Oorlog Oekraïne - Rusland #123

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Op vrijdag 29 augustus 2014 02:17 schreef LelijKnap het volgende:

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Jawel hoor. En dan heb je nog een paar prachtige continenten en wereldreligies die je in al het gewenste verschil kunnen voorzien

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Op vrijdag 29 augustus 2014 02:19 schreef LelijKnap het volgende:

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Die mag ook nog eens de (politieke) strijdt aangaan tegen robots.

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McCAIN AND GRAHAM ON RUSSIA’S INVASION OF UKRAINE

Washington, D.C. ­– U.S. Senators John McCain (R-AZ) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) today released the following statement on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine:

“Russia's ongoing aggression in Ukraine can only be called one thing: a cross-border military invasion. To claim it is anything other than that is to inhabit President Putin’s Orwellian universe.

“For months, the critics of providing arms and additional assistance to Ukraine have warned that doing so could provoke a Russian invasion. Everything the critics said would happen if we did more to help Ukraine has now happened anyway. Believing that the answer now is to do more of the same, or to do even less, is folly. Such a minimalist policy has been a large part of the current problem. It is most certainly not the answer now. Instead, the United States and our European allies should immediately begin providing intelligence and defensive weapons to Ukraine, including anti-armor systems. We should also impose real sectoral sanctions on Russia – not the half-measures taken to date, but full sanctions on Russia’s defense, financial, energy, and other sectors.

“This is a moment to speak and act with clarity. A sovereign nation in the heart of Europe is being invaded by its larger neighbor. This runs completely contrary to the civilized world that America and our partners have sought to build since World War II. If we will not or cannot defend our own values now, as well as friends who share them, the future will be dark and dangerous indeed, not just for Ukraine but for us too.”

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Op vrijdag 29 augustus 2014 02:30 schreef meth1745 het volgende:

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Has Ukraine Shot Itself in the Foot With Gas Pipeline Deal?

Last week, Ukrainian Prime Minister Yatsenyuk pushed a bill through the Verkhovna Rada that would see his country’s gas transportation system sold off to a group of international investors. The provisions of the law would permit the transit of natural gas to be blocked. This decision may hurt the fragile industrial recovery in Germany and finish off Ukraine’s potential as a gas transit route to Europe.

Germany, which is the industrial heart of the European Union and a major creditor for its debtor nations, is facing the challenge of the double-edged consequences of its inverted Ostpolitik as it pertains to the trade in natural gas. Even the temporary transit risks ensuing from Kiev’s decision to block the pipeline may cause a business slump.

The Nobel laureate Joseph Stiglitz offered an unnerving forecast for the German economy. The Columbia University professor, speaking at the conference in the southern German city of Lindau, described economic growth in the Eurozone as “sluggish.” The German economy in particular failed to grow during the second quarter, threatening the EU’s fragile industrial recovery.

In the years to come, coping with Kiev’s attempts to jeopardize the gas-transit system and cut off Europe from its quintessential energy source in the east could become a real headache for Germany’s foreign minister, Frank-Walter Steinmeier. The most vivid example of Ukraine’s self-destructive policy that has the potential to affect European taxpayers is the recent sale of its gas transportation system.

The imminent agreement, with many conflicting political overtones, will allow sales of 49 percent of Ukraine’s gas transportation system to a cobbled-together coalition of foreign shareholders.

First, the non-transparent deal -- sponsored by high-ranking government officials -- is a textbook case of restrictive practices that violate World Trade Organization rules. Secondly, the pipeline itself is anything but an attractive offer.

The major players in the European energy market are very well aware of the quality of the asset. They know that the pipeline is sorely in need of repair and is dependent on gas from a third party. According to some provisions of the law, the transit of natural gas through Ukraine can be blocked. If it really happens, the pipeline’s price will immediately plummet to $2 to $3 billion.

Who would buy a broken-down car that can only run using your neighbor’s gas?

That’s why, in July, Prime Minister Yatsenyuk was so interested in pushing the bill through the Verkhovna Rada that he threatened deputies with his resignation. Last week Mr. Yatsenyuk finally succeeded in passing the buck.

For many years, Ukraine has argued that its gas transportation system is an asset of national importance that wasn’t for sale. But the Euromaidan protests changed everything. Ukraine’s new media reported that Chevron wants to buy into the country’s transit company. While the official representatives of the corporation declined to comment on the “rumors,” last year Chevron co-sponsored a conference, “Ukraine in Washington 2013,” which starred the U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland. Her deep involvement in Ukrainian politics, along with her unorthodox but honest vision of the EU, is generally well known.

In passing the new law, government officials in Kiev and the Verkhovna Rada (now dissolved) ignored the fact that the majority of business-savvy Ukrainian voters would never approve the all-Ukrainian referendum on the summertime sale of the country’s last reasonably valuable asset. After all, the industrial region of Donbass has been irrevocably lost and the country needs to collect taxes.

The situation surrounding the pipeline deal is reminiscent of the tactics of the United Fruit Company in the mid and late 1960s. Radically right-wing governments were installed in Central and Latin America and that corporation gained control over those countries’ main export, bananas.

In Eastern Europe, many countries are not ready to follow Ukraine’s footsteps and renounce energy sovereignty. It’s no longer fashionable to be a banana republic. The deep-seated crisis in Ukraine and the success story of Nord Stream have encouraged other EU countries, such as Hungary, to diversify their natural-gas supply routes. Hungary’s secretary of state for public diplomacy and relations, Zoltán Kovács, recently quoted a statement from his country’s prime minister, Viktor Orbán: “No one can question our sovereign right to guarantee our natural gas supplies.” The leaders in Budapest are sure that no economic recovery is possible in Germany and EU without long-term natural-gas contracts. All EU members will benefit from stable regional trade patterns.

Events in Ukraine should not dominate the agenda of the whole continent. That would simply be dangerous. It has already become a cliché to compare the Ukrainian crisis with the Spanish Civil War. A couple of years ago, the total “Ukrainization” of EU policy would have been perceived as a bad joke. Today 300,000 jobs are at stake in Germany and it is high time for Berlin to step in and prevent the nationalist frenzy in Kiev from ruining decades of successful business cooperation. Heiko Lohmann, a German natural-gas expert, believes that a fundamental prerequisite for normalization is the continuity of energy relations.

Viewed from this perspective, Hungary’s position looks much more “pro-European.” Interestingly, the EU’s official energy policy papers (the European Ten-Year Network Development Plan (TYNDP 2011-2020) and Energy Infrastructure Priorities for 2020 and Beyond) contradict the hardline political statements of the acting members of the European Commission. According to the published data, Brussels expects to increase natural gas imports from Russia up to 40 percent. Time will tell whether Ukraine’s problem-plagued gas transportation system will play any role in these plans.

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Op vrijdag 29 augustus 2014 02:31 schreef LelijKnap het volgende:

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Zeker. Ik heb er wel een dubbel gevoel bij omdat ik 1) een fan ben van ontwikkeling van technologie an sich en 2) het net zoals alle technologie voordelig KAN zijn. Maar kijkend naar hoe bedrijven zich tegenwoordig bewegen is het enkel zorgwekkend, deze opkomst van robotica.

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Op vrijdag 29 augustus 2014 02:46 schreef DeJori het volgende:
Dit topic wordt met de dag erger

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Op vrijdag 29 augustus 2014 02:46 schreef DeJori het volgende:
Dit topic wordt met de dag erger

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Op vrijdag 29 augustus 2014 02:48 schreef remlof het volgende:

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Terwijl het zo'n serieus onderwerp is, erg jammer.

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Op vrijdag 29 augustus 2014 02:45 schreef meth1745 het volgende:
Photo Essay: What Remains of Donetsk
http://www.newsweek.com/photo-essay-what-remains-donetsk-267225

[eng subs] UA soldier cries watching videos of results of UA artillery strikes at towns

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alopeki twitterde op vrijdag 29-08-2014 om 02:43:33 TT @Yurich2408198008/28/14. Commander "Dingo" of "Wolf hundred" Cossack militias KIA today eternal memory#Ukraine http://t.co/tGrpqSpH7S reageer retweet

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Op vrijdag 29 augustus 2014 02:53 schreef meth1745 het volgende:

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alopeki twitterde op vrijdag 29-08-2014 om 02:43:33 TT @Yurich2408198008/28/14. Commander "Dingo" of "Wolf hundred" Cossack militias KIA today eternal memory#Ukraine http://t.co/tGrpqSpH7S reageer retweet

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Op vrijdag 29 augustus 2014 02:55 schreef hmmmmmmm het volgende:

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Killed In Action.

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Op vrijdag 29 augustus 2014 03:00 schreef meth1745 het volgende:

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was er vanuit gegaan dat het de naam van eenheid was, zoals NAF, ATO...
MIA herken ik meteen, KIA dus niet...

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Op vrijdag 29 augustus 2014 03:04 schreef hmmmmmmm het volgende:

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Vroeger wel eens zo'n amerikaanse leger game gespeeld daarvan ken ik dat zie je ook wel eens vaker in films zo van he's KIA of MIA.
De meeste nederlanders denken direct aan KIA auto ofzo.

Man wat ben ik blij als we dit topic helemaal kunnen sluiten.
Genoeg mensen zijn daar nu gesneuveld die helemaal niks te maken hadden met dat conflict.

Dat zie je wel als je het al oude ''They didn't tell us they were civilains they tell us they were terrorists'' verhaal hoort.
Hopelijk worden die teringlijers van de oekrainse regering langzaam gemarteld en vermoord die dat op hun geweten hebben.

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shustry twitterde op donderdag 28-08-2014 om 23:33:15 Putin asks the rebels to set free the Ukrainian soldiers they've encircled. First time he's asserted such overt control of the battlefield. reageer retweet