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Ik zie die stijging niet. Er leven honderdduizenden soennieten in sjiitische gebieden in Irak. Hoe kan iemand dan in godsnaam claimen dat de sjiitische milities gelijk zijn aan groeperingen als ISIS? Ook onder de peshmerga zie je meer frustraties jegens deze soennitische extremisten, maar ook dat is vaker een uitzondering als regel. En is bovendien nog altijd een reactie op, en niet het gevolg van een bepaald ideologie.

De stijging zie 'je' na het verwijderen van Saddam, Sjietische milities en Soennitische die elkaar letterlijk onthoofden, boren en soms als vergelding en soms willekeurig elkaar moorden simpelweg omdat ze niet behoren tot eigen groepen, in de periode 2004 tm 2007 is hier door vrijwel ieder nieuwsmedium aandacht aan besteed, ik zou serieus de eerst overtuigende argument wat mij betreft nog moeten horen dat een groep daarin rationeler / pacifistischer handelde dan de ander, tot op heden heb ik dat niet mogen aanschouwen, maar ik sta er zeker open voor.

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Je wijt het nu aan een gebrek aan discipline, wat inderdaad een rede daarvoor kan zijn. Bij de soennieten, zelfs onder gedisciplineerde groeperingen, is het systematisch ingegoten in de ideologische en operationele uitvoer van de organisatie. Dus weer een significant verschil.
Zou je een voorbeeld kunnen noemen waarbij het dan wel gaat om Soennieten, maar waar er geen sprake is van salafistische invloeden?

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Etnisch/religieus zuivering van minderheden, middels gedwongen bekering of geweld, is n van de doeleinden van ISIS.
Nog steeds weet ik niet wat je met etnische zuiveringen bedoelt als het gaat om dadem van ISIS. De religieuze en ideologische minderheden zuiveren wel idd, maar etnisch neigt wmb toch meer naar etniciteit.
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Zie allemaal foto's langskomen van die Jaysh al-Islam-video.
Bij https://twitter.com/wheelertweets een hoop stills. Iemand de gehele video?
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  woensdag 1 juli 2015 @ 10:00:54 #128
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Terroristen krijgen bommen op hun dakje:

breakingnewssy twitterde op woensdag 01-07-2015 om 08:47:48 #Quneitra countryside: the Army destroys headquarters and vehicles for armed militias east of #Harsh_Tarnaja area. reageer retweet
IS wil nog sneller hun Kalifaat kwijtraken? Of hebben ze een telefoontje gehad van ome Erdo?

Hmm. Embedden gaat niet helemaal lekker. Quote uit de tweet:

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ARA News Erbil, Kurdistan Region ?? The radical group of Islamic State (IS/ISIS) intensified military preparations in the eastern areas of Syria's Deir ez-Zor, adjacent to the Iraqi border, where...
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Over the past few days, Islamic State transferred a large number of militants from the city of Mosul in Nineveh province of northern Iraq to the Syrian territory.
Geven ze Irak op?

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rConflictNews twitterde op woensdag 01-07-2015 om 08:12:25 Video of the captured Egyptian #ISIS member who took part in massacre in #Kobane #YPG https://t.co/v49qLgXqw5 http://t.co/mj4qRfGnQz reageer retweet
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Assad heeft alweer 32 burgers gedood binnen 24 uur. Wr hebben ze doelbewust vaatbommen op markten gegooid waar mensen gewoon hun eten/drinken en kleding halen. Dit doet me denken aan de wreedheden van isis. Over isis gesproken, assad zou eens voor de verandering hun vaatbommen op militaire doelwitten moeten gooien in isis gebied, in plaats van laf boven markten vliegen en bommen naar beneden gooien.


Markt 1, Idlib


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Syria: 21 people killed incl women/children after airstrikes hit market, homes in Ehsim, Idlib

Markt 2, Douma


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Syria: 11 people killed, 100+ injured after airstrike hit market in Damascus suburb of Douma

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rConflictNews twitterde op woensdag 01-07-2015 om 08:12:25 Video of the captured Egyptian #ISIS member who took part in massacre in #Kobane #YPG https://t.co/v49qLgXqw5 http://t.co/mj4qRfGnQz reageer retweet
Etnische zuivering, duidelijk.
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Assad heeft alweer 32 burgers gedood binnen 24 uur. Wr hebben ze doelbewust vaatbommen op markten gegooid waar mensen gewoon hun eten/drinken en kleding halen. Dit doet me denken aan de wreedheden van isis. Over isis gesproken, assad zou eens voor de verandering hun vaatbommen op militaire doelwitten moeten gooien in isis gebied, in plaats van laf boven markten vliegen en bommen naar beneden gooien.
Assad _O_
Leger Syri boekt overwinning op IS
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deSyracuse twitterde op woensdag 01-07-2015 om 12:37:55 #Hasakah situation map update /#YPG and #SAA counter-offensive / Click on http://t.co/rBYmuB8gz7 http://t.co/5dxlHzgaCb reageer retweet
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SeniorB twitterde op woensdag 01-07-2015 om 09:58:55 Kurd MP: 7,000 Iraqi #Peshmerga Forces Likely to Fight in #Syria - Fars Agency reageer retweet
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Zie allemaal foto's langskomen van die Jaysh al-Islam-video.
Bij https://twitter.com/wheelertweets een hoop stills. Iemand de gehele video?
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sayed_ridha twitterde op woensdag 01-07-2015 om 14:36:41 #SAA in control of Al-Bassel roundabout in Ghweiran #Hasakah #Syria http://t.co/G0lH7U4WgI reageer retweet
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IvanSidorenko1 twitterde op woensdag 01-07-2015 om 09:42:42 #Syria #Hasakah #الحسكة #Hese #ܚܣܟܗ Syrian Republican Guard Soldier just posted these photos of A dead #ISIS #IS http://t.co/Q5DVdYIfpq reageer retweet
IvanSidorenko1 twitterde op woensdag 01-07-2015 om 10:21:34 #Syria #Hasakah #الحسكة #Hese #ܚܣܟܗ Sheikh Abu Muhammad Basit commander of the #Shaitit #SAA with dead #ISIS #IS http://t.co/MsEnXBY1x4 reageer retweet
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Terroristen krijgen bommen op hun dakje:

breakingnewssy twitterde op woensdag 01-07-2015 om 08:47:48 #Quneitra countryside: the Army destroys headquarters and vehicles for armed militias east of #Harsh_Tarnaja area. reageer retweet
IS wil nog sneller hun Kalifaat kwijtraken? Of hebben ze een telefoontje gehad van ome Erdo?

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Geven ze Irak op?
D'r zijn nog genoeg apen in Irak lijkt me, anders regelt Erdogan wel nieuwe aanvoer.
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callysally twitterde op woensdag 01-07-2015 om 13:18:18 #PYD: "We reiterate that we do not seek to establish an independent state, as is falsely claimed by Mr. #Erdogan...We are a part of #Syria" reageer retweet
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Al Nusrah Front celebrates 9/11 attacks in new video
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The Al Nusrah Front, al Qaeda’s official branch in Syria, has released a 43-minute documentary titled, “The Heirs of Glory.” The video tells the history of Islam from Al Nusrah’s perspective, culminating in video footage of the 9/11 attacks and audio clips from Osama bin Laden’s speeches.

Al Nusrah highlights the footage of 9/11 after replaying a threat made by bin Laden in 1998. Bin Laden claimed at the time that “the joint Crusader-Jewish forces” have been responsible for all of the recent “aggression” against Muslims lands. The al Qaeda founder portrayed the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia during the Gulf War and thereafter as part of a successful plot “to capture the two holy sanctuaries (Mecca and Medina).” (Of course, US forces did not capture Islam’s holy sites, but instead defended the region against Saddam Hussein’s aggression.)

“So we seek to incite the Islamic Nation so it may rise to liberate its lands and perform Jihad in the path of Allah, and to establish the law of Allah, so the Word of Allah may be supreme,” Bin Laden continued in the clip from 1998.

An Al Nusrah Front narrator then elaborates: “The letters of Sheikh Osama continued to the West instructing them to cease supporting the Jews in Palestine. He called them several times to cease looting the wealth of the Muslims and to leave the Arabian Peninsula.”

Video clips of the attacks on the World Trade Center’s Twin Towers are played as the narrator then says the following: “However, the Americans insisted and were arrogant. Thus, the choice to respond in the same manner was found to be the most effective solution, so the West may know that the Muslims will never remain silent to the crimes committed against them, and that they will resist oppression and tyranny.”

Al Nusrah’s documentary serves as a rebuttal, of sorts, to the dubious, thinly-sourced claims that the group was going to break with al Qaeda. Because of its prominent role in the insurgency against Bashar al Assad’s regime, some have tried to whitewash Al Nusrah.
Erg gematigd.
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callysally twitterde op woensdag 01-07-2015 om 13:18:18 #PYD: "We reiterate that we do not seek to establish an independent state, as is falsely claimed by Mr. #Erdogan...We are a part of #Syria" reageer retweet
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Syria's Kurds Warn Turkey Not to Intervene Militarily

Syria's main Kurdish party warned Turkey on Wednesday that any military intervention would threaten international peace and said the country's main Kurdish militia is ready to face any "aggression."

The statement by the Democratic Union Party, or PYD, comes as Turkish media is abuzz with talk of a long-debated military intervention to push the Islamic State group back from the Turkish border — a move that would also outflank any Kurdish attempt to create a state along Turkey's southern frontier.

Kurdish fighters backed by U.S.-led airstrikes have been on the offensive against the IS group in northern Syria for months, and now control a long stretch along the Syria-Turkey border. Turkey, which battled a decades-long Kurdish insurgency, has viewed the advance with growing concern and has warned it will not tolerate the establishment of a Kurdish state in Syria.

Two weeks ago, the People's Protection Units, or YPG, which is dominated by the PYD, captured the border town of Tal Abyad, denying the IS group a crucial nearby border crossing used to bring in supplies and foreign fighters.

The capture of Tal Abyad cleared the way for the Kurds to connect their stronghold in Syria's northeast to the once badly isolated border town of Kobani — where they famously resisted a months-long Islamic State siege — and possibly extend it to the Kurdish enclave of Afrin in Syria's northwest.

"Any military intervention in Rojava will have local, regional and international repercussions and will contribute to complicating the political situation in Syria and the Middle East and threaten international security and peace," the PYD statement warned. Rojava is a term that refers to Syria's predominantly Kurdish region.

The PYD called on NATO members to prevent Turkey from carrying out any "reckless" intervention. It added that Syria's Kurds want good relations with their neighbors and have no intention to set up an independent state.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan chaired a National Security Council meeting Monday which covered developments in Syria. Pro-government newspapers said proposals ranged from loosening the rules of engagement to give Turkish troops a freer hand to fire into Syria, to a tanks-and-troops invasion aimed at occupying a 110-kilometer (70-mile) long, 33-kilometer (20-mile) wide buffer zone.

Turkish officials fear the creation of a vast and contiguous zone of Kurdish control could stir up separatist sentiment among its own Kurdish minority. Ankara is also concerned over reports that Kurdish rebels are chasing other ethnic groups, such as Arabs and Turkmens, out of the areas under their control.

The PYD statement said YPG fighters "are ready to repel any aggression by any party." It called on Turkish officials to "stop their provocative and reckless acts."

Earlier Wednesday, YPG spokesman Redur Khalil said Kurdish fighters now fully control Tal Abyad, after repelling a surprise Islamic State attack that saw the extremists briefly seize the northeastern neighborhood of Mashhour. Khalil said three IS fighters were killed and a fourth blew himself up.
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Syrian Christian leader tells West: 'Stop arming terror groups who are massacring our people'
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The world leader of Syria's besieged Christians has issued a heartfelt plea to the West to "stop arming and supporting terrorist groups that are destroying our countries and massacring our people."

The Patriarch of Antioch, Moran Mor Ignatius Aphrem II, said he was not asking the West for military intervention to defend Christians.

If the West wants to do something about the present crisis, the most effective thing would be to support local governments, which need sufficient armies and forces to maintain security and defend respective populations against attacks.

"State institutions need to be strengthened and stabilised. Instead, what we see is their forced dismemberment being fuelled from the outside," he told Vatican Insider.

Patriarch Aphrem, head of the Syrian Orthodox Church, said the most blasphemous thing a person can do is to call suicide bombers "martyrs".

"Throughout its journey through history the Church has also been a suffering Church," he added. Speaking in the days after meeting the Pope in Rome, he had just returned from Qamishli, his home town, where he met thousands of new Christian refugees who fled after Islamic State jihadists attacked Hassake, in Jazira province.

Islamic State terrorists who die while carrying out their atrocities regard such deaths as martyrdom. They believe it secures them passage to paradise.

The Patriarch contradicted this view. He said: "Martyrdom is not a sacrifice offered to God, like those sacrifices which are offered to pagan gods. Christian martyrs do not seek martyrdom to demonstrate their faith. And they do not wilfully shed their blood in order to obtain God's favour or some other prize, like Paradise."

Along with bishops of his church he recently had talks with President Assad of Syria. "President Assad urged us to do everything in our hands to prevent Christians from leaving Syria. 'I know you are suffering,' he said, 'but please don't leave this land, which has been your home for thousands of years, even before Islam came.' He said that Christians will also be needed when the time comes to rebuild this devastated country."

He said the majority of Syrian citizens support Assad's government and have always supported it.

"We recognise legitimate rulers and pray for them, as the New Testament teaches us. We also see that on the other side there is no democratic opposition, only extremist groups. Above all, we see that in the past few years, these groups have been basing their actions on an ideology that comes from the outside, brought here by preachers of hatred who have come from and are backed by Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Egypt. These groups receive arms through Turkey too, as the media have shown us."

He said Islamic State was not the Islam that Syrians have learned about andlived alongside for hundreds of years. "There are forces that fuel it with arms and money because it is useful in what Pope Francis calls the 'war fought piecemeal'. But all this also draws on a perverse religious ideology that claims to be inspired by the Koran."
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In the latest revelation of the Saudi cables released by WikiLeaks, Iran threatened to hit Turkey if any of the air bases in Turkish territory are used to strike Bashar al-Assad's Syria.

A Saudi cable sent from the Saudi Embassy in Tehran to the Foreign Ministry of Saudi Arabia reveals the bellicose rhetoric in Tehran against Ankara, which was accused by Iran of abetting the uprising in Syria.

According to the cable, parts of which appeared in the Turkish media, the Iranian press launched a propaganda campaign against the Turkish government led by then-Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan for allegedly adopting pro-Israel and American policies in its foreign policy.

Iran worked hard, to no avail, to convince Ankara to change its course and stop backing the Syrian opposition seeking a regime change in Syria.

An Iranian delegation sent by Tehran to Ankara threatened their Turkish counterparts that Turkey will become a target of Iranian missiles if any Turkish air base is used by Western powers to strike Syria.

WikiLeaks published nearly 60,000 Saudi cables in its recent series of revelations, sending ripples of anxiety through Middle Eastern capitals.
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Vergeet Assad en ISIS, het zijn deze twee landen wat gaan zorgen voor de 3e wereldoorlog.
  woensdag 1 juli 2015 @ 20:00:11 #143
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ColdKurd twitterde op woensdag 01-07-2015 om 19:16:09 Kobane S.F #YPG forces begin a new campaign toward #sarrin Three villages liberated and several strategic hills around the town reageer retweet
ChuckPfarrer twitterde op woensdag 01-07-2015 om 18:33:53 SARRIN TACMAP: 01 JUL 1250EST. Daesh looses high ground near Sarrin. Kurdish offensive continues. #Kobani #Kobane http://t.co/njNMSn1r4e reageer retweet
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Vergeet Assad en ISIS, het zijn deze twee landen wat gaan zorgen voor de 3e wereldoorlog.
Blufpoker. Erdo dreigt Syri binnen te vallen, de PKK dreigt een burgeroorlog te ontketenen, Iran dreigt Turkije aan te vallen, etc.
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Blufpoker. Erdo dreigt Syri binnen te vallen, de PKK dreigt een burgeroorlog te ontketenen, Iran dreigt Turkije aan te vallen, etc.
Zeg inshallah lan.
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Dat ze nu Sarrin aanvallen is een direct gevolg van de aanval op Kobane en kan gezien worden als een vergelding, het is een daesh bolwerk wat al 2 jaar in hun handen is wat de YPG eerst links heeft laten liggen. Als de stad valt is dat een zware klap voor ISIS.

sayed_ridha twitterde op woensdag 01-07-2015 om 14:41:41 #YPG announce "Revenge for #Kobane Martyrs" operation to capture the town of Sarrin controlled by #IS http://t.co/hkk8pKRzwe reageer retweet
Syria_Rebel_Obs twitterde op woensdag 01-07-2015 om 16:44:30 #SRO | Control over #Sarrin after Ayn Isa and W-#Hasakah gov' part will give a large #YPG control over the M4 higway, main N-#Syria road. reageer retweet
Syria_Rebel_Obs twitterde op woensdag 01-07-2015 om 16:47:02 ADD. : this will give to the "#Rojava plan" a "strong link", symbolical as real, as M4 going from Yarubiyah (East) to #Aleppo (West)... reageer retweet
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Avashin twitterde op woensdag 01-07-2015 om 19:21:59 Mersho Hospital in Hassake is under Asayish control. #TwitterKurds reageer retweet
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@sakirkhader: #BREAKING: #Egyptian Armed Forces say they killed at least hundred militants in North #Sinai fighting.

@rConflictNews: EGYPTIAN ARMY STATEMENT: 17 Egyptian soldiers killed, and 13 more injured in North #Sinai attacks. 100 ISIS fighters dead - @EgyptianStreets
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@sakirkhader: #BREAKING: #Egyptian Armed Forces say they killed at least hundred militants in North #Sinai fighting.

@rConflictNews: EGYPTIAN ARMY STATEMENT: 17 Egyptian soldiers killed, and 13 more injured in North #Sinai attacks. 100 ISIS fighters dead - @EgyptianStreets
Dit is wel het compleet tegenovergestelde van eerdere meldingen over tientallen dode militairen... Waar ligt de waarheid?
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Dit is wel het compleet tegenovergestelde van eerdere meldingen over tientallen dode militairen... Waar ligt de waarheid?
Volgens Egyptische bronnen zijn de meeste slachtoffers "burgers" en geen militairen. 17 militairen & 60 burgers.
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