Tofik Dibi vergelijkt sfeer mbt moslims nu met aanloop naar holocaust

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TofikDibi twitterde op zondag 03-05-2015 om 19:42:21 De sfeer in aanloop naar de vernietiging van zoveel joden, ik vraag me weleens af, hoeveel lijkt die op sfeer rondom moslims nu... reageer retweet

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Op zondag 3 mei 2015 23:16 schreef Xa1pt het volgende:

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Zou eerwraak een islamitisch verschijnsel zijn denk je?

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Op zondag 3 mei 2015 23:19 schreef Red_85 het volgende:

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Sorry? Hoe dan? Door gewoon mee te doen in de maatschappij? Eigen ondernemening te hebben? En uit criminaliteit en vandalisme te blijven? En niet iedereen te haten die anders dan joden zijn?

Dit is nummer 3 binnen een week van jou, zieke.

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Dibi: "De sfeer in aanloop naar de vernietiging van zoveel joden, ik vraag me weleens af, hoeveel lijkt die op sfeer rondom moslims nu... "

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Op zondag 3 mei 2015 23:24 schreef Xa1pt het volgende:

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Syriërs die FOK!en, nice.

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In May, hoping to gauge public feeling about Zahra’s case, I spent a couple of hours walking around a crowded lower-middle-class neighborhood in Damascus. In the wealthiest areas of the city, half the people on the streets might be female, but here, in the late evening, there were very few women to be found. In shawarma sandwich shops and juice stalls, most men had heard of Zahra, but more than half of them believed that the practice of honor killing is protected — or outright required — by Islamic law. A man named Abu Rajab, who ran a cigarette stall, described it as “something that is found in religion” and added that even if the laws were changed, “a man will kill his sister if he needs to, even if it means 15 years in prison.”

Yet the notion that Islam condones honor killing is a misconception, according to some lawyers and a few prominent Islamic scholars. Daad Mousa, a Syrian women’s rights advocate and lawyer, told me that though beliefs about cleansing a man’s honor derive from Bedouin tradition, the three Syrian laws used to pardon men who commit honor crimes can be traced back not to Islamic law but to the law codes, based on the Napoleonic code, that were imposed in the Levant during the French mandate. “Article 192 states that if a man commits a crime with an ‘honorable motive,’ he will go free,” Mousa said. “In Western countries this law usually applies in cases where doctors kill their patients accidentally, intending to save them, but here the idea of ‘honorable motive’ is often expanded to include men who are seen as acting in defense of their honor.

“Article 242 refers to crimes of passion,” Mousa continued. “But it’s Article 548 that we’re really up against. Article 548 states precisely that if a man witnesses a female relative in an immoral act and kills her, he will go free.” Judges frequently interpret these laws so loosely that a premeditated killing — like the one Fayyez is accused of — is often judged a “crime of passion”; “witnessing” a female relative’s behavior is sometimes defined as hearing neighborhood gossip about it; and for a woman, merely speaking to a man may be ruled an “immoral act.” Syria, which has been governed since 1963 by a secular Baathist regime, has a strong reputation in the region for sex equality; women graduate from high schools and universities in numbers roughly equal to men, and they frequently hold influential positions as doctors, professors and even government ministers. But in the family, a different standard applies. “Honor here means only one thing: women, and especially the sexual life of women,” Mousa said. The decision to carry out an honor killing is usually made by the family as a group, and an under-age boy is often nominated to carry out the task, to eliminate even the smallest risk of a prison sentence.

Some advocates claim that Syria has an especially high number of honor killings per capita, saying that the country is second or third in the world. In fact, reliable statistics on honor killing are nearly impossible to come by. The United Nations Population Fund says that about 5,000 honor killings take place each year around the world, but since they often occur in rural areas where births and deaths go unreported, it is very difficult to count them by country. Some killings have been recorded in European cultures, including Italy, and in Christian or Druse communities in predominantly Muslim countries. But it is widely agreed that honor killings are found disproportionately in Muslim communities, from Bangladesh to Egypt to Great Britain.

The Grand Mufti Ahmad Badr Eddin Hassoun, Syria’s highest-ranking Islamic teacher, has condemned honor killing and Article 548 in unequivocal terms. Earlier this year, when we met for a rare interview in his spacious office on the 10th floor of Syria’s ministry of religious endowments, he told me, “It happens sometimes that a misogynistic religious scholar will argue that women are the source of all kinds of evil.” In fact, he said, the Koran does not differentiate between women and men in its moral laws, requiring sexual chastity of both, for example. The commonly held view that Article 548 is derived from Islamic law, he said, is false.

With his tightly wound white turban and giant pearl ring, the grand mufti is one of Syria’s most recognizable public figures. He is a charismatic and generally popular sheik, but because he is appointed by the state, many Syrians believe that his views reflect those of the ruling party, and they may find his teachings suspect as a result. In downtown Damascus, one man I interviewed on the street declared that the grand mufti was not a “real Muslim” if he believed in canceling Article 548. “It’s an Islamic law to kill your relative if she errs,” said the man, who gave his name as Ahmed and said that he learned of Zahra’s story on Syrian television. “If the sheik tries to fight this, the people will rise up and slit his throat.”

There are religious figures who defend the status quo. At a conference on honor killing held this year at Damascus University, Mohammed Said Ramadan al-Bouti, one of Syria’s most esteemed clerics, maintained that the laws should not be changed, defending them on the principle in Shariah law that people who kill in defense of their property should be treated with lenience (he is believed to have moderated his stance since). When, at an earlier conference, the grand mufti announced that he didn’t believe protecting a woman’s virginity was the most important component of honor, many attendees were upset. In response, a group of about a dozen women, all dressed in the long black abayas that in Syria are usually worn by only very conservative women, walked out of the room.

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Op zondag 3 mei 2015 23:32 schreef Xa1pt het volgende:

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Waar wil je precies heen met deze grijsgespeelde plaat?

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Op zondag 3 mei 2015 23:38 schreef Xa1pt het volgende:

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Thx for proving my point.

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Op zondag 3 mei 2015 23:40 schreef Xa1pt het volgende:

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Want moslims in Syrië vermoorden andere mensen. Goed verhaal wel.

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Op zondag 3 mei 2015 23:45 schreef Xa1pt het volgende:

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Ik lees o.a. dat men braaf de wetten van Napoleon nog naleeft.

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Op zondag 3 mei 2015 23:46 schreef Xa1pt het volgende:

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Ok. En wat heeft dat met Tofik's verhaal te maken?

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Op zondag 3 mei 2015 23:49 schreef Xa1pt het volgende:

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Ok, dus het komt ook in Syrië voor, is niet door moslims verzonnen en het is eveneens geen verschijnsel wat voorbehouden is aan moslims. Wat heeft het dan in godsnaam met dit topic te maken?