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Ukraine: Forces control most of 2 separatist areas

KIEV, Ukraine – A top Ukrainian security official says government troops have cleared more than a dozen towns of armed pro-Russia separatists and now control two-thirds of the eastern regions at the centre of the insurgency.

National security council secretary Andriy Parubiy said Friday that Ukrainian forces are still attacking rebel positions with artillery and planes. He said 17 villages had been secured by government forces since a unilateral cease fire expired Monday.

He said Ukrainian forces now control 23 of 36 local regions within Donetsk and Luhansk provinces, two regions along the Russian border that have declared independence from the government in Kyiv.

The rebels are still fighting back. Rebels shelled the Donetsk airport overnight and an AP reporter said a radar or communications tower there was still burning in the morning.

Ook het vliegveld van Kramatorsk
EuromaidanPR twitterde op vrijdag 04-07-2014 om 09:30:41 Airdromes in #Lugansk and #Kramatorsk were under mortar fire at night, #ATO press center https://t.co/N7Yq2URMWa |EMPR reageer retweet


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Kerk en politiek zijn vaak twee handen op n buik.

EuromaidanPR twitterde op donderdag 03-07-2014 om 11:01:52 In #Ukraine sooner or later there will be one unified Orthodox Church independent of #Moscow, Patriarch Filaret, presser @uacrisis |EMPR reageer retweet
EuromaidanPR twitterde op donderdag 03-07-2014 om 11:06:17 Church (of #Moscow Patriarchate) is de-facto a department of the #Russian state, Patriarch Filaret presser |EMPR http://t.co/NI4pDTBmeq reageer retweet


EuromaidanPR twitterde op vrijdag 04-07-2014 om 15:34:30 #Ukrainian artist Masha Kulikovska protested during #Manifesta10 in St.Petersburg https://t.co/Len5JIeLcU |EMPR http://t.co/dmNixTaJyH reageer retweet
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  vrijdag 4 juli 2014 @ 16:23:49 #203
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Tymchuk Face Book updates & overige kleine berichtjes over ATO
EuromaidanPR twitterde op vrijdag 04-07-2014 om 09:19:36 At night terrorists fired @ #ATO checkpoint in #Lugansk region with BM-21Grad multiple rocket launcher. No losses on ATO side, Tymchuk FB |EMPR reageer retweet
EuromaidanPR twitterde op vrijdag 04-07-2014 om 09:27:06 #ATO forces near Novoselivka, #Donetsk region attacked at 4.40. Casualties on ATO side https://t.co/N7Yq2URMWa |EMPR http://t.co/o7Z2D0HaY5 reageer retweet
EuromaidanPR twitterde op vrijdag 04-07-2014 om 09:29:07 #ATO checkpoint in #Donetsk region was attacked by 2 terrorists' tanks, got 2 APCs of ATO forces damaged https://t.co/ji7uCH8XBS |EMPR reageer retweet
EuromaidanPR twitterde op vrijdag 04-07-2014 om 09:45:30 #ATO forces blocked Mykolaivka, #Donetsk region, destroyed 6 terrorists' base points. 2 officers killed, #Tymchuk |EMPR http://t.co/gFS9igSY3I reageer retweet
EuromaidanPR twitterde op vrijdag 04-07-2014 om 09:55:10 Bridge over Siversky Donets blasted in Tryokhyzibenka, #Lugansk region. No casualties http://t.co/36pdImYvWN |EMPR http://t.co/CTcbL8iuYZ reageer retweet
EuromaidanPR twitterde op vrijdag 04-07-2014 om 10:05:46 Minimum 2 civilians died for the last 24 hours in #Luhansk as result of shootout & explosions http://t.co/gzeBo1U6Jc | EMPR News #Ukraine reageer retweet
EuromaidanPR twitterde op vrijdag 04-07-2014 om 10:07:48 Vice-PM #Groysman set to arrange humanitarian corridor for locals out of #ATO zone.Plan to be presented on 7Jul http://t.co/OW5ZaQlkla |EMPR reageer retweet


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  vrijdag 4 juli 2014 @ 17:58:51 #204
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Briefing Strelkov
Strelkov, Berezin and Militia Briefings, July 3, 2014

Urgent appeal Strelkov
Urgent Appeal by Igor Strelkov, July 4, 2014


gbazov twitterde op vrijdag 04-07-2014 om 07:51:32 #NIKOLAYEVKA - As I expected, but was holding back, NIKOLAYEVKA IS OURS - MILITIA HAS NOT GIVEN AN INCH. There are wounded and killed. reageer retweet
gbazov twitterde op vrijdag 04-07-2014 om 11:25:41 #FLASH - From Motorola: "Everyone who is asking about Motorola, tell them everything is fine. We have not abandoned Nikolayevka" (Told ya ;) reageer retweet

ChristopherJM twitterde op vrijdag 04-07-2014 om 10:14:34 Separatists falling apart? Strelkov says 3 rebel commanders deserted http://t.co/oJhel4qZ9w Bolotov fires LNR govt https://t.co/Rda9qeUKro reageer retweet
UNrightswire twitterde op vrijdag 04-07-2014 om 15:01:07 #Ukraine: Intensified fighting puts at risk lives of people in Donetsk & Luhansk @UNRighstwire Pillay: http://t.co/LUb5m4CcU6 reageer retweet


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  vrijdag 4 juli 2014 @ 21:19:36 #205
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Interview met Dmitry Tymchuk over de 'Information Resistance group' die hij heeft opgericht

The ATO lacks decisive and responsible leadership
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Last night, Russian border guards shot a group of 300 terrorists who tried to break into the Russian Federation from Donbas.

Putin, as always, plays on multiple fronts. For terrorists, such reprisals are a signal that there is no way back to Russia, and the mercenaries will have to fight to the end on Ukrainian soil. For the international community, it is a show, as in that is how well we protect [our] border! However, there is no confirmation that this very border works infallibly “upon entry” into Ukraine from the Russian side.

But for Russian dumbass-mercenaries and their pro-Russian brothers in Donbas, this is a vivid illustration that Putin abandoned them. And that there are two ways out–either to die for God-knows-what, or to lay down their arms and save their worthless hides.
Dit vind ik een interessante. Het suggereert dat Poetin de crisis in Oekrane ook gebruikt om terroristen van de Kaukasus kwijt te raken?
  vrijdag 4 juli 2014 @ 22:37:48 #208
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0s.gif Op vrijdag 4 juli 2014 22:17 schreef Igen het volgende:

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Dit vind ik een interessante. Het suggereert dat Poetin de crisis in Oekrane ook gebruikt om terroristen van de Kaukasus kwijt te raken?
Mogelijk. Als je het combineert met het de volgende post, dan is de positie van de rebellen niet aantrekkelijk.

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0s.gif Op vrijdag 4 juli 2014 14:43 schreef deelnemer het volgende:
National Security Council geeft ook verslagen van de ontwikkeling.

Laatste update over de gebeurtenissen

2 & 3 Juli
CONSOLIDATED NEWS FROM THE NSC NEWS & ANALYSIS CENTER
In de post hierboven staat:

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At the same time, more and more militants are raising the white flag to get closer to checkpoints and open fire against the soldiers manning those posts. Ukraine’s forces are responding appropriately to these actions, Andriy Lysenko, spokesperson for the National Security Council’s News & Analysis Center, reported at the Center’s evening briefing, July 3, 2014.
Hoe maakt je het verschil tussen rebellen die zich willen overgeven en rebellen die willen aanvallen, zonder risico's te nemen? Het klinkt als een excuus om rebellen die zich willen overgeven gewoon neer te schieten.
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Sloviansk, Kramatorsk preparing for evacuation

KYIV, July 4 /Ukrinform/.

The headquarters on the temporary evacuation of displaced persons is planning to organize next week the mass transportation of civilian population from Kramatorsk and Sloviansk, as well as other towns in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions.

The interior minister's adviser, Zorian Shkiriak, said this at a briefing on Friday, a Ukrinform correspondent reported.
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The process of organized transportation [from hot spots], admission, accommodation, coordination, as well as the receipt of information and assistance so that people could go and stay for a while in another region, will be globally carried out next week.
He said that the State Services on Emergency Situations was currently engaged in the establishment of several temporary transit points, the organization for proper sanitary conditions for them, the system of nutrition and subsequent transportation to the places of residence in other regions of Ukraine.

Shkiriak said that the names of specific settlements where civilians will be brought from the area of the anti-terrorist operation would be known on Monday when a complete evacuation plan is disclosed.

He said that the state takes responsibility for ensuring the effective protection of those leaving the Donbas. He noted that thousands of people were expected to leave the towns where military hostilities are ongoing.

Russia threatens Ukraine with direct military aggression - NSDC

KYIV, July 4 /Ukrinform/.

A propaganda campaign on bringing so-called Russian "peacekeepers" to Ukraine, which has recently intensified, can only be regarded as a threat of direct military aggression, Secretary of the National Security and Defence Council (NSDC) Andriy Parubiy told reporters in Kyiv on Friday.

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Bringing a peacekeeping mission can only occur under the auspices of the UN. What Russia and its leadership proclaim is a threat of direct aggression against Ukraine.

Their aggression is due to the fact that it has become more difficult for them to maneuver, because border guards and the Armed Forces of Ukraine are establishing border control.


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  vrijdag 4 juli 2014 @ 22:58:16 #210
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Nine Ukrainian servicemen killed on Friday

KYIV, July 4 /Ukrinform/.

The anti-terrorist operation (ATO) forces have lost nine Ukrainian servicemen as of 14.00 on Friday, and 13 more have been wounded, the ATO press center has reported on its Facebook page.
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Kiev says 13 military personnel killed in fighting in east Ukraine

(Reuters) - At least 13 Ukrainian military personnel were killed in separate incidents on Friday in fighting against pro-Russian rebels in eastern Ukraine, a statement from the headquarters of Ukraine's "anti-terrorist operation" said. Nine others were wounded.
Reuters draait de aantallen om.

ChristopherJM twitterde op vrijdag 04-07-2014 om 17:24:15 At least 13 Ukrainian servicemen killed today in clashes with pro-Russian rebels in east #Ukraine - ATO statement. Troop death toll: 213+ reageer retweet
ChristopherJM twitterde op vrijdag 04-07-2014 om 17:32:54 @ChristopherJM CORRECTION: That's 9 Ukrainian troops dead, 13 wounded in fighting with rebels today - ATO press service reageer retweet
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125 Ukrainian servicemen killed in combat operations in Luhansk region since July 2

LUHANSK, July 04. /ITAR-TASS/.

As many as 125 Ukrainian servicemen have been killed in combat operation in the territory of the newly proclaimed Luhansk Peoples Republic since July 2, the press service of the Luhansk Peoples Republic said on Friday.

The Luhansk Republics forces, according to the press service, destroyed a Grad multiple launch rocket system, a mortar battery, two armored personnel carriers, four tanks, three infantry fighting vehicles, four howitzers and three planes of the Ukrainian army.

Since July 2, the foe has been continuously shelling and bombing a number of cities and settlements in the Luhansk Peoples Republic, including suburbs of the capital city. Retaliation fire destroyed a tent of Ukrainian army officers, the press service said. Self-defense forces are concentrated on two key tasks: to defend Luhansk and the Izvarino check point at the border with Russia.
Volgens de rebellen zijn er in twee 125 Oekrainse soldaten gedood in 2 dagen. Die aantallen zijn vergelijkbaar met, en net zo ongeloofwaardig als, de aantallen die de woordvoerder van ATO altijd geeft voor gedode rebellen.

Later bericht.
lennutrajektoor twitterde op vrijdag 04-07-2014 om 20:55:30 July 4 #ATO death toll 9 KIA 14 WIA. #Ukraine reageer retweet


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Het klinkt alsof het einde van dit conflict nadert zonder dat Rusland zich er nog echt mee gaat bemoeien.
  vrijdag 4 juli 2014 @ 23:27:13 #212
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Regional admin: battles raging in much of Donetsk region

The administration of Donetsk region on Friday said fighting between government and illegal armed forces was underway currently in the region's city of Kramatorsk, districts of Artemivsk, Maryinka and Yasynuvata, and city and district of Sloviansk.

The administration said in a statement that government forces were currently besieging the town of Mykolayivka near Sloviansk and had destroyed six strongpoints and an ammunition depot of separatists, who were trying to retain their positions.

In the town of Sloviansk, the Karachun mountain was still under fire. In the village of Semenivka near Kramatorsk, an ammunition and weapons depot had been destroyed, and government forces had taken control of part of an arterial motor road linking Kharkiv in Ukraine to Rostov-on-Don in Russia, the statement said.

There were recurrent artillery attacks in Kramatorsk, with civilians having been injured, the public transportation system paralyzed, and disruptions in electricity and natural gas supply in villages on the city outskirts, the administration said.

Gunfire was raging in the town of Siversk and villages of Kirovka and Novoluhanske in Artemivsk district. The local airspace was under the control of the government air force. In the village of Reznikivka, electricity transmission lines, the water supply system and natural gas pipelines had been damaged, and communications were severed, the statement said.

In Shakhtarsk district, battles were in progress in Saur-Mohyla. "Gunfire is making it impossible to restore electricity supply in Dmytrivka and Stepanivka," the administration said.

Ukraine government forces take control of village near Sloviansk - Avakov

Ukrainian government forces took full control of the village of Mykolaivka near Sloviansk in Donetsk region by July 4 evening, taking about 50 militiamen prisoner, Interior Minister Arsen Avakov said.

lennutrajektoor twitterde op vrijdag 04-07-2014 om 23:05:39 Battalion "#Donbas" announced #Nikolevka is purged. It's again #Ukraine again. #ATO reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op vrijdag 04-07-2014 om 20:08:22 #Tymchuk #Nikolaevka purge is excellent example how #ATO's should be done without collateral damage. Encircle, eliminate, spare civilians, done. reageer retweet


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  vrijdag 4 juli 2014 @ 23:33:39 #213
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Ukraine calls Ukraine-Russia-OSCE contact group meeting on situation in east on July 5 – Poroshenko, Ashton

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko during a telephone conversation with EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Catherine Ashton said Ukraine had proposed a venue for the next meeting of the Ukraine-Russia-OSCE contact group to settle the situation in the eastern part of the country.
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The head of the state assured that, as a part of the Berlin agreements between the foreign ministers of four countries, Ukraine is prepared for the further work of three-party contact group, in particular, to conduct another meeting on July 5. Ukraine has proposed venue for the meeting and is waiting for confirmation from the other side
Poroshenko also said that after the ceasefire ended, Ukraine sustained fewer losses than when it was in force, as the militants failed to observe the ceasefire. According to him, in this situation, he, based on the National Security and Defense Council's decision, had to restore counter-terror operation.

As reported, on July 2, the foreign ministers of Germany, France, Russia and Ukraine during their meeting in Berlin said that the Ukraine-Russia-OSCE contact group on the settlement of the situation in Ukraine's east should convene no later than July 5, with the goal of reaching agreement on a ceasefire.
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Police headquarters being moved out of cities of Donetsk, Luhansk

The police headquarters in the regions of Donetsk and Luhansk are being temporarily relocated, being moved out of the cities of Donetsk and Luhansk, the Interior Ministry said on July 4.

The headquarters of Donetsk is moving to Mariupol and that of Luhansk to Svatove. Their personnel are to arrive at the new sites of service by July 7, the ministry says in an address to the two regions' police forces.
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  zaterdag 5 juli 2014 @ 01:20:22 #215
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Donetsk: de brand op het vliegveld vanmorgen was het afbranden van de hangars.
lennutrajektoor twitterde op vrijdag 04-07-2014 om 21:03:57 July 4 morning terrorists in #Donetsk attacked airport fr 3 directions w goal to seize the runway & the tower. Hangars got hit, burned down. reageer retweet
AlexandruC4 twitterde op vrijdag 04-07-2014 om 14:30:29 BREAKING: MOLDOVA SHUTS DOWN ROSSIA 24 TV CHANNEL ALL OVER ITS TERRITORY http://t.co/rvLp0xrvAO reageer retweet
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Moldova’s TV and Radio Broadcast Authorities Ban Russia 24 TV

Moldova’s Coordination Council for Television and Radio Broadcasts took the decision at its meeting on Friday for the reason that the channel’s programs were allegedly mismatching the principles of Moldova’s TV broadcasting code.

In April, Ukraine banned the Russian TV channel.
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  zaterdag 5 juli 2014 @ 01:22:17 #216
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Girkin aka Strelkov ontsnapt uit Slaviansk?

lennutrajektoor twitterde op vrijdag 04-07-2014 om 23:20:59 In #Slaviansk immense battle started. Fights on highway & fields around. #Ukraine #ATO reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 00:31:10 2 NONAs in #Slaviansk shell #Kramatorks airfield.Not clear what's up. #ATO reports around 100 men runs over field fr #laviansk to Kramatorsk reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 00:26:27 2 terrorists' columns try to break through #Slaviansk. #ATO artillery works on them. Plus battle on road fr #Slaviansk to #Kramatorks. reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 00:48:18 2 terrorists armour columns fr #Slaviansk escaped through Chalk hills to #Kramatorsk & now making the way out to #Druzhkivka. reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 00:49:03 #Slaviamsk is abandoned. #ATO may just walk in & knock on the mayor door in city hall. #Ukraine reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 00:57:10 #RUS media channel Vesti just now break the news of #Girkin aka #Strelok escape. #Ukraine #ATO reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 01:09:27 #BreakingReports: #Strelkov is fleeing #Sloviansk after seeing no chance to hold or even win it anymore.#Ukraine reageer retweet


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  zaterdag 5 juli 2014 @ 09:31:28 #217
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Pro-Russian Separatists Reportedly Flee Slavyansk, Releasing Prisoners

Information Resistance, a military analytical group close to the Ukrainian armed forces, reports that at dawn, pro-Russian separatists fled the city of Slavyansk, leaving behind their prisoners.

The Interpreter has translated the story:

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Pro-Russian terrorists have left Slavyansk. They have left all the buildings they had previously sezied and all the checkpoints on the road to Kramatorsk. This has been reported by eye-witnesses who were previously in captivity at the Slavyansk Interior Ministry City Department and now have now broken free on their own today at dawn.

According to the eye-witnesses who were being held prisoner in the Slavyansk City Department, they discovered the guards were missing at night, but were afraid of going out in the dark, expecting a provocation. OstroV has covered the story.

People left the Slavyansk Interior Ministry City Department as it grew light, at about 3:40 am. Everything was thrown aside in the offices of the Department -- personal items, guns, even money.

The detainees did not see a single terrorist in Slavyansk. They drove off to Kramatorsk without hindrance. According to them, all the checkpoints are empty on the road to Kramatorsk.

According to another source, in Kramatorsk there has been active movement observed along Kima Street, leading toward Artyomovsk. There are tank treads visible. It is supposed that the terrorists have broken through in that direction.

The eyewitnesses emphasize that most of the separatists are dressed in civilian clothing and traveling in civilian cars.
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Col. Strelkov Reportedly Gives Demobilization Order to Pro-Russian Separatists

As separatists reportedly fled their stronghold in Slavyansk at dawn today, news has come out about a reported demobilization order from Col. Igor Strelkov (whose real last name is Girkin). We have not been able to confirm the authenticity of the document.



Vertaling door The Interpreter:
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On Demobilization of the Personnel of the DPR's Militia

In connection with the decisive actions of the Ukrainian forces, their superiority in numbers of personnel, armaments and better material supplies, waging battle becomes all the more difficult. The people's militia is suffering great losses. Unfortunately, Russia has refused to support our numerous requests for support and bringing in forces to the territory of the Donetsk People's Republic. These were only empty words and promises. Putin does not want to see us in his office. The border with Russia is closed, and the delivery of assistance is becoming more and more problematic. He is indifferent to our lives.

We have defended the Donetsk People's Republic with honor, however I believe that further resistance will only lead to an increase in losses on our side and the further complete destruction of the militia.

With the purpose of preserving the lives of militia personnel, I order:

1. To demobilize militia personnel in the DPR.
2. Militia personnel to return to their places of residence.
3. For the purposes of security to make the move without arms in civilian clothing.
4. Oversight for fulfillment of this order is assigned to F.D. Berezin.

[Signed]
[Seal]

I.I. Strelkov
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Leader of Orthodox Church, Metropolitan Volodymyr, dies aged 78

Leader of Ukrainian Orthodox Church subordinate to the Moscow Patriarchate, Metropolitan Volodymyr (Sabodan) died on July 5 aged 78, the church said in a statement.

Metropolitan Volodymyr has been in grave health for months, and died in a Kyiv hospital, where he was treated for an internal bleeding, Ukrainian media reported. He has been largely absent from the public eye lately, struggling with cancer and Parkinson disease. He had also undergone a heart and a hip surgery, according to UNIAN news agency.

The patriarch led the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate) since 1992. An ethnic Ukrainian, he was believed to be a unifying, and pro-Ukrainian figure in the church controlled by Moscow, which allowed its Kyiv branch a certain degree of independence.
De rest van het artikel is een complot theorie

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Ukraine's 1+1 television channel said in a June 22 report that the previous government attempted to kill Metropolitan Volodymyr.

Fr. Oleksandr Drabynko, his aide, said that former General Prosecutor Viktor Pshonka and former Interior Minister Oleksandr Zakharchenko, both hiding in Russia, are under investigation in Ukraine.

"The metropolitan complained that they tormented him" during their frequent visit to the hospital, Fr. Drabynko said.

Representatives of the Kyiv Patrirchate, a sister church that is not subordinate to Moscow, said that because a metropolitan is appointed to life, there was no way to replace freedom-loving, pro-Ukrainian Metropolitan Volodymyr until he died, by a more Kremlin-friendly leader.

"To replace him, it was needed that he was gone to the next world, this is why they treated him the way they did," Patriarch Filaret, leader of Orthodox Church, Kyiv Patriarchate, told 1+1 TV.

His assistant Fr. Drabynko was kept under guard and away from the metropolitan for most of last year, while state-appointed doctors kept his lethal diagnosis secret from him, his assistant maintains.

Patriarch Volodymyr himself complained about a threat to his life in his last letter to Interior Minister Zakharchenko in December 2013.

"I totally do not want to believe that people who have been taking decisions to change this situation are interested in keeping me without the medical assistance that I require," he wrote.
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StateOfUkraine twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 01:52:09 Avakov: Ukrainian forces destroyed (pro) Russian headquarters in Artemivsk (#Donetsk region) #Ukraine http://t.co/bds1aEKLZ9 reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 01:23:25 Tymchuk confirms: Entire Russian convoys are driven to the border by regular troops and left their for take-over by Russian irregulars. reageer retweet
Vannacht t/m nu
StateOfUkraine twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 02:01:47 (pro-) Russian fighters are reportedly trying to flee #Sloviansk #Ukraine now and heading to #Kramatorsk http://t.co/1nr1pA4EqL reageer retweet
StateOfUkraine twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 07:26:50 A few locals in #Sloviansk #Ukraine are reporting that (pro-) Russian fighters are no longer manning many of their checkpoints/may have fled reageer retweet
StateOfUkraine twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 08:05:03 It appears that most (pro-) Russian fighters have fled #Sloviansk & are now in nearby #Kramatorsk #Ukraine. People they kidnapped now free. reageer retweet
StateOfUkraine twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 09:10:16 (pro-) Russian fighters fled #Sloviansk & took ~50 armored vehicles with them to #Kramatorsk but many fighters went to #Donetsk #Ukraine reageer retweet
StateOfUkraine twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 09:16:51 (pro-) Russian fighters are fleeing south & appear to be heading from #Kramatorsk to #Donetsk #Ukraine where they will consolidate forces. reageer retweet
StateOfUkraine twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 09:47:56 #Ukraine's interior minister says (pro-) Russia fighters are heading to #Horlivka but #Dontesk appears to be an equally likely destination reageer retweet
StateOfUkraine twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 10:33:00 Tymchuk: ~1000 (pro-) #Russia fighters + local criminal groups are leaving #Kramatorsk via stolen cars and heading to #Donetsk #Ukraine reageer retweet
StateOfUkraine twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 11:09:19 Some RU fighters/local pro-RU remain in #Sloviansk & #Kramatorsk, in hospitals & at a few checkpoints. #Ukraine forces negotiating witk them. reageer retweet


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Pro-Russische Tweeters

gbazov twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 08:14:40 #AUDIENCE: As hard as it is, I am becoming more and more convinced that Igor #Strelkov should withdraw from #Slavyansk to save civilians. reageer retweet
NewsAlliance twitterde op vrijdag 04-07-2014 om 19:50:05 No matter what happens now in Eastern Ukraine... #Strelkov will become a folk hero and #Poroshenko a war criminal... http://t.co/5s8aXZS4zi reageer retweet
Novorossiyan twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 10:18:11 #Ukraine clearly delighting in terrorizing the people of the southeast, destroying their towns, murdering innocent women and children. reageer retweet
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These were only empty words and promises. Putin does not want to see us in his office. The border with Russia is closed, and the delivery of assistance is becoming more and more problematic. He is indifferent to our lives.
Het lijkt erop dat Putin straks een hoop boze rebellen aan zijn grens krijgt.
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gbazov twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 10:32:31 #ALL: Oh, and before I leave ... :) - Pravda.ru published my full translation of Strelkov's statement verbatim: http://t.co/kdtMt8ixLd reageer retweet
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Urgent appeal: Message from Slavyansk

Igor Strelkov makes an urgent appeal to the international community as western-backed Ukrainian forces slaughter Russian-speaking citizens, strafing women and children with military hardware. Washing, Paris and London look on and continue to support the Ukrainian government. A massacre is taking place, the west is dancing with the Devil.

Urgent Appeal by Igor Strelkov, July 4, 2014

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Zie ook post 204 hierboven

Nikolaevka / Mykolayivka (zie ook post 219; punt 2 van het goede nieuws -O-)
Truth_Seeker_11 twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 01:12:29 And #Ukraine army said no civilian casualties. Look what they did in #Nikolaevka! http://t.co/xZEtu5EeqC reageer retweet




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Ontkenningsfase?

gbazov twitterde op vrijdag 04-07-2014 om 21:20:48 #BREAKING #IMPORTANT: #Ukraine DOES NOT CONTROL #Nikolayevka. #NazGuard has entrenched itself on outskirts, not centre. #NAF controls centre reageer retweet
gbazov twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 08:13:56 #AUDIENCE: No truth to the disinfo that #Ukraine has taken control of #Artyomovks. On the contrary, the attack was repelled, per my info. reageer retweet
gbazov twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 10:18:29 #AUDIENCE: A bit of good news for you. #NAF has partially cleared #Donetsk airport from #Nazis. Fighting is continuing as we speak. reageer retweet
gbazov twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 10:21:29 #AUDIENCE: Oh, and #Strelkov informs that everything is according to plan. He remains CommanderInChief and will be continuing the fight. ;) reageer retweet
gbazov twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 10:25:13 #AUDIENCE: And, one more thing - neither #Slavyansk nor #Nikolayevka have been abandoned. Nor will they be abandoned. Will explain later. reageer retweet
gbazov twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 11:04:57 #ALL Ok, I AM going to sleep. No panic and no surrender. We hold Slavyansk, Nikolayevka and are taking over Donetsk airport. Talk soon. reageer retweet
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Het NOS-bericht:
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Separatisten weg uit Slavjansk

zaterdag 5 jul 2014, 10:25 (Update: 05-07-14, 11:17)

De pro-Russische separatisten hebben de stad Slavjansk in het oosten van Oekrane verlaten. Dat hebben ze zelf bevestigd. Het Oekraense leger heeft de stad nog niet helemaal in handen.

Vanmorgen zeiden de Oekraense autoriteiten dat grote groepen separatisten de stad hadden verlaten, maar dat er nog wel rebellen in Slavjansk waren. Ook die zijn nu vertrokken, melden Oekraense media en het Russische persbureau ITAR-TASS.

Het kantoor van president Porosjenko meldt dat het leger het bevel heeft gekregen om in Slavjansk de Oekraense vlag te hijsen.

Bolwerk
"Slavjansk is n van de belangrijkste bolwerken van de separatisten", zegt NOS-correspondent David Jan Godfroid. "De stad is wekenlang bestookt door Oekraense artillerie en vliegtuigen.

Het is volgens hem niet duidelijk waar de gevluchte separatisten nu zijn. "Het is mogelijk dat ze naar Kramatorsk zijn gegaan, maar dat is niet zeker."

Rusland en Oekrane werken aan een nieuwe wapenstilstand in het oosten van Oekrane. Uiterlijk vandaag willen de partijen met de separatisten om de tafel. Waar die gesprekken plaats moeten vinden is niet duidelijk.
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Er zijn ook meerdere geruchten dat de Russen vanaf de zee van Azov (daar wordt nu een 'miliaire oefening' gehouden) schieten op doelen in Oekraine.

Vannacht

Border Guard CheckPoint (BGCP) Novoselovka
lennutrajektoor twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 01:11:52 Someone shelled w 120mm mortars #Novoazovsk BGCP just now, the premises is on fire. reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 01:14:21 This is just in: #RUS fleet shells #Novoazovsk BGCP from the Azov sea. The BGCP is on fire. Confirmed. #Ukraine reageer retweet

Truth_Seeker_11 twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 10:18:17 Ukrainian check point in #Novoselovka, #Donetsk region got destroyed. 7 soldiers KIA http://t.co/V92lLJR0ej reageer retweet


Vandaag

Border guard station in Obryv
StateOfUkraine twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 11:27:01 2 boats with Russian forces attacked a border guard station in Obryv #Ukraine on the Azov Sea killing 1 UA serviceman http://t.co/PnzoBQgoOf reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 12:39:25 #BREAKINGNEWS RUSSIAN TROOPS/VOLUNTEERS CONDUCTED A SEABORNE INVASION IN SEDOV. 1 UKR TROOPER KILLED, 8 INJURED http://t.co/0SQRsS5jxt reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 12:47:49 An Ukrainian sea border observation post was destroyed in the attack.Landing location: http://t.co/6FW2AJKJBH http://t.co/KLhZSPOAnC reageer retweet


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Afgelopen nacht in de stad Donetsk
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 00:34:35 #BreakingNews Russian invaders stormed the Ukrainian military base 3004 in #Donetsk city tonight. Heavy fighting. https://t.co/4T0hkEVbJf reageer retweet
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Donetsk
lennutrajektoor twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 11:23:21 #ATO air force makes air rides in #Donetsk on terrorists' position. Two massive raids on Putilovsky bridge CP @ 12:00. #Ukraine reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 11:42:24 The main column of fleeing #Slaviansk vehicles have reached #Donetsk city centre. #Girkin aka #Strelok made it. #Ukraine #ATO reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 12:00:32 Just in: Terrorists' armour column in #Horlivka heading towards #Artemivsk / #Dzerzhynske direction. #Ukraine #ATO reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 12:02:09 Some of the fleeing column fr #Slaviansk have stopped by #Donetsk #SBU HQ. #Ukraine #ATO reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 12:12:09 Per locals on July 5 after Krasnyi Yar was shelled w GRADs #Kadyrovs came to finish everyone off. #Ukraine #ATO https://t.co/EHP7DNI2Y7 reageer retweet
Lugansk
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Doet het leger toch knap :)
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Postpone Ratification Association Agreement with EU ???

RutheniaRus twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 11:02:29 Some European capitals persuading #Kiev to postpone ratification AA with EU, as a major irritant for #Russia - diplomatic sources | ZN.UA reageer retweet
RutheniaRus twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 11:18:46 If Ukraine hadnt agreed to tripartite consultations EU-Ukraine-Russia on AA with EU, the signing with Ukraine June 27 wouldn't have happened reageer retweet
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Rusland heeft goede vrienden in Europa.
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De val van Sloviansk is het keerpunt in dit conflict. Misschien nog even meer terrein winnen en daarna is het conflict rijp om verder diplomatiek afgehandeld te worden.
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Strelkov and Militia Briefings, July 5, 2014

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De val van Sloviansk is het keerpunt in dit conflict. Misschien nog even meer terrein winnen en daarna is het conflict rijp om verder diplomatiek afgehandeld te worden.
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De Russen zijn nog lang niet verslagen vermoed ik, het Oekranse leger profiteert van zijn slagkracht door veel artillerie in te zetten. Het wegtrekken van de pro-Russen uit Slavjansk is logisch om meer slachtoffers te voorkomen, aangezien ze in de val zaten en gemakkelijk doelwit waren van inkomend vuur. Ze zullen iets moeten bedenken om de artilleriebeschietingen af te slaan, met alleen geweren en raketwerpers is dat lastig.
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Rebellen Oekrane verliezen terrein

Toegevoegd: zaterdag 5 jul 2014, 14:06

Niet alleen in Slavjansk, maar ook in andere delen van Oost-Oekrane lijken pro-Russische separatisten terrein te verliezen. Een rebellenleider heeft tegen het Russische persbureau Interfax gezegd dat zijn mannen verschillende posities aan het front hebben verlaten.

Aleksander Borodai van de zelf uitgeroepen Volksrepubliek Donetsk zegt dat Oekraense troepen met een groot offensief bezig zijn.

Vooruitgeschoven posities
"Eenheden van de Volksrepubliek Donetsk hebben vooruitgeschoven posities verlaten en andere stellingen betrokken", zei Borodai. Hij meldt ook dat ze dat deden omdat Oekraense militairen veruit in de meerderheid waren.

Niet overal lijken de rebellen in het defensief. Er zijn berichten dat ze het vliegveld van Donetsk aanvallen, waar in mei ook werd gevochten. Als de gevechten zich naar die stad verplaatsen, is dat rampzalig voor de burgerbevolking", zegt NOS-correspondent David Jan Godfroid. "In Donetsk wonen een miljoen mensen."
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ITAR-TASS Reports Separatists Have Fled Slavyansk, Headed to Kramotorsk

As of 11:08 am local time, ITAR-TASS reported that pro-Russian separatists have fled Slavyansk, and are headed toward Karamatorsk and Artyomovsk. An ambulance taking wounded out of the city has come under fire. The Interpreter has translated an excerpt of the story:

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Fighters of the people's militia of Slavyansk left the city early Saturday morning. The headquarters of the militia is being moved to Kramatorsk.

According to the status as of Saturday morning, Slavyansk was practically emptied out. The city was once again bombed last night, people left Slavyansk in columns headed toward Kramatorsk.

It is known that two ambulances taking wounded from the hospital fell under fire despite the fact that Ukrainian authorities promised to organize a humanitarian corridor for those wishing to leave Slavyansk. The number of deaths and injuries are being clarified.

The Slavyansk hospital is being evacuated to Donetsk. The chief physician of the hospital in Donetsk reported that there are few personnel, everyone is busy placing wounded fighters. There are twice as many wounded now.

The villages of Semyonovka and Nikolayeva which had for a long time been the only corridor linking with Donetsk is now occupied by Ukrainian soldiers.
Meanwhile, Oleksiy Matsuka, editor of Novosti Donbass, has posted the following comment on his Facebook page, translated by The Interpreter:

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It is already known for certain that the goal of Strelkovs' terrorists is Donetsk. They intend to consolidate a stronghold in the city, the local DPR separatists no longer control the situation in the city. Now it is not clear whether the "Vostok" Batallion will accept the gang of Strelkovites and what they will come to an agreement about -- an alliance, or whether the Vostokites will not allow the Strelkovites in and there will be a bloodbath.
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RBK Reports Separatists Fled, Ukrainian Army Controls Slavyansk

Citing Russia's state Channel 1, RBK is reporting that separatists have fled Slavyansk and the Ukrainian Army has taken control of the city. The Interpreter has translated an excerpt:

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Slavyansk has fallen under control of Ukrainian forces early this morning 5 July, and protesters have been forced to leave town, the headquarters of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic confirmed for Channel 1.

At first there was a massive shelling of the city. According to eyewitnesses, Ukrainian military and fighters of the National Guard closed a circle around Slavyansk, tanks and infantry entered the town, and street-fighting began. Then the militia decided to retreat.

They have broken through to Kramatorsk, despite solid firing from the side of the Ukrainian soldiers. As Novosti Donbassa has reported, the militia have left Slavyansk and are headed toward Kramatorsk and Artyomovsk. According to eye-witnesses, followers of one of the leaders of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic Igor Strelkov have hoisted the flag of the Strelkovites over the city council building in Kramatorsk.

Ukrainian media are citing reports from eye-witnesses on social networks. Thus, in the Kramatorsk group on Facebook, users are describing columns of two tanks, three KAMAZ trucks and eight cars without headlights hurrying along the highway from Slavyansk. The column is headed toward the center of Kramatorsk, where the headquarters of the local militia is located.

Twitter users have reported 50 vehicles which have broken through to Kramatorsk. Eyewitnesses also noted that one of the BTRS and five of the cars with militia are in the district of Lazurny.
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Oh oh,

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Het lijkt erop dat Putin straks een hoop boze rebellen aan zijn grens krijgt.
Schijnbaar was de Krim Putin zijn enige doel en voor de rest maakt het hem bar weinig uit :).
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Schijnbaar was de Krim Putin zijn enige doel en voor de rest maakt het hem bar weinig uit :).
Dat dacht je. Hij wilt op zijn minst de zee van Azov voor renewable energy production, zodat hij er een meer van kan maken. En zo te zien is hij al aan het kijken hoe de wereld reageert nu hij daar op de kust van Oekraine schiet tijdens zijn 'oefening'.

Je zal zien dat hij daar een 'buffer' gaat maken zogenaamd om terugtrekkende strijders, burgers en vluchtelingen te beschermen.

Ondertussen annexeert hij de hele kuststrook.

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Vannacht een tragedy in Vergunovka

Family and neighbours gathered to mourn the death of 22-year-old Dmitry Kirillenko who died during an overnight shelling attack in the village of Vergunovka, located around 10 kilometres from Lugansk, Saturday.

Vanmorgen: DPR militia arrive in Kramatorsk

Hulpgoederen bereiken nu Saviansk
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 14:59:14 Ukr president #Poroshenko: A humanitarian mission is starting to roll in #Sloviansk, bring much-needed goods to its people. #Ukraine reageer retweet
Luchtaanvallen op het vliegveld van Donetsk
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 13:22:12 #BREAKINGNEWS Ukrainian air force jets are pounding targets around #Donetsk airport right now! reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 14:32:55 Booms from the direction of #Donetsk airport during the last hours. https://t.co/dV46ctCA33 #Ukraine reageer retweet

Seleznivka (Donetsk region)
lennutrajektoor twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 13:15:49 Battalion "#Donbas" reports just now #Seleznivka in #Luhansk region is purged. Terrorists flee in panic. #Ukraine #ATO reageer retweet
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lennutrajektoor twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 15:29:15 Per leaked info the 2 km long 2 lane wide fleeing #Slaviansk column wasn't enganged per MoD personal orders. http://t.co/zBxivZ6K6u reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 16:18:27 Head of MIA & head of #SBU had rift when the terrorists' fled fr #Slaviansk & no order to engage came. #Ukraine reageer retweet
StateOfUkraine twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 14:07:04 Tymchuk: UA forces could not bomb (pro-) Russian forces fleeing from #Sloviansk because they used stolen cars & blended in with civilians reageer retweet
(MIA = Ministrie van binnenlandse zaken; SBU = Veiligheidsdienst)
lennutrajektoor twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 15:51:28 NSC General Secretary: We let the terrorists out of #Slaviansk to prevent loss among civilians. (#Donetsk has population of 1 million!) reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 16:22:29 Reports coming terrorists are leaving #Kramatorsk. Large columns heading to #Donetsk. So Kramatorsk will be soon "liberated" too. Smth fishy reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 16:59:11 Babay, who resided in #Kramatorks, said he left heading towards #Donetsk. #Ukraine #ATO reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 16:47:57 #Tymchuk #Germany like a mad cow makes immense pressure on #Ukraine to stop #ATO & have Zen like peaceful solution of conflict. reageer retweet
RutheniaRus twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 16:49:47 @vlad_the_small Everybody asking why there were no airstrikes at convoys. No explanation. reageer retweet
LawDavF twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 16:59:48 @RutheniaRus @FSwissmartini @vlad_the_small Airstrikes v retreating convoys not good for reputation. If want to stop best do so on ground. reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 13:54:59 Without going much into details July 5 19:00 by Kiev time and hours after that are crucial ones. #Ukraine #ATO reageer retweet


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lennutrajektoor twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 17:42:54 Weapons cache fleeing #RUS terrorists left in #Slaviansk. HOLY MOLY! #Ukraine #ATO http://t.co/w0dQARLqma reageer retweet
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Volgend de pro-Russen is het opgeven van Slaviansk strategie.

StateOfUkraine twitterde op zaterdag 05-07-2014 om 12:41:19 (pro-) Russian leadership in E. #Ukraine says that retreat from #Sloviansk is a strategic move & they're still waiting for #Russia to help reageer retweet
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Slavyansk is out of sight now …

I understand and share in the bitterness and resentment of those who found out this morning that the Militia has left Slavyansk. The news washed over everyone – the hoorah-patriots, the all-is-lost-patriots and even the cold analytical types. And now, please listen to a person who spent the last month and a half in Slavyansk.

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Maar er ging een diep gehuil aan vooraf dat Rusland hen in de steek had gelaten (zie post 204).
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En nu komen de berichten uit Slavjansk: http://www.faz.net/aktuel(...)nd-weg-13029665.html
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Woordvoerders van de strijdkrachten beweren, dat gezien is hoe rebellen tot dicht bij legerstellingen geslopen waren om van daaruit hun eigen stad te beschieten en het zo te laten lijken alsof de strijdkrachten harteloos de eigen bevolking afslachten.

Een van de vluchtelingen, waarmee de Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung sprak, heeft deze variant bevestigt. Hij heeft kunnen zien hoe opstandelingen met een granaatwerper richting het centrum hebben geschoten. De man, die getraumatiseerd overkwam, wou zijn naam niet noemen. Toen hij sprak, was het vluchten van de rebellen nog niet bekend. Hij zei dat hij angst had dat zijn familie iets kon overkomen, als bekend zou worden dat hij over de heerschappen in Slavjansk zou hebben geroddeld. Iedereen in de stad had angst.
En ook dat rebellen zich overal in woonhuizen, tussen burgers verschansen enzo.

Ook leuk voor wie Duits kan: een kijkje in de keuken (tekst, geen plaatjes) in het hoofdkantoor van de separatisten in Donetsk: http://www.faz.net/aktuel(...)reunde-13025835.html

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En nu komen de berichten uit Slavjansk: http://www.faz.net/aktuel(...)nd-weg-13029665.html

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En ook dat rebellen zich overal in woonhuizen, tussen burgers verschansen enzo.

Ook leuk voor wie Duits kan: een kijkje in de keuken (tekst, geen plaatjes) in het hoofdkantoor van de separatisten in Donetsk: http://www.faz.net/aktuel(...)reunde-13025835.html
Naar de vijandige linies sluipen om dan de eigen stad te beschieten lijkt me overigens wel heel ver gezocht.
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