TRU The truth is in here and out there
Je ziet het niet maar toch is het er... Alles over mysterieuze, onverklaarde, spirituele en occulte zaken.
Originele OP:
Deel 1:
UFO's en aliens in beeld
Deel 2:
UFO's en aliens in beeld #2
Hier een op zn minst entertainende video compilatie van de beste video's uit juli dit jaar:quote:Hoi.
Ik heb een vraag. Leg nou eens uit met alles wat aan hoogwaardige camera's en HD beschikbaar is. Waarom zijn alle beelden van UFO's en vreemde gebeurtenissen altijd opgenomen met mobieltjes uit het jaar kruik of met bewegende camera?
Hoe godvergeten moeilijk is het een goede camera te kopen en die stil te houden? Als er dan echt, echt aliens zouden bestaan, dan kunnen we dat gelijk goed zien.
Deel 1:
UFO's en aliens in beeld
Deel 2:
UFO's en aliens in beeld #2
"An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people."
11-11-11 11:11:11 bedoel je? :pquote:Op donderdag 10 november 2011 21:12 schreef leRomein het volgende:
The time is near mensen, the time is NEAR!
Ik vind dat hier te veel word gepraat en te weinig beeldmateriaal wordt getoond zoals de titel van het topic aangeeft 
Helaas heb ik niks te tonen mbt UFO's
Helaas heb ik niks te tonen mbt UFO's
Speciaal voor Arucard:
Allen Hynek Admits Astronomers Do See UFO's
Dr. Josef Allen Hynek ( May 1, 1910 - April 27, 1986 ) was a United States astronomer, professor, and ufologist. He is perhaps best remembered for his UFO research. Hynek acted as scientific adviser to UFO studies undertaken by the U.S. Air Force under three consecutive names: Project Sign (1947-1949), Project Grudge (1949-1952), and Project Blue Book (1952 to 1969). For decades afterwards, he conducted his own independent UFO research, and is widely considered the father of the concept of scientific analysis of both reports and, especially, trace evidence purportedly left by UFOs.
Astronomer - UFO Investigations
En de meest intrigerende (waar ik nog meer info over aan het zoeken ben):
UFO Sighting of Mothership Size UFOs in our Solar System by Astronomer J.L. Walson
edit: ik kan niets vinden van iemand die dit laatste filmpje heeft kunnen reproduceren. Waarschijnlijk een hoax.
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Allen Hynek Admits Astronomers Do See UFO's
Dr. Josef Allen Hynek ( May 1, 1910 - April 27, 1986 ) was a United States astronomer, professor, and ufologist. He is perhaps best remembered for his UFO research. Hynek acted as scientific adviser to UFO studies undertaken by the U.S. Air Force under three consecutive names: Project Sign (1947-1949), Project Grudge (1949-1952), and Project Blue Book (1952 to 1969). For decades afterwards, he conducted his own independent UFO research, and is widely considered the father of the concept of scientific analysis of both reports and, especially, trace evidence purportedly left by UFOs.
Astronomer - UFO Investigations
En de meest intrigerende (waar ik nog meer info over aan het zoeken ben):
UFO Sighting of Mothership Size UFOs in our Solar System by Astronomer J.L. Walson
edit: ik kan niets vinden van iemand die dit laatste filmpje heeft kunnen reproduceren. Waarschijnlijk een hoax.
[ Bericht 11% gewijzigd door Probably_on_pcp op 11-11-2011 22:42:10 ]
"An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people."
Het 'schip' dat vanaf 5:57 getoond wordt en daarna 'transformeert', doet mij denken aan een lichtbron die uit focus is. Het transformeren is dan het bijstellen van de lens om de focus te veranderen. Ik denk dat dit een hoax is, al moet ik zeggen dat ik niet weet welke objecten hier daadwerkelijk gefilmd worden.quote:Op vrijdag 11 november 2011 22:28 schreef Probably_on_pcp het volgende:
En de meest intrigerende (waar ik nog meer info over aan het zoeken ben):
UFO Sighting of Mothership Size UFOs in our Solar System by Astronomer J.L. Walson
edit: ik kan niets vinden van iemand die dit laatste filmpje heeft kunnen reproduceren. Waarschijnlijk een hoax.
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Wellicht niet nieuw voor velen, maar dit fragment toont twee van de meest opzienbarende scenes met UFO's gefilmd door NASA. Daarbij worden de fragmenten geanalyseerd door zowel sceptici als 'believers', waaronder astronaut Buzz Aldrin. Wat ik met name goed vind in dit filmpje is de roep om onderzoek vanuit de wetenschappelijke hoek door mainstream science:
Let overigens niet op de stem van de spreker, die rechtstreeks van een erotische audiotape lijkt te komen.
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Project Bluebook werd door jouzelf toch ergens agekraakt/bekritiseerd.. of vergis ik me nu?quote:
Speciaal voor Arucard:
Allen Hynek Admits Astronomers Do See UFO's
Dr. Josef Allen Hynek ( May 1, 1910 - April 27, 1986 ) was a United States astronomer, professor, and ufologist. He is perhaps best remembered for his UFO research. Hynek acted as scientific adviser to UFO studies undertaken by the U.S. Air Force under three consecutive names: Project Sign (1947-1949), Project Grudge (1949-1952), and Project Blue Book (1952 to 1969). For decades afterwards, he conducted his own independent UFO research, and is widely considered the father of the concept of scientific analysis of both reports and, especially, trace evidence purportedly left by UFOs.
Je vergist je wel in het topic, denk ik. Vragen aan UFO-skeptici is hier: Vragen aan UFO skeptici deel 2quote:
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Project Bluebook werd door jouzelf toch ergens agekraakt/bekritiseerd.. of vergis ik me nu?
Eerlijk gezegd niet, of had ik die opmerking niet mogen maken in dit topic?quote:
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Je vergist je wel in het topic, denk ik. Vragen aan UFO-skeptici is hier: Vragen aan UFO skeptici deel 2
Van mij mag je dat wel, al bekijk en bespreek ik hier persoonlijk liever beelden. Ik hoop alleen niet dat hier weer een enorme discussie uit gaat komen die niet on-topic is.quote:
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Eerlijk gezegd niet, of had ik die opmerking niet mogen maken in dit topic?
Dan zal ik me maar tot het bekijken van beelden beperken, hier..Hoewel ik niet kan zeggen dat ik het niet heel vermakelijk vond, ben ik er niet op uit om topics te verpesten.quote:
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Van mij mag je dat wel, al bekijk en bespreek ik hier persoonlijk liever beelden. Ik hoop alleen niet dat hier weer een enorme discussie uit gaat komen die niet on-topic is.
Dat klopt. En nu?quote:
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Project Bluebook werd door jouzelf toch ergens agekraakt/bekritiseerd.. of vergis ik me nu?
"An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people."
Ik vroeg me af waarom je een filmpje met een interview van deze man in een topic over 'aliens in beeld' plaatst..quote:
Omdat Arucard en anderen zeggen dat ze astronomen volgen in hun mening en sommige skeptici doen alsof astronomen nog niets iets merkwaardigs hebben waargenomen dat in verband kan worden gebracht met het UFO fenomeen.quote:
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Ik vroeg me af waarom je een filmpje met een interview van deze man in een topic over 'aliens in beeld' plaatst..
Maar ik kreeg het idee dat je het vreemd vond dat ik Hynek aanhaalde terwijl hij heeft meegewerkt aan een rapport waarvan ik zeg dat het niet te vertrouwen is?
"An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people."
Dat laatste was wel mijn eerste gedachte ja.. maar als je punt is dat astronomen soms ook dingen zien die niet direct te verklaren zijn, dan begrijp ik het.quote:
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Omdat Arucard en anderen zeggen dat ze astronomen volgen in hun mening en sommige skeptici doen alsof astronomen nog niets iets merkwaardigs hebben waargenomen dat in verband kan worden gebracht met het UFO fenomeen.
Maar ik kreeg het idee dat je het vreemd vond dat ik Hynek aanhaalde terwijl hij heeft meegewerkt aan een rapport waarvan ik zeg dat het niet te vertrouwen is?
Beter nog, hij was een debunker die zijn mening heeft moeten aanpassen na het onderzoek dat hij heeft gedaan. Dit onderstaande komt van wikipedia, maar wordt ook besproken in bepaalde UFO docu's en lezingen:quote:
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Dat laatste was wel mijn eerste gedachte ja.. maar als je punt is dat astronomen soms ook dingen zien die niet direct te verklaren zijn, dan begrijp ik het.
J. Allen Hynek
Dr. Josef Allen Hynek (May 1, 1910 – April 27, 1986) was a United States astronomer, professor, and ufologist.[1] He is perhaps best remembered for his UFO research. Hynek acted as scientific adviser to UFO studies undertaken by the U.S. Air Force under three consecutive names: Project Sign (1947–1949), Project Grudge (1949–1952), and Project Blue Book (1952 to 1969).
For decades afterwards, he conducted his own independent UFO research, developing the Close Encounter classification system, and is widely considered the father of the concept of scientific analysis of both reports and, especially, trace evidence purportedly left by UFOs.
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For the first few years of his UFO studies, Hynek could safely be described as a debunker. He thought that a great many UFOs could be explained as prosaic phenomena misidentified by an observer. But beyond such fairly obvious cases, Hynek often stretched logic to nearly the breaking point in an attempt to explain away as many UFO reports as possible. In his 1977 book, Hynek admitted that he enjoyed his role as a debunker for the Air Force. He also noted that debunking was what the Air Force expected of him.
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Hynek's opinions about UFOs began a slow and gradual shift. After examining hundreds of UFO reports over the decades (including some made by credible witnesses, including astronomers, pilots, police officers, and military personnel), Hynek concluded that some reports represented genuine empirical observations.
Another shift in Hynek's opinions came after conducting an informal poll of his astronomer colleagues in the early 1950s. Among those he queried was Dr. Clyde Tombaugh, who discovered the dwarf planet Pluto. Of 44 astronomers, five (over 11 percent) had seen aerial objects that they could not account for with established, mainstream science[citation needed]. Most of these astronomers had not widely shared their accounts for fear of ridicule or of damage to their reputations or careers (Tombaugh was an exception, having openly discussed his own UFO sightings[citation needed]).
Hynek also noted that this 11% figure was, according to most polls, greater than those in the general public who claimed to have seen UFOs[citation needed]. Furthermore, the astronomers were presumably more knowledgeable about observing and evaluating the skies than the general public, so their observations were arguably more impressive. Hynek was also distressed by what he regarded as the dismissive or arrogant attitude of many mainstream scientists towards UFO reports and witnesses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Allen_Hynek
"An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people."
Een bekeerde debunker. Ok.quote:
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Beter nog, hij was een debunker die zijn mening heeft moeten aanpassen na het onderzoek dat hij heeft gedaan. Dit onderstaande komt van wikipedia, maar wordt ook besproken in bepaalde UFO docu's en lezingen:
J. Allen Hynek
Dr. Josef Allen Hynek (May 1, 1910 – April 27, 1986) was a United States astronomer, professor, and ufologist.[1] He is perhaps best remembered for his UFO research. Hynek acted as scientific adviser to UFO studies undertaken by the U.S. Air Force under three consecutive names: Project Sign (1947–1949), Project Grudge (1949–1952), and Project Blue Book (1952 to 1969).
For decades afterwards, he conducted his own independent UFO research, developing the Close Encounter classification system, and is widely considered the father of the concept of scientific analysis of both reports and, especially, trace evidence purportedly left by UFOs.
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For the first few years of his UFO studies, Hynek could safely be described as a debunker. He thought that a great many UFOs could be explained as prosaic phenomena misidentified by an observer. But beyond such fairly obvious cases, Hynek often stretched logic to nearly the breaking point in an attempt to explain away as many UFO reports as possible. In his 1977 book, Hynek admitted that he enjoyed his role as a debunker for the Air Force. He also noted that debunking was what the Air Force expected of him.
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Hynek's opinions about UFOs began a slow and gradual shift. After examining hundreds of UFO reports over the decades (including some made by credible witnesses, including astronomers, pilots, police officers, and military personnel), Hynek concluded that some reports represented genuine empirical observations.
Another shift in Hynek's opinions came after conducting an informal poll of his astronomer colleagues in the early 1950s. Among those he queried was Dr. Clyde Tombaugh, who discovered the dwarf planet Pluto. Of 44 astronomers, five (over 11 percent) had seen aerial objects that they could not account for with established, mainstream science[citation needed]. Most of these astronomers had not widely shared their accounts for fear of ridicule or of damage to their reputations or careers (Tombaugh was an exception, having openly discussed his own UFO sightings[citation needed]).
Hynek also noted that this 11% figure was, according to most polls, greater than those in the general public who claimed to have seen UFOs[citation needed]. Furthermore, the astronomers were presumably more knowledgeable about observing and evaluating the skies than the general public, so their observations were arguably more impressive. Hynek was also distressed by what he regarded as the dismissive or arrogant attitude of many mainstream scientists towards UFO reports and witnesses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Allen_Hynek
Volgens mij is iets dergelijks het geval voor die Britse ufoloog, die voor defensie werkte. (ben niet zo goed in namen)quote:
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Een bekeerde debunker. Ok.
Dat is dan wel fascinerend. Als een scepticus minder sceptisch wordt, zou je zeggen dat daar een reden voor is.quote:
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Volgens mij is iets dergelijks het geval voor die Britse ufoloog, die voor defensie werkte. (ben niet zo goed in namen)
Ik zou het niet omschrijven als een daling in scepticisme, maar juist dat door sceptisch te zijn je met een kleine hoeveelheid aan gevallen overblijft waar via gebruikelijke methoden geen verklaring is te vinden. Zoals in het geval van Hynek:quote:
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Dat is dan wel fascinerend. Als een scepticus minder sceptisch wordt, zou je zeggen dat daar een reden voor is.
Daarom pleit ik ook voor zo sceptisch mogelijk zijn richting sightings; hoe minder valt weg te verklaren, hoe meer die gevallen pleiten voor de alien spacecraft-hypothese. Of dat uiteindelijk het geval is, moet uiteraard nog blijken uit serieus onderzoek.quote:For the first few years of his UFO studies, Hynek could safely be described as a debunker. He thought that a great many UFOs could be explained as prosaic phenomena misidentified by an observer. But beyond such fairly obvious cases, Hynek often stretched logic to nearly the breaking point in an attempt to explain away as many UFO reports as possible. In his 1977 book, Hynek admitted that he enjoyed his role as a debunker for the Air Force. He also noted that debunking was what the Air Force expected of him.
Op diezelfde manier was ik ook altijd sceptisch, alleen dat wordt niet altijd gewaardeerd.quote:
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Ik zou het niet omschrijven als een daling in scepticisme, maar juist dat door sceptisch te zijn je met een kleine hoeveelheid aan gevallen overblijft waar via gebruikelijke methoden geen verklaring is te vinden. Zoals in het geval van Hynek:
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Daarom pleit ik ook voor zo sceptisch mogelijk zijn richting sightings; hoe minder valt weg te verklaren, hoe meer die gevallen pleiten voor de alien spacecraft-hypothese. Of dat uiteindelijk het geval is, moet uiteraard nog blijken uit serieus onderzoek.
Mensen zijn zo sceptisch tegenover sceptici, he?quote:
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Op diezelfde manier was ik ook altijd sceptisch, alleen dat wordt niet altijd gewaardeerd.
Vond dit wel een beetje bizar:
Drie mensen om het leven? Niet iets om over te liegen, niet?
Betrouwbaar? Wat jullie?quote:Russen zien UFO's vliegen... onder water
De Russische marine komt zo nu en dan eens een UFO tegen. Dat blijkt uit de rapporten die de marine samenstelt. Bovendien zouden de meeste ontmoetingen met UFO's onder water plaats hebben. Dat meldt FoxNews.
Duikboot
"Ze worden vooral gezien in de buurt van Bermudadriehoek, in het diepste deel van de Atlantische Oceaan", zegt een officier van de Russische zeemacht. In een ander incident werd een nucleaire duikboot achtervolgd door zes onbekende voorwerpen. Als de duikboot naar boven kwam, volgden de objecten eveneens uit het water.
Vreemde wezens
Het vreemdste verhaal moet dan nog komen. In het Baikalmeer, het diepste meer ter wereld, zouden Russische duikers van de marine een groep humanoïde wezens gezien hebben die gekleed waren in zilveren pakken. Drie mensen kwamen tijdens de achtervolging om het leven.
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/(...)en-onder-water.dhtml
Drie mensen om het leven? Niet iets om over te liegen, niet?
Volg je hart, gebruik je verstand.
Ik kan helaas (nog) niets vinden over dat voorval met de drie doden. Mocht ik wat vinden dan kom ik er op terug.quote:
Vond dit wel een beetje bizar:
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Betrouwbaar? Wat jullie?
Drie mensen om het leven? Niet iets om over te liegen, niet?
Overigens sta ik er niet gek van te kijken mocht de relatie tussen water en UFO's kloppen. Er wordt gespeculeerd dat UFO's gebruik zouden maken van vortextechnologie, en dat zou in water zeer van pas komen. Onze boten gebruiken dat immers ook.
@PCP:
Ik vroeg eerder naar een lijst met designs van UFO's, en kwam net het volgende tegen:
http://www.hyper.net/ufo/overview.html
Waar ik met vluchtig scrollen ook het volgende tegenkwam:
Hmmm...quote:Water connection: UFOs appear more frequently at low altitude near bodies of fresh water, like lakes (e.g. the Great Lakes at the USA-Canada border are a UFO hot-spot), rivers (e.g. Hudson Valley USA 1983-1985), reservoirs and even swamps (e.g. the wave of sightings in Michigan USA 1966, includes the famous Hynek "swamp gas" incident, a term which became a national joke). UFOs are often reported to hover over lakes and ponds, and even dive or emerge from lakes and seas (e.g. on 19-Jul-1946 four unknown objects plunged into lakes in northern Sweden in the vicinity of Soederhamn, during the wave of "Spoekraketarna" or "ghost rocket" sightings over Sweden in 1946). UFO sighting databases list many cases of UFOs seemingly "sucking" water from lakes, rivers or reservoirs (e.g. New South Wales Australia Dec-1995, fishfarm with water in interconnected tanks in Japan, Parera La Pampa Argentina concrete water tank Oct-2005).
In my country, Greece, there have been UFO reports near Agrinion's lake Trichonida (e.g. Volume #1 of the british magazine "Flying Saucer Review" published a sighting by two men driving a truck on a mountain road near Agrinion in 1955), lake Ioannina and lakes Volvi and Koroneia in northern Halkidiki.
It was author Dr. Ivan T. Sanderson who in the 1970s suggested that aliens could remain undetected by building their bases beneath the Earth's oceans. He found that by actual count, over 50% of the UFO sightings he investigated had occurred over, coming from, or plunging into or coming out of water. This includes lakes, reservoirs, rivers and oceans.
Interessant idd.quote:
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Ik kan helaas (nog) niets vinden over dat voorval met de drie doden. Mocht ik wat vinden dan kom ik er op terug.
Overigens sta ik er niet gek van te kijken mocht de relatie tussen water en UFO's kloppen. Er wordt gespeculeerd dat UFO's gebruik zouden maken van vortextechnologie, en dat zou in water zeer van pas komen. Onze boten gebruiken dat immers ook.
@PCP:
Ik vroeg eerder naar een lijst met designs van UFO's, en kwam net het volgende tegen:
http://www.hyper.net/ufo/overview.html
Waar ik met vluchtig scrollen ook het volgende tegenkwam:
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Hmmm...
Volg je hart, gebruik je verstand.
Eens even doorlezenquote:
@PCP:
Ik vroeg eerder naar een lijst met designs van UFO's, en kwam net het volgende tegen:
http://www.hyper.net/ufo/overview.html
"An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people."
Wil je iets voor me doen.quote:
Waar ik met vluchtig scrollen ook het volgende tegenkwam:
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Hmmm...
Kijk deze docu, in z'n geheel.
Er zit een leuke opbouw in en hij zal, zolang je er de tijd voor neemt om in gezogen te worden, vermakelijk en zeker interessant zijn..
Tell me when you did, dan kom ik nog terug op dat laatste stuk.
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"Computer says: no.."
"Laat hen gaan, blinden zijn zij, die blinden leiden. Indien een blinde een blinde leidt, zullen zij beiden in een put vallen". (Matteüs 15:14)
"Computer says: no.."
"Laat hen gaan, blinden zijn zij, die blinden leiden. Indien een blinde een blinde leidt, zullen zij beiden in een put vallen". (Matteüs 15:14)
Nick Popequote:
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Volgens mij is iets dergelijks het geval voor die Britse ufoloog, die voor defensie werkte. (ben niet zo goed in namen)
Ik ga het vanavond kijken.quote:
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Wil je iets voor me doen.
Kijk deze docu, in z'n geheel.
Er zit een leuke opbouw in en hij zal, zolang je er de tijd voor neemt om in gezogen te worden, vermakelijk en zeker interessant zijn..
Tell me when you did, dan kom ik nog terug op dat laatste stuk.
Die ja!quote:
Op 
Ik las laatst dat hij bij een congres in Roswell zei dat hij verwachtte dat na de disclosure van GB andere landen zouden volgen. Rusland volgde iig al, met opzienbarende verslagen. Welke landen zullen volgen?
September 4, 1971 - Lago de Cote, Costa Rica
The photo above (cropped and enlarged) was taken by a Costa Rican government mapping plane during an aerial mapping mission. This UFO photograph is unique for several reasons. 1) The photograph was taken by a high-quality, professional camera. 2) The unidentified object is plainly visible against the uniformly dark background of the lake and appears in sharp focus. 3) The camera was aimed downward and the plane was flying at a known, fixed altitude (10,000 feet), which makes it easy to calculate a maximum size for the object (683 feet).
The plane carried a crew of four; a specialist in aerial photography, a geographer, a topographer, and the pilot. No member of the crew stated that they saw anything unusual during the routine flight.
Much analysis has been undertaken using the original negative, most notably by Dr. Richard F. Haines and Dr. Jacques F. Vallee. It seems safe to assume that it is not a double-exposure or the result of manipulation of the negative. All indications are that this is a photo of a large three-dimensional disk , or shallow cone, [hovering?] above, and possibly partially submerged in Lago de Cote.
There were apparently no witnesses to the disk's presence at the time of the photograph, but other incidents at that location had been reported by local farmers, involving strange, artificial objects moving around the surface or just below the surface of the lake. (NURMUFO)
http://www.ufoevidence.or(...)dphotos/Photo303.htm
The photo above (cropped and enlarged) was taken by a Costa Rican government mapping plane during an aerial mapping mission. This UFO photograph is unique for several reasons. 1) The photograph was taken by a high-quality, professional camera. 2) The unidentified object is plainly visible against the uniformly dark background of the lake and appears in sharp focus. 3) The camera was aimed downward and the plane was flying at a known, fixed altitude (10,000 feet), which makes it easy to calculate a maximum size for the object (683 feet).
The plane carried a crew of four; a specialist in aerial photography, a geographer, a topographer, and the pilot. No member of the crew stated that they saw anything unusual during the routine flight.
Much analysis has been undertaken using the original negative, most notably by Dr. Richard F. Haines and Dr. Jacques F. Vallee. It seems safe to assume that it is not a double-exposure or the result of manipulation of the negative. All indications are that this is a photo of a large three-dimensional disk , or shallow cone, [hovering?] above, and possibly partially submerged in Lago de Cote.
There were apparently no witnesses to the disk's presence at the time of the photograph, but other incidents at that location had been reported by local farmers, involving strange, artificial objects moving around the surface or just below the surface of the lake. (NURMUFO)
http://www.ufoevidence.or(...)dphotos/Photo303.htm
"An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people."
January 31, 2008 - Indiana, USA
Report and photographs submitted to MUFON (Mutual UFO Network - mufon.com)
Indiana-01-31-2008-I was home alone and decided to go to the kitchen to get a glass of water and maybe find a snack. Just as I approached the kitchen/dining room area (they're the same room and we have a bay-window/patio door there) I noticed what I immediately thought was a helicopter about 300-400 feet away, just across the street and above the tree-line. Because we kind of live in the country, I thought that was unusual... then it hit me that I couldn't hear any noise at all! And then the obvious shape difference hit me like a bag of rocks and I ran for my camera - literally (I almost tripped over a rug).
I don't know how long it was there before I saw it, but it hung around for 2 or 3 minutes after I noticed it... not moving or flashing or anything. The only thing I noticed was a sort of wavy-ness of the air surrounding the object - that's probably what stuck me most, actually. It resembled kind of what you see over a hot road on a summer day. It was getting dark, but I distinctly remember the dark tree line shimmering just below the object, against the sky-glow.
I had just enough time to take a picture on my camera (before the batteries died), and then I got one on my cell phone right before it "disappeared" --- I say that, because I believe it just went directly away from me at a high speed very suddenly... it actually appeared to grow smaller and disappear, but curve up slightly as it was doing so. The direction was about directly westward I believe.
Long ago, when I was a young kid, I remember seeing a funny light in the sky (from very far away) and watching it do all sorts of "tricks" ~ but I couldn't actually see it as an object. This is the only other time that I have seen something this close, that I know from my own eyes what I saw in a detailed manner. Very exciting indeed (although the first couple nights were difficult to sleep well!)
http://www.ufoevidence.or(...)recent/firstpage.htm
Report and photographs submitted to MUFON (Mutual UFO Network - mufon.com)
Indiana-01-31-2008-I was home alone and decided to go to the kitchen to get a glass of water and maybe find a snack. Just as I approached the kitchen/dining room area (they're the same room and we have a bay-window/patio door there) I noticed what I immediately thought was a helicopter about 300-400 feet away, just across the street and above the tree-line. Because we kind of live in the country, I thought that was unusual... then it hit me that I couldn't hear any noise at all! And then the obvious shape difference hit me like a bag of rocks and I ran for my camera - literally (I almost tripped over a rug).
I don't know how long it was there before I saw it, but it hung around for 2 or 3 minutes after I noticed it... not moving or flashing or anything. The only thing I noticed was a sort of wavy-ness of the air surrounding the object - that's probably what stuck me most, actually. It resembled kind of what you see over a hot road on a summer day. It was getting dark, but I distinctly remember the dark tree line shimmering just below the object, against the sky-glow.
I had just enough time to take a picture on my camera (before the batteries died), and then I got one on my cell phone right before it "disappeared" --- I say that, because I believe it just went directly away from me at a high speed very suddenly... it actually appeared to grow smaller and disappear, but curve up slightly as it was doing so. The direction was about directly westward I believe.
Long ago, when I was a young kid, I remember seeing a funny light in the sky (from very far away) and watching it do all sorts of "tricks" ~ but I couldn't actually see it as an object. This is the only other time that I have seen something this close, that I know from my own eyes what I saw in a detailed manner. Very exciting indeed (although the first couple nights were difficult to sleep well!)
http://www.ufoevidence.or(...)recent/firstpage.htm
"An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people."
December 8th, 1992 - Puebla, Mexico
In Puebla, Mexico on December 8th, 1992 at midday, a passenger in a vehicle, who prefers to remain anonymous, observed and photographed a strange unidentified flying object outside the passenger's window. This incident occurred during the height of the Mexican UFO wave of 1992. Note the very close approach of the craft in this case.
Source / Credit: UFOs at Close Sight (Patrick Gross) Original source webpage / article
http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/section/1990s/Photo57.htm
In Puebla, Mexico on December 8th, 1992 at midday, a passenger in a vehicle, who prefers to remain anonymous, observed and photographed a strange unidentified flying object outside the passenger's window. This incident occurred during the height of the Mexican UFO wave of 1992. Note the very close approach of the craft in this case.
Source / Credit: UFOs at Close Sight (Patrick Gross) Original source webpage / article
http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/section/1990s/Photo57.htm
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February, 2003 - Weyauwega, Wisconsin, USA (Waupaca County)
My son and I were visiting a friend of mine in Weyauwega. I am reluctant to reveal the exact location out of concern for my friend's privacy as well as my own. However the general location is just North of Main street on the East side of 110 and South of the train tracks. My boy was sledding in the snow and I was taking pictures. It was in the evening and was starting to get dark pretty quickly. My son pointed up to the sky and we noticed some lights coming in from what I believe is the south west.
At that point I just pointed the camera up and took the shots. The object really gave me the impression of a balloon - except for the lights. They seemed to cycle all different patterns. The object passed almost directly overhead (picture 1) and then headed south towards the train tracks (picture 2). As the object passed I could make out more of a disk shape than a balloon shape. I just remember my son asking me over and over what it was and I didn't have a clue.
Note: 2/24/03 - As of today we have been unable to contact this witness to further investigate this sighting. The witness has not responded to our emails and did not include any further contact information with the report. Any new information will be posted here.
More analysis at:
http://www.ufowisconsin.c(...)weyauwegaphotos.html
Weyauwega UFO
Photographic Evaluation
Anyone familiar with the subject of UFOs has seen the hazy, out-of-focus, or grainy pictures of what might be strange craft in the sky, so when a clear picture of an alleged UFO appears it is immediately regarded with suspicion. These two pictures are intriguing for what they appear to show - a twilight disk with no obvious signs of a hoax.
This alleged sighting took place in the vicinity of Weyauwega, Wisconsin early February of this year, as reported in the Feb. 26 issue of UFO Roundup and on UFOWisconsin.com.
The witness states that she was outside during the evening and happened to notice lights that passed overhead. She says that her impression was the lights were from a balloon, which should be noted, but the photographs that she took seem to depict something other than a hot-air balloon or dirigible.
The witness did not provide any further details and has chosen not to say any more about the sightings and photos. This should be taken into consideration when deciding on the validity of the sighting but could indicate a couple of things. The witness could simply be protecting her privacy, not unreasonable in an event as strange as this, or she does not wish to be identified as a hoaxer.
In either possibility, the photographs remain interesting and worthy of further scrutiny.
Photograph 1
This picture clearly shows a circular-shaped object with three bright white lights and a small red light in a position high in the sky relative to the photographer. The camera appears to be well focused on the object in comparison to the trees in the foreground with enough light remaining in the sky for good depth-of-field.
A contrast-enhanced enlargement of the picture shows us image compression artifacts consistent with the JPEG compression used in digital cameras. (Indicated by the boxy appearence of the sky and granularity around the edges of the branches.)
The object appears to be behind the branches of the tree in the foreground, with the notable exception of the light on the lower-left portion of the disk. However, because of the brightness of the lights (which is more evident in the second photograph) it would be consistent that the thin branch would be washed out. Also notice there is a small branch evident in front of the much dimmer red light.
We can see no obvious digital manipulation of the image, such as smearing from a digital 'paintbrush' or inconsistencies where the object might have been carefully masked to appear as though it were behind the branches.
The object also appears washed out in the image, which is consistent with how an object might appear at a great height during a cloudy evening. This would say that it wasn't an object simply hoisted behind a tree or some kind of lighted frisbee.
Photograph 2
This picture shows a disk-shaped object with four lights with an aqua cast in a position lower in the sky relative to the photographer than the first. Although less distinct than the first photograph, a circular or disk shaped outline can be seen through the tree branches.
Similarly to the first picture, the object seems to be behind the tree. This picture is less compelling than the first, but it, like the last, shows no obvious sign of digital tampering.
Conclusions
While there is nothing apparent in these images to give reason to doubt there integrity, there is still no way to be absolutely certain they were not faked. They were apparently taken with a relatively low-end digital camera, but there are plenty of ways that they could have been made to appear that way. If the pictures had been taken with a 35MM camera and the negatives were available for evaluation, we could be much more certain about their legitimacy.
With those reservations aside, I am intrigued by what they do show. If real, these pictures are some of the clearest I have seen of a low-flying daylight disk. Now, it's possible that Goodyear or the nice folks in the Air Force decided to send a top-secret prototype blimp to buzz Weyauwega, but I doubt it.
http://www.ufoevidence.or(...)/post2000/Photo9.htm
Source / Credit: UFO Wisconsin Report
My son and I were visiting a friend of mine in Weyauwega. I am reluctant to reveal the exact location out of concern for my friend's privacy as well as my own. However the general location is just North of Main street on the East side of 110 and South of the train tracks. My boy was sledding in the snow and I was taking pictures. It was in the evening and was starting to get dark pretty quickly. My son pointed up to the sky and we noticed some lights coming in from what I believe is the south west.
At that point I just pointed the camera up and took the shots. The object really gave me the impression of a balloon - except for the lights. They seemed to cycle all different patterns. The object passed almost directly overhead (picture 1) and then headed south towards the train tracks (picture 2). As the object passed I could make out more of a disk shape than a balloon shape. I just remember my son asking me over and over what it was and I didn't have a clue.
Note: 2/24/03 - As of today we have been unable to contact this witness to further investigate this sighting. The witness has not responded to our emails and did not include any further contact information with the report. Any new information will be posted here.
More analysis at:
http://www.ufowisconsin.c(...)weyauwegaphotos.html
Weyauwega UFO
Photographic Evaluation
Anyone familiar with the subject of UFOs has seen the hazy, out-of-focus, or grainy pictures of what might be strange craft in the sky, so when a clear picture of an alleged UFO appears it is immediately regarded with suspicion. These two pictures are intriguing for what they appear to show - a twilight disk with no obvious signs of a hoax.
This alleged sighting took place in the vicinity of Weyauwega, Wisconsin early February of this year, as reported in the Feb. 26 issue of UFO Roundup and on UFOWisconsin.com.
The witness states that she was outside during the evening and happened to notice lights that passed overhead. She says that her impression was the lights were from a balloon, which should be noted, but the photographs that she took seem to depict something other than a hot-air balloon or dirigible.
The witness did not provide any further details and has chosen not to say any more about the sightings and photos. This should be taken into consideration when deciding on the validity of the sighting but could indicate a couple of things. The witness could simply be protecting her privacy, not unreasonable in an event as strange as this, or she does not wish to be identified as a hoaxer.
In either possibility, the photographs remain interesting and worthy of further scrutiny.
Photograph 1
This picture clearly shows a circular-shaped object with three bright white lights and a small red light in a position high in the sky relative to the photographer. The camera appears to be well focused on the object in comparison to the trees in the foreground with enough light remaining in the sky for good depth-of-field.
A contrast-enhanced enlargement of the picture shows us image compression artifacts consistent with the JPEG compression used in digital cameras. (Indicated by the boxy appearence of the sky and granularity around the edges of the branches.)
The object appears to be behind the branches of the tree in the foreground, with the notable exception of the light on the lower-left portion of the disk. However, because of the brightness of the lights (which is more evident in the second photograph) it would be consistent that the thin branch would be washed out. Also notice there is a small branch evident in front of the much dimmer red light.
We can see no obvious digital manipulation of the image, such as smearing from a digital 'paintbrush' or inconsistencies where the object might have been carefully masked to appear as though it were behind the branches.
The object also appears washed out in the image, which is consistent with how an object might appear at a great height during a cloudy evening. This would say that it wasn't an object simply hoisted behind a tree or some kind of lighted frisbee.
Photograph 2
This picture shows a disk-shaped object with four lights with an aqua cast in a position lower in the sky relative to the photographer than the first. Although less distinct than the first photograph, a circular or disk shaped outline can be seen through the tree branches.
Similarly to the first picture, the object seems to be behind the tree. This picture is less compelling than the first, but it, like the last, shows no obvious sign of digital tampering.
Conclusions
While there is nothing apparent in these images to give reason to doubt there integrity, there is still no way to be absolutely certain they were not faked. They were apparently taken with a relatively low-end digital camera, but there are plenty of ways that they could have been made to appear that way. If the pictures had been taken with a 35MM camera and the negatives were available for evaluation, we could be much more certain about their legitimacy.
With those reservations aside, I am intrigued by what they do show. If real, these pictures are some of the clearest I have seen of a low-flying daylight disk. Now, it's possible that Goodyear or the nice folks in the Air Force decided to send a top-secret prototype blimp to buzz Weyauwega, but I doubt it.
http://www.ufoevidence.or(...)/post2000/Photo9.htm
Source / Credit: UFO Wisconsin Report
"An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people."
September 29, 2001 - Hungary
BUDAPEST, Hungary - A military pilot recorded a spectacular video of a silver disk object on September 29, 2001. The craft was flying to his left side and then moved very fast past him in the clouds as can be seen in the video.
"I was on a flight over Budapest, Hungary," said the pilot, who has requested that his name be withheld until the official inquiry by the Hungarian Ministry of Defence is complete.
"To my left I saw a bright metal aircraft that was the shape of a perfect disk. I was careful to film the object, not to try and chase it since it I could not match its speed. As I was flying a reconnaisance aircraft, I got the idea to film it and used our equipment."
Officials at the Ministry of Defence would not answer questions about the video when asked and warned that officially they have no comment. Despite the denial, when informed of the pilot's name, they did acknowledge that the he was a real air force pilot and that it was true that he flew photo reconnaisance airplanes.
The pilot considers the video he made to be his property and not the Hungarian governments as he was flying the plane while not on duty and was transporting it as a favor to save the government money. He has now hired an attorney and wants the video to be released to the public. He hopes the release of a few frames will make this happen.
[from Hungarian press news article, translated into English]
Source / Credit: Kal Korff / Rense.com Original source webpage / article
http://www.rense.com/general15/pilotufo.htm
BUDAPEST, Hungary - A military pilot recorded a spectacular video of a silver disk object on September 29, 2001. The craft was flying to his left side and then moved very fast past him in the clouds as can be seen in the video.
"I was on a flight over Budapest, Hungary," said the pilot, who has requested that his name be withheld until the official inquiry by the Hungarian Ministry of Defence is complete.
"To my left I saw a bright metal aircraft that was the shape of a perfect disk. I was careful to film the object, not to try and chase it since it I could not match its speed. As I was flying a reconnaisance aircraft, I got the idea to film it and used our equipment."
Officials at the Ministry of Defence would not answer questions about the video when asked and warned that officially they have no comment. Despite the denial, when informed of the pilot's name, they did acknowledge that the he was a real air force pilot and that it was true that he flew photo reconnaisance airplanes.
The pilot considers the video he made to be his property and not the Hungarian governments as he was flying the plane while not on duty and was transporting it as a favor to save the government money. He has now hired an attorney and wants the video to be released to the public. He hopes the release of a few frames will make this happen.
[from Hungarian press news article, translated into English]
Source / Credit: Kal Korff / Rense.com Original source webpage / article
http://www.rense.com/general15/pilotufo.htm
"An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people."
Afgelopen weekend volgens mij een Aurora voorbij zien vliegen. Vloog erg laag. Het vreemde is, de mensen met wie ik was keken er helemaal niet vreemd van op. Nog nooit zo'n vliegtuig in het echt gezien en hij vloog zo laag dat ik er bijna zeker van ben dat het een Aurora was. Het is misschien geen UFO, maar wel een prachtig ding.
Vanaf 3:00 zie je het vliegtuig wat ik dacht te hebben gezien.
[ Bericht 25% gewijzigd door J2T op 26-03-2012 08:58:03 ]
Vanaf 3:00 zie je het vliegtuig wat ik dacht te hebben gezien.
[ Bericht 25% gewijzigd door J2T op 26-03-2012 08:58:03 ]
Als het het toestel van 3.00 tot 3.30 ongeveer dan is dat geen Aurora geweest maar een F-117 Nighthawk.quote:
Afgelopen weekend volgens mij een Aurora voorbij zien vliegen. Vloog erg laag. Het vreemde is, de mensen met wie ik was keken er helemaal niet vreemd van op. Nog nooit zo'n vliegtuig in het echt gezien en hij vloog zo laag dat ik er bijna zeker van ben dat het een Aurora was. Het is misschien geen UFO, maar wel een prachtig ding.
Vanaf 3:00 zie je het vliegtuig wat ik dacht te hebben gezien.
Jij zegt dat je dit zag:
maar van 3.17 tot 3.19 is te zien dat het toestel voorbij de maan taxiet en is duidelijk de achterkant te zien, met 2 vinnen die als een overdreven peace teken gevormd zijn, en dat heeft de Aurora blijkbaar niet. De Nighthawk heeft dat wel:
Zie ook: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-117_Nighthawk
Echter, de VS vliegen niet meer met dit toestel sinds 2008 (buiten de VS denk ik, aangezien hij 2010 nog gezien is in de VS volgens de wiki), dus ik denk dat de kans ook klein is dat je een F117 hebt gezien.
[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door CoolGuy op 26-03-2012 15:55:27 ]
Breitling - Instruments for Professionals
Ben bang dat hij die niet heeftquote:
"An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people."
Ik denk het ook niet.quote:
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Ben bang dat hij die niet heeft
Leuke sighting:
Korte toelichting van de persoon die het heeft gefilmd:
Een professional die de beelden analyseert:
Korte toelichting van de persoon die het heeft gefilmd:
Een professional die de beelden analyseert:
"An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people."
Unidentified Flying Object onder water? okay nou neem ik jullie niet meer serieus t
"When you poop in your dreams, you poop for real"
(Peter Griffin)
(Peter Griffin)
nu pas?quote:
okay nou neem ik jullie niet meer serieus t
O)))
Dat heet een uso..quote:
Unidentified Flying Object onder water? okay nou neem ik jullie niet meer serieus t
Unidentified submarine object..
Ik weet dat het lastig is om serieus te blijven als het om een controversieel onderwerp gaat. Als je het echt niet serieus kunt nemen, kun je bv. ook niet posten.
[ Bericht 7% gewijzigd door Enneacanthus_Obesus op 03-04-2012 12:52:50 ]
Mensen schijnen ze toch regelmatig te zien:quote:
Unidentified Flying Object onder water? okay nou neem ik jullie niet meer serieus t
"An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people."
sorry dat ik nogal sceptisch ben in dit topic, ik vind dit hele gedoe rondom ufo's en buitenaardse wezens reuze interessant. ik heb gewoon moeite om te geloven dat wij echt in de gaten worden gehouden door ruimteschepen of zelfs aliens op aarde, ik heb concreet bewijs nodig om ergens in te geloven (net als met religie bijv.). misschien is het bewijs er al maar ben ik gehersenspoeld door de autoriteiten of wat het is waar jullie in geloven dat de reden is waarom het gros niet in aliens geloofd.
"When you poop in your dreams, you poop for real"
(Peter Griffin)
(Peter Griffin)
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