Bij retoriek blijft het anders zouden er nu al echte sancties zijn.quote:Op vrijdag 28 maart 2014 15:12 schreef SureD1 het volgende:
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Als hij dat echt denkt dan gaat Vladje zich vies verslikken... De retoriek is heel anders als destijds in Geörgie. De hakken gaan (en staan) al in het zand...
Hele stuk te lezen op:quote:The Danger of False Narrative
March 27, 2014 by Robert Parry
Exclusive: Like a decade ago with Iraq, Official Washington’s pundits and pols are locked shoulder-to-shoulder in a phalanx of misguided consensus on Ukraine, presenting a false narrative that is taking U.S. policy into dangerous directions, writes Robert Parry.
The American people got a nasty taste of the danger that can come with false narrative when they were suckered into the Iraq War based on bogus claims that Saddam Hussein was hiding weapons of mass destruction that he planned to share with al-Qaeda.
Nearly 4,500 U.S. soldiers died in the conflict along with hundreds thousands of Iraqis. The war’s total financial cost probably exceeded $1 trillion, a vast sum that siphoned off America’s economic vitality and forced cutbacks in everything from education to road repair. Plus, the war ended up creating an Iraqi base for al-Qaeda terrorists that had not existed before.
But perhaps an even more dangerous problem coming out of the Iraq War was that almost no one in Official Washington who pushed the false narrative – whether in politics or in the press – was held accountable in any meaningful way. Many of the same pols and pundits remain in place today, pushing similar false narratives on new crises, from Ukraine to Syria to Iran.
Those false narratives – and their cumulative effect on policymaking – now represent a clear and present danger to the Republic and, indeed, to the world. The United States, after all, is the preeminent superpower with unprecedented means for delivering death and destruction. But almost nothing is being done to address this enduring American crisis of deception.
Today, Official Washington is marching in lockstep just as it did in 2002-03 when it enforced the misguided consensus on Iraq’s WMD. The latest case is Ukraine where Russian President Vladimir Putin is accused of committing “aggression” to expand Russian territory at the expense of noble ”democratic” reformers in Kiev.
Not only is this the dominant storyline in the U.S. media; it is virtually the only narrative permitted in the mainstream press. But the real narrative is that the United States and the European Union provoked this crisis by trying to take Ukraine out of its traditional sphere of influence, Russia, and put it in to a new association with the EU.
While there’s nothing inherently wrong with Ukraine joining with the EU or staying with Russia (or a combination of the two) – depending on the will of the people and their elected representatives – this latest U.S./EU plan was motivated, at least in part, by hostility toward Russia.
That attitude was expressed in a Sept. 26, 2013, op-ed in the Washington Post by Carl Gershman, the neoconservative president of the National Endowment for Democracy, which doles out more than $100 million in U.S. funds a year to help organize “activists,” support “journalists” and finance programs that can be used to destabilize targeted governments.
Gershman, whose job amounts to being a neocon paymaster, expressed antagonism toward Russia in the op-ed and identified Ukraine as “the biggest prize,” the capture of which could ultimately lead to the ouster of Putin, who “may find himself on the losing end not just in the near abroad but within Russia itself.”
The NED, which was founded in 1983 to do in relative openness what the CIA had long done in secret, listed 65 projects that it was financing in Ukraine, using U.S. taxpayers’ money. In other words, Gershman’s op-ed reflected U.S. policy – at least inside the State Department’s still-neocon-dominated bureaucracy – which viewed the EU’s snatching of Ukraine from Russia’s embrace as a way to weaken Russia and hurt Putin.
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Echte sancties betekenen bad news voor de economische groei in Europese exportlanden zoals Duitsland, Frankrijk en Nederland.quote:Op vrijdag 28 maart 2014 15:16 schreef SadPanda het volgende:
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Bij retoriek blijft het anders zouden er nu al echte sancties zijn.
Juist en die bewaar je dus voor als hij echt gekke dingen gaat doen...zoals Ukraïne binnen vallenquote:Op vrijdag 28 maart 2014 15:18 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:
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Echte sancties betekenen bad news voor de economische groei in Europese exportlanden zoals Duitsland, Frankrijk en Nederland.
En te vroeg beginnen met erg zware sancties berooft je van de mogelijkheid tot dreigementen, naast het feit dat het niet meewerkt als je probeert te de-escaleren. Zware sancties werken slechts de spanningen in de hand.quote:Op vrijdag 28 maart 2014 15:18 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:
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Echte sancties betekenen bad news voor de economische groei in Europese exportlanden zoals Duitsland, Frankrijk en Nederland.
Ik zie eerder dit gebeuren als een 'best case' scenario.quote:Op vrijdag 28 maart 2014 14:42 schreef SureD1 het volgende:
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Als ik even de Tom Clancy in mezelf loslaat:
* Janoekovitsj roept op tot referenda in alle regio's... De blauwgekleurde regio's zullen waarschijnlijk zullen waarschijnlijk voor afscheiding gaan stemmen
* Mensen gaan de straat op (al of niet geprovoceerd) om referenda af te dwingen.
* Ongeregeldheden (doden?)
* Rusland intervenieert
* Ukraïne zal feitelijk niets terug kunnen doen...ze hebben enigzins materieel dat meekan met de Russen maar ze zijn outnumbered.
* Er zal paniek zijn binnen de NAVO maar als de zaak zich beperkt tot Ukraïne zullen ze niks doen. Waarschijnlijk wel troepenopbouw in de Baltics en Polen...Turkije zal de Bosporus sluiten.
* Verdere sancties en isolatie van Rusland...Poetin zal toch ontevreden zijn en wordt verder in het nauw gedreven...
En hoe gaat dat ons helpen? Denk dat een exec van zo'n bedrijf heel goed weet dat petroleum aardgas niet kan vervangen, zeker niet in de industrie. Hij wil vooral geld verdienen aan de hogere prijs die in Europa wordt betaald, imo...quote:Export crude, not gas, to help allies, oil exec says
An oil executive told the House Foreign Relations Committee that the United States should export crude oil to allied countries to help their energy security and reduce Russia’s influence.
The testimony from Harold Hamm, chairman and CEO of Continental Resources Inc., came amid bipartisan calls to increase exports of liquefied natural gas (LNG) to undercut the influence Russia holds by being an energy superpower in Eastern Europe.
“We could help with oil exports that could have an immediate impact all over the world,” Hamm, who is also chairman of the Domestic Energy Producers Alliance, said at the Wednesday hearing.
While Ukraine and other Eastern European countries currently lack the infrastructure to import LNG from tanker ships, they have the infrastructure for oil.
“Making America a world leader in LNG exports is a worthy goal, but the truth of the matter is these new export terminals will not be up and running for some time,” he said in written testimony. “If we want to have an overnight impact on today’s global events, we can immediately begin exporting crude oil, which does not have the same infrastructure constraints.”
Continental has significant oil drilling operations in North Dakota's Bakken region, where it is one of the largest producers.
The Domestic Energy Producers Alliance said allowing crude exports are a “longstanding tenet” of its policy platform. A law passed during the 1970s OPEC oil embargo makes it illegal to export crude.
Continental also produces natural gas. Hamm called for quick approval of the 24 applications currently pending at the Department of Energy for projects to export LNG to countries with which the United States does not have a free-trade agreement.
http://thehill.com/blogs/(...)e-says#ixzz2xGfIUEWp
twitter:ReutersWorld twitterde op vrijdag 28-03-2014 om 15:50:05Russia has expanded its retaliatory sanctions against the West: RIA, citing foreign ministry reageer retweet
Hier dus: http://blogs.wsj.com/wash(...)d&utm_medium=twitterquote:Live Q&A at 11 a.m. ET: What’s Next in the Russia Standoff?
Russian troops massing near Ukraine are actively concealing positions and establishing supply lines that could be used in a prolonged deployment, ratcheting up U.S. concerns, report Adam Entous and Julian E. Barnes in today’s Journal.
Join our Spreecast at 11 a.m. ET, when foreign policy reporter Jay Solomon and national politics editor Aaron Zitner chat with Brookings Institution President Strobe Talbott about Russia, Ukraine and what role the U.S. and allies should play in the standoff. Submit questions in advance, set up a reminder, and watch the discussion here: http://www.spreecast.com/events/russia-standoff-whats-next
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quote:Het Russische ministerie voor Cultuur heeft artiesten en intellectuelen opgeroepen een petitie te tekenen waarin de annexatie van de Krim wordt toegejuicht. Er werden direct een paar prominente handtekeningen geplaatst: die van Vladimir Urin bijvoorbeeld, de directeur-generaal van het Bolsjoj Theater in Moskou, en die van dirigent Valeri Gergiev, die jarenlang de dirigent van het Rotterdams Philharmonish Orkest was.
Maar er werden ook fouten gemaakt, schrijft de New York Times. Zo bleek een van de ondertekenaars al dood te zijn. Anderen protesteerden dat hun handtekening zonder hun medeweten of goedkeuring onder het stuk was verschenen. Het ministerie, dat de petitie op 1 maart op haar eigen website had gepubliceerd, liet weten dat het was overstelpt door steunbetuigingen en daarom enkele 'technische fouten' had gemaakt.
Hitler achtigquote:
Klopt, propaganda heeft hitler uitgevonden. Hitler heeft immers nooit bestaanquote:Op vrijdag 28 maart 2014 16:34 schreef Romanus het volgende:
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Hitler heeft propaganda niet uitgevonden hoor
Afghanistan gaat steeds beterquote:Op vrijdag 28 maart 2014 10:29 schreef Djibril het volgende:
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Net als Panama, Chili, Kosovo, Bosnia, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Colombia, Afghanistan etc.
Het zijn allemaal speelballen van grootmachten die democratie en welvaart beloven maar puur zulke landen helpen voor eigen belang. Zulke landen krijgen er instabiliteit, corruptie en criminaliteit voor terug.
Krim was al corrupt en daar zal Rusland niks aan veranderen.
In de VS doet men dit ook, en effectiever, onder het motto "support the troops"quote:
Dat is toch dat land waar vrouwelijke politieagenten worden doodgeschoten en meisjes niet naar school kunnen?quote:
Is dat sarcasme?quote:
http://www.reuters.com/ar(...)dUSBREA2R0TT20140328quote:Four trapped inside Kabul guesthouse stormed by Taliban
KABUL Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:47am EDT
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Violence has spiraled in Afghanistan in recent weeks, with Taliban suicide bombers and gunmen attacking an election commission office in Kabul on Tuesday.
Last week, nine people including an AFP journalist and an election observer were killed in an attack on a highly fortified hotel in Kabul.
A senior police official said one attacker in Friday's raid was still resisting, with 18 foreigners, including children, having been evacuated and taken to a safe house.
Deputy interior minister, General Ayoub Salangi, told Reuters that at least one Australian citizen was among those rescued, but the nationalities of the others were not clear.
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Tijden van de MOEX:quote:
Moskou loopt 3 uur voor, dus alleen de laatste 3 zijn nog open.quote:Main Market sector 09.30 am – 7.00 pm
Classica sector 10.00 am – 6.45 pm
Standard sector 10.00 am – 6.45 pm
Derivatives Market 10.00 am – 11.50 pm
FX Market 10.00 am – 11.50 pm
Commodity Market 10.00 am – 11.50
Je moet wat meer uitzoomen.quote:Op vrijdag 28 maart 2014 17:32 schreef meth1745 het volgende:
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Is dat sarcasme?
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http://www.reuters.com/ar(...)dUSBREA2R0TT20140328
Je hebt gelijk:quote:
http://www.helsinkitimes.(...)stment-projects.htmlquote:As US war ends, Russia returns to Afghanistan with series of investment projects
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In Afghanistan, Russian officials point to their development activities as a counterexample to US aid projects, which many Afghans criticise as wasteful and misguided.
"The mistake of the last 12 years is that people were eager to give money, but without the proper strategy," said Russian Ambassador Andrey Avetisyan, who was also based in Kabul as a young diplomat in the 1980s.
Many Afghans, including President Hamid Karzai, praise the Soviet model even though they fought a bloody 10-year war against the country's army, which invaded in 1979 to support an unpopular communist government.
"The Soviet money went to the right place. They were efficient in spending their money and doing it through the Afghan government," Karzai said in an interview with The Washington Post this month.
The new warmth between the Kremlin and Afghanistan was visible this week when the Afghan government released a message from Putin marking the Islamic new year. It was the only such message made public, and was released at a time when the United States and European governments are imposing sanctions on Russia for its expansion into Ukraine.
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Leuke pro Russische propaganda crap. Zou ook voor het eerst zijn dat rusland een land hielp. Heb ze amper gezien bij rampen zoals orkanen en tsunamis.quote:Op vrijdag 28 maart 2014 17:42 schreef meth1745 het volgende:
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Je hebt gelijk:
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http://www.helsinkitimes.(...)stment-projects.html
quote:Baltic States seek NATO boots on the ground
In the wake of Russia’s annexation of Crimea, the Baltic States are engaged in intense talks with NATO to step up security in the region. Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia welcome plans for more NATO troops.
Russia's annexation of Crimea has prompted a radical shake-up of how the Baltic States are thinking about their defense needs. Events in Ukraine are bringing back memories of the 50-year-long Soviet Union occupation of Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania, and it's making some feel nervous.
"Well, I feel strange because you never know what will happen. There is sort of a feeling of security because we're in the EU and NATO," said Sandra Gudrite, a 25-year-old woman from Salaspils. "So nothing really should happen, but anyway, you don't really know what Putin could come up with next."
Gudrite expresses the fears of many. It would seem the countries' governments and military leaders take these fears seriously too because they are in the midst of intensive talks with their allies in NATO to strengthen security across the whole Baltic region.
"We will now take immediate steps to increase the intensity of NATO drills here. We want to have a larger presence of NATO's forces as soon as we can," said Janis Sarts, state secretary of the ministry of defense in Latvia.
Sarts says that Russia has been busy investing in its military capabilities over recent years.
Russia's periphery: Who's next?:Putin# has made evident his interest in the Baltic States too by establishing an airbase for helicopters in Ostrov, Pskov Oblast near the borders of Latvia and Estonia. The airbase is intended for such military helicopters as Ka-52, Mi-34, Mi-28 and others.
"That is a recent development," Sarts explained to DW. "[and it] of course, raises the question of why there is a need for such a base, especially given its geographic location. The base has an offensive capability [too]," he clarifies.
Boots on the ground
There were 37 registered cases last year of NATO fighter jets, which patrol the airspace above the Baltic States, intercepting Russian military planes flying near the Latvian borders.
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http://www.dw.de/baltic-s(...)TER-EN-2004-xml-mrss
Geen specialist, maar de nieuwe NAVO SG, Jens Stoltenberg, was als premier van Noorwegen verantwoordelijk voor een forse stijging van het defensiebudget en een modernisering van het defensieapparaat. Onder hem is Noorwegen een van de grootste bijdragers aan de NAVO geworden.quote:Op vrijdag 28 maart 2014 18:02 schreef Dingflofbips het volgende:
Voor de kenners een vraag:
Kan de switch van NAVO secretaris-generaal strategisch richting Rusland/Oekraïne worden opgepakt? Heeft dit iets te maken met het 'conflict'? Of is het gewoon een wisseling van de wacht as usual...
quote:Stoltenberg wants to beef up NATO
As Europe struggles through its worst economic crisis in decades, Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg wants to strengthen NATO. He led Norway’s delegation to the NATO summit in Chicago, and said he wants to boost Norway’s support to the alliance, both financially and otherwise.
“It’s unsettling to hear about the big cuts in European defense budgets that many countries are talking about, ” Stoltenberg told news bureau NTB. “I’m afraid defense abilities can be drastically weakened if, for example, 20 percent is cut out of a military budget.”
The prospective defense cuts come at a time when budgets are being cut dramatically in other areas, and social unrest and unemployment are rising. Stoltenberg said that makes it especially important to have a strong NATO.
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http://www.newsinenglish.(...)nts-to-beef-up-nato/
Propaganda? Amerikaanse bronnen dan:quote:Op vrijdag 28 maart 2014 17:47 schreef firefly3 het volgende:
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Leuke pro Russische propaganda crap. Zou ook voor het eerst zijn dat rusland een land hielp. Heb ze amper gezien bij rampen zoals orkanen en tsunamis.
Irony indeed, zeggen dat Karzai de Russische invasie vergeten lijkt terwijl de VS troepen tien jaar na hun invasie nog steeds aanwezig zijn...quote:As the U.S. military prepares to leave Afghanistan after nearly 13 years of conflict with the Taliban, three visiting U.S. congressmen had to endure a statement from Afghan president Hamid Karzai that was released while they were in Kabul.
Citing “the free will of the Crimean people,” Karzai’s office said, “We respect the decision the people of Crimea took through a recent referendum that considers Crimea as part of the Russian Federation.” To date, only Syria and Venezuela have taken a similar position.
The New York Times suggests the Afghan move is linked to the fact that Russia “has been increasingly active in offering development aid. Given Russia’s heavy influence on countries along Afghanistan’s border, maintaining a long-term relationship with the Kremlin is seen as essential to Afghan foreign policy. Moscow is also ramping up its investment in Afghanistan. It is rebuilding the relics of the Soviet occupation and promoting its own political and cultural prowess.”
Indeed, Saturday’s Washington Post has an important article on the changing of the guard in Afghanistan:
“In Afghanistan, Russian officials point to their development activities as a counterexample to U.S. aid projects, which many Afghans criticize as wasteful and misguided. . . . Many Afghans, including President Hamid Karzai, praise the Soviet model even though they fought a bloody 10-year war against the country’s army, which invaded in 1979 to support an unpopular communist government.
“The Soviet money went to the right place. They were efficient in spending their money and doing it through the Afghan government,” Karzai said in an interview with The Washington Post this month.
The irony here, of course, is rich. Afghanistan was indeed invaded by the Soviets in 1979, but that is now conveniently forgotten by the Karzai regime. It is no doubt grateful the new Russian development aid is being spent “through the Afghan government,” a euphemism for the enormous corruption and bribery Karzai’s government is famous for. For some years, the U.S. tried to bribe the Karzai regime into doing its bidding. Ultimately, they failed. It seems the U.S. is not only clumsy at nation building, but also can’t seem to get the hang of “nation bribing.”
http://www.nationalreview(...)ck-country-john-fund
Geplande aflossing ook volgens mij... Rasmussen zijn termijn zat erop.quote:Op vrijdag 28 maart 2014 18:02 schreef Dingflofbips het volgende:
Voor de kenners een vraag:
Kan de switch van NAVO secretaris-generaal strategisch richting Rusland/Oekraïne worden opgepakt? Heeft dit iets te maken met het 'conflict'? Of is het gewoon een wisseling van de wacht as usual...
En toch gaat het steeds beter.quote:Op vrijdag 28 maart 2014 17:28 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:
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Dat is toch dat land waar vrouwelijke politieagenten worden doodgeschoten en meisjes niet naar school kunnen?
Dat is absoluut geen sarcasme.quote:Op vrijdag 28 maart 2014 17:32 schreef meth1745 het volgende:
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Is dat sarcasme?
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http://www.reuters.com/ar(...)dUSBREA2R0TT20140328
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