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Kiev Independence Day Parade Flaunts Artillery and Armor: Russian Roulette (Dispatch 71)

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BBCDanielS twitterde op dinsdag 02-09-2014 om 17:38:22 UK Defence Minister Julian Brazier says British troops may take part in a military exercise in Ukraine later this month. reageer retweet

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Op woensdag 3 september 2014 23:40 schreef Nintex het volgende:
Ach, stel dat de Japanners morgen roepen: "Wij staan over 2 weken in Seoul" of de Saudi's: "Wij staan over 2 weken in Cairo". Putin is met zijn dreiging naar Kiev een stap te ver gegaan. Ieder land met een beetje verstand snapt dat, ieder persoon met een beetje verstand snapt dat.

Er zijn meer landen die blij zijn dat de Fransen het Russische leger niet aansterken dan dat er landen zijn die bezwaar zulen hebben tegen de Franse beslissing.

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Putin threatens to release disputed Barroso call

Russia President Vladimir Putin has raised the stakes yesterday (2 September) by telling European Commission President José Manuel Barroso that if he doesn’t officially object, the Kremlin will release the full recording of a telephone call in which, according to Barroso, the Russian President said he could take Kyiv in two weeks if he wanted.

Vladimir Chizhov, Russia's ambassador to the European Union, said the Kremlin is prepared to release the full audio and written transcript of the phone call between Putin and Barroso from 29 August.

Italy's La Reppublica has published what appears to be the account of Prime Minister Matteo Renzi, of an exchange held at the 30-31 August EU summit. Commission President José Manuel Barroso is reported to have told EU leaders that Vladimir Putin had informed him that he could take Kyiv in two weeks if he wanted.

A Kremlin foreign policy aide commented yesterday on Putin’s statement. He didn’t deny that Putin had said the Russian army could capture Kyiv within two weeks, but said the words were “taken out of context”.

"It was taken out of context and had a totally different meaning," Yuri Ushakov was quoted as saying.

In his letter, Chizhov says the disclosure of a confidential conversation by Barroso "goes far beyond the bounds of the generally accepted diplomatic practice".

"I know that the Russian presidential administration has both the transcript and the audio recording of the mentioned phone conversation and, in order to remove misunderstandings, is ready to make its content public in full in case you do not voice your objections to it within the next two days,” Chizhov wrote, according to the Russian news agency Itar-Tass.

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Barroso has to make a difficult choice, quickly. If he objects to the publishing of the controversial phone call, it could be assumed that his report of the conversation does not exactly correspond to the actual recording. But if the phone conversation becomes public, it may reveal that Barroso hasn’t been as bold with Putin as the European Commission communication suggests.

In a press release, the Commission says that in “a very frank exchange of views”, Barroso “expressed his deep concern with the current events and the situation on the ground in Ukraine, saying they were “in complete contradiction” with the efforts made by the EU to bring about diplomatic and pragmatic solutions to issues such as the implementation of the EU-Ukraine Association Agreement, and energy relations between Russia and Ukraine.

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European Commission prefers to settle Putin-Barroso conversation issue diplomatically

BRUSSELS, September 03. /ITAR-TASS/. The European Commission prefers to settle the issue involving the contents of a telephone conversation between Russian President Vladimir Putin and EC chief Jose Manuel Barroso diplomatically, the EC press-service has told ITAR-TASS, when asked if Barroso had any objections to the possibility the Russian presidential staff may disclose the contents of the conversation in full to eliminate confusion.

The EC press-service said it was a major diplomatic issue and steps were being taken to settle it diplomatically, not through the mass media.

The EC added that everything that it had to say about last Friday’s Putin-Barroso conversation was published in the communique.

Over the past several days several media carried rumours the EC head allegedly disclosed some contents of his telephone conversation with the Russian president. Putin was quoted as saying that Russian troops might have taken Kiev within short deadlines, if necessary.

On Tuesday, Russia’s EU envoy Vladimir Chizhov dispatched a message to the head of the European Communities Commission to warn him that the Russian presidential staff had a transcript and audio recording of Putin’s conversation with Barroso and was prepared to make its contents public to eliminate all misunderstandings.

“Over the past few days several mass media, including Italy’s La Repubblica, have published commentaries regarding your telephone conversation last Friday, August 29,” Chizhov said in the message. “According to the publications you shared the contents of the conversation with some EU colleagues and attributed to the Russian president a statement that was obviously taken out of the context.”

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BradCabana twitterde op woensdag 03-09-2014 om 21:10:00 CONFIRMED: POWs from #Poland were captured at #Luhansk airport. #cdnpoli #Ukraine reageer retweet

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BradCabana twitterde op donderdag 04-09-2014 om 00:48:42 SIT REP: #Ukraine army has reoccupied #Donskoye and attempting #Volnovakha - highway #Donetsk Mariupol cut off again. #cdnpoli reageer retweet

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BradCabana twitterde op donderdag 04-09-2014 om 00:51:10 SIT REP: #Ukraine forces HAVE NOT completely taken #Panteleimonivka yet, but the route to #Gorlovka is "effectively" cut off. #cdnpoli reageer retweet

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Comment by Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev on Russian gas supplies to Ukraine
03 September 2014 19:30

Dmitry Medvedev: Proposals to use seasonal prices for Russian gas supplied to Ukraine came up today. We are ready to discuss how to resume our cooperation in the gas sphere with Ukraine as a debtor nation, but on two conditions.

First, Ukraine must repay its existing debt, which is astronomical.

Second, even with seasonal prices, the average price for the year will amount to $385 per 1,000 cubic metres, which includes the cancellation of the Russian customs duty, which our partners are well aware of.

If they don’t need discounts, we are willing to go back to the price of $485 per 1,000 cubic metres. We are quite happy with this price.

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Op donderdag 4 september 2014 01:06 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Polen die zich er mee gaat bemoeien?

Nee he.....

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russiandefpolic twitterde op donderdag 04-09-2014 om 01:24:05 Selling #Mistral to Russia would really hurt Moscow more. Expensive ships they don't need, can't maintain, don't have doctrine to use, etc. reageer retweet

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Op donderdag 4 september 2014 02:19 schreef remlof het volgende:

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De vorige koude oorlog duurde meer dan 40 jaar.

Maar Poetin's Rusland is niet zo stabiel als de Sovjet-Unie en lijkt net als nazi-Duitsland alleen aan de leider te hangen.
Ik geef Poetin nog een paar jaar, hooguit. En met steeds meer sancties kan zijn val hopelijk bespoedigd worden.

Het enige linke is het kernwapenarsenaal, maar ik mag hopen dat daar nog wel een paar mensen met inzicht aan de knoppen zitten.

Oftewel, ik hoop dat uiteindelijk het leger Poetin laat vallen.

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