quote:Op dinsdag 18 oktober 2011 19:00 schreef Fredo55 het volgende:
Ik weet niet of iemand het gezien had, maar mijn maag draaide om toen ik zag dat het mevrouw niets deed dat 8 kinderen zijn gedood door haar toedoen. En dat dan zo iemand vrij komt.
En een debat bij P&W nu/straks.quote:Op dinsdag 18 oktober 2011 22:07 schreef Disana het volgende:
Zometeen Dries van Agt over de gevangenenruil in Nieuwsuur op Ned 2.
Wat is dat nou weer voor zionistische propaganda van onze belastingcenten!quote:Op dinsdag 18 oktober 2011 22:38 schreef Type-R het volgende:
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das het mooie nu juist, de IDF heeft geen boodschap aan toestemming van de rabbiquote:Op dinsdag 18 oktober 2011 23:01 schreef Adam1981 het volgende:
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Wat is dat nou weer voor zionistische propaganda van onze belastingcenten!
Ik eis dat ze een bloeddorstige IDF-generaal aan het woord laten die uitlegt hoe hij toestemming heeft gekregen van zijn rabbi om Palestijnse kinderen met fosfor te bestoken.
Ik vraag me af wat die atheïsten doen in het heilige land als ze toch niet in God geloven.quote:Op dinsdag 18 oktober 2011 23:06 schreef sp3c het volgende:
das het mooie nu juist, de IDF heeft geen boodschap aan toestemming van de rabbi
leuk als het er is maar als de Rabbi het er niet mee eens is heeft hij gewoon pech gehad
levenquote:Op dinsdag 18 oktober 2011 23:08 schreef Adam1981 het volgende:
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Ik vraag me af wat die atheïsten doen in het heilige land als ze toch niet in God geloven.
Dan kunnen ze net zo goed Madagascar gaan koloniseren.
echt ongelofelijk.zit er nu echt geen grammetje menselijkheid in deze mensen .quote:No doubt, the Arabs won
Op-ed: Shalit deal proves that Israel not even close to matching Arab barbarity, heartlessness
Yigal Walt
Published: 10.18.11, 17:55 / Israel Opinion
The Arab side is the clear winner of the Gilad Shalit swap. If anyone around here thought Israel could challenge the Arab standards of cruelty and primitivism, Tuesday’s events sat the record straight. We lost the sadism contest by knock-out.
It started in the West Bank, where Hamas fans marked the joyous occasion of their countrymen’s release from jail with some trademark Arab civility: Urging renewed terror attacks and the butchering of Jews. Indeed, when it comes to pure lust for Jewish blood, the Palestinians outshine virtually any competitors.
Watch Gilad's interview with Egyptian TV (Hebrew narration)
Egyptian TV
Later, Palestinians in Bitunia continued their celebration with another highly sophisticated tradition: Hurling stones at Israeli security forces (deployed in the area in order to ensure the safety of released Arab detainees.) Here too, our Arab neighbors won the much-coveted “We live in the Stone Age” award hands down.
Yet the true highlight of the day came later, when Egypt delayed Shalit’s return for the sake of a forced interview on Egyptian national television. In what must have been one of the most embarrassing, disgraceful moments in the history of global journalism, a callous so-called newswoman bombarded the just-released, barely breathing Shalit with a series of brainless questions ranging from awkward to outright idiotic (“So why were more videos of you not released?” “What lessons did you learn from your captivity?”)
The Egyptian dimwit also did not miss the chance to serve up some good old propaganda, asking Shalit whether he will be joining a campaign to free the remaining 4,000 Arab prisoners upon his return to Israel. Shalit’s ability to handle this merciless, moronic ambush under such incredibly difficult conditions speaks volumes about his mental strength and noble character, which starkly contradicted his interviewer’s stunning senselessness.
Israel an island of civility
The Egyptian anchorwoman, Shahira Amin, later took pride in her great “scoop” in an interview with Israeli TV, highlighting how clueless she is in respect to enlightened journalistic standards. With her shameful performance she joined a long list of fellow Arabs who had proved time and again in the past that speaking fluent English and wearing modern clothes does not make one intelligent, civilized or humane.
Notably, while all this was going on, Israel went about its side of the deal with customary dignity, avoiding any disparagement of the freed Palestinian prisoners.
The above statements should be qualified with two notes: Firstly, not all Arabs are like this. It is not the Arab “race” that is flawed, but rather, Arab culture and society which are mired in a cesspool of primitivism and barbarity. One can only pity the honorable, intelligent citizens of these societies for being surrounded by such spectacular mediocrity.
Secondly, despite our neighbors’ unsavory character, these are our “partners for coexistence” in our home region, the Middle East. As such, we must do everything in our power to maintain our peace treaty with Egypt, a priceless asset for Israel, and attempt to secure some kind of understandings (rather than “peace”) with our Palestinian foes.
Yet while doing this, we should always keep in mind the kind of people we are dealing with, as was made clear during Tuesday’s events. Israel is indeed a villa in the jungle, an island of civility surrounded by mean-spirited, wicked barbarians
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4136659,00.html.
Het lijkt steeds meer op "nee".quote:Op woensdag 19 oktober 2011 00:22 schreef C_N het volgende:
echt ongelofelijk.zit er nu echt geen grammetje menselijkheid in deze mensen .
quote:Egyptian newswoman defends Shalit interview
Shahira Amin says she was unaware Israeli soldier was forced to submit to interview
Ynet
Latest Update: 10.18.11, 22:16 / Israel News
Egyptian anchorwoman Shahira Amin, who came under for her insensitive interview with Gilad Shalit moments after he was released from Hamas captivity, told BBC network that she was unaware that Shalit was forced to submit to an interview.
Responding to harsh criticism of what was described by many media outlets as a "cruel" interview, Amin said she asked to conduct the interview, and was simply told it would be arranged. However, it was not confirmed until the last moment, she said, adding she did not realize it was a forced interview.
Related stories:
Op-ed: Egyptian interview highlights Arab barbarity
Gilad Shalit: I Thought I'd stay in captivity for years
Officials in Israel said Tuesday evening they were surprised by the Egyptian interview and were unaware of Cairo's plans. Defense officials stressed that the TV interview was not undertaken with Israel's consent, coordination or knowledge.
As Israeli officials did not imagine that the Egyptians would seek to interview Shalit, the issue was not discussed in the meetings ahead of the swap and no request to avoid such interview was submitted by Jerusalem.
Amin became one of the heroes of Egypt's uprising in February of this year after quitting the Nile TV network to join anti-government protestors.
Shalit interviewed on Egyptian TV
At the time she said she was not allowed to cover what was happening at Cairo's Tahrir Square, adding that she did not wish to be part of a "propaganda machine."
For full coverage of Shalit's homecoming, click here
However, Amin's crude interview with Shalit Tuesday morning featured heavy pro-Egyptian and pro-Palestinian propaganda. Through the interview, the anchorwoman attempted to prompt Shalit to praise Egypt for its role in arranging the prisoner exchange.
Waiting for prisoners in Gaza Strip (Photo: EPA)
At one point she also asked the Israeli soldier whether he would be joining a campaign to free Arab prisoners held by Israel upon his return to the Jewish State.
During Tuesday's interview, which was aired by Egypt's national television station, it appeared that Amin was virtually abusing Shalit, moments after he was brought to Egypt from Gaza.
Shalit was having trouble breathing during the interview and looked exhausted and confused, yet Amin kept on presenting him with questions, many of them absurd and ridiculous.
Responding to the anchorwoman's question regarding remaining Palestinian prisoners, Shalit said he would be happy to see them released, as long as they no longer attack Israel.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4136728,00.html
Dat.quote:Op woensdag 19 oktober 2011 07:10 schreef Karrs het volgende:
Iets in mij zegt dat er de komende tijd nogal wat surgical strikes gaan plaatsvinden in Gaza de komende tijd.
Zo lang jij selectief op zoek gaat naar gekleurd nieuws zal je angstbeeld inderdaad bevestigd worden.quote:
Wat vind je van die vrouw? En van haar glimlachende reactie?quote:Op woensdag 19 oktober 2011 07:30 schreef De_Nuance het volgende:
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Zo lang jij selectief op zoek gaat naar gekleurd nieuws zal je angstbeeld inderdaad bevestigd worden.
Wat denk je zelf ?quote:Op woensdag 19 oktober 2011 07:31 schreef Karrs het volgende:
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Wat vind je van die vrouw? En van haar glimlachende reactie?
Al wat ik zie is een ad-hominem:quote:
in plaats van een instemmende reactie (plus de nodige nuancering).quote:Op woensdag 19 oktober 2011 07:30 schreef De_Nuance het volgende:
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Zo lang jij selectief op zoek gaat naar gekleurd nieuws zal je angstbeeld inderdaad bevestigd worden.
"Maar hunnie doen het oook!quote:Op woensdag 19 oktober 2011 07:34 schreef De_Nuance het volgende:
Hetzelfde wat ik vind als ik hier fokkers zie juichen om de dood van Palestijnse kinderen die ze dan 'ratten' noemen. Ziek dus.
mvr mona was bang dat ze vermoord zou worden in de strook, van al de shit wat ze in de gevangenis heb uitgehaald ,ik zal ze geen hond noemen,wand die hebben meer menselijkheid in hun dan mvr monaquote:Prisoners arrive in Turkey after captive swap
Amna Muna who refused to be moved to Gaza Tuesday lands in Ankara together with 10 other prisoners
Reuters
Published: 10.19.11, 08:18 / Israel News
Eleven Palestinians made V-for-victory signs as they arrived in Turkey early on Wednesday as part of the thousand-for-one prisoner exchange, television pictures showed.
Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit and hundreds of Palestinians crossed Israel's borders in opposite directions on Tuesday under the swap, one of the biggest ever such exchanges between the two sides.
Related stories:
Gaza: Masses celebrate prisoners' release
Mashaal to prisoners: You will return to Palestine
A private plane flew the ten men and one woman from Cairo to the Turkish capital Ankara, where they were met at Esenboga Airport by the Palestinian ambassador to Ankara Nabil Maarouf and Turkish foreign ministry officials.
Amna Muna gestures V in Ankara (Photo: Reuters)
Among the Palestinians was Amna Muna, who on Tuesday caused a brief delay in the implementation of the deal after refusing to be moved to the Gaza Strip.
Muna lured teenager Ofir Rahum to his death in 2001. She is considered the leader of the female Palestinian prisoners held in Israel and previous reports suggested she terrorized inmates. It was feared that families of the prisoners will seek revenge over her abuse of the other inmates.
For full coverage of Shalit's homecoming, click here
"We are grateful to the Turkish government for its support in the process of releasing the Palestinians and bringing them to Turkey," state-run Anatolian news agency quoted Maarouf as telling reporters at the airport.
"God willing we will continue to seek Turkey's support until Palestine attains freedom," he added.
Media reports said the 11 were spending the night in Ankara but it was not disclosed where for security reasons.
Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu had announced on Tuesday that about 10 Palestinians would come to Turkey. Some 40 of the Palestinians were sent to Turkey, Syria and Qatar.
Davutoglu said Turkey was willing to assist the prisoner exchange as it believes it will support the peace process. He described the prisoner swap as having a humanitarian element.
Meanwhile, Turkey's Hurriyet newspaper quoted an official source as saying Ankara will keep the prisoners away from the public eye for the time being for their own personal safety. Israel, the report said, did not demand any special conditions from Ankara in handling the prisoners.
Turkey's once-close ties with fellow regional power Israel have deteriorated sharply since Israeli naval commandos killed nine Turks in May 2010 in a raid on a ship carrying aid to the Gaza Strip.
Turkey downgraded diplomatic ties with Israel and halted defense trade after the Jewish state confirmed last month it would not apologize for the raid.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4136803,00.html
Lijkt me evident. Maar men heeft al genoeg aan 1 tegenwoordig om de troefkaart "hunnie ook!" te trekken.quote:Op woensdag 19 oktober 2011 07:38 schreef Karrs het volgende:
"Maar hunnie doen het oook!"
Je doet voorkomen of de verhouding haters aan 'beide kanten' gelijk ligt, maar zo is het niet. Haar reactie staat model voor zo'n 80% van de Palestijnse bevolking; die juichende 'fokkers' voor slechts 20% (en dat lijkt me al veel).
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