs — particularly because HHS and DHS hadn’t prepared for the possibility of putting families back together and now have staff working overtime to meet the court‘s deadlines.
HHS spent $10 million to hire an additional 100 case managers and about 50 support staff to help handle children's cases for the next two months. In addition, Azar's decision to tap his emergency response team has added hundreds of thousands of dollars in spending by deploying public health workers and other specialized staff to the refugee centers.
More logistical spending looms: HHS needs to transport separated children to immigration centers where they'll be reunited with their parents, although the agency is trying to control costs by grouping the children's trips together.
HHS leadership has approved the spending, although it's created deficits for the Administration for Children and Families, which oversees the refugee office.
The agency has dipped into nearly $200 million in funds that were initially steered to the refugee office in the waning days of the Obama administration, including at least $17 million in unspent funds on the Ryan White HIV/AIDS program.
The Obama administration was moving the funds because leaders were concerned about rising and unpredictable pressures at the border. “We faced costs because of unanticipated increases in rising children,” said Greenberg, the former ACF director. “Now the additional costs are being faced because the Trump administration decided to implement family separation — and they used the refugee shelters to facilitate it."
Greenberg said he's worried that shifting the funds inside ACF could put the division's funding for other programs, including unemployment services and other supports for newly arrived refugees, at risk.
Health care advocates also said they're frustrated the funds have been rapidly drained under the Trump administration's new policies.
"If there’s leftover money from Ryan White, it should go to support programs for poor people with HIV and AIDS, not this outrageous separation policy," Holubowich said.
She added that "public health agencies still aren’t where they need to be" after budget sequestration in 2010 and other recent cuts, pointing to a controversial decision this week to eliminate an HHS database on medical guidelines because officials said they couldn't come up with $1.2 million in funding.
They're also concerned the Trump administration — by forcibly separating thousands of children — may have created significant, costly health care problems that will linger for years.
HHS in June was preparing to transfer an additional $263 million to the refugee office's unaccompanied children program, according to a draft letter from Azar to DeLauro and first obtained by Bloomberg. However, the letter was never sent and the transfer never made amid rising scrutiny of agency operations and overall spending. "We’re still so in the dark on what’s going on," said a spokesperson for the Appropriations Committee Democrats.
Transferring funds within the health department will still be necessary, said two individuals with knowledge of the reunification effort.
The Trump administration also has been hashing out a possible supplemental funding request for Homeland Security, and any additional money would need sign-off from Congress. But that kind of funding package could be a treacherous move for GOP leaders ahead of the midterms.
Trump’s immigration policy aside, Republican leaders would need to convince fiscal hawks in both chambers to back the package — just months after approving a record $133 billion for disaster aid, none of which was offset.
Lawmakers could decide to buck Congress’ strict spending caps, though they’d likely run head first into a dispute with the White House budget office. Mick Mulvaney, who leads that agency, has already refused funding increases for any program beyond this year’s massive spending caps deal.
quote:Was Georgia’s Election System Hacked in 2016?
Mueller’s latest indictments raise new questions about the integrity of Georgia’s voting infrastructure. Why is the state stonewalling?
An indictment last week of 12 Russian military officers is focusing new attention on election servers in Georgia that are currently embroiled in a lawsuit between election integrity activists and the secretary of state. The activists, intent on proving that the state’s paperless voting machines are not secure and should be replaced, want to examine two state election servers to look for evidence that Russian hackers or others might have compromised them to subvert elections. But the state has been fighting them for more than a year, citing sovereign immunity from lawsuits and also insisting to the media that Georgia was never targeted by Russian hackers. (Politico).SPOILERFor the last year it seemed the latter might be true.
When the Department of Homeland Security notified 21 states in 2017 that they had been targeted by Russian hackers intent on interfering with the 2016 U.S. presidential election, Georgia – despite having one of the most vulnerable voting systems in the country—was not among them. Trump won the state by nearly 6 percentage points over Democrat Hillary Clinton, whose campaign had hoped to pick up the reliably Republican state for the first time since 1992.
DHS said Russian hackers had probed websites in the 21 states looking for vulnerabilities, and in at least one state—Illinois—they found a vulnerability in a server that hosted the state's voter registration database, allowing them to access 90,000 voter records. But the Russians were apparently unsuccessful in finding vulnerabilities in other state election sites and evidently never bothered at all with servers in Georgia, according to the agency.
This was odd because around the same time the Russians were targeting other states, a security researcher in Georgia named Logan Lamb discovered a serious security vulnerability in an election server in his state. The vulnerability allowed him to download the state’s entire database of 6.7 million registered voters and would have allowed him or any other intruder to alter versions of the database distributed to counties prior to the election. Lamb also found PDFs with instructions and passwords for election workers to sign in to a central server on election day as well as software files for the state’s ExpressPoll pollbooks — the electronic devices used by pollworkers to verify a voter's eligibility to vote before allowing them to cast a ballot.
The unpatched and misconfigured server had been vulnerable since 2014 and was managed by the Center for Election Systems, a small training and testing center that until recently occupied a former two-story house on the Kennesaw State University campus. Until last year the Center was responsible for programming every voting machine across the state, raising concerns that if the Russians or another adversary had been able to penetrate the Center’s servers as Lamb had done, he or she might have been able to find a way to subvert software distributed by the Center to voting machines across the state.
But Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp, who was the only state election official to refuse security assistance from the Department of Homeland Security prior to the election, has insisted for more than a year that his state’s voting systems were never at risk in the 2016 election, because DHS told him the Russians had not targeted Georgia.
This changed on Friday, however, when the Justice Department unsealed the indictment against 12 Russian intelligence officers who oversaw an operation that, the department now says, included targeting county websites in Georgia.
On or around Oct. 28, 2016 Anatoliy Sergeyevich Kovalev and Aleksandr Vladimirovich Osadchuk, both officers in the Russian military assigned to Unit 74455, allegedly conspired with others to hack into computers involved in U.S. election administration, according to the complaint. This included scoping out the websites of unidentified counties in Iowa, Florida and Georgia to identify vulnerabilities they could use to access backend servers. The indictment doesn’t say directly, but implies, that the servers were part of infrastructure for county election offices.
Asked about this new revelation, a spokeswoman for the secretary of state’s office in Georgia declined to address it directly and said only that the secretary of state’s own office had never been breached.
“We have never been hacked, and according to President Trump and the Department Of Homeland Security, we have never been targeted,” Candice Broce wrote in an email. “Georgia has secure, accessible, and fair elections because [Secretary of State Brian] Kemp has leveraged private sector solutions for robust cyber security, well before any of those options were offered by the federal government.”
In truth, Kemp’s office would not have been the most likely target for Russian hackers, since his office has had little to do with the administration of elections in Georgia since at least 2002, when it contracted that responsibility to the Center for Election Systems. For 15 years, it was well known that the Center was responsible for training election workers, programming the state’s electronic voting machines before each election and distributing the voter registration database to counties. The Center’s servers would have been the ideal target for Russian hackers, says Marilyn Marks, executive director of the Coalition for Good Governance, the group behind the lawsuit against the secretary of state.
“These sophisticated agents certainly [would have known] that Georgia’s entire election programming and management system, including private voter data, was on a single central computer managed by Secretary of State Kemp’s contract agent at Kennesaw State University,” she told Politico.
The unpatched and insecure server that Lamb breached weren’t the Center’s only problem. A report produced by the university’s IT department after the Lamb breach found numerous other security problems as well. These security problems are all the more alarming, Marks and others say, because Georgia uses a single model of touchscreen voting machine statewide that security researchers have shown to be vulnerable to hacking. The machines do not have a paper trail and therefore provide no means of conducting an audit of their election results – an ideal scenario for anyone who wants to subvert an election. Marks and her fellow plaintiffs in the lawsuit want the state to replace these machines with ones that use paper ballots.
As part of their discovery demands, they want to examine the Center’s servers to see if anyone other than Lamb had breached them prior to the 2016 presidential election or a special congressional runoff election that was held on June 20 the following year between Karen Handel, who was secretary of state prior to Kemp, and Jon Ossoff. With the revelations in Friday’s indictment, Marks says an examination of the Center’s servers is more important than ever.
“The indictment’s reference to Russians searching for Georgia vulnerabilities makes it all the more imperative that plaintiffs in the federal lawsuit be promptly granted the right to conduct forensic discovery on the remaining electronic records related to the server,” Marks told Politico.
This might be difficult to do, however. Shortly after the plaintiffs filed their lawsuit in July 2017, technicians at Kennesaw State University wiped the Center’s servers clean, destroying any evidence that might have been on them. Two backup servers also got wiped a month later—news the plaintiffs learned only months later after obtaining emails that disclosed the data destruction. Kemp’s office initially distanced himself from the destruction, accusing the technicians of “ineptitude” for wiping servers that were part of litigation. He later said, however, that the wiping had simply been standard operating procedure performed any time servers were taken out of service.
The good news is that FBI agents in Atlanta made a mirror image of the server that Lamb breached when they were investigating his intrusion, and the plaintiffs are hoping the judge overseeing their case will rule that they can examine this image. It’s unclear, however, if the image preserved everything that was on the server and if the image still exists.
A spokesman for the FBI’s office refused to comment on the matter and referred POLITICO to KSU. KSU did not respond.
Marks says it’s astonishing how little curiosity or concern Kemp and Georgia’s Election Board have shown toward the Center’s server. “[The] Russians would not have had to ‘hack’ or force their way in. The electronic door was wide open ... and KSU’s wiping of the server logs would have likely concealed their tracks.
“[It] appears that Kemp and the State Board prefer not to know [what may have happened on that server],” Marks told me. “Nor do they want plaintiffs to find out, as they are continuing to block all attempts at litigation discovery.”
Was the Queen sending coded messages to Donald Trump via her brooches? Absolutely
quote:On the first day of his visit, she wore a brooch given to her as a mark of friendship by the Obamas. By the end of the trip, it was Queen’s brooches 3, Trump 0
What fashion lessons can we learn from Trump’s visit?
Nancy, London
Well, none from Trump himself, other than the obvious; when meeting the Queen, it is best not to wear a suit that looks as if you found it at the bottom of a dry-cleaning pile and, for the love of God, button the jacket, man. Look at the state of you.
As for Melania, well, after last month’s Jacketgate – when, for her visit to incarcerated migrant children, she opted to wear a jacket with the timeless, moving slogan on the back: “I really don’t care, do u?” – she opted for a less wordy wardrobe on this trip. Her long, yellow dress by the ultra-pricey designer brand J Mendel prompted some wits on social media to compare it with Belle’s gown in the animated Beauty and the Beast, further prompting them to suggest she was implying her husband is a monster. Which is all rather amusing, except that the beast is actually good and smart and selfless, so that’s where the analogy collapses. It seems more likely that Melania was reverting to the look her fans like most, which is that of a high-maintenance, uber-feminine princess, exemplified by her refusal to take off her ridiculously high stilettos, even when playing bowls on the grass in London, and, really, who even knew that was possible? It’s funny how Trump fans insist that they like the Trumps because they seem so “real”, while at the same time preferring them when they look most like parodies of tasteless rich people. It’s sort of like how, on the one hand, Trump’s defenders claim he’s so smart and, on the other, insist any moronic mistake he makes prove he’s just a regular guy. But, truly, fathoming the double-think of a Trump supporter is beyond my paygrade.
One person, however, who seems to have mastered how to handle Trump has been on top form over the past week. One who really knows how to get the better of him without even noticing. No, I am not speaking about Vladimir Putin, but, someone who may well be the greatest political mastermind of our age: our one and only Queen Elizabeth II.
Casual royal observers such as myself barely noticed the Queen’s fashion choices during Trump’s visit, because we were too busy cringing at Trump’s behaviour around her. Whether you give a fig about the royals or not – and I come very much from the “no fig” end of the spectrum – watching Trump galumph around in front of her, get in her way and generally act as if she wasn’t even there was, just on a human level, throw-up-on-your-own-shoes nauseating. She’s a 92-year-old woman, show her some respect, you giant Oompa-Loompa! But, of course, expecting thoughtfulness from a man who, earlier this year, was photographed holding an umbrella over his own precious head, leaving his young son exposed to the elements, brings to mind words such as “blood” and “stone”.
And the Queen, wisely, appeared to expect none either, because it turns out she was sending us all coded messages via the medium of her brooches. Yes, her brooches – read on and bow down in awe, James Bond. Twitter user @SamuraiKnitter has pointed out that on the first day of the Trump visit, the Queen wore a simple green brooch that was given to her by the Obamas to signify their friendship. On the second day, she wore a brooch given to her by Canada, a country with which Trump is less than pleased at the moment (also, it was in the shape of a snowflake, a classic Trump term for people who disagree with him.) And, for the last day, she chose a brooch she wore to the funeral of her father, so not one associated with happiness and joy. Queen’s brooches: 3. Trump: 0.
Is this all reading too much into it? Well, it is known the Queen does choose her brooches according to the theme of the day, such as the love knot brooch she wore to William and Kate’s wedding. And, let us never forget the exciting time last year when, to open parliament, she wore a hat bearing a striking resemblance to the EU flag.
Has the Queen been trying to talk to us all this time and we just didn’t notice? Because we know she’s not allowed to make political statements, but what if she’s been sending them to us through her wardrobe? My God! I hereby declare that, like the British government, we all take an early holiday and spend the next couple of weeks combing through photos of the Queen, reading the runes of her twinsets. It’s OK, guys, the Queen is totally going to fix Brexit! Cherchez the brooches!
quote:Kremlin's transcript of Putin's remarks in Helsinki redacts admission that Russia was responsible for Crimea's separatist referendum
The Kremlin doctored its official transcript of Putin's remarks to journalists, following his meeting on Monday in Helsinki with U.S. President Trump, redacting the word “we” from Putin's statement about the 2014 referendum in Crimea that led to Moscow's annexation of the peninsula: “We believe [we] held the referendum in strict compliance with international law and the UN Charter.”
In video posted on the Kremlin's website, you can still hear Putin use the words “we carried out,” however.
The English-language translation posted by the Kremlin, meanwhile, still reflects what Putin actually said: “We believe that we held a referendum in strict compliance with international law and the UN Charter.” (Meduza).
Alleged Russian agent Maria Butina had ties to Russian intelligence agency, prosecutors saytwitter:NatashaBertrand twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 17:19:39Prosecutors: Maria Butina had ties to Russian intelligence operatives and was in contact with them while in the United States https://t.co/UlFGneIFoG reageer retweet
quote:The Russian woman arrested on charges of being a foreign agent had ties to Russian intelligence operatives and was in contact with them while in the United States, federal prosecutors said Wednesday. Maria Butina also had ties to wealthy businessmen linked to the Putin administration and appeared to have plans to flee the U.S., prosecutors said in a new court filing.
Butina, 29, was initially arrested on a criminal complaint on Sunday, federal authorities indicted her Tuesday on charges of conspiracy to act as an agent of a foreign government and failing to register as an agent of a foreign government. She is scheduled for a detention hearing Wednesday afternoon on whether to release her from jail before trial, and prosecutors filed a motion this morning outlining why she should be held without bond.SPOILERButina entered the country on a student visa in August 2016, and her lawyer said Monday that she had recently earned a master’s degree from American University in international relations.
But she had been in the United States multiple times before that, and even questioned then-candidate Donald Trump in July 2015 at a public forum, asking him what his policies would be toward Russia.
“I know Putin and I’ll tell you what,” Trump told Butina, “we get along with Putin...I don’t think you need the [economic] sanctions” imposed on Russia after its annexation of Crimea.
As Butina began making more contacts with leaders of the National Rifle Association and the Republican party, she landed on the radar of the FBI, who started tracking her movements to determine what she was doing in the United States, according to officials familiar with the case.
FBI agents served a search warrant on Butina’s residence in April, her lawyer, Robert Neil Driscoll, said in court Monday, and he insisted that Butina “has been offering to cooperate with the government the entire time.” He also disclosed that she had testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee in a closed session earlier this year.
The charges against Butina were obtained on Saturday, court records show, the day after the Justice Department revealed an indictment against 12 Russian intelligence officers for allegedly conspiring to hack Democratic politicians in 2016. Law enforcement officials then became concerned that Butina appeared to be planning to leave the Washington area and decided to seek charges and make an arrest, according to people familiar with the case.
An affidavit in support of the criminal complaint by FBI Special Agent Kevin Helson said that before and after her August 2016 arrival, she served as a special assistant to a “high-level official” in the Russian government who was previously a member of the Russian legislature and later a top official at the Russian central bank. That description would match Alexander Torshin, a former Russian senator and central banker who was one of 17 Russian government officials individually subjected to sanctions earlier this year for activities related to Syria and Ukraine as well as Crimea.
The indictment accuses Butina of conspiring with the unnamed “Russian official” to “infiltrate organizations active in American politics in an effort to advance the interests of the Russian federation.” The indictment does not name any organizations, but Helson’s affidavit frequently referred to her contacts with an unnamed “Gun Rights Organization,” “U.S. Person 1” and “Political Party 1.”
The gun rights organization is almost certainly the National Rifle Association, whom Butina began reaching out to in 2013 and meeting with both in the U.S. and Russia. “U.S. Person 1,” who the indictment claims provided Butina with a list of American contacts to help her agenda, is likely Paul Erickson, a Republican consultant who sought to organize a meeting between then-candidate Trump and Torshin at an NRA convention in 2016, and who the affidavit says first met Butina in Moscow in 2013.
Butina told the Senate Intelligence Committee that she began a romantic relationship with Erickson, people familiar with her testimony said, and investigators believed she may have intended to go to Erickson’s home state of South Dakota before she was arrested.
“Political Party 1” is likely the Republican party. It is not mentioned in the indictment, but Helson’s affidavit cited a 2015 email in which Butina told “U.S. Person 1” that “Political Party 1 “ would likely obtain control over the U.S. government after the 2016 elections, that the party had a central role in the “Gun Rights Organization” and that the unnamed gun organization was “the largest sponsor of the elections to the U.S. congress, as well as a spnosor of the CPAC conference,” an annual conservative political gathering.
In the email, Butina asked the unnamed Russian official for $125,000 to participate in “all upcoming major conferences” of “Political Party 1.” Butina and the official later attended both the 2016 and 2017 National Prayer Breakfasts, as well as the NRA’s national convention, where Torshin is a life member. Butina is also a gun rights activist in Russia and a former gun store owner.
In October 2016, “U.S. Person 1” told Butina in an email that he had “been involved in securing a VERY private line of communication between the Kremlin and key ‘Political Party 1’ leaders through, of all conduits, the ‘Gun Rights Organization.’” Helson concluded that this email showed the American’s “involvement in Butina’s efforts to establish a ‘back channel’ communication for representatives of the Government of Russia.”
U.S. Person 1, or Erickson, has not been charged with any crimes, which is sometimes an indication that they are cooperating with an investigation.
After the November 2016 election of Trump, Butina sent a Twitter message to her Russian official proposing a meeting between Russian officials and U.S. congressmen, which the official later discouraged. “I believe these messages,” Helson wrote, “are the Russian Official relaying the Russian Federation’s instructions to its agent, Butina.”
Je kan zelf de leeftijden opzoeken van de DEM frontrunners.........quote:
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Volstrekt onzinnige interpretatie, maar dat snap je zelf ook best. Kom eerst eens met fatsoenlijke bronvermelding graag.
Klopt gedeeltelijk, alleen heb je in de senaat vaak 60 stemmen nodig om iets in stemming te brengen en uiteraard werken de democraten niet mee.quote:
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Dit zal de GOP bij de midterms weinig helpen. En heeft Trump geen tools meer tot zijn beschikking, dan krijgt hij niks meer gedaan. Mijn hemel, de GOP had de beschikking over zowel de senaat als het huis, dan mag je best wel wat meer hebben bereikt dan een paar dozijn per decreet afgeraffelde besluiten.
Maar inderdaad ook de republikeinen zijn verdeeld.
Op dit moment zijn zulke polls gewoon een reflectie van iemands naamsbekendheid. Bijna iedereen kent Biden, een stuk minder mensen iemand als Harris. Op het moment dat de campagne daadwerkelijk begint gaat dat draaien.quote:
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Trump blijft dus redelijk populair onder zijn eigen aanhang, terwijl de Dems totaal verdeeld zijn.Alle kandidaten bij de democraten die hoog staan zijn allemaal rond de 70 of zelfs 80.
In 2014 stonden Chris Christie en Mike Huckabee bovenaan de polls bij de GOP, just saying.
Het ligt aan de spin die jij er aan geeft. Die is totaal onzinnig. Nog los van het feit dat je niks aan dit soort polls hebt.quote:
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Je kan zelf de leeftijden opzoeken van de DEM frontrunners.........
Ik vind 15% voor iemand als Corker nog best hoog, overigens. Als Trump daadwerkelijk een challenger krijgt is dat slecht voor zijn kansen in 2020. Cue Bush en Buchanan in 1992.
Daar gaat het natuurlijk niet om. Je negeert het feit dat er nog nul kandidaten bekend zijn, niemand campagne voert, naamsbekendheid een grote rol speelt, er bij de Democraten door de peiler negen kandidaten worden gepeild en bij de Republikeinen slechts twee en ga zo maar door. Daar ben je al tig keer op gewezen.quote:
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Je kan zelf de leeftijden opzoeken van de DEM frontrunners.........
Ik plaats de peilingen omdat ik en sommige andere het wel leuk en/of interessant vinden. Als jij er geen behoefte aan hebt, reageer dan niet.quote:
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Daar gaat het natuurlijk niet om. Je negeert het feit dat er nog nul kandidaten bekend zijn, niemand campagne voert, naamsbekendheid een grote rol speelt, er bij de Democraten door de peiler negen kandidaten worden gepeild en bij de Republikeinen slechts twee en ga zo maar door. Daar ben je al tig keer op gewezen.
twitter:renato_mariotti twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 17:49:42The American discussed in the indictment of Russian spy Maria Butina allegedly gave her access to organizations in exchange for sex. Looks like there will be an arrest of this Russian collaborator soon. https://t.co/YIxIj8wLiF reageer retweet
twitter:SethAbramson twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 18:00:22I think that ship already sailed. One would imagine the feds got Butina via Erickson--given that Erickson became a person of interest for Mueller in 2017 due to his emails to Dearborn and Butina was just arrested. My educated guess is that Erickson is already cooperating. https://t.co/jhIx1IkMsl reageer retweet
Nee sorry, niemand vindt het leuk of interessant.quote:
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Ik plaats de peilingen omdat ik en sommige andere het wel leuk en/of interessant vinden. Als jij er geen behoefte aan hebt, reageer dan niet.
De kritiek komt ook niet op het plaatsen van de peiling. Maar op de aantoonbaar onzinnige duiding.quote:
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Ik plaats de peilingen omdat ik en sommige andere het wel leuk en/of interessant vinden. Als jij er geen behoefte aan hebt, reageer dan niet.
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Trump blijft dus redelijk populair onder zijn eigen aanhang, terwijl de Dems totaal verdeeld zijn.Alle kandidaten bij de democraten die hoog staan zijn allemaal rond de 70 of zelfs 80.
Dat de Democraten verdeeld zijn, is geen onzinnige duiding.quote:
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De kritiek komt ook niet op het plaatsen van de peiling. Maar op de aantoonbaar onzinnige duiding.
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Divided Democrats are in danger
http://thehill.com/opinio(...)ocrats-are-in-danger
Broken in two: Democrats divided after Rep. Crowley's defeat
https://www.nbcnews.com/p(...)ley-s-defeat-n887061
Zou zo maar kunnen, maar dat kan je niet op basis van de door jou geposte peilingen zeggen. En dat is wel wat je deed. Onzinnige duiding dusquote:
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Dat de Democraten verdeeld zijn, is geen onzinnige duiding.
Divided Democrats are in danger
http://thehill.com/opinio(...)ocrats-are-in-danger
Broken in two: Democrats divided after Rep. Crowley's defeat
https://www.nbcnews.com/p(...)ley-s-defeat-n887061
Kerel, je post peilingen voor de presidentsverkiezingen in 2020. Dat terwijl de Democraten nog geen kandidaat hebben aangewezen.quote:
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Dat de Democraten verdeeld zijn, is geen onzinnige duiding.
Divided Democrats are in danger
http://thehill.com/opinio(...)ocrats-are-in-danger
Broken in two: Democrats divided after Rep. Crowley's defeat
https://www.nbcnews.com/p(...)ley-s-defeat-n887061
Het heeft totaal geen toegevoegde waarde.
Trouwens deze politici gaan waarschijnlijk kandidaat worden voor de dems:quote:
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Zou zo maar kunnen, maar dat kan je niet op basis van de door jou geposte peilingen zeggen. En dat is wel wat je deed. Onzinnige duiding dus
- Warren
- Biden
- Sanders
- Harris
- Booker
Warren Is Preparing for 2020. So Are Biden, Booker, Harris and Sanders.
https://www.nytimes.com/2(...)candidates-2020.html
Ik weet dat de meeste hier zich nu willen richten op de midterms en pas na de midterms, wanneer de kandidaten zich verkiesbaar stellen(begin 2019), over 2020 willen praten. Maar 2020 is gewoon interessant.quote:
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Kerel, je post peilingen voor de presidentsverkiezingen in 2020. Dat terwijl de Democraten nog geen kandidaat hebben aangewezen.
Het heeft totaal geen toegevoegde waarde.
Ik heb er momenteel geen interesse in. En in je duidingen al helemaal niet.quote:
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Ik plaats de peilingen omdat ik en sommige andere het wel leuk en/of interessant vinden. Als jij er geen behoefte aan hebt, reageer dan niet.
Nee.quote:
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Ik weet dat de meeste hier zich nu willen richten op de midterms en pas na de midterms, wanneer de kandidaten zich verkiesbaar stellen(begin 2019), over 2020 willen praten. Maar 2020 is gewoon interessant.
Ja maar zo'n poll is dat gewoon nu nietquote:
Het kan best interessant zijn, maar de conclusie die jij trekt slaat nergens op.quote:
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Ik weet dat de meeste hier zich nu willen richten op de midterms en pas na de midterms, wanneer de kandidaten zich verkiesbaar stellen(begin 2019), over 2020 willen praten. Maar 2020 is gewoon interessant.
Trump: No.
En weer z’n inlichtingendiensten afvallen, die gek.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnb(...)ing-us-1280310851661
Hij bedoelde denk ik Yesquote:
‘Is Russia still targeting the US?’
Trump: No.
En weer z’n inlichtingendiensten afvallen, die gek.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnb(...)ing-us-1280310851661
Yesn't.quote:
quote:'Trump's son should be concerned': FBI obtained wiretaps of Putin ally who met with Trump Jr.
The FBI has obtained secret wiretaps collected by Spanish police of conversations involving Alexander Torshin, a deputy governor of Russia’s Central Bank who has forged close ties with U.S. lawmakers and the National Rifle Association, that led to a meeting with Donald Trump Jr. during the gun lobby’s annual convention in Louisville, Ky., in May 2016, a top Spanish prosecutor said Friday.BronSPOILERJosé Grinda, who has spearheaded investigations into Spanish organized crime, said that bureau officials in recent months requested and were provided transcripts of wiretapped conversations between Torshin and Alexander Romanov, a convicted Russian money launderer. On the wiretaps, Romanov refers to Torshin as “El Padrino,” the godfather.
“Just a few months ago, the wiretaps of these telephone conversations were given to the FBI,” Grinda said in response to a question from Yahoo News during a talk he gave at the Hudson Institute, a conservative think tank in Washington. Asked if he was concerned about Torshin’s meetings with Donald Trump Jr. and other American political figures, Grinda replied: “Mr. Trump’s son should be concerned.”
The comments by Grinda were the first clear sign that the FBI may be investigating Torshin, possibly as a part of special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Torshin — a close political ally of Vladimir Putin — had multiple contacts with conservative activists in the United States during the election, seeking to set up a summit between the Russian president and then candidate Trump. Although the summit never transpired, Torshin did meet briefly with the president’s son at a private dinner in Louisville during the May 2016 annual convention of the NRA. A member of the NRA since 2012, Torshin has been a regular attendee of the group’s conventions in recent years and hosted senior members of the group in Moscow.
Grinda said that the FBI, in its request for the evidence to the Guardia Civil, the Spanish National Police, provided no explanation as to why it was interested in the material and he didn’t ask for one. “I don’t have to ask them why they want this information,” he said. But Grinda added that if Mueller or any other U.S. prosecutor seeks to use the material as part of a court case, they would have to make a second, more formal request to do so to the Spanish government.
Spokesmen for the FBI and Mueller’s office did not respond to requests for comment. Alan Futerfas, a lawyer for Trump Jr., said he was in a meeting and was unable to comment when contacted by Yahoo News.
Torshin has been the subject of intensifying U.S. government and congressional scrutiny over the past year and was recently among a lengthy list of oligarchs and Russian political figures sanctioned by the Treasury Department. As reported by Yahoo News and the Spanish newspaper El País last year, the Spanish National Police were preparing to arrest Torshin in August 2013, when he was expected to fly to the Spanish island of Mallorca in August for the birthday party of Romanov. The arrest plan, which involved the deployment of more than a dozen police officers at the airport and at the hotel where the party was supposed to take place, grew out of a lengthy investigation headed by Grinda into Russian organized crime and money laundering. As part of the probe, the Guardia Civil wiretapped Romanov’s phone and picked up 33 conversations with Torshin.
But Torshin never showed up for the party and he was never arrested. Grinda confirmed in an interview after his talk that some in the Guardia Civil suspected that Torshin had been tipped off to the arrest plan by Russian officials who had been asked to cooperate in the Spanish probe. But Grinda added that he was unable to prove that was why Torshin never showed up for the party.
Despite the suspicions about his ties to Russian money laundering, Torshin continued to travel frequently to the United States and even showed up as part of a Russian delegation in February 2017 to the National Prayer Breakfast, where he was at one point scheduled to meet with President Trump. (The meeting was canceled the night before, after National Security Council officials raised concerns about it.) More recently, Oregon Sen. Ron Wyden sent multiple letters to the NRA asking about its ties to Torshin and other Russian figures, questioning whether Russian money was funneled to the NRA to help pay for the more than $30 million the group spent on political ads and get out the vote efforts during the 2016 election.
An NRA lawyer, in responses to Wyden, said that Torshin has only paid his membership dues to the group and that, based on an internal review, the NRA received a total of only $2,500 from about 23 Russia-linked contributors since 2015. However, the NRA is now reviewing its relationship with Torshin in light of the Treasury Department blacklisting him last month. “Based on Mr. Torshin’s listing as a specially designated national as of April 6, we are currently reviewing our responsibilities with respect to him,” NRA general counsel John Frazer wrote to Wyden.
An NRA spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.
Ik blijf erbij dat het echt interessant wordt als iemand als Jr. in staat van beschuldiging wordt gesteld. Trump kan natuurlijk moeiteloos een pardon verstrekken, maar ben benieuwd of de Republikeinen daar dan klakkeloos in mee gaan. Eerlijk gezegd begin ik dat steeds meer te denken. Veel verder dan wat stoere woordjes hier en daar komt de partij niet.quote:
https://www.theguardian.c(...)tectionism?CMP=fb_gu
An investigation reveals that the fake news sites that flourished in Macedonia in 2016 weren’t just the work of local teens — and that security agencies are probing possible connections to Russia.
quote:A joint investigation by BuzzFeed News and partners has uncovered new information that rewrites the story of the fake news boom in the Macedonian town of Veles.
A week before Election Day in 2016, BuzzFeed News revealed that young men and teens in Veles were running over a hundred websites that pumped out often false viral stories that supported Donald Trump.
Media outlets from around the world descended upon Veles to tell the story of how the so-called fake news teens — many of whom had a shaky understanding of English — made large sums of money from digital ads shown next to their misleading stories about US politics.
But after reviewing social media posts, government records, domain registry information, and archived versions of fake news sites, as well as interviewing key players, BuzzFeed News, the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project, and the Investigative Reporting Lab Macedonia can now reveal that Veles’ political news industry was not started spontaneously by apolitical teens.
Rather, it was launched by a well-known Macedonian media attorney, Trajche Arsov — who worked closely with two high-profile American partners for at least six months during a period that overlapped with Election Day.
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Harris leek mij altijd wel een goede. Maar heb haar te weinig gevolgd.quote:
Als we dan toch gaan speculeren: ik zet mijn geld op Sherrod Brown. Als hij meedingt. Of anders Harris. De rest is te oud of te jong of heeft teveel bagage.
Net gestart.quote:
‘WH says Trump was saying ‘no’ to answering questions, not to whether Russia continues to target US’
‘WH says Trump believes that Russia would target US elections again’
Tuuuuuuuuuuuurlijk
Heel geloofwaardig iddquote:
Via Reuters zie ik binnenlopen dat Sanders weer wat recht moet zetten
‘WH says Trump was saying ‘no’ to answering questions, not to whether Russia continues to target US’
‘WH says Trump believes that Russia would target US elections again’
Tuuuuuuuuuuuurlijk
Maar het zijn geen puppets
twitter:RobbieGramer twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 20:07:27State prepared a fiery statement rebuking Russia on the 4th anniversary of the downing of MH17 amid the Trump-Putin firestorm. The statement never went out. Here’s a draft copy. My latest scoop
@ak_mack https://t.co/CCygSFGtna reageer retweet
quote:Exclusive - State Department Silent on MH17 Anniversary Following Trump-Putin Firestorm
The department prepared to criticize Russia’s role in the 2014 downing of a civilian airliner over Ukraine, but the statement was never released.
Every year since a Russian missile downed Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 over Ukraine on July 17, 2014, killing all 298 passengers and crew, the U.S. State Department has issued a statement to mark the anniversary.
But on the anniversary this year—a day after U.S. President Donald Trump met in Helsinki with his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin—the State Department was conspicuously silent about it. (Foreign Policy).SPOILEROfficials there prepared a draft statement that was sharply critical of Russia for its alleged role in the attack. But for reasons the State Department has not explained, it was never issued.
“Four years after the downing of MH17, the world still awaits Russia’s acknowledgement of its role,” read the draft, a copy of which was obtained by Foreign Policy.
“It is time for Russia to cease its callous disinformation campaign and fully support the next investigative phase … and the criminal prosecution of those responsible for the downing of flight MH17.”
[For the full draft of the statement, see below.]
The passenger jet, traveling from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, was downed in eastern Ukraine, where a conflict simmered between Ukrainian forces and Russian-backed separatists.
This anniversary was particularly significant because it was the first since the Dutch-led international investigation into the incident published its conclusion that the missile originated from a Russian military unit based near the border with Ukraine.
Former U.S. Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul described the State Department’s silence on the issue as “deeply disappointing.”
“This should be very pro forma in the U.S. government. The evidence is overwhelming. Just to be on the record on the right side of history is very prudent,” he said.
A State Department spokesman said in response to a query from FP that he would not comment on allegedly leaked documents.“The United States’ position on the MH17 catastrophe has not changed,” he added.
Foreign ministers of the G-7 group—including the U.S. secretary of state—released a statement on Sunday criticizing the attack and Russia’s role in it. The Canadian and British Foreign ministries promptly posted it on their websites. But the State Department did so only on Wednesday, after being asked about the issue by FP.
The statement posted Wednesday appeared to reflect a kind of carelessness about the matter. It said the G-7 foreign ministers “today issued the following statement in advance of the anniversary” even though the anniversary was Tuesday. The other G-7 foreign ministries released the statement three days before the United States.
The State Department spokesman referred FP to the G-7 statement and another statement published in May on the findings by the Dutch-led investigative team that reaffirmed the plane was shot down by a Russian missile.
While the U.S. Embassy in Kiev did release the joint statement a day ahead of the anniversary, the embassy in Moscow also made no mention of the anniversary on its website at the time of this report’s publication.
The anniversary is particularly sensitive for the Netherlands. Of the 298 killed in the plane’s downing, a large majority, 193, were Dutch. The U.S. ambassador to the Netherlands, Pete Hoekstra, wrote in a tweet on Tuesday, “Today my thoughts are with the families and friends of the victims of MH17.” But he made no mention of Russia’s role in shooting down the plane.
The Dutch-led Joint Investigation Team found that a convoy of vehicles from the Russian armed forces transported the missile from the Russian military base across the border into Ukraine. It was fired at the jet from a field held by pro-Russian separatists. It is still not yet known who launched the weapon.
The Russian military has rejected the findings of the investigation, and the Russian state media has been trained on denying Russia’s involvement.
The State Department draft was set to go out as early as Monday but was quashed at the last minute. Officials were told to “stand down” on releasing it because Secretary of State Mike Pompeo “did not approve” the language, according to one official familiar with the deliberations.
The statement said the evidence “conclusively proves” the missile came from a specific Russian military brigade, “was brought into sovereign Ukrainian territory from Russia, was fired from Russia-controlled territory in eastern Ukraine, and was then returned to Russian territory.”
Trump lavished praise on Putin in Helsinki Monday and stunned U.S. lawmakers and national security experts by siding with him against the U.S. intelligence community’s assessments of Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Pompeo also traveled to Helsinki to take part in the summit.
On Tuesday, Trump said he misspoke regarding Russia’s interference. But he failed to address other instances during the 45-minute press conference in which he praised Putin and cast doubt on the FBI probe into allegations of his campaign’s collusion with Russia.
The debacle left top Republican lawmakers fuming. In response, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee is summoning Pompeo for a public hearing next Wednesday to discuss the Helsinki summit, as well as the administration’s North Korea policy.
McFaul, the former U.S. ambassador in Moscow, said he’s also angry that the State Department had not yet commented on another budding dispute with Russia.
On Tuesday, the Russian prosecutor general said he wanted to question McFaul and two other former U.S. officials as part of a Russian investigation into alleged financial crimes by American investor Bill Browder’s hedge fund Hermitage Capital.
Browder has been at loggerheads with Russian authorities for over a decade, after Russian tax officials allegedly stole $230 million in taxes that the fund had paid to the Russian government.
McFaul said that he was “pissed off” and “outraged” that the State Department had not yet issued a comment criticizing the request and defending him.
The full text of the statement the State Department prepared but never issued regarding the anniversary of the downing of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 over Ukraine:
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Office of the Spokesperson
For Immediate Release
July 17, 2018
Statement by Heather NAUERT, SPOKESPERSON
Remembering the Shoot Down of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17
Today marks the fourth anniversary of the downing of Malaysia Flight #17 (MH-17) over eastern Ukraine and the horrific deaths of 298 civilians. We again offer our deepest condolences to their families.
Four years after the downing of MH-17, the world still awaits Russia’s acknowledgement of its role. The United States has complete confidence in the findings of the Joint Investigation Team (JIT), including those announced on May 24, 2018, and in the JIT’s ongoing work. Based on an extensive compilation of images and other evidence, the JIT provided conclusive evidence that the BUK Transporter Erector Launcher (TELAR) from which the missile that downed MH-17 was fired, came from Russia’s 53rd Anti-aircraft Missile Brigade, a unit of the Russian army. Like a fingerprint, the combination of matching characteristics derived from the JIT’s images clearly and conclusively proves that the BUK TELAR that downed MH-17 came from the 53rd Brigade in Russia, was brought into sovereign Ukrainian territory from Russia, was fired from Russia-controlled territory in eastern Ukraine, and was then returned to Russian territory.
It is time for Russia to cease its callous disinformation campaign and fully support the next investigative phase of the JIT and the criminal prosecution of those responsible for the downing of flight MH-17. We will never forget the 298 innocent civilian lives tragically lost on that day, and we call for justice on their behalf.
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Geen zelfrespect, dat mensquote:
Dat zou impliceren dat ze er eigenlijk niet helemaal achter staat van wat ze doet. Dat kan, maar ik heb daar niet echt een aanwijzing voor gezien?!quote:
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Via Reuters zie ik binnenlopen dat Sanders weer wat recht moet zetten
‘WH says Trump was saying ‘no’ to answering questions, not to whether Russia continues to target US’
‘WH says Trump believes that Russia would target US elections again’
Tuuuuuuuuuuuurlijk
twitter:kylegriffin1 twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 21:01:00
Wow ... just ... wow...twitter:JohnJHarwood twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 20:53:41WH press sec Sanders acknowledged that Putin talked to Trump about his interest in prosecuting financier Bill Browder and former US ambassador Michael McFaul. she declined to rule out US cooperation in that effort, saying Trump would consult his national security team reageer retweet
Ja, dat viel te verwachten. Putin wil Browder maar wat graag in z'n handen krijgen en het boeit Trump geen flikker waarom.quote:Op woensdag 18 juli 2018 21:12 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:
Wow ... just ... wow...twitter:JohnJHarwood twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 20:53:41
Ik werd nota bene onlangs nog gemaand door niemand anders dan redpilled om toch vooral op te passen op de politiestaat die achter Trump aan zou zitten. Volstrekte omkering van de werkelijkheid weer, wat natuurlijk destijds al duidelijk was ... maar des te pijnlijker hiermee.quote:
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Ja, dat viel te verwachten. Putin wil Browder maar wat graag in z'n handen krijgen en het boeit Trump geen flikker waarom.
http://time.com/5340545/b(...)ky-act-donald-trump/
quote:The biggest mistake that Putin made in his offer today to effectively swap me for the 12 Russian agents is that he went to the wrong head of state. Although I was born in America, I emigrated to the United Kingdom 29 years ago and am a British citizen. If he really wants me, he better go talk to Theresa May, who might have a few choice words for him after Russian agents spread the military-grade nerve agent Novichok across the cathedral town of Salisbury, England.
De primary in California is nu naar Super Tuesday gehaald. Dat is goed voor haar kansen, aangezien ze die waarschijnlijk wint en dan heeft ze in één keer een hele hoop delegates en momentum. Denk ook dat een vrouw goed gaat scoren, daar zit echt een hele hoop energie bij Democraten. Bovendien is veel van het primary publiek bij de Democraten in de zuidelijke staten Afro-Amerikaan, en daar heeft ze ook een voordeel (tenzij Booker ook mee doet, of iemand anders met die achtergrond). Haar posities zijn misschien iets te centristisch maar ik denk dat haar persoonlijkheid en achtergrond dat deels goedmaakt.quote:
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Harris leek mij altijd wel een goede. Maar heb haar te weinig gevolgd.
Ben benieuwdquote:
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De primary in California is nu naar Super Tuesday gehaald. Dat is goed voor haar kansen, aangezien ze die waarschijnlijk wint en dan heeft ze in één keer een hele hoop delegates en momentum. Denk ook dat een vrouw goed gaat scoren, daar zit echt een hele hoop energie bij Democraten. Bovendien is veel van het primary publiek bij de Democraten in de zuidelijke staten Afro-Amerikaan, en daar heeft ze ook een voordeel (tenzij Booker ook mee doet, of iemand anders met die achtergrond). Haar posities zijn misschien iets te centristisch maar ik denk dat haar persoonlijkheid en achtergrond dat deels goedmaakt.
Zoals gezegd: bij mij heeft ze een paar keer een goede indruk achter gelaten, maar ik heb haar te weinig gevolgd.
twitter:badler twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 16:21:55"Montenegro says a group of Serb and Russian nationalists had a plan to attack state institutions on the day of an election last year and kill then-Prime Minister Milo Djukanovic," https://t.co/2yLI9w1oGT reageer retweet
Montenegro begins trial of alleged pro-Russian coup plotterstwitter:mattyglesias twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 16:23:07It’s weird that Donald Trump had a long private meeting with Vladimir Putin and suddenly emerged with a newfound interest in undermining US security guarantees to Montenegro. https://t.co/I8msFXPN26 reageer retweet
quote:The trial of 14 people in Montenegro accused of an election day plot to kill the prime minister and bring a pro-Russian party to power began on Wednesday, with defense lawyers demanding the state prosecutor be removed from the case.
Montenegro says a group of Serb and Russian nationalists had a plan to attack state institutions on the day of an election last year and kill then-Prime Minister Milo Djukanovic, who held the post for a total of 21 years.
The Kremlin has dismissed the accusation as absurd. Montenegro’s opposition accuses the government of fabricating the plot in order to keep Djukanovic and his Democratic Party of Socialists in power, which it did by a narrow win.
“This is a politically staged process,” said an aide to Andrija Mandic, one of two pro-Russian opposition leaders on trial.
The defendants include 2 Russians, 9 Serbians and 3 Montenegrins, of which four are being tried in absentia. Among them are two Russian nationals accused of masterminding the plot.
At the first hearing on Wednesday, defense lawyers called for state prosecutor Milivoj Katnic to be dismissed from the case after his office published a transcript of a conversation between a defendant and his lawyer on its website on Monday.
“It is clear that after this the prosecutor has to stop working on this case,” said Mandic’s lawyer, Miroje Jovanovic.
A spokeswoman at the state prosecutor’s office denied to comment.
Montenegro says one of the aims of the coup attempt was to prevent it from joining NATO, which it did in June this year.
Montenegro and other countries in the region fear meddling from Moscow to further what they believe is a Russian foreign policy of expansion.
No date has been set for the next hearing.
quote:Wow ... just ... wow...twitter:JohnJHarwood twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 20:53:41
twitter:McFaul twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 22:27:51I hope the White House corrects the record and denounces in categorical terms this ridiculous request from Putin. Not doing so creates moral equivalency between a legitimacy US indictment of Russian intelligence officers and a crazy, completely fabricated story invented by Putin https://t.co/K1ZvrNwTu3 reageer retweet
twitter:waltshaub twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 23:08:58This is stunning, outrageous and very very dangerous. The thought that the president would commit to even considering turning a former US Ambassador over to Russia -- in connection with his federal service, no less -- is amazing even for this administration. Where is Congress?! https://t.co/udHOzs5sA7 reageer retweet
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Het zou je maar overkomen als Amerikaans burger. Word je zo weggegeven.quote:
[..]twitter:McFaul twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 22:27:51
Dat je daar als oud ambassadeur alleen al bang voor moet zijn, is diep en diep triest.
http://thehill.com/policy(...)sgender-military-banquote:An appeals court on Wednesday ruled against the Trump administration and upheld a court order stalling a ban on transgender individuals serving in the military.
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit blocked implementation of the ban, which was first announced by President Trump last year. The court's move enables transgender people to continue enlisting in the military.
Voor de mensen die zich de transgenderban, zo'n 4 miljoen nieuwscycli terug, nog herinneren.
twitter:kylegriffin1 twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 22:40:12
quote:A federal judge on Wednesday denied a request by President Donald Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort to suppress evidence seized by the FBI from his home as part of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s ongoing probe into whether Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign colluded with Russia.
Manafort’s lawyers had sought to limit the scope of evidence that prosecutors can rely on for his upcoming September trial in Washington, D.C., claiming that the search warrant was overly broad and unconstitutional.
“Given the nature of the investigation, the warrant was not too broad in scope,” wrote Judge Amy Berman Jackson for the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia in her ruling.
Wednesday’s decision marks the latest in a string of setbacks for Manafort, who is facing two criminal trials in Washington and neighboring Alexandria, Va. in connection with lobbying work he performed for the pro-Russia Ukrainian government.
His Virginia trial is slated to begin next week, though his lawyers are seeking to delay it and will argue for the delay in a hearing on July 23 before Judge T.S. Ellis for the Eastern District of Virginia.
Between the two cases, he faces a slew of charges ranging from bank and tax fraud, to conspiring to launder money and failing to register as a foreign agent for Ukraine.
He is currently being held in an Alexandria jail, after Jackson revoked his bail after prosecutors filed new charges alleging he was trying to tamper with witnesses while under house arrest.
twitter:SethAbramson twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 01:47:09
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twitter:ZoeTillman twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 23:36:19Govt has provided exhibits shown today at Maria Butina's hearing — handwritten list referring to Russian FSB, photo of Butina at a restaurant with an expelled Russian diplomat, and Butina at the Capitol on Inauguration Day. Prev: https://t.co/1TRABDBimV https://t.co/7E8gW6ypRo reageer retweet
twitter:NatashaBertrand twitterde op woensdag 18-07-2018 om 23:39:13
Putin wel vermoed ik, die houdt vandaag een speech over de 'summit'.
As Russians describe ‘verbal agreements’ at summit, U.S. officials scramble for clarity
quote:Two days after President Trump’s summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Russian officials offered a string of assertions about what the two leaders had achieved.
“Important verbal agreements” were reached at the Helsinki meeting, Russia’s ambassador to the United States, Anatoly Antonov, told reporters in Moscow Wednesday, including preservation of the New Start and INF agreements, major bilateral arms control treaties whose futures have been in question. Antonov also said that Putin had made “specific and interesting proposals to Washington” on how the two countries could cooperate on Syria.
But officials at the most senior levels across the U.S. military, scrambling since Monday to determine what Trump may have agreed to on national security issues in Helsinki, had little to no information Wednesday.
At the Pentagon, as press officers remained unable to answer media questions about how the summit might impact the military, the paucity of information exposed an awkward gap in internal administration communications. The uncertainty surrounding Moscow’s suggestion of some sort of new arrangement or proposal regarding Syria, in particular, was striking because Gen. Joseph Votel, who heads U.S. Central Command, is scheduled to brief reporters on Syria and other matters Thursday.
Current and former officials said it’s not unusual for it to take at least several days for aides to finalize and distribute internal memos documenting high-level conversations. Adding to the delay in the case of Trump’s Russia summit is the fact that the president’s longest encounter with Putin, a two hour-plus session, included no other officials or note-takers, just interpreters.SPOILERTrump continued to praise his private meeting with Putin and an expanded lunch with aides as a “tremendous success” and tweeted a promise of “big results,” but State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said the administration was “assessing . . . three takeaways,” which she characterized as “modest.” They were the establishment of separate working groups of business leaders and foreign policy experts, and follow-up meetings between the national security council staffs of both countries.
White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders listed a number of topics that had been discussed, including “Syrian humanitarian aid, Iran’s nuclear ambition, Israeli security, North Korean denuclearization, Ukraine and the occupation of Crimea, reducing Russian and U.S. nuclear arsenals, and of course your favorite topic, Russia’s interference in our elections.”
But while Trump told lawmakers this week that he and Putin had made “significant progress toward addressing” these issues and more, neither Sanders nor any other U.S. official from Trump on down has offered specifics on what was accomplished on those subjects beyond what she called “the beginning of a dialogue with Russia.”
Asked about calls from congressional Democrats for testimony from the U.S. interpreter, Sanders said it was a question for the State Department. Nauert said that there was no precedent for such a demand and that there had been “no formal request” for such an appearance. “Overall, as a general matter,” she said, “we always seek to work with Congress, and that’s all I have on this, okay?”
Some military officials, accustomed a year and a half into the Trump administration to a decision-making process that is far less structured than it was under President Barack Obama, appeared unfazed by the lack of clarity. Unlike Obama, who oversaw a national security process that was famously meticulous and often slow, Trump has presided over a more fluid, less formally deliberative system.
Few if any top-level national security meetings, for example, have been held this spring following the administration’s attack on Syrian military facilities in April, according to officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. That shift, while welcome by those frustrated by the pace of decision-making under Obama, may provide top military officials less regular access to their commander in chief and fewer opportunities to influence the policy process.
Defense Secretary Jim Mattis did not attend Wednesday’s Cabinet meeting with Trump and has not appeared in public this week or commented on the summit.
Nonmilitary officials who were provided minimal, indirect readouts expressed confidence that no agreement had been struck with Putin on Syria, and that Trump — who early this year expressed a desire to withdraw all U.S. troops from that country — made clear to Putin that no American departure was imminent.
One idea under consideration, Antonov said, was a joint U.S.-Russian fight against terrorism in Syria. “It seemed to me, my impression was that the U.S. side listened . . . with interest,” he said. Russia has, like Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, defined all opponents of the Syrian government as “terrorists” and made similar proposals throughout the seven-year Syrian civil war.
The leaders also discussed an earlier agreement Russia had reached with Israel — based on a 1974 United Nations agreement — to keep all Iranian and proxy forces fighting on behalf of Assad’s military at least 50 miles from Syria’s border with the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights, and not to contest Israeli strikes against perceived threats from Iranian proxies inside Syria.
At the Russian Foreign Ministry, spokeswoman Marina Zakharova said that implementation of summit agreements had already begun. “A lot of what the president of the Russian Federation talked about is now being worked through,” she said. “Relevant instructions are being carried out, and diplomats are beginning to work on the outcomes.”
Richard Fontaine, a former U.S. official and adviser to Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) who now heads the Center for a New American Security, said the Helsinki summit illustrated Trump’s evolving management of national security affairs and his handling of advice from senior advisers such as White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Mattis.
“It seems to be certain that Trump is becoming more confident in his foreign policy instincts, and more likely to go with his gut,” Fontaine said. “He seems more comfortable now overruling them and doing his own thing.”
While a void remained in U.S. descriptions of the summit, Antonov called it “important, comprehensive, productive, and constructive.”
Putin is expected to speak about the summit in a speech Thursday.
Antonov said it was “very bitter” to hear the intense criticism in the United States of the Helsinki meeting. He cited Trump’s reference to investigations of Russian election interference as a “witch hunt,” and said Russia was “a hostage to the domestic political battle” in the United States.
“When I return from Moscow, I will have the very clear-cut and lucid determination to go knock on every door at the State Department and the National Security Council to understand what we can do together in order to realize the agreements, the ideas, that the two presidents supported,” Antonov said.
“Even in talking with you now, I am afraid to say something positive about the American president,” he said, “because when American journalists or policymakers read my interview, they’ll say Russia is again meddling and helping Donald Trump.”
twitter:kylegriffin1 twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 03:00:00
How Trump’s tariffs on Mexico are taking jobs from U.S. workers
quote:When a Mexican company bought Mid Continent Nail Corp. in 2012, workers at the factory here feared it was the beginning of the end. Their jobs, they suspected, would be given to lower-paid workers in Mexico, more casualties of the hollowing out of U.S. manufacturing driven in part by an embrace of global trade.
Instead, Mid Continent’s factory has doubled in size since Deacero’s purchase. The company, facing fewer restrictions on steel exports after the North American Free Trade Agreement, shipped steel into Missouri, willing to pay skilled workers more to take advantage of cheaper energy costs in the United States and a location that allowed swift delivery to U.S. customers.
But President Trump has put 25 percent tariffs on steel imports, bumping production costs and prompting Deacero to reconsider this arrangement. With Mid Continent charging more for nails, orders are down 70 percent from this time a year ago despite a booming construction industry. Company officials say that without relief, the Missouri plant could be out of business by Labor Day — or that remaining production could move to Mexico or another country.
And so trade restrictions aimed at preventing U.S. jobs from heading to Mexico and elsewhere have instead hampered a Mexican company’s multimillion-dollar effort to create jobs in the United States — an unintended consequence of Trump’s trade war that demonstrates the difficulty of attacking trading partners without hurting workers at home.
The layoffs have already begun. The company now employs fewer than 400 workers, down from about 500 before the tariffs took effect last month. Temporary contract workers have been let go. Some permanent workers have left for other jobs, in anticipation of a new wave of employment losses or the possible shuttering of the plant.
“We’re in a situation where we’re fighting against our own country,” said Chris Pratt, operations general manager at Mid Continent. “It seems like a battle we shouldn’t be having to fight.”SPOILERDeacero is trying to decide what it will do next. For now, it is using the steel it once exported to the United States in production facilities in Mexico, which make wire products for the domestic market. But the future remains hazy.
“Obviously, moving nail production to Mexico or another country is a possibility, but it is a bad alternative. Mid Continent does not want to move and is not planning to do so,” said company spokesman Jim Glassman. “The workers there continue to hope and expect that President Trump will save their jobs.”
Philip Bennett, 37, a machine repairman at Mid Continent, appeared close to tears as he talked about his 5-year-old daughter, Aubree, who has a congenital heart condition that has required multiple surgeries. He has health insurance through Mid Continent that covers her.
“There’s a lot of good things that he is doing. But he’s affecting me now, and I don’t appreciate it,” Bennett, a Trump supporter, said of the president.
“I mean, I don’t expect him to come down here,” he added. “It’d be nice — and see what he’s affecting, and see the people he’s hurting.”
But while workers in Missouri fear additional layoffs, not a single Mexican employee has been fired.
“The strength of the domestic market [in Mexico] has helped us,” Luis Leal, Deacero’s vice president of trade, said in a phone interview from the company’s headquarters in Monterrey, Mexico.
Trump imposed tariffs on steel and aluminum imports June 1 by invoking a rarely used provision that permits the president to swiftly penalize imports on the grounds of national security. Combined with broader actions aimed at Mexico, Canada, the European Union, China and other trading partners, the tariffs represent a fulfillment of Trump’s campaign promises to, in the president’s view, rescue U.S. workers from what he termed the “American carnage” wrought by international trade deals.
While the 25 percent tax on steel imports has helped the domestic steel industry — the Commerce Department noted in a statement that several domestic steel plants have re-opened or expanded — it also raised costs for U.S. firms. Mid Continent used to sell a box of 50 nails for $27. Now, it tacks on $5.50 to cover the cost of the tariff, company officials said.
Firms can apply to Commerce for waivers from the steel and aluminum tariffs if they can show that the products they seek to import cannot be obtained in the United States in sufficient quantity or quality.
The process for getting those exclusions has been shambolic. Only after the tariffs were imposed in June did the agency begin training the roughly 30 evaluators who must review at least 21,000 relief petitions
Commerce said it would take a next step in reviewing the company’s application for exemptions by the end of this week, but the company still faces more hurdles before getting a final verdict.
The tariffs’ effects on Mid-Continent and Deacero demonstrates why economists broadly say protectionism can do more to damage the economy than to grow it. And experts say Trump’s trade policy risks dampening foreign investment in the United States, as firms hesitate to spend amid uncertainty about future trade rules.
Between 2005 and 2016, Mexican foreign direct investment in the United States quadrupled to $17 billion — financing that supported more than 123,000 American jobs.
The examples are visible across the United States, even if Americans don’t always realize when they are purchasing a Mexican product. Mexico’s CEMEX is now one of the largest cement companies in the United States. Grupo Electra owns Advance America, the biggest payday-loan company in the United States. Mexican baked goods company Bimbo now produces some of the United States’ most recognizable products, including Sara Lee apple pie and Entenmann’s muffins, and employs more than 20,000 people.
Those investments were driven by NAFTA, as well was by a liberalizing Mexican economy that prompted its entrepreneurs to look across the border for business opportunities.
Trump has repeatedly threatened to withdraw from NAFTA, and his administration is in negotiations with officials from Mexico and Canada to reorder the 1994 trade agreement.
“I think the last year and a half has been a shock,” said Andrew Selee, president of the Migration Policy Institute and author of a book about U.S.-Mexico relations. “I think the assumption was that, with NAFTA, this was an increasingly seamless economic zone that would continue on.”
As it waits to hear about exemptions, Mid Continent has found itself, unexpectedly and at times uncomfortably, at the center of a political fight over Trump’s trade war.
While other, larger companies such as Harley Davidson and General Motors issued warnings about upcoming moves, Mid Continent was among the first to cut jobs. And the firm’s executives have become part of a complex brew of trade policies and electoral politics.
Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), facing a tough reelection race in a state Trump won by 19 percent percentage points in 2016, seized on the company’s predicament, interrogating Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross in a hearing on Capitol Hill last month. The next week, she was trailed by media outlets as she toured the company’s facilities despite blistering heat.
Under normal circumstances, the company would have ceased operating as the heat index soared above 105 degrees. Because McCaskill was expected, the workers kept working, as supervisors rotated them in and out of an air-conditioned break room. McCaskill, clad in a reflective safety vest, declared that “it’s time to end this reckless trade war.”
As McCaskill made the company a cause in her campaign to stay in office in Trump country, GOP lawmakers kept a lower profile on the issue as they attempted to square their support for Trump with the economic threats from tariffs that had begun to hit home.
A spokeswoman for McCaskill’s GOP opponent, Josh Hawley, the state attorney general, said in a statement that Hawley “supports the president’s goal to get better trade deals and stop trade cheaters, like China,” but that Mid Continent “makes a good case for an exemption and we have spoken to the White House about it.”
Amid the debate about Trump’s tariffs, the company has come under new scrutiny as well.
For years, Mid Continent and Deacero have fought their own mini trade wars.
In its statement, Commerce noted Deacero has since 2009 faced accusations that it is “dumping” steel — a trade practice that involves undermining competitors by selling a product in a foreign country at a below-market price.
Glassman, the Mid Continent spokesman, said previous interactions between Commerce and Deacero were “utterly irrelevant” to the company’s request for an exclusion from the tariffs.
Mid Continent has also at times has asked for government intervention in dealing with foreign competition. The business has successfully filed trade cases against countries around the globe including China, Korea, Oman and Malaysia accusing them of “dumping” nails into the U.S. at below-market prices, according to company officials.
Now, one rival is objecting to Mid Continent’s bid for an exemption from the new tariffs.
Roger Aurelio, who runs a much smaller nail sales business in Griffith, Ind.,that resells nails from Mid Continent and other manufacturers, said Mid Continent has told only part of the story in its media blitz. Aurelio argued that Mid Continent has not been transparent about the fact that despite being located in Missouri, it is a Mexican-owned company, and that its products stamped “Made in America” are manufactured largely from Mexican steel.
Aurelio also contends that if Mid Continent is granted exclusions to continue to import from Mexico, that would put it on an unfair footing compared with its competitors.
Mid Continent, Aurelio argued, is trying to “get a free situation under the tariffs when it’s not even United States-owned.”
Mid Continent officials countered that Aurelio, who sells nails but does not manufacture them, benefits from the tariffs that are burdening Mid Continent because he gets higher prices for his nails. And a company spokesman strongly disputed Aurelio’s assertion that it is in any way denying its ties with Mexico.
“Mexican investors bought Mid Continent in 2012, made major capital investments and spent large sums fighting unfair Asian competition,” Glassman said. “The result is the largest U.S. nail manufacturer with — before June 1, anyway — more than 500 employees, nearly double the workforce of five years ago. These workers are Americans. They have American families. If they lose their jobs, those jobs will be American jobs.”
Meanwhile, Mid Continent’s prominence put company officials in the spotlight, and some became targets of harassment from foes of Trump. Pratt, who declined to say who he supported for president, said he has begun receiving dozens of calls a day from all over the country questioning his politics.
The messages, Pratt said, were to the effect of: “You voted for Trump, how do you like him now?”
From the Start, Trump Has Muddied a Clear Message: Putin Interfered
quote:Two weeks before his inauguration, Donald J. Trump was shown highly classified intelligence indicating that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia had personally ordered complex cyberattacks to sway the 2016 American election.
The evidence included texts and emails from Russian military officers and information gleaned from a top-secret source close to Mr. Putin, who had described to the C.I.A. how the Kremlin decided to execute its campaign of hacking and disinformation.
Mr. Trump sounded grudgingly convinced, according to several people who attended the intelligence briefing. But ever since, Mr. Trump has tried to cloud the very clear findings that he received on Jan. 6, 2017, which his own intelligence leaders have unanimously endorsed.
The shifting narrative underscores the degree to which Mr. Trump regularly picks and chooses intelligence to suit his political purposes. That has never been more clear than this week.SPOILEROn Monday, standing next to the Russian president in Helsinki, Finland, Mr. Trump said he accepted Mr. Putin’s denial of Russian election intrusions. By Tuesday, faced with a bipartisan political outcry, Mr. Trump sought to walk back his words and sided with his intelligence agencies.
On Wednesday, when a reporter asked, “Is Russia still targeting the U.S.?” Mr. Trump shot back, “No” — directly contradicting statements made only days earlier by his director of national intelligence, Dan Coats, who was sitting a few chairs away in the Cabinet Room. (The White House later said he was responding to a different question.)
Hours later, in a CBS News interview, Mr. Trump seemed to reverse course again. He blamed Mr. Putin personally, but only indirectly, for the election interference by Russia, “because he’s in charge of the country.”
In the run-up to this week’s ducking and weaving, Mr. Trump has done all he can to suggest other possible explanations for the hacks into the American political system. His fear, according to one of his closest aides who spoke on the condition of anonymity, is that any admission of even an unsuccessful Russian attempt to influence the 2016 vote raises questions about the legitimacy of his presidency.
The Jan. 6, 2017, meeting, held at Trump Tower, was a prime example. He was briefed that day by John O. Brennan, the C.I.A. director; James R. Clapper Jr., the director of national intelligence; and Adm. Michael S. Rogers, the director of the National Security Agency and the commander of United States Cyber Command.
The F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, was also there; after the formal briefing, he privately told Mr. Trump about the “Steele dossier.” That report, by a former British intelligence officer, included uncorroborated salacious stories of Mr. Trump’s activities during a visit to Moscow, which he denied.
According to nearly a dozen people who either attended the meeting with the president-elect or were later briefed on it, the four primary intelligence officials described the streams of intelligence that convinced them of Mr. Putin’s role in the election interference.
They included stolen emails from the Democratic National Committee that had been seen in Russian military intelligence networks by the British, Dutch and American intelligence services. Officers of the Russian intelligence agency formerly known as the G.R.U. had plotted with groups like WikiLeaks on how to release the email stash.
And ultimately, several human sources had confirmed Mr. Putin’s own role.
That included one particularly valuable source, who was considered so sensitive that Mr. Brennan had declined to refer to it in any way in the Presidential Daily Brief during the final months of the Obama administration, as the Russia investigation intensified.
Instead, to keep the information from being shared widely, Mr. Brennan sent reports from the source to Mr. Obama and a small group of top national security aides in a separate, white envelope to assure its security.
Mr. Trump and his aides were also given other reasons during the briefing to believe that Russia was behind the D.N.C. hacks.
The same Russian groups had been involved in cyberattacks on the State Department and White House unclassified email systems in 2014 and 2015, and in an attack on the Joint Chiefs of Staff. They had aggressively fought the N.S.A. against being ejected from the White House system, engaging in what the deputy director of the agency later called “hand-to-hand combat” to dig in.
The pattern of the D.N.C. hacks, and the theft of emails from John D. Podesta, Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, fit the same pattern.
After the briefings, Mr. Trump issued a statement later that day that sought to spread the blame for the meddling. He said “Russia, China and other countries, outside groups and countries” were launching cyberattacks against American government, businesses and political organizations — including the D.N.C.
Still, Mr. Trump said in his statement, “there was absolutely no effect on the outcome of the election.”
Mr. Brennan later told Congress that he had no doubt where the attacks were coming from.
“I was convinced in the summer that the Russians were trying to interfere in the election,” he said in testimony in May 2017. “And they were very aggressive.”
For Mr. Trump, the messengers were as much a part of the problem as the message they delivered.
Mr. Brennan and Mr. Clapper were both Obama administration appointees who left the government the day Mr. Trump was inaugurated. The new president soon took to portraying them as political hacks who had warped the intelligence to provide Democrats with an excuse for Mrs. Clinton’s loss in the election.
Mr. Comey fared little better. He was fired in May 2017 after refusing to pledge his loyalty to Mr. Trump and pushing forward on the federal investigation into whether the Trump campaign had cooperated with Russia’s election interference.
Only Admiral Rogers, who retired this past May, was extended in office by Mr. Trump. (He, too, told Congress that he thought the evidence of Russian interference was incontrovertible.)
And the evidence suggests Russia continues to be very aggressive in its meddling.
In March, the Department of Homeland Security declared that Russia was targeting the American electric power grid, continuing to riddle it with malware that could be used to manipulate or shut down critical control systems. Intelligence officials have described it to Congress as a chief threat to American security.
Just last week, Mr. Coats said that current cyberthreats were “blinking red” and called Russia the “most aggressive foreign actor, no question.”
“And they continue their efforts to undermine our democracy,” he said.
Christopher A. Wray, the F.B.I. director, also stood firm.
“The intelligence community’s assessment has not changed,” Mr. Wray said on Wednesday at the Aspen Security Forum. “My view has not changed, which is that Russia attempted to interfere with the last election and continues to engage in malign influence operations to this day.”
The Russian efforts are “aimed at sowing discord and divisiveness in this country,” he continued. “We haven’t yet seen an effort to target specific election infrastructure this time. We could be just a moment away from the next level.”
“It’s a threat we need to take extremely seriously and respond to with fierce determination and focus.”
Almost as soon as he took office, Mr. Trump began casting doubts on the intelligence on Russia’s election interference, though never taking issue with its specifics.
He dismissed it broadly as a fabrication by Democrats and part of a “witch hunt” against him. He raised unrelated issues, including the state of investigations into Mrs. Clinton’s home computer server, to distract attention from the central question of Russia’s role — and who, if anyone, in Mr. Trump’s immediate orbit may have worked with them.
In July 2017, just after meeting Mr. Putin for the first time, Mr. Trump told a New York Times reporter that the Russian president had made a persuasive case that Moscow’s cyberskills were so good that the government’s hackers would never have been caught. Therefore, Mr. Trump recounted from his conversation with Mr. Putin, Russia must not have been responsible.
Since then, Mr. Trump has routinely disparaged the intelligence about the Russian election interference. Under public pressure — as he was after his statements in Helsinki on Monday — he has periodically retreated. But even then, he has expressed confidence in his intelligence briefers, not in the content of their findings.
That is what happened again this week, twice.
Mr. Trump’s statement in Helsinki led Mr. Coats to reaffirm, in a statement he deliberately did not get cleared at the White House, that American intelligence agencies had no doubt that Russia was behind the 2016 hack.
That contributed to Mr. Trump’s decision on Tuesday to say that he had misspoken one word, and that he did believe Russia had interfered — although he also veered off script to declare: “Could be other people also. A lot of people out there.”
Non't dan toch?quote:
Waar komt deze Montenegro shit ineens vandaan?
Normaal van Fox, maar nu zit hij bij Fox, dus ik heb geen idee.quote:
Trump: Defending NATO ally Montenegro could mean ‘World War III’
Waar komt deze Montenegro shit ineens vandaan?
Blijkbaar zijn de Montenegrijnen nog steeds erg pissig over dit incident:quote:
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Normaal van Fox, maar nu zit hij bij Fox, dus ik heb geen idee.
Russia plotted to overthrow Montenegro's government by assassinating Prime Minister Milo Djukanovic last year, according to senior Whitehall sources
Can't really blame them. Dit heb ik blijkbaar helemaal gemist 2 jaar geleden. Best ernstig eigenlijk.
Motief voor Rusland om Montenegro binnen zijn invloedssfeer te houden is de toegang tot de Adriatische en dus Middellandse Zee. De enige optie die ze nu hebben is de Bosporus en de Dardanellen.
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Wordt gespeculeerd dat Poetin er iets over heeft gezegd tijdens de ontmoeting met Trump.quote:
Trump: Defending NATO ally Montenegro could mean ‘World War III’
Waar komt deze Montenegro shit ineens vandaan?
Wellicht dat Poetin de suggestie heeft gewekt dat Montenegro wel eens Rusland zou kunnen aanvallen en dat de Amerikanen dan te hulp moeten schieten, resulterend in WOIII. The Donald is immers makkelijk te kneden.
En laten we wel wezen: het woord 'Montenegro' had hij voor deze week nog nooit in de mond genomen.
Puppet master Poetin at play.
#hoedanquote:
Wellicht dat Poetin de suggestie heeft gewekt dat Montenegro wel eens Rusland zou kunnen aanvallen en dat de Amerikanen dan te hulp moeten schieten, resulterend in WOIII. The Donald is immers makkelijk te kneden.
Montenegro heeft toch amper een leger? Misschien een paar duizend man en dan nog zitten er nogal wat landjes tussen voor je bij Rusland bent.
Denk ook niet dat Montenegro onwijze ICBM's heeft.
Daarbij opgemerkt dat Obama wél een aantal bipartisan politieke besluiten heeft kunnen ritselen met de republikeinen. Ik kan me voorstellen dat "de andere partij" sceptisch staat tegenover een voorstel van een zittende partij, maar de wantrouwen en polarisatie die de afgelopen 2 jaar door Trump is veroorzaakt zal het politieke beeld decennia lang beïnvloeden. De afgelopen jaren hebben de republikeinen het voortouw gehad (ook onder Obama) Het lijkt er op dat de schade die Trump heeft veroorzaakt bij de GOP moeilijk is te herstellen, Kiezers zien een machteloze partij die ondanks een meerderheid in huis en senaat én een zittende president eigenlijk niks meer kan doen dan aan de merkwaardige grollen van Trump toe te geven. Dan komt diezelfde kiezer snel op andere keuzes. Democratisch ofwel independent. Deze generatie GOP is reddeloos verloren omdat ze geen sturing hebben.quote:
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Klopt gedeeltelijk, alleen heb je in de senaat vaak 60 stemmen nodig om iets in stemming te brengen en uiteraard werken de democraten niet mee.
Maar inderdaad ook de republikeinen zijn verdeeld.
Kom op man, je kunt die Trump toch alles wijsmaken? Ik stel mij zo voor dat Poetin dat uitstekend weet te verkopen.quote:
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#hoedan
Montenegro heeft toch amper een leger? Misschien een paar duizend man en dan nog zitten er nogal wat landjes tussen voor je bij Rusland bent.
Denk ook niet dat Montenegro onwijze ICBM's heeft.
Trump is een erg belezen man; hij heeft natuurlijk net een uitgebreide analyse van de Eerste Balkan-oorlog gelezen.quote:
Trump: Defending NATO ally Montenegro could mean ‘World War III’
Waar komt deze Montenegro shit ineens vandaan?
Hij begon zelf met een privé oorlogje en duwde de MP van Montenegro aan de kant tijdens een fotosessie voor de Nato overleg in opdracht van Putin.quote:
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Trump is een erg belezen man; hij heeft natuurlijk net een uitgebreide analyse van de Eerste Balkan-oorlog gelezen.
niet verkopen: sommeren.quote:
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Kom op man, je kunt die Trump toch alles wijsmaken? Ik stel mij zo voor dat Poetin dat uitstekend weet te verkopen.
Dit is best wel groot nieuws. En als je het combineert met de nieuwskop FBI director says Russian influence efforts are ‘very active’, lijkt het er op dat de intelligentiediensten Trump nu écht zat zijn, en in de wereld willen gooien wat er werkelijk gaande is.quote:
Echt ongelooflijk dat Trump al die tijd de bevindingen van zijn veiligheidsdiensten in twijfel heeft getrokken
From the Start, Trump Has Muddied a Clear Message: Putin Interfered
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een dergelijke drieste actie zou ik zeker afraden. Beter is het voor de inlichtingendiensten om nu hun onvoorwaardelijke steun aan de Mueller probe te geven. Dus ook de CIA. Dit Onderzoek moet hoe dan ook ongestoord door kunnen gaan. De waarheid moet op tafel, hoe dan ook.quote:
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Dit is best wel groot nieuws. En als je het combineert met de nieuwskop FBI director says Russian influence efforts are ‘very active’, lijkt het er op dat de intelligentiediensten Trump nu écht zat zijn, en in de wereld willen gooien wat er werkelijk gaande is.
Welke actie bedoel je? Het is niet alsof de CIA en FBI een coupe gaan plegen (als je je aluhoedje niet op hebt tenminste). Ze zijn wél aan het breken met Trumps verhaal, en dat lijkt me meer dan prima.quote:
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een dergelijke drieste actie zou ik zeker afraden. Beter is het voor de inlichtingendiensten om nu Hun onvoorwaardelijke steun aan de Mueller probe te geven. Dus ook de CIA. Dit Onderzoek moet hoe dan ook ongestoord door kunnen gaan. De waarheid moet op tafel, hoe dan ook.
Alles in één keer op tafel gooien zou niet verstandig zijn. Dan bestaat de kans dat zowel de informant in gevaar komt en de verantwoordelijke de plaat poetst. tijdens de Helsinkitop hebben ze Maria Butina vastgezet. Een spion die nauwe banden heeft met de NRA. Die was eigenlijk al bezig een vlucht naar Rusland te boeken, dus ze waren hier op tijd bij. Muller heeft 12 Russen aangeklaagd op het moment dat Trump de 92 jarige Queen een kwartier liet wachten in de brandende zon. Timing is essentieel.quote:
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Welke actie bedoel je? Het is niet alsof de CIA en FBI een coupe gaan plegen (als je je aluhoedje niet op hebt tenminste). Ze zijn wél aan het breken met Trumps verhaal, en dat lijkt me meer dan prima.
Dacht dat het nooit meer goed ging komen nadat duidelijk was dat ze hebben gelogen en de wereld in weer een paar nutteloze oorlogen hebben gestort ten tijde van Bush.
De Fox talking points zijn nog waardelozer als ze uit de mond van een Hollander komen.quote:
Mooi om te zien dat het vertrouwen in de intelligence community weer volledig hersteld is.
Dacht dat het nooit meer goed ging komen nadat duidelijk was dat ze hebben gelogen en de wereld in weer een paar nutteloze oorlogen hebben gestort ten tijde van Bush.
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De Fox talking points zijn nog waardelozer als ze uit de mond van een Hollander komen.
True that.quote:
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De Fox talking points zijn nog waardelozer als ze uit de mond van een Hollander komen.
Trump kan het niet handelen ook, door bijvoorbeeld opeens poef WW 3 en Montenegro te blaten.
Wat Putin wel bereikt: totale chaos in de westerse wereld.
Hopelijk staan onze kant de betere schaakspelers.
Is dit serieus het nieuwe linkse stokpaardje om maar niet te hoeven luisteren en met je handen over je oren lalalalalala te blijven roepen?
Het is eigenlijk best treurig dat een president zó vaak zó duidelijk liegt, dat je eerder de intelligence agencies gaat geloven, vind je niet?quote:
Mooi om te zien dat het vertrouwen in de intelligence community weer volledig hersteld is.
Dacht dat het nooit meer goed ging komen nadat duidelijk was dat ze hebben gelogen en de wereld in weer een paar nutteloze oorlogen hebben gestort ten tijde van Bush.
Je kunt ook gewoon beiden niet gelovenquote:
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Het is eigenlijk best treurig dat een president zó vaak zó duidelijk liegt, dat je eerder de intelligence agencies gaat geloven, vind je niet?
Wel een mooie historie van argumenten om de invloed van Rusland te ontkennen.quote:
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De Fox talking points zijn nog waardeloze als ze uit de mond van een Hollander komen.
Het begon altijd met 'BNW, geen serieuze partij pakt dit op' toen de eerste berichten naar buiten kwamen, en toen er een paar belangrijke inlichtingendiensten stelden dat het Rusland was werd dat 'ja, maar dat zijn ze niet allemaal, dit is ook de kustwacht en dus niet relevant'. Inmiddels is elke relevante inlichtingendienst het er volledig over eens dat het Rusland was, en nu gaan we naar 'ja, maar die inlichtingendiensten zijn a priori niet te vertrouwen want vroeger'.
Er is echt maar een enkele persoon in de hele regering die de invloed van Rusland ontkent, en die staat inmiddels op een leugen of 3000 volgens de laatste tellingen, maar om de een of andere reden wordt dat nog serieuzer genomen.
Op een gegeven moment moet je ook gewoon kunnen zeggen van 'oke, ik had het fout, Rusland heeft inderdaad niet helemaal schone handen' zou ik zeggen. In plaats daarvan krijgen we vast iets over de DNC, waarschijnlijk dat de échte misdaad is hoe ze Bernie hebben behandeld.
Je kunt ook gewoon een afweging maken van wat waarschijnlijk is en wat niet. Maar dat is lastig, voor veel mensen, dus die moeten het voorgekauwd krijgen.quote:
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Je kunt ook gewoon beiden niet geloven
Dus je gelooft zowel niet dat Rusland het niet heeft gedaan als dat Rusland het wel heeft gedaan? Knap.quote:
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Je kunt ook gewoon beiden niet geloven
Al die verdomde linkse hippies die Trump maar tegenspreken.quote:Jeb Bush blasted the Trump administration on Wednesday for indicating it's considering an offer from Russian President Vladimir Putin to observe questioning of indicted Russians in exchange for allowing Russian authorities to question American citizens.
"Not dismissing this absurd request out of hand is an extraordinary sign of weakness by an American president," Bush tweeted.
en hoe noemen we dit soort mensen?quote:
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Dus je gelooft zowel niet dat Rusland het niet heeft gedaan als dat Rusland het wel heeft gedaan? Knap.
Dat is precies wat ik zeg.quote:
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Dus je gelooft zowel niet dat Rusland het niet heeft gedaan als dat Rusland het wel heeft gedaan? Knap.
Persoon A geloof ik niet, en Instantie B geloof ik niet. Dus dan hebben ze beiden gelijk en toch ook weer niet, ofzo.
Of, let op....
Wanneer Trump spreekt ga ik er al gelijk van uit dat het leugens zijn.
En wanneer de intelligence community iets beweert, geloof ik er ook geen drol van.
Zegt totaal niks over het feit WAAR ze over spreken.
Zelf twijfel ik er niet aan dat Rusland zich heeft gemengd in de verkiezingen, doen alle grote landen bij elkaar.
Dat er "collusion" zou zijn geloof ik dan weer helemaal niet.
Dat is logisch. Als ze beide een tegengestelde mening hebben over hetzelfde onderwerp en jij gelooft ze allebei per definitie niet geloof je ze immers ook allebei tegelijk. De ene niet geloven betekent immers dat je de ander wel moet geloven.quote:
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Dat is precies wat ik zeg.
Persoon A geloof ik niet, en Instantie B geloof ik niet. Dus dan hebben ze beiden gelijk en toch ook weer niet, ofzo.
Trump zegt dat de Russen niks gehackt hebben, maar die geloof je niet, dus hebben de Russen het volgens jou wel gehackt. De CIA zegt dat de Russen het gehackt hebben, maar die geloof je niet, dus hebben de Russen het volgens jou niet gehackt.
Dat is ook niet mijn gebrekkige logica, dat is de gebrekkige logica achter jouw post.
Dus dan geloof je wat de IC zegt, want die zeggen vooralsnog dat er inmenging in de verkiezingen zijn geweest, maar zijn nog aan het onderzoeken of er collusion is geweest.quote:
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Dat is precies wat ik zeg.
Persoon A geloof ik niet, en Instantie B geloof ik niet. Dus dan hebben ze beiden gelijk en toch ook weer niet, ofzo.
Of, let op....
Wanneer Trump spreekt ga ik er al gelijk van uit dat het leugens zijn.
En wanneer de intelligence community iets beweert, geloof ik er ook geen drol van.
Zegt totaal niks over het feit WAAR ze over spreken.
Zelf twijfel ik er niet aan dat Rusland zich heeft gemengd in de verkiezingen, doen alle grote landen bij elkaar.
Dat er "collusion" zou zijn geloof ik dan weer helemaal niet.
Zie, zo moeilijk is het niet
.Bush en Blair hebben herhaaldelijk aangegeven dat ze ook zonder info over WMD's Irak zouden hebben aangevallen. Het is makkelijk om naar de veiligheidsdiensten te wijzen, maar zij spelen slechts een beperkte rol in het Irak-verhaal. De neo-cons hadden besloten dat Irak aangevallen moest worden en het bewijs voor massavernietigingswapens werd er daarom met de haren bijgesleept.quote:
Mooi om te zien dat het vertrouwen in de intelligence community weer volledig hersteld is.
Dacht dat het nooit meer goed ging komen nadat duidelijk was dat ze hebben gelogen en de wereld in weer een paar nutteloze oorlogen hebben gestort ten tijde van Bush.
(Zie bv hier hoe de Bush regering omging met de info van de CIA: http://www.businessinside(...)ional=true&r=US&IR=T)
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Ook toen was het een republikeinse president met zijn ministers die de boel bij elkaar gelogen hebben. De ambtenaren hebben ze juist geadviseerd dat er geen WMDs waren.quote:
Mooi om te zien dat het vertrouwen in de intelligence community weer volledig hersteld is.
Dacht dat het nooit meer goed ging komen nadat duidelijk was dat ze hebben gelogen en de wereld in weer een paar nutteloze oorlogen hebben gestort ten tijde van Bush.
Niet dat ik verder overloop van vertrouwen voor deze organisaties, maar ze staan ruim hoger aangeschreven dan de moderne republikeinen.
Denk jij dat Trump zich heeft versproken en was jij het eens met wat hij met die verspreking wilde zeggen?quote:
"Alles waar ik het niet mee eens ben is een fox/rep/bla/etc talking point"
Is dit serieus het nieuwe linkse stokpaardje om maar niet te hoeven luisteren en met je handen over je oren lalalalalala te blijven roepen?
Dit is toch kansloos?quote:
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Dat is logisch. Als ze beide een tegengestelde mening hebben over hetzelfde onderwerp en jij gelooft ze allebei per definitie niet geloof je ze immers ook allebei tegelijk. De ene niet geloven betekent immers dat je de ander wel moet geloven.
Trump zegt dat de Russen niks gehackt hebben, maar die geloof je niet, dus hebben de Russen het volgens jou wel gehackt. De CIA zegt dat de Russen het gehackt hebben, maar die geloof je niet, dus hebben de Russen het volgens jou niet gehackt.
Dat is ook niet mijn gebrekkige logica, dat is de gebrekkige logica achter jouw post.
Als er twee partijen bewezen vaker hebben gelogen, is het dan vreemd om beide partijen dan gewoon niet te geloven, ongeacht hun uitspraken en of ze toevallig een keer gelijk hebben?
Dat er inmenging is geweest, geloof ik, zoals ik eerder heb gezegd.
Dat de DNC is gehackt door rusland, geloof ik dan weer niet. Intelligence community heeft geen toegang gehad tot de servers.
Maar zoals gezegd, een kansloze discussie. Gaat niet eens over inhoud, maar puur om een "GOTCHA" te scoren. Veel plezier ermee.
Ik laat wel nog een paar leuke vragen voor jullie achter.
Wat is er gebeurd met de eerste lichting indictments richting de russen? Is daar nog wat uit gekomen?
Dus je gelooft Trump, want die zegt dit ook. Zeg dat dan gewoon in plaats van doen alsof je de neutraliteit zelve bent.quote:
Dat de DNC is gehackt door rusland, geloof ik dan weer niet. Intelligence community heeft geen toegang gehad tot de servers.
Nu pak je net het ene punt waar dus wel aantoonbaar bewijs voor is en niet alleen van de inlichtingendiensten. Ze hebben de e-mails die zijn buitgemaakt tijdens de hack nota bene aan Wikileaks gegeven.quote:
Dat er inmenging is geweest, geloof ik, zoals ik eerder heb gezegd.
Dat de DNC is gehackt door rusland, geloof ik dan weer niet. Intelligence community heeft geen toegang gehad tot de servers.
Goeie genade, onder welke steen heb jij gelegen?quote:
Wat is er gebeurd met de eerste lichting indictments richting de russen? Is daar nog wat uit gekomen?
Lees vooral dit verhaal eens: https://www.thedailybeast(...)missing-nor-a-serverquote:
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Dat de DNC is gehackt door rusland, geloof ik dan weer niet. Intelligence community heeft geen toegang gehad tot de servers.
Refragmental, je doet elke keer hetzelfde: je stormt het topic binnen, roept wat talking points die je van de rechtse media in de VS heb gehoord, wordt gewezen op je ongelijk, je slaat wat om je heen, roept dan dat het altijd hetzelfde is in het Amerika-topic en dat je er genoeg van hebt en je bent weer weg. Word je daar nou zelf ook niet moe van?
Volgens mij zei Trump dat er GEEN inmenging was. Kan me vergissen.quote:
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Dus je gelooft Trump, want die zegt dit ook. Zeg dat dan gewoon in plaats van doen alsof je de neutraliteit zelve bent.
En wat zeg ik nou de hele tijd over inmenging?
Vermoeiend dit
Wat vermoeiend is, is dat je niet goed leest. Ludachrist heeft het over het server-verhaal.quote:
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Volgens mij zei Trump dat er GEEN inmenging was. Kan me vergissen.
En wat zeg ik nou de hele tijd over inmenging?
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Trump zegt dat hij niet gelooft dat de DNC gehackt is door Rusland. Jij gelooft Trump dus op dat punt.quote:
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Volgens mij zei Trump dat er GEEN inmenging was. Kan me vergissen.
En wat zeg ik nou de hele tijd over inmenging?
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Als ik het over inmenging wilde hebben had ik dat wel gequote. Je kan wel roepen dat je het met beide niet eens bent, want Trump zegt dat hamburgers vies zijn en jij vindt ze lekker terwijl de IC claimt dat Rusland wel gehackt heeft en jij bent het daar niet mee eens, maar dan neem je dus verschillende standpunten van beide partijen.
Je kan Trump domweg niet a priori nooit geloven én geloven dat de DNC niet door de Russen gehackt is. Trump zegt dat de DNC niet door de Russen gehackt is, dus geloof jij Trump op dat punt.
http://thehill.com/policy(...)d-dnc-servers-reportquote:
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Lees vooral dit verhaal eens: https://www.thedailybeast(...)missing-nor-a-server
Refragmental, je doet elke keer hetzelfde: je stormt het topic binnen, roept wat talking points die je van de rechtse media in de VS heb gehoord, wordt gewezen op je ongelijk, je slaat wat om je heen, roept dan dat het altijd hetzelfde is in het Amerika-topic en dat je er genoeg van hebt en je bent weer weg. Word je daar nou zelf ook niet moe van?
https://www.wired.com/201(...)acked-email-servers/
quote:In its statement, the FBI agreed with the DNC's implication that it had instead relied on data from Crowdstrike. But the Bureau points the finger for its lack of independent evaluation squarely at the DNC. According to the FBI official, "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier."
Vreemd, eerst had Lud het over "het".quote:
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Wat vermoeiend is, is dat je niet goed leest. Ludachrist heeft het over het server-verhaal.
"Dus je gelooft zowel niet dat Rusland het niet heeft gedaan als dat Rusland het wel heeft gedaan? Knap."
Dat halverwege de discussie de goalposts worden verschoven en het opeens specifiek over de servers gaat zodat hij zijn GOTCHA momentje kan hebben, tja.
In een onderzoek gebruik je een image van een server, zodat er niet met het oorspronkelijke materiaal gerommeld kan worden en er bewijs verdwijnt/verandert. Je zou daar tegenin kunnen brengen dat er dan misschien nog gemanipuleerd kan zijn met dat image, maar dat zou je als je kwaad wil doen ook altijd met het origineel kunnen doen. Volgens de experts van de FBI was het image voldoende voor het onderzoek.quote:
De voornaamste reden om Irak aan te vallen is het feit dat Saddam met zijn activiteiten in die regio niet wilde stoppen. Bush heeft gebruik gemaakt van halfslachtige intel en "van horen zeggen" feiten. Of Bush daadwerkelijk heeft geweten dat Saddan géén WMD had op niet maakt eigenlijk weinig uit. Saddam had zijn tegenstanders op gegeven moment wel op andere manieren uitgeschakeld. Bush gebruikte WMD als wig.quote:
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Bush en Blair hebben herhaaldelijk aangegeven dat ze ook zonder info over WMD's Irak zouden hebben aangevallen. Het is makkelijk om naar de veiligheidsdiensten te wijzen, maar zij spelen slechts een beperkte rol in het Irak-verhaal. De neo-cons hadden besloten dat Irak aangevallen moest worden en het bewijs voor massavernietigingswapens werd er daarom met de haren bijgesleept.
(Zie bv hier hoe de Bush regering omging met de info van de CIA: http://www.businessinside(...)ional=true&r=US&IR=T)
Ik vraag me af of op verkiezings servers ook gemanipuleerd is met de gegevens van expats die overzee wonen. De reden waarom, is iets wat vorige week met een Amerikaanse vriendin van me is gebeurd. Die werd vorige week opgebeld door een paniekerige moeder vanuit de States over een vermeende rekening voor het plaatsen van een transmissie en nieuwe airco in haar auto. ALLE persoonlijke gegevens van die vriendin (die hier al 25 jaar woont) stonden in die gefingeerde rekening. INCLUSIEF huidige adres in Nederland (2 jaar geleden verhuist) Op gegeven moment kon ze haar moeder geruststellen dat dit een poging tot bedrog was (ze heeft geen auto noch rijbewijs) Dit geeft te denken; HOE ZIJN DIE CRIMINELEN AAN DIE GEGEVENS GEKOMEN??quote:
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In een onderzoek gebruik je een image van een server, zodat er niet met het oorspronkelijke materiaal gerommeld kan worden en er bewijs verdwijnt/verandert. Je zou daar tegenin kunnen brengen dat er dan misschien nog gemanipuleerd kan zijn met dat image, maar dat zou je als je kwaad wil doen ook altijd met het origineel kunnen doen. Volgens de experts van de FBI was het image voldoende voor het onderzoek.
De enige keer dat deze informatie door mijn vriendin naar de States zijn doorgegeven is toen zij die verstrekte aan de Absentee Ballot Request and Voter Registration Services for All U.S. Voters in All States at Home and Abroad en die zou vermeend privé zijn en beveiligd.
WIE heeft die info laten lekken??? Als het een hacker is geweest dan kun je er gemakshalve van uit gaan dat die niet over individuele info gaat maar over een totaal pakket! Dus wie heeft hier in deze info zitten te graaien en er profijt aan gehad? De vriendin zei ook dat de ballot te laat in Nederland binnenkwam om nog aan de presidentsverkiezingen mee te doen.
erg verdacht allemaal.
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Is dit bericht volgens jou geloofwaardig of is dit nepnieuws?quote:
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Vreemd, eerst had Lud het over "het".
"Dus je gelooft zowel niet dat Rusland het niet heeft gedaan als dat Rusland het wel heeft gedaan? Knap."
Dat halverwege de discussie de goalposts worden verschoven en het opeens specifiek over de servers gaat zodat hij zijn GOTCHA momentje kan hebben, tja.
quote:WASHINGTON—Lauding President Trump for his invaluable role in the operation, Special Counsel Robert Mueller informed the public Wednesday that his so-called Russia investigation was in fact merely a cover for an elaborate sting to bring down the Clinton family’s child sex-slavery ring. “The Justice Department has finally been able to track down and arrest everyone associated with the Clinton Foundation’s unconscionable crimes, and it’s all thanks to President Trump agreeing to work undercover and play along with our fabricated accusations of Russian interference in the 2016 election,” said Mueller, explaining that after its agent Seth Rich was killed by the Clintons, the department recruited Trump to distract high-ranking Democrats with social media stunts, continuous denials of Russian involvement in U.S. politics, and glowing praise for Vladimir Putin. “Without the president’s help, we never would have been able to keep the guise of the ‘Russia investigation’ going long enough to launch our successful raids of Comet Ping Pong and secret locations in Haiti—efforts that ultimately brought the Clintons’ human-trafficking crimes to light. Thanks to the heroic actions of Donald Trump, we can all sleep a little more soundly tonight, knowing the world’s children are safe.” Mueller went on to thank the numerous media personalities and Republican lawmakers who first pointed out to federal investigators that the real problem lay in Hillary Clinton’s missing emails.
https://www.nytimes.com/2(...)ction-meddling-.htmlSPOILERFrom the Start, Trump Has Muddied a Clear Message: Putin Interfered
David E. Sanger and Matthew Rosenberg
July 19, 2018
James B. Comey, James R. Clapper Jr. and John O. Brennan at a Senate hearing on Russia’s election interference in January 2017.CreditAl Drago/The New York Times
By David E. Sanger and Matthew Rosenberg
WASHINGTON — Two weeks before his inauguration, Donald J. Trump was shown highly classified intelligence indicating that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia had personally ordered complex cyberattacks to sway the 2016 American election.
The evidence included texts and emails from Russian military officers and information gleaned from a top-secret source close to Mr. Putin, who had described to the C.I.A. how the Kremlin decided to execute its campaign of hacking and disinformation.
Mr. Trump sounded grudgingly convinced, according to several people who attended the intelligence briefing. But ever since, Mr. Trump has tried to cloud the very clear findings that he received on Jan. 6, 2017, which his own intelligence leaders have unanimously endorsed.
The shifting narrative underscores the degree to which Mr. Trump regularly picks and chooses intelligence to suit his political purposes. That has never been more clear than this week.
On Monday, standing next to the Russian president in Helsinki, Finland, Mr. Trump said he accepted Mr. Putin’s denial of Russian election intrusions. By Tuesday, faced with a bipartisan political outcry, Mr. Trump sought to walk back his words and sided with his intelligence agencies.
On Wednesday, when a reporter asked, “Is Russia still targeting the U.S.?” Mr. Trump shot back, “No” — directly contradicting statements made only days earlier by his director of national intelligence, Dan Coats, who was sitting a few chairs away in the Cabinet Room. (The White House later said he was responding to a different question.)
Hours later, in a CBS News interview, Mr. Trump seemed to reverse course again. He blamed Mr. Putin personally, but only indirectly, for the election interference by Russia, “because he’s in charge of the country.”
In the run-up to this week’s ducking and weaving, Mr. Trump has done all he can to suggest other possible explanations for the hacks into the American political system. His fear, according to one of his closest aides who spoke on the condition of anonymity, is that any admission of even an unsuccessful Russian attempt to influence the 2016 vote raises questions about the legitimacy of his presidency.
The Jan. 6, 2017, meeting, held at Trump Tower, was a prime example. He was briefed that day by John O. Brennan, the C.I.A. director; James R. Clapper Jr., the director of national intelligence; and Adm. Michael S. Rogers, the director of the National Security Agency and the commander of United States Cyber Command.
The F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, was also there; after the formal briefing, he privately told Mr. Trump about the “Steele dossier.” That report, by a former British intelligence officer, included uncorroborated salacious stories of Mr. Trump’s activities during a visit to Moscow, which he denied.
According to nearly a dozen people who either attended the meeting with the president-elect or were later briefed on it, the four primary intelligence officials described the streams of intelligence that convinced them of Mr. Putin’s role in the election interference.
President-elect Donald J. Trump on Jan. 6, 2017, the day he was briefed on cyberattacks designed to sway the 2016 American election.CreditSam Hodgson for The New York Times
They included stolen emails from the Democratic National Committee that had been seen in Russian military intelligence networks by the British, Dutch and American intelligence services. Officers of the Russian intelligence agency formerly known as the G.R.U. had plotted with groups like WikiLeaks on how to release the email stash.
And ultimately, several human sources had confirmed Mr. Putin’s own role.
That included one particularly valuable source, who was considered so sensitive that Mr. Brennan had declined to refer to it in any way in the Presidential Daily Brief during the final months of the Obama administration, as the Russia investigation intensified.
Instead, to keep the information from being shared widely, Mr. Brennan sent reports from the source to Mr. Obama and a small group of top national security aides in a separate, white envelope to assure its security.
Mr. Trump and his aides were also given other reasons during the briefing to believe that Russia was behind the D.N.C. hacks.
The same Russian groups had been involved in cyberattacks on the State Department and White House unclassified email systems in 2014 and 2015, and in an attack on the Joint Chiefs of Staff. They had aggressively fought the N.S.A. against being ejected from the White House system, engaging in what the deputy director of the agency later called “hand-to-hand combat” to dig in.
The pattern of the D.N.C. hacks, and the theft of emails from John D. Podesta, Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, fit the same pattern.
After the briefings, Mr. Trump issued a statement later that day that sought to spread the blame for the meddling. He said “Russia, China and other countries, outside groups and countries” were launching cyberattacks against American government, businesses and political organizations — including the D.N.C.
Still, Mr. Trump said in his statement, “there was absolutely no effect on the outcome of the election.”
Mr. Brennan later told Congress that he had no doubt where the attacks were coming from.
“I was convinced in the summer that the Russians were trying to interfere in the election,” he said in testimony in May 2017. “And they were very aggressive.”
For Mr. Trump, the messengers were as much a part of the problem as the message they delivered.
Mr. Brennan and Mr. Clapper were both Obama administration appointees who left the government the day Mr. Trump was inaugurated. The new president soon took to portraying them as political hacks who had warped the intelligence to provide Democrats with an excuse for Mrs. Clinton’s loss in the election.
Mr. Comey fared little better. He was fired in May 2017 after refusing to pledge his loyalty to Mr. Trump and pushing forward on the federal investigation into whether the Trump campaign had cooperated with Russia’s election interference.
Only Admiral Rogers, who retired this past May, was extended in office by Mr. Trump. (He, too, told Congress that he thought the evidence of Russian interference was incontrovertible.)
President Trump, meeting with Mr. Putin in Helsinki, Finland, on Monday, said he accepted Mr. Putin’s denial of Russian election intrusions.CreditDoug Mills/The New York Times
And the evidence suggests Russia continues to be very aggressive in its meddling.
In March, the Department of Homeland Security declared that Russia was targeting the American electric power grid, continuing to riddle it with malware that could be used to manipulate or shut down critical control systems. Intelligence officials have described it to Congress as a chief threat to American security.
Just last week, Mr. Coats said that current cyberthreats were “blinking red” and called Russia the “most aggressive foreign actor, no question.”
“And they continue their efforts to undermine our democracy,” he said.
Christopher A. Wray, the F.B.I. director, also stood firm.
“The intelligence community’s assessment has not changed,” Mr. Wray said on Wednesday at the Aspen Security Forum. “My view has not changed, which is that Russia attempted to interfere with the last election and continues to engage in malign influence operations to this day.”
The Russian efforts are “aimed at sowing discord and divisiveness in this country,” he continued. “We haven’t yet seen an effort to target specific election infrastructure this time. We could be just a moment away from the next level.”
“It’s a threat we need to take extremely seriously and respond to with fierce determination and focus.”
Almost as soon as he took office, Mr. Trump began casting doubts on the intelligence on Russia’s election interference, though never taking issue with its specifics.
He dismissed it broadly as a fabrication by Democrats and part of a “witch hunt” against him. He raised unrelated issues, including the state of investigations into Mrs. Clinton’s home computer server, to distract attention from the central question of Russia’s role — and who, if anyone, in Mr. Trump’s immediate orbit may have worked with them.
In July 2017, just after meeting Mr. Putin for the first time, Mr. Trump told a New York Times reporter that the Russian president had made a persuasive case that Moscow’s cyberskills were so good that the government’s hackers would never have been caught. Therefore, Mr. Trump recounted from his conversation with Mr. Putin, Russia must not have been responsible.
Since then, Mr. Trump has routinely disparaged the intelligence about the Russian election interference. Under public pressure — as he was after his statements in Helsinki on Monday — he has periodically retreated. But even then, he has expressed confidence in his intelligence briefers, not in the content of their findings.
That is what happened again this week, twice.
Mr. Trump’s statement in Helsinki led Mr. Coats to reaffirm, in a statement he deliberately did not get cleared at the White House, that American intelligence agencies had no doubt that Russia was behind the 2016 hack.
That contributed to Mr. Trump’s decision on Tuesday to say that he had misspoken one word, and that he did believe Russia had interfered — although he also veered off script to declare: “Could be other people also. A lot of people out there.”
Briljant. Thats the story.quote:
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Is dit bericht volgens jou geloofwaardig of is dit nepnieuws?
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Dat wij het zo onderschat / overschat hebben. Miskend.
Volgens Poetin dan..want Trump zegt er niet zoveel over.
Besproken onderwerpen:
Syrie: ze gaan samenwerken
Iran
Handel (dus indirect ook het opheffen van sancties)
Wat Poetin van Trump vindt.
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Ik kan alleen maar hopen dat de tolk een goed geheugen heeft en ze het verschil tussen Would en Wouldn't kent (maar dan in het Russisch)quote:
Hier de video van wat besproken en afgesproken is in Helsinki tussen Trump en Poetin.
Volgens Poetin dan..want Trump zegt er niet zoveel over.
Poetin zegt het netjes, maar de boodschap is duidelijk.
Waarom willen de Russen niet dat de tolk gehoord wordt? Wat voor reden zouden ze daarvoor hebben?
Trump moet zelf maar vertellen wat er besproken is. Daar ligt het probleem, bij Trump, niet bij de Russen.quote:
Russia slams proposal to question Trump summit translator
Waarom willen de Russen niet dat de tolk gehoord wordt? Wat voor reden zouden ze daarvoor hebben?
trump is "gevormd" door Putin, waar hij waarschijnlijk (Putin is een steenrijke oligarch die zijn land bestolen heeft) een stevige lening heeft openstaan. Trump had voor een fortuin aan belastinggeld ontdoken en moest dit natuurlijk ergens legaal kunnen wegsluizen, dus waarom niet bij een schimmige Russische bank? Er IS een reden waarom trump zijn belastingaangiftes niet vrij geeft! Met de ontsluiting van deze gegevens zou best wel eens het échte duveltje uit het doosje komen wippen.quote:
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Trump moet zelf maar vertellen wat er besproken is. Daar ligt het probleem, bij Trump, niet bij de Russen.
Hoe kan het dan dat de belastingaangiften van de ‘Liar in Chief” nog niet achterhaald zijn?
Omdat het vaak niet de ambtenaren zijn die lekken en Trump dit in dit geval niet zelf wil lekken.quote:
Als de fake news journalisten al zó veel achterhaald hebben via sources.
Hoe kan het dan dat de belastingaangiften van de ‘Liar in Chief” nog niet achterhaald zijn?
Niet met Mike Pompeo aan het roer.quote:
Zou de CIA niet onderhand bezig zijn met een black op om van Trump af te komen?
Dan hebben we geluk, die werkt daar namelijk niet meer.quote:
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Niet met Mike Pompeo aan het roer.
Tevens: nee, ik denk niet dat de CIA stiekem bezig is hun president af te zetten
.Hij zal wel weer met iets als Infrastructure Week komen. *gaap*twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 13:37:25
Nah "Really big jobs meeting today at the White House!" is een nieuwe serie op Fox.quote:Hij zal wel weer met iets als Infrastructure Week komen. *gaap*twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 13:37:25
leuk lijstje met bewijzen tegen Manafort...
Je rekent je rijk. Niets wijst daar op. Blue wave ook nog maar even afwachten. Pas als in 2020 met 70%-30% een DEM president wordt gekozen kunnen we die conclusie trekken.quote:
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Daarbij opgemerkt dat Obama wél een aantal bipartisan politieke besluiten heeft kunnen ritselen met de republikeinen. Ik kan me voorstellen dat "de andere partij" sceptisch staat tegenover een voorstel van een zittende partij, maar de wantrouwen en polarisatie die de afgelopen 2 jaar door Trump is veroorzaakt zal het politieke beeld decennia lang beïnvloeden. De afgelopen jaren hebben de republikeinen het voortouw gehad (ook onder Obama) Het lijkt er op dat de schade die Trump heeft veroorzaakt bij de GOP moeilijk is te herstellen, Kiezers zien een machteloze partij die ondanks een meerderheid in huis en senaat én een zittende president eigenlijk niks meer kan doen dan aan de merkwaardige grollen van Trump toe te geven. Dan komt diezelfde kiezer snel op andere keuzes. Democratisch ofwel independent. Deze generatie GOP is reddeloos verloren omdat ze geen sturing hebben.
Deze generatie GOP heeft juist extreme sturing: Fox & Sinclair.
Tja, jij komt met die opmerking over Irak weer. FBI/CIA gaven exact het juiste rapport hoor: Geen ICMB shit. Dat de Bush administratie daar over loog is niet hun schuld.quote:
"Alles waar ik het niet mee eens ben is een fox/rep/bla/etc talking point"
Is dit serieus het nieuwe linkse stokpaardje om maar niet te hoeven luisteren en met je handen over je oren lalalalalala te blijven roepen?
Meneer Manafort heeft een groot probleemquote:
https://www.scribd.com/do(...)-Manafort#from_embed
leuk lijstje met bewijzen tegen Manafort...
De Nederlandse inlichtingendienst keek live mee met de DNC hack...quote:
Dat er inmenging is geweest, geloof ik, zoals ik eerder heb gezegd.
Dat de DNC is gehackt door rusland, geloof ik dan weer niet. Intelligence community heeft geen toegang gehad tot de servers.
Of hij stuurt de complete intelligence community naar huis en neemt een sloot Russen aan om bij de FBI te komen werken. JOBS!quote:Hij zal wel weer met iets als Infrastructure Week komen. *gaap*twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 13:37:25
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Of hij stuurt de complete intelligence community naar huis en neemt een sloot Russen aan om bij de FBI te komen werken. JOBS!
Nu begint Trump zelf ook over die zogenaamde dreigende oorlog met Rusland. Als die dreiging bestaat waarom heeft ie het daar dan niet over gehad in z'n gesprekken met de pers?twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 12:59:26
twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 15:11:17
twitter:RepAdamSchiff twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 15:14:12BREAKING: @RepSwalwell and I just made a motion in House Intel Committee to subpoena the American interpreter during the summit — the only witness to Trump’s meeting with Putin. This is an extraordinary remedy, but Trump’s actions necessitate it.Republicans voted it down. reageer retweet
Republikeinen vrezen wat zo'n verhoor naar voren zal brengen.quote:twitter:RepAdamSchiff twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 15:14:12
Trump had toch wel executive privilege gebruikt. Zodra er iets negatiefs voor de VS naar buitenkomt (en dat gaat gebeuren) sta je als republikeins comitelid wel voor lul.quote:
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Republikeinen vrezen wat zo'n verhoor naar voren zal brengen.
Dan gooit hij er toch weer lekker wat tarieven tegenaan? Zoeken wij ondertussen wel alternatieve afzetmarkten.quote:Op donderdag 19 juli 2018 15:14 schreef Ulx het volgende:
twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 15:11:17
ka-BING denkt de EU.quote:
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Dan gooit hij er toch weer lekker wat tarieven tegenaan? Zoeken wij ondertussen wel alternatieve afzetmarkten.
Op die manier kun je de boetes van VW ook als misbruik zien.quote:twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 15:11:17
twitter:tedlieu twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 14:56:10
quote:twitter:tedlieu twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 14:56:10
Komen met een filmpje van januari 2017twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 15:35:21
House GOP refuses to renew election security funding as Democrats fume over Russian interference
quote:House Republicans plan to vote Thursday on a spending bill that excludes new money for election security grants to states, provoking a furious reaction from Democrats amid a national controversy over Russian election interference.
At issue is a grants program overseen by the federal Election Assistance Commission and aimed at helping states administer their elections and improve voting systems; Democrats want to continue grant funding through 2019, while Republicans say the program already has been fully funded.
Republicans argued strenuously in floor debate Wednesday that states had plenty of money from prior congressional allocations to spend on election improvements. But Democrats accused the Republicans of abetting President Trump in his refusal to take a hard line against Russian President Vladimir Putin at this week’s summit in Helsinki.
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En je weet gewoon dat iemand hier op gaat reageren dat het een groot complot is van democratische kant, met als bewijs een youtube-filmpje.quote:
https://www.scribd.com/do(...)-Manafort#from_embed
leuk lijstje met bewijzen tegen Manafort...
De term Manafucked is prima van toepassing, als je die lijst zo ziet.
quote:Trump says looks forward to second Putin meeting
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin blamed forces within the United States on Thursday for marring what they called the success of their first summit, with Trump saying he looked forward to their second meeting.
Trump, who has struggled to quiet a political uproar over his failure at Monday’s summit in Helsinki to confront Putin over Russia’s meddling in the 2016 U.S. election, renewed his fierce criticism of one of his favorite targets, the news media.
The Republican president accused the media of distorting comments in which he gave credence to Putin’s denials of election interference despite the conclusions of the American intelligence community about Moscow’s conduct.
“The Summit with Russia was a great success, except with the real enemy of the people, the Fake News Media,” Trump wrote on Twitter.
“I look forward to our second meeting so that we can start implementing some of the many things discussed, including stopping terrorism, security for Israel, nuclear proliferation, cyber attacks, trade, Ukraine, Middle East peace, North Korea and more,” Trump said.
Trump drew a barrage of criticism in the United States, including from lawmakers in both parties, after he refused to blame Putin for the election meddling. Putin has denied such interference.
The Republican president later said he had misspoken and accused “some people” of hating the fact that he got along with Putin.
In Moscow, Putin accused forces in the United States of trying to undermine the success of his meeting with Trump, but said the two leaders had begun to improve U.S.-Russia ties anyway.
Putin, speaking to Russian diplomats from around the world, said the Helsinki summit had been successful.
“It was successful overall and led to some useful agreements. Of course, let’s see how events will develop further,” he said, without disclosing the nature of the agreements he referred to.
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Dit soort dingen blijven toch wel redelijk dubieus hoor.quote:the real enemy of the people, the Fake News Media
Hoezo? Alleen maar omdat er net een redactie overhoop geschoten is?quote:
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Dit soort dingen blijven toch wel redelijk dubieus hoor.
Gezellig saampjes met een autocraat vol in de aanval tegen de vrije pers.quote:
En Republikeinen stonden erbij en keken ernaar. Gaat de goede kant op, daar in de VS.
twitter:CBSNews twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 13:03:41CBS NEWS POLL: Only a third of Americans approve of the way President Trump handled his summit in Helsinki with Russian President Vladimir Putin https://t.co/DPLkj9KuXg https://t.co/VBP4nS260w reageer retweet
McFaul calls it ‘lamentable’ that Trump might let Russia question him
quote:Former U.S. ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul on Thursday called it "lamentable" that the White House has refused to categorically reject a Russian government request to interrogate him and other Americans.
McFaul, the U.S. ambassador in Moscow under former President Barack Obama, is among the 11 Americans who the Kremlin has said it would like to interrogate in relation to financial crimes it says were committed by associates of Bill Browder, an American-born financier who has lobbied heavily against the Russian government...
Kan wel raden welke 30%.quote:[ afbeelding ]twitter:CBSNews twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 13:03:41
32% ... dat ligt iets onder zijn ondergrens op 538 (=36,5% approval ... zeg maar 1 stdfout weg ongeveer). Lijkt op echt de totale bodem voor hem, misschien tenzij er iets catastrofaals gebeurt, maar daarbuiten niet.quote:[ afbeelding ]twitter:CBSNews twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 13:03:41
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twitter:axios twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 13:14:22NEW POLL: Republicans overwhelmingly back Trump's handling of press conference with Putin — 85% see election interference as a distraction.https://t.co/CeEtGM0EH1 reageer retweet
Meh, Survey Monkey staat erg laag aangeschreven. D- op fivethirtyeight.quote:
Nog een poll ...[ afbeelding ]twitter:axios twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 13:14:22
twitter:FiveThirtyEight twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 18:55:00The over-under on the Supreme Court’s liberal minority cohort all continuing to draw breath is about five years. https://t.co/2GJw06MI51 https://t.co/DiBmaZcNCD reageer retweet
Tikkeltje morbide wel.
Wel opvallend dat ondanks dat Ginsburg en Breyer 6 jaar verschillen hun 50% punt maar 1 jaar verschilt. Tegelijk ook redelijk onvergeeflijk dat Ginsburg destijds onder Obama niet is afgezwaaid... op zich zou het natuurlijk zo moeten zijn dat het moment niet of nauwelijks uit zou moeten maken, maar met de huidige verdeeldheid en kleine marges wel een grove fout.quote:
Grafiekjesdag voor Appel.[ afbeelding ]twitter:FiveThirtyEight twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 18:55:00
Tikkeltje morbide wel.
'Only a third'. Daar schrik ik nog altijd van dat er zoveel debielen rondlopen.quote:[ afbeelding ]twitter:CBSNews twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 13:03:41
Yup, als Trump herkozen wordt zijn de democraten echt zwaar screwed. Dan wordt er naast zeker 2 superconservatieve scotussen ook nog eens tientallen extra conservatieve rechters in de lagere courts voor het leven benoemd. Het land wordt dan een soort Iran light, waar de progressieve meerderheid onderdrukt wordt door een minderheidsgroepering vol extreem religieuzen/conservatieven.quote:
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Wel opvallend dat ondanks dat Ginsburg en Breyer 6 jaar verschillen hun 50% punt maar 1 jaar verschilt. Tegelijk ook redelijk onvergeeflijk dat Ginsburg destijds onder Obama niet is afgezwaaid... op zich zou het natuurlijk zo moeten zijn dat het moment niet of nauwelijks uit zou moeten maken, maar met de huidige verdeeldheid en kleine marges wel een grove fout.
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Laatste week samengevat in een liedje.
Als dat gebeurt moet het nog maar blijken dat de republikeinen een meerderheid in de Senaat houden. Nu lijkt me dat vrij waarschijnlijk in 2018, maar 2020 biedt meer kansen.quote:
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Yup, als Trump herkozen wordt zijn de democraten echt zwaar screwed. Dan wordt er naast zeker 2 superconservatieve scotussen ook nog eens tientallen extra conservatieve rechters in de lagere courts voor het leven benoemd. Het land wordt dan een soort Iran light, waar de progressieve meerderheid onderdrukt wordt door een minderheidsgroepering vol extreem religieuzen/conservatieven.
Trump over de FED. Filmpje en link naar het artikel in de twot. Morgen het volledige interview.twitter:CNBCnow twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 19:06:01WATCH: President Trump lays into the Fed, telling CNBC that he's 'not thrilled' about interest rate hikes https://t.co/5JKBCYHe0g https://t.co/0AJjOX7NbK reageer retweet
Nu begint hij ook nog op Erdogan te lijkenquote:Trump over de FED. Filmpje en link naar het artikel in de twot. Morgen het volledige interview.twitter:CNBCnow twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 19:06:01
Hij is gewoon jaloers op types als Erdogan, Poetin en Xi. Dat zijn dictatortjes die lekker kunnen doen wat ze willen en dat wil Trump ook. Dus niet vreemd dat hij er op gaat lijken.quote:
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Nu begint hij ook nog op Erdogan te lijken
quote:Putin Tells Diplomats He Made Trump a New Offer on Ukraine at Their Summit (Bloomberg)
Vladimir Putin told Russian diplomats that he made a proposal to Donald Trump at their summit this week to hold a referendum to help resolve the conflict in eastern Ukraine, but agreed not to disclose the plan publicly so the U.S. president could consider it, according to two people who attended Putin’s closed-door speech on Thursday.
Details of what the two leaders discussed in their summit in Helsinki, Finland, remain scarce, with much of the description so far coming from Russia. While Putin portrayed the Ukraine offer as a sign he’s seeking to bring the four-year-old crisis to an end, a referendum is likely to be a hard sell with Ukraine and its backers in Europe, who remain committed to an 2015 European-brokered truce deal for the Donbas region, parts of which are controlled by Russian-backed separatists.
White House officials didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment. If Putin’s account of Trump’s reaction is accurate, it would suggest a more flexible approach than the U.S. has shown to date on the issue. At the Helsinki meeting, Trump also agreed to consider a Putin request to question the former U.S. ambassador to Moscow over U.S. campaign-finance violations that critics say Trump should have dismissed outright.
Putin gave his latest account of the meeting during at a conference with top Russian ambassadors and officials at the Foreign Ministry in Moscow, the people said, asking not to be identified discussing the president’s comments to the part of the session that was closed to the public. One of the people said that Trump had requested Putin not discuss the referendum idea at the press conference after the summit in order to give the U.S. leader time to mull it.
Referendum Proposal
Putin’s proposal would call for a vote conducted under international auspices by the residents of the separatist territories on their status, the people said. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov declined to comment on the details of what Putin said about Ukraine at the summit, saying only, “Some new ideas were discussed. They will be worked on.”
On Twitter Thursday, Trump called the summit “a great success” and cited Ukraine among the areas discussed, without providing details.
Putin’s proposal will alarm Ukrainian officials after Trump last week appeared to leave open the possibility of recognizing Russia’s 2014 annexation of Crimea, which triggered the crisis that led to fighting in eastern Ukraine’s Donetsk and Luhansk regions. Ukraine has offered the areas autonomy under its rule and backs the deployment of international peacekeepers in the region.
The U.S. and the European Union have repeatedly accused Russia of sending troops and weapons to support separatists in eastern Ukraine. Russia denies the charge, though Ukraine has captured a number of Russian soldiers and weaponry on its territory.
Putin pointed to a 2014 referendum, which wasn’t internationally recognized, that was held in Crimea to justify Russia’s annexation at his press conference with Trump after the summit in Helsinki on Monday. “We believe that we held a referendum in strict compliance with international law,” he said. “This case is closed for Russia.”
‘Farce’ Votes
Leaders of so-called rebel republics in Donetsk and Luhansk held referendums in May 2014 that declared independence. The votes were rejected as illegal by the U.S. and the European Union, while Ukraine called them a “farce.” Russia said at the time that it “respects” the votes, which showed as much as 96 percent support for breaking away from Ukraine.
Last year, Putin angered his Ukrainian counterpart, Petro Poroshenko, by signing a decree recognizing passports and other documents issued by the separatist governments in Luhansk and Donetsk, which have already declared the ruble their official currency.
If a referendum was held in rebel areas of eastern Ukraine, “the result would be the same as in Crimea,” which voted to join Russia, Igor Plotnitsky, who was then leader of the self-declared Luhansk People’s Republic, told Russian state-run RIA Novosti news service in March last year.
Het is dieptriest dat zo'n belangrijke functie benoemd wordt voor het leven. Maximaal 2 termijnen van 8 jaar lijkt me redelijker.quote:
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Wel opvallend dat ondanks dat Ginsburg en Breyer 6 jaar verschillen hun 50% punt maar 1 jaar verschilt. Tegelijk ook redelijk onvergeeflijk dat Ginsburg destijds onder Obama niet is afgezwaaid... op zich zou het natuurlijk zo moeten zijn dat het moment niet of nauwelijks uit zou moeten maken, maar met de huidige verdeeldheid en kleine marges wel een grove fout.
Fascisme is het woord dat je zoekt.quote:
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Dit soort dingen blijven toch wel redelijk dubieus hoor.
twitter:kylegriffin1 twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 21:30:54
twitter:McFaul twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 21:26:01
Geen termijnen zorgt ervoor dat je politiek onafhankelijker je werk kunt doen en niet schatplichtig gaat opereren. Zo zie je bv. bij de WTO dat rechters gewoonweg niet meer ok bevonden worden als ze linksom of rechtsom besluiten na een termijn (althans, als ik het goed begreep... enige slag om de arm).quote:
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Het is dieptriest dat zo'n belangrijke functie benoemd wordt voor het leven. Maximaal 2 termijnen van 8 jaar lijkt me redelijker.
Beter zou het denk ik zijn om
1) de procedure ernstig te veranderen, meer lijkend op hoe wij het hier kennen, waarbij meerdere voordrachten geïnitieerd worden door het Hooggerechtshof en dan door de verscheidene politieke apparaten gaat (kabinet, RvS en Tweede Kamer meen ik?)
2) meer rechters te hebben waarbij niet voor elke uitspraak iedereen erover hoeft te stemmen. Helemaal bij een gelijkblijvend systeem zouden swings veel kleiner worden als ze bv. 35 rechters zouden hebben.
Had je wat anders verwacht dan?quote:
Deze ontmoeting heeft echt heel veel schade aangericht.quote:
Mijn voorspelling voor de komende tijd:
Zodra men in het WH het ene brandje heeft gedoofd zegt Poetin iets wat besproken is (of zou zijn) en kan men weer gaan blussen.
En als het dan 'geblust' is komt de tweede ontmoeting om het weer aan te steken.quote:
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Deze ontmoeting heeft echt heel veel schade aangericht.
Mijn voorspelling voor de komende tijd:
Zodra men in het WH het ene brandje heeft gedoofd zegt Poetin iets wat besproken is (of zou zijn) en kan men weer gaan blussen.
dat doet hij al. Eerst diplomaten uitlevering vragen, toen Montenegro en nu Oekraïne.quote:
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Deze ontmoeting heeft echt heel veel schade aangericht.
Mijn voorspelling voor de komende tijd:
Zodra men in het WH het ene brandje heeft gedoofd zegt Poetin iets wat besproken is (of zou zijn) en kan men weer gaan blussen.
https://twitter.com/cnn/status/1020038755086872576?s=21
The White House says discussions are under way for Russian President Vladimir Putin to come to Washington this fall.
In the white house.quote:
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En als het dan 'geblust' is komt de tweede ontmoeting om het weer aan te steken.
Je verzint het niet.twitter:AP twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 22:02:18BREAKING: White House: Trump asked national security adviser to invite Putin to Washington for fall meeting, discussions underway. reageer retweet
Workers event. Trump in zijn element. Bullshitcijfers verkopen, *klap klap klap*, tevreden rondkijken, wat stokpaardjes over minority employment, *klap klap klap*.
En dan langs te tafel met mensen die beloven x aantal mensen aan te nemen terwijl die muts van een Ivanka er bij staat. Iedereen per stuk afgaan *klap klap klap*.
Vanaf 26:20 een stukje van het Security Forum waar Dan Coats lafjes vragen beantwoordt (dat forum is nu nog bezig)
Security Forum wat nu bezig ^^
Whut!??!?!??!quote:
Volgens deze tweet was dat ook Coats z'n reactie.quote:
Putin komt kijken of de midterms wel naar z'n zin verlopen, denk ik.twitter:NatashaBertrand twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 22:25:48
Ben benieuwd in welke kamer hij slaapt.quote:
Zal hard vallen bij veel Amerikanen. De Washington room etc. zijn allemaal vernoemd naar historische figuren daar.
twitter:SethAbramson twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 22:30:41
Ik heb dat stukje net gemist in de live stream, maar hij werd er later nog over gevraagd en toen hij iets in de zin van dat er beter naar een andere optie gekeken zou moeten worden.quote:
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Volgens deze tweet was dat ook Coats z'n reactie.Putin komt kijken of de midterms wel naar z'n zin verlopen, denk ik.twitter:NatashaBertrand twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 22:25:48
Coats is er niet blij mee in ieder geval.
Maar inderdaad, hij komt vast even inspecteren hoe zijn asset het doet. En als zo vaak vraag ik mij af of Trump echt zo dom is dat hij denkt dat het een goed idee is of dat Poetin het heeft afgedwongen.
Maar die tweede meeting zou al in de herfst zijn. Ik denk dat de meerderheid van de reps vanavond een dubbele borrel inschenken.
Het voelt alsof Trump zich beseft dat die 4 jaar toch niet gehaald gaan worden en "fuck it, ik kijk met hoe veel ik weg kan komen" heeft gezegd. Dit is gewoon te bizar om op een andere manier uit te leggen.quote:
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Ik heb dat stukje net gemist in de live stream, maar hij werd er later nog over gevraagd en toen hij iets in de zin van dat er beter naar een andere optie gekeken zou moeten worden.
Coats is er niet blij mee in ieder geval.
Maar inderdaad, hij komt vast even inspecteren hoe zijn asset het doet. En als zo vaak vraag ik mij af of Trump echt zo dom is dat hij denkt dat het een goed idee is of dat Poetin het heeft afgedwongen.
Maar die tweede meeting zou al in de herfst zijn. Ik denk dat de meerderheid van de reps vanavond een dubbele borrel inschenken.
Dit was achteraf wel spot on van Hillary.
twitter:ABC twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 22:29:51Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats informed on stage at Aspen Security Forum that the Trump administration has invited Vladimir Putin to the White House."Say that again," he responds. https://t.co/RBdhdILVas https://t.co/TZal1Xb4Yi reageer retweet
Die is allang voorbijgekomen schat.quote:twitter:ABC twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 22:29:51
Maar debielste idee van de dag.
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quote:twitter:SethAbramson twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 22:30:41
Niet alleen voor elke huidige tweet van Trump is er eentje uit het verleden, dat geldt dus ook blijkbaar voor speeches.quote:
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Dit was achteraf wel spot on van Hillary.
Ja ik zie ook speculaties dat het daar om draait, Trump wil z'n piemel op tafel gooien. De parade is begin november, we zullen gauw genoeg merken of dat samenvalt met Putins bezoek.quote:
Is toch ook zo’n troepenparade dan in de VS als Putin er is? Kunnen de VS militairen mooi naar Putin salueren die in de WhiteHouse verblijft.
Ik ben sprakeloos. Sprakeloos.quote:
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Ja ik zie ook speculaties dat het daar om draait, Trump wil z'n piemel op tafel gooien. De parade is begin november, we zullen gauw genoeg merken of dat samenvalt met Putins bezoek.
Allemaal even klappen om de flauwe grapjes over The Apprentice en werkende vrouwen.twitter:ABC twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 21:12:27
Ook al langsgeweest.quote:
Mooi ook hoe Trump gewoon lekker door gaat ondanks alle controverse.Allemaal even klappen om de flauwe grapjes over The Apprentice en werkende vrouwen.twitter:ABC twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 21:12:27
Lees voor de humor eens voor je je bagger in dit topic gooit.
Hij was wel in zijn element ja, de baas keek niet over zijn schouder mee dus kon hij weer wat ontspannen.
Kwestie van aftellen dus tot Trump Coats ontslaat.twitter:alaynatreene twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 23:11:59Sources close to Trump tell @jonathanvswan that they're already speculating about whether Trump ends up firing Coats. Per a source with knowledge, Trump has never had much affection for Coats, and this interview with @mitchellreports won't help https://t.co/Td9HRvwtys reageer retweet
En terecht.quote:Kwestie van aftellen dus tot Trump Coats ontslaat.twitter:alaynatreene twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 23:11:59
Naja, goed, je bent duidelijk uit op aandacht na op vakantie geweest te zijn.quote:
Hoe was je vakantie? Nog wat leuke chicks leren kennen?
En hoezo terecht?
Ja, wie wil er nou een Director of National Intelligence die niet doet wat Poetin wil?quote:
Je trolls beginnen een beetje slap te worden Nontex. Step up your game!
Alsof Trumps woorden hierover nieuw waren. Laat me niet lachen.quote:
Als Coats zelfrespect had was ie allang opgestapt na die persconferentie in Helsinki.
Zoals wel meer achteraf spot on was BUT HER EMAILS!1!!!!1!1quote:
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Dit was achteraf wel spot on van Hillary.
twitter:RVAwonk twitterde op vrijdag 20-07-2018 om 02:04:14wow. Per @bpolitics, Putin told Russian diplomats he & Trump discussed the possibility of holding a referendum in Russian separatist-controlled Eastern Ukraine (which would be used to justify Russia's illegal invasion), but Trump asked him not to disclose the plan publicly. https://t.co/luG9hQW9al reageer retweet
Really?quote:Putin Tells Diplomats He Made Trump a New Offer on Ukraine at Their Summit
Vladimir Putin told Russian diplomats that he made a proposal to Donald Trump at their summit this week to hold a referendum to help resolve the conflict in eastern Ukraine, but agreed not to disclose the plan publicly so the U.S. president could consider it, according to two people who attended Putin’s closed-door speech on Thursday.
Details of what the two leaders discussed in their summit in Helsinki, Finland, remain scarce, with much of the description so far coming from Russia. While Putin portrayed the Ukraine offer as a sign he’s seeking to bring the four-year-old crisis to an end, a referendum is likely to be a hard sell with Ukraine and its backers in Europe, who remain committed to an 2015 European-brokered truce deal for the Donbas region, parts of which are controlled by Russian-backed separatists.
White House officials didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment. If Putin’s account of Trump’s reaction is accurate, it would suggest a more flexible approach than the U.S. has shown to date on the issue. At the Helsinki meeting, Trump also agreed to consider a Putin request to question the former U.S. ambassador to Moscow over U.S. campaign-finance violations that critics say Trump should have dismissed outright.
Putin gave his latest account of the meeting during at a conference with top Russian ambassadors and officials at the Foreign Ministry in Moscow, the people said, asking not to be identified discussing the president’s comments to the part of the session that was closed to the public. One of the people said that Trump had requested Putin not discuss the referendum idea at the press conference after the summit in order to give the U.S. leader time to mull it.SPOILERReferendum Proposal
Putin’s proposal would call for a vote conducted under international auspices by the residents of the separatist territories on their status, the people said. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov declined to comment on the details of what Putin said about Ukraine at the summit, saying only, “Some new ideas were discussed. They will be worked on.”
On Twitter Thursday, Trump called the summit “a great success” and cited Ukraine among the areas discussed, without providing details.
Putin’s proposal will alarm Ukrainian officials after Trump last week appeared to leave open the possibility of recognizing Russia’s 2014 annexation of Crimea, which triggered the crisis that led to fighting in eastern Ukraine’s Donetsk and Luhansk regions. Ukraine has offered the areas autonomy under its rule and backs the deployment of international peacekeepers in the region.
The U.S. and the European Union have repeatedly accused Russia of sending troops and weapons to support separatists in eastern Ukraine. Russia denies the charge, though Ukraine has captured a number of Russian soldiers and weaponry on its territory.
Putin pointed to a 2014 referendum, which wasn’t internationally recognized, that was held in Crimea to justify Russia’s annexation at his press conference with Trump after the summit in Helsinki on Monday. “We believe that we held a referendum in strict compliance with international law,” he said. “This case is closed for Russia.”
‘Farce’ Votes
Leaders of so-called rebel republics in Donetsk and Luhansk held referendums in May 2014 that declared independence. The votes were rejected as illegal by the U.S. and the European Union, while Ukraine called them a “farce.” Russia said at the time that it “respects” the votes, which showed as much as 96 percent support for breaking away from Ukraine.
Last year, Putin angered his Ukrainian counterpart, Petro Poroshenko, by signing a decree recognizing passports and other documents issued by the separatist governments in Luhansk and Donetsk, which have already declared the ruble their official currency.
If a referendum was held in rebel areas of eastern Ukraine, “the result would be the same as in Crimea,” which voted to join Russia, Igor Plotnitsky, who was then leader of the self-declared Luhansk People’s Republic, told Russian state-run RIA Novosti news service in March last year.
twitter:SethAbramson twitterde op vrijdag 20-07-2018 om 02:52:22
quote:A week before Michael T. Flynn resigned as national security adviser, a sealed proposal was hand-delivered to his office, outlining a way for President Trump to lift sanctions against Russia.
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twitter:SethAbramson twitterde op vrijdag 20-07-2018 om 03:32:09
twitter:SethAbramson twitterde op vrijdag 20-07-2018 om 04:16:54
quote:Kwestie van aftellen dus tot Trump Coats ontslaat.twitter:alaynatreene twitterde op donderdag 19-07-2018 om 23:11:59
quote:Inside the White House, Trump’s advisers were in an uproar over Coats’s interview in Aspen, Colo. They said the optics were especially damaging, noting that at moments Coats appeared to be laughing at the president, playing to his audience of the intellectual elite in a manner that was sure to infuriate Trump.
“Coats has gone rogue,” said one senior White House official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to provide a candid assessment.
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Great successquote:Russia announces new nuclear weapons tests days after Trump-Putin summit
Russia is reportedly testing a range of new nuclear weapons and other military hardware including a high-powered laser, just days after Russian President Vladimir Putin met with President Trump for a one-on-one summit in Finland.
The Associated Press reported on Thursday that Russia had tested weapons that range from the laser weapon system to a nuclear-powered cruise missile. The cruise missile is reported to have "unlimited" range.
On Thursday, the country's Defense Ministry reportedly said that it had tested the Burevestnik cruise missile and is now preparing it for a flight test.
"The program of the system’s pop-up tests has been completed with the positive results, which makes it possible to switch to preparations for the flight trials of the Sarmat missile complex," the Defense Ministry said, according to Tass, a Russian news agency.
The AP also notes that military officials in Russia said the country is practicing how to utilize a Peresvet high-powered laser weapon system. It is also practicing trials of the Poseidon underwater nuclear drone.
The development comes after Trump and Putin concluded a high-stakes summit in Helsinki on Monday.
Trump has faced bipartisan criticism over his refusal to denounce Russia for interfering in the 2016 presidential election.
But Trump and the White House have sought to walk back his remarks appearing to accept Putin's denial. Trump told reporters that he misspoke, and added in a Wednesday interview with CBS that he holds Putin responsible.
Trump added Thursday that he wants to have a second meeting with Putin to implement things regarding topics they discussed, including nuclear proliferation.
"I look forward to our second meeting so that we can start implementing some of the many things discussed, including stopping terrorism, security for Israel, nuclear proliferation, cyber attacks, trade, Ukraine, Middle East peace, North Korea and more. There are many answers, some easy and some hard, to these problems...but they can ALL be solved!" Trump said on Twitter.
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I called itquote:
Please don't.quote:
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Ja, wie wil er nou een Director of National Intelligence die niet doet wat Poetin wil?
Je trolls beginnen een beetje slap te worden Nontex. Step up your game!
Het vermoorden van Bill Browder bijvoorbeeld.
Dat lijkt me niet. En met een paar onschuldige slachtoffers is het als test mislukt.quote:
Met alles wat we nu weten vraag ik me stiekem toch af of de aanval op Skripal geen testrun was voor iets anders?
Het vermoorden van Bill Browder bijvoorbeeld.
Ik denk dat de test meer was hoe May zou reageren. En wat dat betreft is de test gewoon geslaagd.quote:
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Dat lijkt me niet. En met een paar onschuldige slachtoffers is het als test mislukt.