Revolutie in Egypte #206: Flipperkastrevoluties

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Aboud El-Zomor, a leading figure in the ultra-conservative Al-Gamaa Al-Islamiya, says the Islamist group will not return to violence after the Muslim Brotherhood’s Mohamed Morsi was toppled from the presidency last month.

Speaking to Time Magazine, El-Zomor, who spent 30 years in Egyptian prisons in connection with the 1981 assassination of former president Anwar Sadat, said: "I gave my orders to Al-Gamaa Al-Islamiya and the Building and Development Party [the group’s political wing] that anyone who does not follow the peaceful way of protest, or participates in any attack on a government building or organisation, or army, or police, or church and so on, will be dismissed from Al-Gamaa Al-Islamiya and the party."

"This is a final decision,” he said. “We choose the peaceful political direction as our way, even in opposition. When we are now opposing the new, illegal government, we are going to oppose it with the tools of democracy."

Al-Gamaa Al-Islamiya supported Morsi during his tenure in office and has continued to do so after his overthrow by the army amid mass nationwide protests against his rule.

Unlike many speakers at the now-dispersed pro-Morsi sit-ins in Cairo, El-Zomor also lamented sectarian strife and condemned attacks on Coptic Christians.

"I have been firm in this position even in the times that I have been in prison, without anyone asking me," he said. "I made a statement saying it is against Islamic law to attack houses of prayer, and it is also against the keeping of peace and harmony in society."

Although El-Zomor stresses the importance of peaceful protests, another Al-Gamaa leader, Assem Abdel-Maged, has adopted inflammatory rhetoric since Morsi's ouster, fuelling speculation the group could revert to violence as it did under Mubarak in the1980s and 1990s.

El-Zomor’s cousin, Tarek, another of the group's leaders, has used rhetoric suggesting a return to violence. Both Abdel-Maged and Tarek are at large and face charges of inciting violence, like many other Islamist figures.

Commenting on Tarek, who also served a long sentence in prison for his involvement in Sadat's assassination, El-Zomor said he believes the charges against his cousin stem from his speech at a rally in June, when he said Islamists would “crush” the planned anti-Morsi demonstrations on 30 June.

"When he spoke about ‘crushing', he was not referring to the terms of force, of killing, but rather the numbers, that our numbers will be much higher," El-Zomor said. “We ordered him not to appear in the media and to get out of the scene, in order not to give anyone a chance to use his words as an excuse for saying that he supports the use of force."

On Abdel-Maged, El-Zomor said, "He’s not allowed to move outside. It’s a way of keeping them safe."

However, El-Zomor stressed that attacks on the police are justifiable, due to their use of excessive force and live rounds. "In my opinion, it is a natural reaction of the population against the centres of unfairness," he said, referring to the dispersal of sit-ins, which left over 600 protesters dead.

"The use of live fire against people, killing people, will not resolve the problem. It will actually escalate the problem. It will fan the flames. This is not a way to end the issue. It’s a way to start new problems."

Speaking of his support for Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood, El-Zomor said the group was not totally on the same page as Al-Gamaa Al-Islamiya.

"The Brotherhood were insisting on getting Morsi back. That wasn’t a point for us. We said, ‘this is not important, that Morsi come back,’ but rather we can find another way of reaching a solution," he stated.

Commenting on the release of Mubarak, he said: “My message to him is, ‘I’m not against your release, but after the lessons you learned in prison, you have tasted the bitter taste of prison, which we have tasted, the worst of it in your time. When you get out, do not try to bring back [Mubarak's political party].’”

"This is a time that passed that will never come back," El-Zomor said.

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Ahmed Maher's 6 April movement helped lead the uprising that toppled Hosni Mubarak in 2011. With Mubarak now out of jail, he says the revolution is back to square one, and could take a generation to prevail.

After the bloodiest week in Egypt's modern history, Maher fears the consequences of the hatred that has split the country into two rival camps: the army-led state and its backers, and the Islamists they removed from power on July 3.

"Our problem is there is a wave of madness. People tell you: 'We must eradicate them'," Maher said, saying such attitudes had emerged on both sides. "There must be a third voice."

The assessment from one of Egypt's best-known activists underlines the bleak outlook for the country whose Jan. 25, 2011, uprising inspired pro-democracy revolts across the Arab world.

Maher, 32, says it may now be another generation before the goals of the revolution - freedom, social justice and dignity - are secured.

He spoke at a rundown Cairo office where the walls were covered with stickers bearing witness to non-stop activism since 2011: campaigns first against the generals who replaced Mubarak, and later against the elected Muslim Brotherhood-led government.

Protest work itself is becoming a victim of the latest bloodshed: April 6 cancelled a rally on Friday against Mubarak's release out of fears it might lead to violence.

"We view ourselves back at square one, because what is happening now could be more dangerous, more complicated than what was there before Jan. 25, 2011," Maher said.

"We don't fully understand what is happening in the new regime," he said. "There are fears of the return of the old regime, its people and methods."

"There are also extremist, radical armed groups."

Maher's 6 April was one of the youth movements that galvanised Egyptians during the 18-day uprising that ended when the army forced Mubarak aside on Feb. 11, 2011.

But like most secular groups, it failed to make much of a political mark once Mubarak was toppled - a failure that helped the Islamists win election after election, culminating with last year's presidential vote that brought Mohamed Morsi to power.

6 April backed Morsi in that vote, but later turned its countrywide activist network against him, echoing critics who said his Muslim Brotherhood was seeking to entrench its power even as it failed in government.

It gathered 2 million signatures for the Tamarod petition campaign that helped to mobilise protests against Morsi.

"When the army came to power after Jan. 25, the alternative was the Brotherhood. Then the Brotherhood came, and the alternative was the military," he said. "The problem was the two-sided equation from the start. There must be a real alternative."

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The Brotherhood is now facing one of the toughest crackdowns in its 85-year history.

Since Mursi's downfall, the security forces have killed at least 1,000 of his supporters, most of them last week when the police used force to break up their two Cairo protest camps.

Some 100 soldiers and police were also killed in bloodshed that has raised fears that an armed Islamist insurrection could ensue, even as the Brotherhood continues to disavow violence.

The police are arresting Brotherhood leaders and supporters across the country. State media say Egypt is fighting terrorism.

Maher said public hatred of the Brotherhood was now running so deep that it was difficult for activists to speak out about worrying trends such as the re-imposition of a state of emergency. "Everyone is directed towards the idea of the 'war on terror', and if there are violations, they are being ignored."

Mubarak's release on Thursday was a symbolic victory for supporters of the veteran autocrat. Though he is being retried for ordering the killing of protesters in the 2011 uprising, there are no longer any legal grounds for his detention.

"Naturally, there are fears, especially after the release of Mubarak," Maher said. "But as a revolution, we knew at the start there could be many setbacks ... We were expecting difficulties. But nobody thought it would be this complicated."

"I should be depressed, and I am depressed, but I still have hope, even with these complications, the violence, these fears. I still have confidence that one day we will see a new Egypt," he said. "My generation might not see these changes. We might be paving the way for the new generation to see these changes."

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'Heimwee naar glorieus verleden is luxe die Egypte zich niet kan veroorloven'

Naast de acute politieke crisis heeft Egypte te maken met vier levensgrote structurele crises, schrijft Paul Brill. 'Overbevolking, toenemende energiekosten, problematische watervoorziening en dalende voedselproductie.'

Misschien wel de grootste crisis die Egypte bedreigt, is het dreigende tekort aan water. De beschikbare hoeveelheid water per hoofd van de bevolking is de afgelopen decennia al met meer dan 50 procent afgenomen.

Een van de scherpste en tegelijk meest ontmoedigende observaties over de huidige toestand van Egypte komt voor rekening van Thomas Friedman van The New York Times. In een column stelde hij deze week vast dat van de twee belangrijkste machtsinstituties de ene het land het liefst wil terugvoeren naar de luisterrijke beginperiode van Gamel Abdel Nassers revolutie, terwijl de andere droomt van de anti-pluralistische, door mannen gedomineerde en door de sharia gedicteerde samenleving zoals die in de eerste bloeitijd van de islam bestond. Respectievelijk zestig jaar en twaalf eeuwen geleden.

Nu komt het wel vaker voor dat politieke bewegingen, ja soms hele volkeren bevangen raken door heimwee naar een glorieus verleden (dat dan ook nog eens in hoge mate wordt ge�dealiseerd). Maar het is een luxe die Egypte zich ten ene male niet kan permitteren. Het land dat zich er graag op beroemt het kloppend hart van de Arabische wereld te zijn, staat er zeer beroerd voor. Dat blijft bij alle turbulenties onderbelicht: we zijn zo gefixeerd op de dramatische handelingen van de verschillende acteurs, dat we nauwelijks nog de deplorabele staat van het decor zien.

Naast de acute politieke crisis heeft Egypte te maken met vier levensgrote structurele crises, die met elkaar samenhangen: overbevolking, toenemende energiekosten, problematische watervoorziening en dalende voedselproductie. Over de hele linie zijn de cijfers onrustbarend. Egypte telt ruim 82 miljoen inwoners, bijna drie keer zo veel als in het midden van de vorige eeuw. Al die mensen zitten op elkaars lip - nergens ter wereld is de bevolkingsdichtheid zo groot als in de Nijldelta.

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Op zaterdag 24 augustus 2013 12:06 schreef Drugshond het volgende:
Na Sadat is Egypte eigenlijk al een dood paard.

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Op zondag 25 augustus 2013 14:26 schreef Pietverdriet het volgende:
Is er trouwens bekend hoeveel Nederlanders er in egypte op vakantie zijn?

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Op zondag 25 augustus 2013 14:27 schreef Joost-mag-het-weten het volgende:

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Hier in Belgi� hebben de touroperators al meer dan een week alle reizen naar Egypte stopgezet, is dat in Nederland nog niet het geval dan ?

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Op zondag 25 augustus 2013 14:26 schreef Pietverdriet het volgende:
Is er trouwens bekend hoeveel Nederlanders er in egypte op vakantie zijn?
Je kan nog steeds last minute reizen boeken. Zouden daar nog veel mensen gebruik van maken?

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Megakorting op Egypte-reis
door Paul Eldering
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De Rode Zee Rivi�ra gaat komend najaar massaal in de uitverkoop. Dat zeggen reisorganisaties als TUI en Skytours.

Koopjes met wel 50% korting zullen vanaf de herfstvakantie schering en inslag zijn, voorspellen Nederlandse reisbureaus. Voorwaarde is dat Buitenlandse Zaken het reisadvies voor de Egyptische badplaatsen weer versoepelt, als het daar rustig blijft.

Volgens TUI-topman Steven van der Heijden kunnen vliegreizen naar de Rode Zee, die nu in de ban zitten, alleen met aanbiedingen opnieuw worden opgetuigd. „De zonzekere winter in Egypte is voor de reiswereld hoogseizoen, dus iedereen wil de toeristenstromen dan zo snel mogelijk op peil hebben.”

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TheBigPharaoh twitterde op vrijdag 30-08-2013 om 21:44:21 Al Jazeera America: pro-Morsi hold small rallies...Al Jazeera Arabic: pro-Morsi demos are massive. http://t.co/h2gOlAX7hc v @Kkholy reageer retweet

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Op zaterdag 24 augustus 2013 11:04 schreef rakotto het volgende:
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TheBigPharaoh twitterde op donderdag 05-09-2013 om 10:42:17 Seems Minister of Interior was target of assisination attempt by a bomb. He survived it. Many injured. Via @ahmedsoliman reageer retweet

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Op donderdag 5 september 2013 11:07 schreef rakotto het volgende:
Explosie in Cairo - Nasr City

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TheBigPharaoh twitterde op donderdag 05-09-2013 om 10:42:17 Seems Minister of Interior was target of assisination attempt by a bomb. He survived it. Many injured. Via @ahmedsoliman reageer retweet

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Op donderdag 5 september 2013 11:46 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:
Ik vrees van wel.

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Op donderdag 5 september 2013 11:10 schreef Frutsel het volgende:

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Wordt dit straks het beeld van Egypte dat we vaker gaan zien?

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Egypte voert druk op Moslimbroederschap op

De Egyptische politie heeft opnieuw een aantal kopstukken van de Moslimbroederschap opgepakt. Ook zijn de vermogens van 14 leiders van de beweging bevroren.

In een appartement in de Egyptische hoofdstad Ca�ro heeft de politie vandaag Gehad al-Haddad, de woordvoerder van de Moslimbroederschap, opgepakt samen met enkele medestanders.

Al-Haddad is een van de belangrijkste leiders van de beweging. Eerder waren ex-president Mohammed al-Mursi en andere toplui zoals Mohammed Badie en Khairat al-Shater opgepakt. Die worden op een onbekende plaats vastgehouden.

Nog vandaag heeft het gerecht de vermogens van 14 leiders van de Moslimbroederschap bevroren. De nieuwe regering voert dus blijkbaar de druk op de Moslimbroeders op, sinds dat de moslimpresident al-Mursi begin juli afgezet werd.

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Egypte verbiedt Moslimbroederschap

Een rechter in Egypte heeft maandag 'alle activiteiten' van de Moslimbroederschap verboden.

Ook zijn de tegoeden van de partij van de in juli afgezette president Mursi bevroren. Onroerende goederen worden in beslag genomen. Dat meldt persbureau AP op gezag van de Egyptische staatstelevisie.

De linkse partij Tagammu had bij de rechtbank het verzoek ingediend om de broederschap te verbieden. Tegen de uitspraak kan nog in beroep worden gegaan.
Bij betogingen tegen de afzetting kostten in juli en augustus een groot aantal levens.
De Moslimbroederschap bestaat al sinds 1928, maar was decennialang verboden en bleef noodgedwongen ondergronds. De beweging werd soms wat vrijheid gegund, maar de leiders moesten vaak vrezen voor arrestatie en jarenlange hechtenis. Na de val van Hosni Mubarak in 2011 kwam de beweging aan de macht en werd Morsi president.

Ook voor Mursi's val moest zijn islamistische organisatie zich nog voortdurend voor de rechter verweren. Al haar hele bestaan is de status van de Moslimbroederschap onduidelijk. Dat nodigt tegenstanders keer op keer uit haar bestaan en handelen voor de rechter aan te vechten.
De uitspraak van maandag biedt de autoriteiten de mogelijkheid om de Moslimbroederschap alle bewegingsruimte te ontnemen.

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Op maandag 23 september 2013 16:21 schreef Breekfast het volgende:

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Tot zover de democratie in Egypte.

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Representatives of the 'No to Military Trials for Civilians' group took part in a consultation session with the sub-committee regulating freedom and rights on behalf of the 50-member constitutional amendment committee on Monday.

Ragia Omran, a human rights lawyer and a founding member of the group, told Ahram Online that they demanded article 198 of the constitution be amended.

Article 198 of the currently dissolved 2012 constitution dictates that civilians are not to be tried before military courts, except for crimes that include direct assault on the armed forces, which are specified by law. The jurisdiction of military courts is also determined by law.

No to Military Trials are demanding that the law is altered, so that military courts are only concerned with crimes committed by members of the armed forces, a suggestion that Omran says was agreed on by some of the 20 members of the constitution committee in attendance at Monday's meeting.

“Some of the attendees agreed with our demand to prohibit military trials for civilians with no exception, however there were also others who agreed but said there should be an exception for those who attack military institutes or vehicles,” said Omran, who stressed that her group is vehemently against “exceptions,” as it is used to legitimise the military trials of civilians.

The human rights lawyer, who has been recently appointed as a member of the National Council for Human Rights, also pointed out that the controversial article was not included in the annulled 1971 constitution, and that it was added to the 2012 constitution drafted under the rule of Mohamed Morsi.

Omran added the group has requested a new article is added to the constitution to grant compensation, including the right to sue, to civilians who have faced military trial since the rule of Hosni Mubarak until today.

Several Egyptian human rights organisations have condemned the military trials of civilians, saying that around 60 convictions have been passed by army tribunals since Morsi's ouster on 3 July this year.

On 3 September a military court sentenced a Muslim Brotherhood member to life in prison for violence targeting the army in the port city of Suez last month. Forty-eight other members received sentences of between 5 to 15 years in prison.

In addition, Sinai-based reporter Ahmed Abu Deraa is currently on trial in a military court for charges of photographing the Suez Canal and other prohibited sites, in addition to trespassing on military land without a permit.

On Monday, Egyptian Foreign Minister Nabil Fahmy assured his American counterpart John Kerry that civilians arrested during recent protests across Egypt would not face military trials.

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Tientallen doden en reeks arrestaties Egypte

Zeker 34 mensen zijn zondag gedood bij botsingen tussen aanhangers van de Moslimbroederschap, die op de hand zijn van de afgezette president Mohamed Mursi, en veiligheidstroepen. Ruim 200 mensen raakten gewond.

Bovendien zijn circa 200 aanhangers van de Moslimbroederschap aangehouden, aldus de Egyptische autoriteiten.

Zowel aanhangers als tegenstanders van Mursi zijn de straat opgegaan om de Jom Kippoeroorlog tegen Isra�l van 1973 te herdenken.

De autoriteiten hadden vooraf aangekondigd dat ze een nieuwe confrontatie niet uit de weg zouden gaan, als de moslimbroeders de wet zouden overtreden of geweld zouden gebruiken. De meeste doden vielen in de hoofdstad Ca�ro.

Abdel Fattah al-Sisi
De tegenstanders van de afgezette president liepen onder meer met portretten van legerleider Abdel Fattah al-Sisi op het Tahrirplein in de hoofdstad Ca�ro. Aanhangers probeerden ook op het Tahrirplein te komen. De politie gebruikte traangas om de leden van de Moslimbroederschap uiteen te drijven. De aanhangers van Mursi bekogelden de ordetroepen vervolgens met stenen, aldus getuigen.

Ook in andere steden zijn mensen de straat opgegaan. In Delga, circa 300 kilometer ten zuiden van Ca�ro, viel een dode. Datzelfde gebeurde in Bani Suef, circa 80 kilometer van de hoofdstad.

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A subcommittee created by Egypt's constitution-amending body to resolve outstanding disagreements regarding military related articles failed to complete its task within the allocated one-week timeframe and will meet again after the Eid Al-Adha holidays.

Hoda El-Sadda, head of the Rights and Freedoms Committee, said in a press conference that representatives from the 50-member constitutional committee and the Egyptian Armed Forces failed to reach an agreement on articles dealing with military trials and the appointment of the defence minister.

Army representatives have demanded that the constitution give the military the authority to name the defence minister through the next two presidential terms.

In September, constitutional committee members proposed to remove the article that requires the approval of the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) – the Egyptian military's governing body – in order to appoint a defence minister.

The thorny issue of military trials for civilians has also stalled the subcommittee's work. While the under-amendment 2012 constitution allows civilians to appear before military court, opponents within the committee are seeking to limit its clout or prohibit the practice altogether.

El-Sadda said both parties within the subcommittee are refusing to compromise, and that they have decided to continue the discussion after the Eid Al-Adha holidays this week.

Sources told Al-Ahram's Arabic website that military representatives refused a sub-committee proposal to create special civilian courts to prosecute attackers of military facilities. According to the 2012 charter, perpetrators of this crime would be tried in front of a military tribunal.

Military representatives also rejected suggestions that civilians face military trials only in the case of terrorism or direct assault on military personnel. Proposals that the constitution completely ban military trials for civilians were similarly rejected.

Representatives from the constitutional committee refused proposals by army representatives that the constitution explicitly detail potential crimes against the army. The constitutional committee representatives argued that this is unconventional in modern democratic constitutions, Al-Ahram's Arabic website reported.

Amr El-Shobaki, a member of the military-related articles subcommittee, said that the problem lies in the military's view that Egypt is facing abnormal circumstances.

The amended draft of the 2012 constitution was supposed to be completed this week, but has been postponed due to internal disagreements such as those regarding military articles.

After the popularly-backed military ouster of former Islamist president Mohamed Morsi in July, the interim government initiated a transitional roadmap to guide the country until presidential elections are held. The 2012 constitution, which was drawn up by an Islamist-dominated constituent assembly during Morsi's rule, is being amended as part of that roadmap.

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Negatief reisadvies voor Egypte
Nederland • Geplaatst door Redactie op 16-10-2013 @ 18:41
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Het ministerie voor Buitenlandse Zaken heeft het reisadvies voor Egypte aangescherpt. Alle reizen naar de Sina� en naar de kust van de Rode Zee en de Golf van Akaba worden 'ten sterkste ontraden' vanwege de kans op terroristische aanslagen.

Het ministerie meldt dat er 'een re�le dreiging is van terroristische aanslagen in het gehele land'. Voor wat betreft reizen naar de Sina� geldt daarbij in het bijzonder een dreiging voor het vliegverkeer naar en van hotelresorts gelegen aan de kust van de Rode Zee en de Golf van Akaba. Ook alle niet-essentiele reizen naar Egypte met een andere bestemming dan de Sina� worden ontraden.

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Op woensdag 16 oktober 2013 22:31 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:

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Op donderdag 17 oktober 2013 01:37 schreef Joost-mag-het-weten het volgende:

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En dat net voor de herfstvakantie ...

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Egypt's 50-member committee tasked with amending the suspended 2012 constitution adopted on Sunday a transitional article that will cancel existing restrictions regulating the building of new churches.

The committee also adopted article 47, which stipulates "absolute freedom of belief" for all Egyptian citizens and endows the state with the responsibility to ensure free practice of religion.

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Op zondag 27 oktober 2013 20:16 schreef rakotto het volgende:
Breaking: Constitution committee eliminates all barriers to building churches in Egypt

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Op zondag 27 oktober 2013 20:49 schreef Joost-mag-het-weten het volgende:

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(maar of dat algemeen goed ontvangen zal worden in Egypte is een andere vraag natuurlijk)

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Op zondag 27 oktober 2013 20:56 schreef rakotto het volgende:

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De meeste mensen in Egypte zal het niet boeien. De enigen die er problemen mee zullen hebben zullen misschien de Salafisten en de broederschap zijn.

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Egyptische rechters stappen uit proces Moslimbroederschap

Egyptische rechters hebben zich dinsdag teruggetrokken van het proces tegen leiders van de Moslimbroederschap. Volgens een medewerker van de rechtbank voelden ze zich "ongemakkelijk".

De advocaat van Mohamed Badie, de leider van de Moslimbroederschap, zei dat de rechters onder druk stonden om het proces te voeren in de Tora-gevangenis, waar de verdachten zijn opgesloten.

"De rechters hebben dit geweigerd, maar de druk hield aan", zei advocaat Mustafa Attiya. "Dit is geen proces, maar een farce", voegde hij eraan toe.

De rechters trokken zich dinsdag terug voor de tweede zitting in het proces. Door hun stap moet het proces weer van voren af aan beginnen.

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Op zondag 24 november 2013 19:38 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:
Echt niemand reageert meer in het Egypte-topic. anders was het in zijn hoogtijdagen in juli en augustus.

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Op dinsdag 26 november 2013 17:31 schreef ZoKanIkHetOok het volgende:
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Farfahinne twitterde op dinsdag 26-11-2013 om 19:11:02 الشرطة مش بس بتتحرش بالبنات وبالرجالة كمان #EgyPolice #pigs sexually harass a guy after harassing women protestors https://t.co/o54CDMdcG0 reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 26 november 2013 19:09 schreef rakotto het volgende:

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Alleen is de angst-barriere weg onder de mensen en komt deze nooit meer terug.

Mubarak, Tantawi en Morsi zijn door "veiligheid" ten onder gebracht. Als dit zo langer doorgaat, dan zal Sisi niet anders meemaken.

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Op dinsdag 26 november 2013 20:39 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:

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Het regime van Sisi komt gaat ook wel een keer vallen. De vraag is niet of maar wanneer.
Maar niet onder het mom van "veiligheid" maar door een massale opstand van Moslimbroeders en Salafisten met nog een andere grote groep Egyptenaren die ontevreden zijn geworden over het bewind van Sisi

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A huge explosion hit the Daqahliya security directorate early on Tuesday in Mansoura, Nile Delta, killing at least eight and injuring 85 in what seems to be the worst explosion yet since the ouster of Islamist president Mohamed Morsi.

The injury and death tolls, which are expected to soar with eyewitnesses saying causalities are still inside the damaged building, were revealed by Hisham Masoud, General Manager of Mansoura’s hospitals.

The head of Mansoura's security directorate was among the injured, Daqahliya governor Omar El-Shawadfy told Egypt's state television.

Al-Ahram’s Arabic site quoted an anonymous security source as saying that two bombs went off almost at the same time. The first bomb, he says, was planted in a higher floor in the building, the second in a car next to the security directorate.

A third bomb planted in another car was defused, the source added.

Photos of the Daqahliya security directorate were posted on Al-Ahram’s Arabic site shortly after the blast, showing the exterior walls of the building badly damaged. Vehicles parked in the area were also destroyed.

A good number of bombings have been executed across Egypt since the ouster of Islamist president Morsi on 3 July.

On 24 July, an explosive device went off at a police station near the security directorate in Mansoura, killing at least one conscript and injuring 19.

On 5 September, Egypt's Interior Minister Mohamed Ibrahim survived an assassination attempt when a bomb detonated near his convoy in northeast Cairo.

Numerous police stations were also attacked across the country in the immediate aftermath of the bloody crackdown on pro-Morsi sit-ins in August. Attacks are always blamed on suspected Islamists incensed at his removal.

Ansar Jerusalem, or Ansar Beit al-Maqdis as the group is known, has claimed responsibility for some of the attacks, including the attempt to assassinate the interior minister.

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Op dinsdag 24 december 2013 02:06 schreef rakotto het volgende:
Minstens 14 dood en tientallen gewonden volgens Social Media. Je hebt mensen die zeggen dat de Broederschap hier verantwoordelijk voor is en je hebt anderen die zeggen dat de revolutionairen hier voor verantwoordelijk voor zijn. De Broederschap meent dat Sawiris en de Christenen hier achter zitten (Geen idee waarom??? Maar volgens hun om meer chaos te veroorzaken, false flag enzo) en je hebt veel anderen die zeggen dat het waarschijnlijk de Salafistische terreurgroepen zijn die oorspronkelijk in Sinai zitten.

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Op dinsdag 24 december 2013 09:52 schreef Charismatisch het volgende:

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Ik denk dat de gewapende salafi-jihadi groeperingen hiervoor verantwoordelijk zijn, als je naar het doelwit kijkt en denkt aan hoe zij over politieagenten denken (c.q. apostaten).

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Op dinsdag 24 december 2013 12:06 schreef rakotto het volgende:
Ik denk ook dat het de takfiri-lui uit Sinai zijn. Volgens de bronnen zitten er geen burgers tussen de slachtoffers, alleen mensen uit de korps incl. de hoofd.

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Op dinsdag 24 december 2013 14:06 schreef Aloulou het volgende:

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In Libie paar dagen geleden de eerste zelfmoordaanslag geweest op ook security forces, volgens mij 8 doden. Deze strijd die ook in Egypte geldt zal aankomende decennia voor alle landen gelden die een dictator hebben verdreven. Zwakke staat, al-qaida groepjes hebben vrijspel, clashen met overheid en plegen doelgerichte aanslagen. In Tunesie eerder ook al 8 militairen afgemaakt nadat ze in een ambush liepen. Zelfde lui als in Libie of Egypte en zelfde ideologie. Zoals charismatisch zegt: "militairen en handlangers van de staat zijn afvalligen/apostates, "taghout" en onderdeel van de oorlog tegen Islam".

In Egypte heb je de Sinai wat een wild west is en helaas ook buurland Libie waar ze totaal geen grip krijgen op dit soort groepen omdat de staat daar niets voorstelt. Zal dus niet de laatste aanslag zijn, en de vraag is hoe de Egyptische autoriteiten ermee omgaan als het over langere periode regelmatig terugkomt.

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Op woensdag 25 december 2013 18:44 schreef Charismatisch het volgende:
De salafi-jihadi groepering Ansar Bayt al-Maqdis heeft de aanslag opge�ist, terwijl het zielige regime van Sisi de Moslimbroederschap heeft beschuldigd en tot terreurgroep heeft bestempeld.



The Brotherhood has denied being responsible for the attack, and an al-Qaida inspired group has claimed responsibility.

Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood declared 'terrorist group'
The military-backed interim Egyptian government has declared the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist group after blaming it for a deadly attack on a police HQ earlier this week.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25515932

Ansar Jerusalem claims responsibility for Mansoura suicide bombing
In a statement released to jihadist forums today, the Sinai-based jihadist group Ansar Jerusalem (Ansar Bayt al Maqdis) claimed responsibility for the Dec. 24 suicide car bombing in Mansoura that killed at least 12 and injured more than 130. http://www.longwarjournal(...)jerusalem_clai_4.php

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Op woensdag 25 december 2013 22:46 schreef rakotto het volgende:
Ik hoop niet dat het een decennia gaat duren, maar we zullen zien. Sinai kunnen ze makkelijk onder controle krijgen als zij goed met de bedoeinen omgaan, maar dat snapt de regering niet.

De huidige regime gaat ook niet lang blijven als het geen veiligheid kan stellen denk ik zo.

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Op woensdag 25 december 2013 22:52 schreef Aloulou het volgende:

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Heb weleens eerder gezegd dat het Egyptische leger een kanker voor dat land is en enige echte vooruitgang. Helaas zijn ze te sterk, al jaren. En gaan ze dus niet vertrekken. Daarnaast zijn ze lomp en weten niet hoe ze zaken effectief kunnen aanpakken, zie hoe ze de Moslimbroeders hebben aangepakt bijv. Ik verwacht dus welzeker dat dit soort aanslagen nog een lange tijd blijven voortduren hier en daar.

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Blast targets bus in Egyptian capital
Five people injured when a bomb blast hit a public bus in front of Azhar University in Cairo.

Five people were injured, one in a critical condition, when a bomb was hurled at a public bus in Egypt's capital, Cairo, two days after 14 were killed in an attack on a police station in Nile Delta city of Mansoura.

The area hit by the explosion on Thursday in front of Azhar University in the busy district of Nasr City was cordoned and is currently being investigated, Ministry of Interior's head of the explosives department General Alaa Abdel Thaher said, according to state-run newspaper Ahram Gate.

A second remote-detonation bomb was diffused around the same area, according to Abdel-Thaher, while state-run television reported that a third bomb was also diffused.

Investigations showed that the bombs were home-made and were planted in an advert placard in a road-divider, Major General Jamal Halawa, deputy director of Civil Protection in the capital, told Ahram Gate.

The bus passengers who sustained injuries were transferred to a nearby hospital, according to the newspaper report.

The blast comes a day after the military-backed government designated the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist group and froze all of its activities and charity groups, raising the specters of more violence ahead of a nationwide referendum slated for mid-January on an amended constitution.

http://www.aljazeera.com/(...)122675643593481.html

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Al-Azhar academy sacks Qaradawi

Al-Azhar's Islamic Research Academy on Wednesday sacked prominent scholar Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi. In a statement, the academy said al-Qaradawi had been dismissed for his "referral to a criminal court, violating Al-Azhar's ideology and issuing a fatwa [religious ruling] inciting against state institutions."

Last week, Egyptian authorities referred al-Qaradawi, along with 129 others, including ousted president Mohamed Morsi, to a criminal court to face jailbreak charges. Academy member Mohamed al-Shahat said the decision to dismiss al-Qaradawi was taken "unanimously" due to the latter's position against Al-Azhar and Egypt, providing no further details.

On Saturday, al-Qaradawi, president of the International Union for Muslim Scholars, tendered his resignation from the 50-member academy. "I tender my resignation from the Islamic Research Academy to the Egyptian people," he said in his resignation letter."I don't need membership in this feeble body." The scholar lamented the academy's failure to condemn what he called "brutal massacres" committed by "coup generals" against the Egyptian people.

"The academy has neither issued a statement, nor a fatwa regarding what happened," he said.
Earlier this month, al-Qaradawi resigned from the Al-Azhar Scholars Council to protest Al-Azhar Imam Ahmed Tayyeb's support for Morsi's July 3 ouster by the army. In his resignation letter, al-Qaradawi said he wanted to "register the position taken by independent scholars."

The prominent scholar went on to assert that the post of Al-Azhar Grand Imam – like the presidency – "has been usurped by the military coup." Al-Tayyeb openly supported the military's overthrow of Morsi following mass protests against his administration.

The Qatar-based al-Qaradawi has repeatedly criticized the "military coup" and chastised Egypt's new military-backed rulers. Al-Qaradawi also blasted al-Tayyeb's failure to invite members of the Senior Scholars Council to meet "in light of the recent massacres and grave incidents that have terrorized the Egyptian people, particularly the dispersal of the Rabaa and Nahda sit-ins."

On August 14, hundreds of pro-Morsi demonstrators were killed when security forces violently cleared two sit-ins in Cairo's Rabaa al-Adawiya and Nahda squares.

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Op donderdag 26 december 2013 15:01 schreef Charismatisch het volgende:
Zou de aanslag vlakbij al-Azhar een reactie hierop zijn?

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http://www.worldbulletin.net/?aType=haber&ArticleID=125667

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Almost half of Egyptians are unsure about which groups are behind Tuesday's deadly bomb attack on the Daqahliya security directorate in the city of Mansoura, which killed at least 16 people and injured 135.

According to a poll conducted by private polling organisation Baseera, 46 percent of people are unsure about who is responsible, while 35 percent blame the Muslim Brotherhood.

The Egyptian government accused the Muslim Brotherhood of standing behind the Mansoura attack, as well as other attacks against government buildings and security personnel in recent months, before officially declaring the group a terrorist organisation on Wednesday.

The Brotherhood denied on Tuesday any links with the Mansoura bomb attack or other attacks against the government.

Sinai-based jihadists Ansar Beit Al-Maqadis claimed on Wednesday responsibility for the blast.

According to Baseera, 6 percent of Egyptians believe that Ansar Beit Al-Maqadis is behind the incident, 3 percent believe Hamas is responsible, and 5 percent attribute the attack to other radical Islamist groups.

In Daqahliya governorate, where Mansoura is located, the number of respondents blaming the Brotherhood rises to 42 percent.

The poll was conducted by landline and mobile phones on a nationwide sample of 1,374 people aged over 18.

According to Baseera, 91 percent of respondents had heard about the blast. In Lower Egypt, where Mansoura is located, 93 percent had heard about it, while in Upper Egypt, 88 percent of people were aware it had happened.

Urban-based respondents were more likely to attribute the attack to the Brotherhood than rural respondents, at 39 percent compared with 31 percent.

The explosion – which initial Ministry of Interior findings attribute to a car bomb – is the first terror attack of such magnitude to be carried out in proximity to the capital, with a mere 128 kilometres separating the two cities.

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Doden bij geweld Egypte

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Op meerdere plaatsen in Egypte is het tot geweld gekomen tussen aanhangers van de Moslimbroederschap en de politie. Daarbij zijn drie mensen om het leven gekomen.

Een 18-jarige aanhanger van de Moslimbroederschap werd doodgeschoten in de stad Damietta, in de Nijldelta in het noorden van het land. Twee andere mannen kwamen om het leven in de zuidelijke provincie Minya en in de hoofdstad Ca�ro.

265 demonstranten
De Egyptische regering bestempelde de Moslimbroederschap van de verdreven president Morsi deze week als terroristische organisatie. Sindsdien zijn er zeker 265 demonstranten gearresteerd.

Vrijdag vielen er zeker vier doden en tientallen gewonden bij gevechten tussen de politie en sympathisanten van de Moslimbroederschap.

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On 22 December 2013, a Cairo court sentenced political activists Ahmed Maher, Mohamed Adel and Ahmed Douma to three years in prison on charges of organising unauthorised protests and attacking security forces.

It was just the start. On 2 January, an Alexandrian court sentenced two other activists, Mahinour El-Masry and Hassan Mostafa, to two years in prison on charges of organising unauthorised protests and attacking security forces at a protest.

Two days later, on Saturday, the prosecutor-general ordered an investigation into the storming of the state security headquarters in March 2011. The building was broken into by young pro-revolution activists who had participated in the protests in January and February which led to the ouster of Hosni Mubarak. At the time, the act was hailed by the media as a mark of the fall of the police state.

The verdicts and the ordered investigation caused shock among the circles of the young activists who, like those jailed, had taken part in the 2011 revolution.

Thousands of Islamist protesters have been arrested, and hundreds killed in violent clashes, since the July ouster of unpopular Islamist president Mohamed Morsi after mass protests against him.

But the arrests of prominent secular protest figures, most of whom had supported Morsi's ouster, was seen by some as an escalation against the 2011 revolution by a repressive regime that they argue still holds power.

Moments after knowing the verdict, angry tweets, Facebook posts and statements begin to spread condemning the verdict.

“What is the relation between the war on terrorism and the repression of the revolutionary youth?" wrote novelist and liberal Alaa El-Aswany on his official Facebook page in the days after the verdict.

"Remnants of the Mubarak regime, if you want to kill the revolution then lock up the millions of Egyptians that made it. Lock up even Egypt if you can, but our revolution will continue and will succeed, with God’s will,” he wrote.

Maher, Adel and Douma are not the only secular activists behind bars. Other prominent activists facing potential prison sentences include blogger Alaa Abdel-Fatah, and Alexandria-based activists Mahinour El-Masry and Hassan Mostafa. All are charged with breaking a new law that forbids protests without prior police notification.

Other non-Islamists, including lesser-known figures from the April 6 Youth Movement, the Egyptian Social Democratic Party, the Constitution Party and the Strong Egypt Party have been arrested at recent protests around the country.

Several judges who played role in the judicial protest movement in Egypt since 2005, including Zakaria Abdel-Aziz and Mahmoud El-Khodairy, are currently facing charges of being members of a pro-Muslim Brotherhood judges group.

El-Khodairy is also facing criminal charges of allegedly torturing a man in Tahrir Square on 3 February 2011, after the infamous Battle of the Camel incident when the Mubarak regime sent armed thugs to attack protesters.

The action against the 2011 revolutionary activists was triggered by a controversial new protest law, which applies major restrictions to protesting and political assembly, two major gains of the 2011 revolution. Many of the activists who are now on trial had taken to the streets to protest these new restrictions, and have subsequently been charged with violating the new laws.

“The protest law is a witch hunt against the 25 January [2011] revolutionary activists,” Mohamed Adel told Ahram Online in November, days before his arrest.

“In reality, the protest law is made to hunt down the revolutionary activists, not Muslim Brotherhood supporters as is being claimed in the media. The Brotherhood protests are not dispersed in the same way as our protests,” said Adel, who added that the Muslim Brotherhood protesters and supporters were not standing trial like the revolutionary protesters.

“We have members in the April 6 Youth Movement who have been arrested all over the country just for putting up posters against the protest law,” Adel said.

In an April 6 statement issued before the court ruling, the group, which played a major role in the 2011 revolution, said that the ruling of the court would be political, and warned of further escalation by the movement against “the return of the police state and oppressive policies in Egypt."

After the court ruling, which sentenced two of the group's founding members, Maher and Adel, to jail terms, the group withdrew its support for the transitional roadmap put in place after the ouster of Morsi.

“What is pursued by the current regime is a coup against the January 25 revolution and its goals,” said the current coordinator of April 6 Youth Movement, Amr Ali.

Other political groups agree that secular revolutionaries are being targeted.

“After the fierce campaign led by the Mubarak regime's media and its strategic analysts against the 25 January revolution and its icons from different political currents, the regime moved to phase two -- actual vengeance against all the opposition youth icons who refused to be part of the current repressive regime,” said a statement issued by the Strong Egypt Party in December.

But the Egyptian Social Democratic Party, a liberal-leaning grouping which has provided several key cabinet ministers including prime minister Hazem El-Beblawi, has denied that a witch hunt is taking place.

“The 30 June [protests against Morsi] was not a coup against 25 January; it completes and corrects the path of the 25 January revolution," Emad Gad, the vice president of the Egyptian Social Democratic Party, told Ahram Online.

“We are in a battle against terrorism and although I have my own objections regarding the protest law, especially how it deals with peaceful protests and assembly, it was not a good idea to defy the law or the state now,” Gad said, referring to the activists arrested for protesting against the new law.

Other commentators blame the Muslim Brotherhood for the situation.

“There was no need for the protest law. Criminal law was enough to deal with any criminal violations at protests,” Ayman El-Sayyad, a journalist and political analyst, told Ahram Online.

“Nevertheless, the Muslim Brotherhood protests and their unreasonable demands gave an opportunity to weaken the voices against the protest law,” he said.

Revolutionary movements are under continuous attack in the media, with the April 6 Youth Movement being described in some media as the "civilian branch" of the Muslim Brotherhood, or accused of being foreign spies.

On the same day that Adel and were sentenced to three years in jail, Al-Qahira Wal-Nas TV channel aired what it claimed to be phone calls between Adel and Maher talking about foreign funding.

The channel has continued to air private phone calls of revolutionary activists, including Ahmed Eid, Abdel-Rahman Youssef, Mostafa El-Naggar and Asmaa Mahfouz.

The phone calls are used to build a case that the activists were participating in a regional plot to bring down the state, which led to the 25 January revolution.

“It is not about arrests now; it is about a systematic defamation of the whole 25 January revolution itself. Just look at what is being said on TV channels -- ideas that the wholesome 25 January revolution is good but those who made it are bad,” Ahmed Emam, the official spokesperson of the Strong Egypt Party told Ahram Online, adding that he expected that soon the 25 January revolution would be portrayed as completely negative and as a foreign conspiracy by the media.

Strong Egypt Party and its founder Abdel-Moneim Abul-Fotouh are attacked on a daily basis. Abul-Fotouh, a former leader in the Muslim Brotherhood who left the group in 2011, is often described as a sleeper Brotherhood agent.

"Do not get me wrong, we participated in 30 June [ouster of Morsi] and we are proud of this participation. But I am afraid it was hijacked by the Mubarak regime in order to restore the repressive police state," Emam said.

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Ahmed Maher of 6 April Movement: We made a mistake on 30/6. The brutal regime is back

Ahmed Maher'The (current) law of demonstrations is worse than the emergency law that was used by Mubarak, and we are seeing the same stubbornness, all of which leads to the same result

"We took part in the 30 June (demonstration), and that turned out to be a big mistake, and we took part in what was called the correction revolution of 30 June. We went to Al-Ittihadiyyah (presidential palace) and we went down to Tahrir Square. We heard that it was (meant to be) a correction and a remedy for Morsi's mistakes.
We do not deny that Morsi did wrong. And we do not deny that he dealt with the situation with stupidity, nor do we deny that the Brotherhood group were too opportunistic. But what is happening now is seriously a return to the old regime and a return to the same old tactics used by Mubarak in the past; the same persecution, the same torture, the same corruption and the same lies are being spread in the media that existed during the time of Mubarak and the time of the Military Council, and, to some extent, during the time of Morsi. What is happening now is much worse.
The (current) law of demonstrations is worse than the emergency law that was used by Mubarak, and we are seeing the same stubbornness, all of which leads to the same result. Now the people have seen for themselves that all of the propaganda and everything promoted about us partaking in a correction revolution, and that we should tolerate and persevere in order to have a better life afterwards, and in order for us to reform the regime, has all been a lie. All that has happened is that the State Security has been restored once more, along with the torture, tyranny and fabrication of charges against people. The corrupt people are back.
Everything we rose against in the January 25th revolution is back and is even worse than before. We are certain that the outcome will be the same as before. The revolution's youth and succeeding generations can see how the people are living in advanced countries, and they will certainly not allow the old regime to come back.
Even if they jail Ahmed Maher and even if they jail Alaa Abdelfattah and all the revolution's youth, there will be other generations to take their place. So, if there are still sane people inside the regime, especially people who were counted as part of the revolution such as Dr Mustafa Higazi or Ziyad Bahaa Al-Din or others, if they still care about Egypt's stability and if they care about the principles they so often talked to us about and we so often heard from them, then they should take a stance: Either they resign or they take part in the revolution."

http://www.middleeastmoni(...)sthash.ehuV5xGs.dpuf

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Egypt’s top military leader, General Abdel-Fattah El-Sisi, has said that he would consider running for the presidency if it were "at the request of the people."

"If I run for presidency, it would be by the request of the people and by a mandate from my army, as we work within a democracy," El-Sisi, who is also defence minister, said at a lecture on Sunday, according to the state-run MENA agency.

A number of popular campaigns, including one called "By the Command of the People," have been set up to lobby for El-Sisi to run for the presidency in the upcoming elections, expected by mid-2014.

Some campaigns have suggested the general should become president via referendum, instead of through elections.

El-Sisi became a popular figure since taking a visible role in the 3 July ouster of elected president Mohamed Morsi, announcing on television that Morsi had "failed to meet the demands of the people" following mass protests across the nation against his rule.

On 24 July, El-Sisi publically called on Egyptians to "mandate" the armed forces and police to crackdown on violence and terrorism, by holding demonstrations. Huge crowds took to the streets in response to his request.

In his Sunday speech, El-Sisi also called on Egyptians to "uphold their national duty by voting in large numbers" in the draft constitution referendum.

Egyptians are scheduled to vote on the amended constitution on 14 and 15 January. The previous text – passed under Morsi – was suspended on his ouster.

El-Sisi stated on Saturday that voting on the referendum would "correct the democratic path and build a democratic modern state that satisfies all Egyptian."

Egypt is on the eve of a landmark in its history, as the world awaits the implementation of the first steps of the roadmap after two unique revolutions that impressed the world with their peacefulness, El-Sisi added.

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Op zaterdag 11 januari 2014 19:25 schreef rakotto het volgende:
El-Sisi would run for president 'if the people request it'

General El-Sisi, head of the armed forces, also called on Egyptians to take part in next week's constitutional referendum

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Wil hem best president hebben op dit moment, om zijn ondergang te zien. De problemen gaan ze niet oplossen.

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Op zaterdag 11 januari 2014 20:31 schreef Aloulou het volgende:

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Trieste boel... dit zag je zo aankomen. Ongelooflijk dat al die Egyptenaren daar zo intrapten zeg. Dan verdien je ook gewoon niet beter.

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Nasserist politician Hamdeen Sabbahi said on Saturday that he may still run in the coming presidential elections, stressing that his decision to compete will not depend on whether army chief Abdel-Fattah El-Sisi also runs.

Sabbahi said in a televised interview with MBC Egypt that he still stands by his decision to run in the presidential race if there is consensus on his candidacy from "the revolutionary forces."

He reiterated that he is also willing to back another candidate who gains consensus, if he agrees with their political programme, their presidential team and their supporters.

The Nasserist figure said he would not back a presidential candidate whose team included members of the Muslim Brotherhood.

A founding member of the Egyptian Popular Current, Sabbahi came third in the 2012 presidential elections, after the Muslim Brotherhood’s Mohamed Morsi (eventual winner) and Mubarak-era politician Ahmed Shafiq.
El-Sisi, who is heard of Egypt’s armed forces, said publically on Sunday that he would run in the elections, slated for mid-2014, "if the people request it."

Sabbahi stated that he is the only candidate who has "linked his candidacy with the goals of the revolution and not with whether El-Sisi will be running for the presidential post."

He warned against "Mubarak-era corrupt [sympathisers] who want to hijack the 30 June revolution."

Mass protests against the presidency of Mohamed Morsi took place on 30 June last year, triggering his ouster.

Sabbahi had earlier said he would back a presidential bid by El-Sisi, who was a "popular hero,” but in December appeared to change his mind, stating thathe would prefer the army chief stick to military matters, but that he would respect political forces if they wanted him to run.

The Egyptian Popular Current has already launched a campaign to promote Sabbahi as the "revolution's candidate."

Parliamentary and presidential elections are expected to take place by the summer of 2014, as detailed by the post-Morsi roadmap.

A referendum on the recently amended constitution is due to take place on 14 and 15 January.

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Op zaterdag 11 januari 2014 20:31 schreef Aloulou het volgende:

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Trieste boel... dit zag je zo aankomen. Ongelooflijk dat al die Egyptenaren daar zo intrapten zeg. Dan verdien je ook gewoon niet beter.

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Op zaterdag 11 januari 2014 21:20 schreef theunderdog het volgende:


Je spreekt wel erg meelevend over je broeders en zusters..... "ze verdienen het gewoon".... kanker he.

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Op zaterdag 11 januari 2014 21:34 schreef Aloulou het volgende:

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Maar ik scheld niet

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Op zaterdag 11 januari 2014 20:31 schreef Aloulou het volgende:

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Goed zo Sisi mijn held. Maak maar gehakt van die smerige islamisten. Morsi was een ezel.

Neem de voorbeeld van Assad en kill al those fucking Islamists.

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Op zaterdag 11 januari 2014 23:25 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:

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ik denk dat je eerder dit bedoelde. Aangezien je een enorme haat hebt tegen Islamisten en Salafisten.

Morsi riep op tot Jihad tegen Assad en Hezbollat, daarom vonden pro-Hezbollat fans zoals jij dat Morsi weg moest.

Doe niet zo hypocriet jo, eerst haatte je nog Islamisten.

Jij zei zelf nog ergens in November dat ej anti-Islamist was.

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Op zaterdag 11 januari 2014 23:29 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Jij hebt geen afkeer jegens Jihadisten van bijvoorbeeld ISIS ?

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Op zaterdag 11 januari 2014 23:34 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:

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Jawel maar ik heb een veel grotere afkeer tegen sjiietische jihadisten zoals Hezbollat en Sadr-beweging.

Natuurlijk ben ik niet voor ISIS maar ik haat alle die seculiere hoerenkinderen die Morsi ten val brachten.

Ik heb ook een spuughekel tegen Zionisten(Israel) en Assad en Hezbolat, meer dan tegen ISIS of JAN zelfs.

Ik zeg dit eerlijk als Sunni-Koerd. Doe mij maar liever ISIS en JAN dan Assad of Hezbollat.

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Op zaterdag 11 januari 2014 23:39 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Wat is er mis met Hezbollah ?

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Op zaterdag 11 januari 2014 23:45 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:

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Hun bloedbaden tegen Soennieten met samenwerking van de SAA.

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Op zaterdag 11 januari 2014 23:25 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:
Doe niet zo hypocriet jo, eerst haatte je nog Islamisten.

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Op zondag 12 januari 2014 00:02 schreef Aloulou het volgende:

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Nothing but love for Islamists van mijn kant habibi

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Op zaterdag 11 januari 2014 23:34 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:

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Jawel maar ik heb een veel grotere afkeer tegen sjiietische jihadisten zoals Hezbollat en Sadr-beweging.

Natuurlijk ben ik niet voor ISIS maar ik haat alle die seculiere hoerenkinderen die Morsi ten val brachten.

Ik heb ook een spuughekel tegen Zionisten(Israel) en Assad en Hezbolat, meer dan tegen ISIS of JAN zelfs.

Ik zeg dit eerlijk als Sunni-Koerd. Doe mij maar liever ISIS en JAN dan Assad of Hezbollat.

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Op zondag 12 januari 2014 00:45 schreef rakotto het volgende:

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Dat is het probleem van sommigen nou altijd... Doe mij die of die zeggen ze dan. Ik zeg, doe geen van beiden. Alsof er geen andere opties zijn.

En dankjewel dat je mij uitscheld met hoerenkind en dat je me haat.

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Op zondag 12 januari 2014 14:02 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:

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Heb ik jou specifiek uitgescholden voor hoerenkind. Met hoerenkinderen bedoelde ik de seculiere politici die Morsi ten val brachten, niet alle deonstranten.

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Op zondag 12 januari 2014 14:02 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:

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Heb ik jou specifiek uitgescholden voor hoerenkind. Met hoerenkinderen bedoelde ik de seculiere politici die Morsi ten val brachten, niet alle deonstranten.

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Op zondag 12 januari 2014 14:18 schreef De_Guidance het volgende:

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En de seculiere demonstranten die tegen het leger zijn?

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Op zondag 12 januari 2014 14:38 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:

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Als ze maar Morsi weer aan de macht brengen.

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Op zondag 12 januari 2014 14:38 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:
Als ze maar Morsi weer aan de macht brengen.

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Op zondag 12 januari 2014 15:39 schreef Aloulou het volgende:

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Moslimbroeders hebben het (zwaar) verziekt onder grote delen van de Egyptische bevolking en dat in slechts 1 jaar

Het zijn vooral niet-Egyptische Moslimbroeder/AKP-aanhangertjes die dat nog niet willen begrijpen

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Op zondag 12 januari 2014 18:54 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:

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De MB heeft geeneens goed de kans gekregen om het land te verbeteren.

Of dacht je echt dat Morsi een tovenaar was die problemen die 50 jaar speelden in 1 jaar kon oplossen.

Denk je echt dat grote problemen in 1 jaar op te lossen zijn.

Ach ja helaas denken anti-Islamistische en pro-seculiere en Hezbollat-fans zoals jij wel dat dat kan.

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Op dinsdag 14 januari 2014 20:21 schreef Charismatisch het volgende:
Dus binnenkort worden de salafisten van de al-Nour-partij ook verboden?

Er zijn vandaag op de eerste dag van een referendum over de nieuwe grondwet zeker vijf doden gevallen. Egypte is volgens de tekst van de nieuwe grondwet een democratisch modern land met een burgerregering. De macht van de militairen blijft echter groot en politieke partijen mogen niet worden opgericht op grond van godsdienst, geslacht, ras of regionale verbondenheid.
http://www.volkskrant.nl/(...)busgang-Egypte.dhtml

Tekst van de grondwet kun je hier lezen:
http://de.scribd.com/doc/(...)-of-Egypt-in-English

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Op dinsdag 14 januari 2014 20:21 schreef Charismatisch het volgende:
Dus binnenkort worden de salafisten van de al-Nour-partij ook verboden?

Er zijn vandaag op de eerste dag van een referendum over de nieuwe grondwet zeker vijf doden gevallen. Egypte is volgens de tekst van de nieuwe grondwet een democratisch modern land met een burgerregering. De macht van de militairen blijft echter groot en politieke partijen mogen niet worden opgericht op grond van godsdienst, geslacht, ras of regionale verbondenheid.
http://www.volkskrant.nl/(...)busgang-Egypte.dhtml

Tekst van de grondwet kun je hier lezen:
http://de.scribd.com/doc/(...)-of-Egypt-in-English

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Op woensdag 15 januari 2014 00:46 schreef Aloulou het volgende:
Na de Moslimbroederschap in Egypte gaat Sisi achter die in Gaza aan? En Hamas het vuur aan de schenen leggen?

"After crushing the Muslim Brotherhood at home, Egypt's military rulers plan to undermine the Palestinian militant group Hamas, which runs the neighbouring Gaza Strip, senior Egyptian security officials told Reuters.

The aim, which the officials say could take years to pull off, includes working with Hamas's political rivals Fatah and supporting popular anti-Hamas activities in Gaza, four security and diplomatic officials said." http://uk.reuters.com/art(...)dUKBREA0D09Q20140114

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Op woensdag 15 januari 2014 00:46 schreef Aloulou het volgende:
Na de Moslimbroederschap in Egypte gaat Sisi achter die in Gaza aan? En Hamas het vuur aan de schenen leggen?

"After crushing the Muslim Brotherhood at home, Egypt's military rulers plan to undermine the Palestinian militant group Hamas, which runs the neighbouring Gaza Strip, senior Egyptian security officials told Reuters.

The aim, which the officials say could take years to pull off, includes working with Hamas's political rivals Fatah and supporting popular anti-Hamas activities in Gaza, four security and diplomatic officials said." http://uk.reuters.com/art(...)dUKBREA0D09Q20140114