Omdat ze je geleerd hebben zo te denken.quote:Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 02:52 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:
Gemaskerde demonstranten zijn altijd verdacht imo.
Eugh nee ik dacht vroeger juist dat het cool was.quote:Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 03:56 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
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Omdat ze je geleerd hebben zo te denken.
Hier het gebeurd al:quote:Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 01:28 schreef Eyjafjallajoekull het volgende:
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Zou kunnen. Ik sluit het zwart maken van deze betogers door sommige media en politici niet uit idd.
quote:Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 09:24 schreef Eyjafjallajoekull het volgende:
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Hier het gebeurd al:
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)index.html?hpt=hp_t2
quote:Rep. Peter King (R-NY): Do Not Allow Any Legitimacy For Wall Street Protests, Or It Will Be Like 1960s Again
Speaking with right-wing radio show host Laura Ingraham on Friday, Rep. Peter King (R-NY), the chairman of the Homeland Security Committee, blasted the media for providing fair coverage to the Occupy Wall Street protests. “They have no sense of purpose other than a basically anti-American tone,” he said.
King also explained that he is “old enough to remember what happened in the 1960s when the left-wing took to the streets and somehow the media glorified them and it ended up shaping policy.” He added, “We can’t allow that to happen”:
Listen here:
King is right that the 99 Percent Movement, with “occupation” actions from Sacramento to New York City and beyond, mirrors the broad-based protest movements of the 1960s. Back then, millions of American engaged in street protests which eventually led to the end of legal racial segregation, the creation of Medicare and Medicaid, as well as other successful programs to reduce the level of poverty and human suffering in America. The same protest movement King fears also led to the development of the Environmental Protection Agency, the birth of the mainstream feminist and gay rights movement, and the end of the wars in Indochina.
It might seem natural that King is an opponent of the 99 Percent Movement. He has spent much of his career in Congress placing the corporate interest over the public interest. For instance, King made a high-stakes legislative move to block health benefits for the rescue workers who developed cancer as a result of their heroic work during after the 9/11 terror attacks. He blocked the money because it was paid for by ending certain tax loopholes for foreign corporations. Indeed, like many of his GOP colleagues, King placed the foreign wealthy one percent over the people who risked their lives rescuing people at the World Trade Center.
Waarom niet naar het Pentagom ipv een museumquote:Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 02:52 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:
Het was een klein groepje betogers tegen de oorlog in Afghanistan (10 jaar oorlog deze week).
Ze hadden het museum uitgekozen omdat er daar drones ed. gedisplayed worden.
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Ze gingen voor de deur zitten en liggen en de bewakers hebben ze proberen weg te jagen.
Stelde allemaal niks voor.
Media doet haar uiterste best OWS te negeren maar er is een heel klein opstootje en gelijk er bovenop. Terwijl deze lui niet eens van de OWS waren.
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Zouden best een paar provocateurs kunnen zitten. Gemaskerde demonstranten zijn altijd verdacht imo.
Omdat Guantanamo nog open is, omdat de patriot act (zij het en "mildere" vorm) nog steeds van kracht is ?quote:Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 12:41 schreef arucard het volgende:
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Waarom niet naar het Pentagom ipv een museum
quote:Some Cops Furious NYPD Officer Flashed Peace Sign In Photo With Occupy Wall Street Protester
The above picture, featured on the Facebook profile of someone named "Photon Frequency", is presented as an example of how police and protesters really can get along: "Much of the NYPD are really on our side. We need to stay away from negative media influence and stay supportive and respectful of their difficult job. Many of the officers I spoke to are supportive of this movement and gratefully acknowledged the peaceful efforts of the protesters." However, don't tell that to any of the cops over at Thee Rant police forum—they're pretty darn annoyed at the cop for posing with these "miscreants."
quote:If this is their reaction to a little peace sign, we can't wait to see what they think about the protester who allegedly was caught on camera defecating on a cop car.
quote:American Spectator Editor Admits to Being Agent Provocateur at D.C. Museum
It appears that one of the two in the confrontation with the security officer is Patrick Howley, Assistant Editor of The American Spectator. [See the following photograph in which Howley's Facebook Profile Photo is side-by-side with the person pictured at the Air and Space Museum]
Immediately after the incident began hitting the newswires Howley published a “Breaking News” story with The American Spectator online in which he reveals that he had consciously infiltrated the group on Friday with the intent to discredit the movement. He states that “as far as anyone knew I was part of this cause — a cause that I had infiltrated the day before in order to mock and undermine in the pages of The American Spectator — and I wasn’t giving up before I had my story.”
According to Howley’s story he joined the group in its march toward the Air and Space Museum but the protesters on the march were unwilling to be confrontational. He states “they lack the nerve to confront authority. From estimates within the protest, only ten people were pepper-sprayed, and as far as I could tell I was the only one who got inside.”
He claims that upon arrival at the Museum the group of approximately one hundred protesters split into two factions with the smaller of the two “rushing the doors,” the majority “staying behind.” Howley then admits in his piece that he snuck past the guard at the first entrance in order to “infiltrate” the building and then confronted another guard. He then “sprinted toward the door” at which time he was first hit with pepper-spray.
As he describes his next actions “I forced myself into the doors and sprinted blindly across the floor of the Air and Space Museum, drawing the attention of hundreds of stunned khaki-clad tourists (some of whom began snapping off disposable-camera portraits of me).”
Fully inside, despite the orders of the security guards that the Museum was closed to the public, Howley made his way upstairs – to the location where a banner was unfurled protesting the Museum’s exhibit of unmanned drone weapons.
“I strained to glance behind me at the dozens of protesters I was sure were backing me up, and then I got hit again, this time with a cold realization: I was the only one who had made it through the doors. As two guards pointed at me and started running, I dodged a circle of gawking old housewives and bolted upstairs.”
He then found himself “stumbling around aircraft displays with just enough vision to keep tabs on my uniformed pursuers. “The museum is now closed!” screamed one of the guards as alarms sounded. “Everyone make your way to the exits immediately!” Using my jacket to cover my face — which I could feel swelling to Elephant Man proportions — I ducked through the confused tourists and raced out the exit. “Hey, you!” shouted a female guard reaching for my arm. “Get back here!” But I was already down the steps and out of sight.”
Howley refers to the Museum as “the scene of my crime.” In light of his detailed description of his activities today the fact that they clearly document the commission of the crime of trespassing on federal property, if not the intent to incite a riot there, these admissions should not be taken lightly or ignored. As a result of Howley’s activities a large number of people were subjected to pepper-spray attacks including journalists and tourists who had nothing to do with the protest. Given the negative light that the press is attempting to spin this incident with regard to the ongoing occupations, from Wall Street and D.C. and now spreading to Main Streets across the country, the presence and admitted activities of this self-proclaimed agent provacateur should be brought to the attention of federal law enforcement officials.
It is highly likely that the events that occurred would not have taken the turn they did if it were not for Howley’s admitted adventure in an effort to discredit the Occupy movement. So before the public, the media, and officials turn their attention negatively towards the protests and the protesters there needs to be a critical eye turned on the role of the American Spectator and the role played in these events by its editorial staff. If arrests were made at this incident, and even if none were, the admissions of Howley published brazenly in the pages of his Conservative magazine and bragged about on his Facebook page should lead to an official investigation into his role and that of his employer in the events in Washington D.C. today and should be seen as at least part of the causal nexus that led to the inappropriate use of force that along with Howley negatively affected many who were innocent of any crime other than being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
Ironically Howley concludes the story of his adventure mocking the lack of courage of the protesters, who he admitted did not seek – as he did – to confront the authorities, by praising the courage of the guards who twice pepper-sprayed him.
“As I scrambled away from the scene of my crime, a police officer outside the museum gates pointed at my eyes, puffed out of his chest, and shouted: “Yeah, that’s right. That’s right.” He was proud that I had been pepper-sprayed, and, oddly, so was I. I deserved to get a face full of high-grade pepper, and the guards who sprayed me acted with more courage than I saw from any of the protesters. If you’re looking for something to commend these days in America, start with those guards.”
The admissions of Patrick Howley, published in The American Spectator for all to see, require those across the country, both the public and its officials, to take a closer and more critical look at today’s event’s in the Nation’s capital. Who was really to blame for the chaos and disruption of a Federal Museum? Who should be held responsible for those who were harmed in the melee that took place after Howley admits he defied the orders of the legal authorities and stormed into the building? And how should the story of today’s events unfold in the Nation’s media over the next several days?
Ik vermoed ten tijde van de deregualtie onder Reagan. Maar pin me er niet op vast.quote:Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 21:18 schreef Die_Hofstadtgruppe het volgende:
Wanneer is nu eigenlijk deze onzin begonnen? Wanneer is de grote productieverplaatsing naar China en het lenen op lenen op lenen begonnen? Eind jaren 70/begin jaren 80? En echt op stoom gekomen in de jaren '90?
Opstand waartegen?quote:Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 22:16 schreef Eyjafjallajoekull het volgende:
Deze gaat rond op Facebook en andere social media:
Ben benieuwd hoeveel mensen er komen opdagen.
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Het monetair systeem, het pro-corporatisme van de overheid, bail-outs van banken waardoor burgers tot twee jaar dichter bij hun dood moeten blijven werken, enz.quote:
Maar dan kunnen ze toch beter bij de overheid gaan protesteren ipv bij wallstreet/beursquote:Op maandag 10 oktober 2011 14:40 schreef Gray het volgende:
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Het monetair systeem, het pro-corporatisme van de overheid, bail-outs van banken waardoor burgers tot twee jaar dichter bij hun dood moeten blijven werken, enz.
Je bedoelt http://occupydenhaag.org/ ?quote:Op maandag 10 oktober 2011 14:42 schreef arucard het volgende:
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Maar dan kunnen ze toch beter bij de overheid gaan protesteren ipv bij wallstreet/beurs
Hangt ervan af wie nou eigenlijk de baas van wie is.quote:Op maandag 10 oktober 2011 14:42 schreef arucard het volgende:
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Maar dan kunnen ze toch beter bij de overheid gaan protesteren ipv bij wallstreet/beurs
Nou ja, de overheid is er eigenlijk voor om het volk te vertegenwoordigen, wall street is gewoon bezig met geld te verdienen. Ze zouden eigenlijk boos moeten zijn op de overheid dat ze zich om laten kopen.quote:Op maandag 10 oktober 2011 14:51 schreef Weltschmerz het volgende:
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Hangt ervan af wie nou eigenlijk de baas van wie is.
Occupy Den Haag stelt:quote:Op maandag 10 oktober 2011 14:51 schreef Weltschmerz het volgende:
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Hangt ervan af wie nou eigenlijk de baas van wie is.
Neem daarbij dat in Nederland geen (volledige) transparantie van partijgelden bestaat:quote:Een land dat staatsschulden heeft door de monopoliepositie van de banken op het drukken van geld is GEEN vrij land.
En wie zegt dat dit niet zo is ?quote:Op maandag 10 oktober 2011 15:03 schreef arucard het volgende:
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Nou ja, de overheid is er eigenlijk voor om het volk te vertegenwoordigen, wall street is gewoon bezig met geld te verdienen. Ze zouden eigenlijk boos moeten zijn op de overheid dat ze zich om laten kopen.
quote:The fact is our problem, at least our number one problem, is the corporations and the other special interest groups that are more important to our politicians than the people. The lobbyists and the money gotta get the f*** out of Washington.
http://biggovernment.com/(...)eet-jumps-the-shark/
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