Ze waren net iets te vroeg.quote:Op zaterdag 16 juli 2011 12:53 schreef Monidique het volgende:
Ik lees over honderdduizenden mensen op de been, zie video's met gigantisch veel mensen. Filmpjes waarin mensen blijven demonstreren, ook al wordt er zwaar geschoten. Die geest, die krijg je absoluut niet meer in de fles. Dit regime is ten dode opgeschreven.
Frappant is dan weer dat er een klein moment was in Iran dat zulke demonstraties er ook waren, maar die zijn effectief neergeslagen uiteindelijk. De vraag die ik dan stel, is: waarom daar wel en hier niet? Wat zou dat verschil zijn?
Het gaat denk ik om de verhouding tussen het aantal protesterende mensen en de hardheid waarmee de opstand wordt neergeslagen.quote:Op zaterdag 16 juli 2011 12:53 schreef Monidique het volgende:
Ik lees over honderdduizenden mensen op de been, zie video's met gigantisch veel mensen. Filmpjes waarin mensen blijven demonstreren, ook al wordt er zwaar geschoten. Die geest, die krijg je absoluut niet meer in de fles. Dit regime is ten dode opgeschreven.
Frappant is dan weer dat er een klein moment was in Iran dat zulke demonstraties er ook waren, maar die zijn effectief neergeslagen uiteindelijk. De vraag die ik dan stel, is: waarom daar wel en hier niet? Wat zou dat verschil zijn?
Zo, dat is sterke taalquote:Op zaterdag 16 juli 2011 14:28 schreef Monidique het volgende:
Iran heeft geen kernwapens. Syrië is niet open. Tunesië was dat ook niet. Het Westen steunde die opstand in Iran retorisch zeker wel. Je verklaring raakt kant noch wal, me dunkt.
Geen hoop op succes na meerdere tegenslagen.quote:Op zaterdag 16 juli 2011 12:53 schreef Monidique het volgende:
Ik lees over honderdduizenden mensen op de been, zie video's met gigantisch veel mensen. Filmpjes waarin mensen blijven demonstreren, ook al wordt er zwaar geschoten. Die geest, die krijg je absoluut niet meer in de fles. Dit regime is ten dode opgeschreven.
Frappant is dan weer dat er een klein moment was in Iran dat zulke demonstraties er ook waren, maar die zijn effectief neergeslagen uiteindelijk. De vraag die ik dan stel, is: waarom daar wel en hier niet? Wat zou dat verschil zijn?
Ook zijn er maar 72 doden gevallen. Niet fataal geweld is het beste geweld want doden maakt een martelaar.quote:Op zaterdag 16 juli 2011 15:01 schreef Monidique het volgende:
Het verschil is dat de demonstranten aanvankelijk erg partijpolitiekgericht waren, het waren pro-Mousavi-demonstraties en geen volkse, breedgedragen demonstraties tegen het regime fundamenteel. In Tunesië begon het tegen armoede, onrecht en uiteindelijk werd het een opstand tegen het regime. Zover is het nooit gekomen in Iran.
Onzin. In Tunesie was het direct al gericht tegen het regime. En ook in Tunesie was het niet direct een 'volkse, breedgedragen demonstratie'. Wat een geleuterquote:Op zaterdag 16 juli 2011 15:01 schreef Monidique het volgende:
Het verschil is dat de demonstranten aanvankelijk erg partijpolitiekgericht waren, het waren pro-Mousavi-demonstraties en geen volkse, breedgedragen demonstraties tegen het regime fundamenteel. In Tunesië begon het tegen armoede, onrecht en uiteindelijk werd het een opstand tegen het regime.
Maar ook in Tunesie wisten ze dat toen niet..quote:Op zaterdag 16 juli 2011 14:53 schreef Ulpianus het volgende:
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Geen hoop op succes na meerdere tegenslagen.
De demonstraties van tegenwoordig kijken naar Egypte en Tunesie en (bijna) Libie en zien dat volhouden effect heeft.
Dit wisten ze in Iran niet.
Denk ik.
Syrie is een Arabisch land en direct verbonden met wat er gebeurde en gebeurt in Tunesie, Libie (khadafi zit er eind december niet meer), Egypte en Jemen. In al deze landen zijn de presidenten in 2 maanden totaal verrast en hebben moeten wijken. Die geest van het opeisen van bepaalde rechten gaat echt niet meer in de fles. Er is een andere tijd aangebroken. De tijd dat elke burger zijn bek moet houden over alle binnenlandse zaken van corruptie tot beleid en dat slaafs ook doet uit angst voor de geheime dienst is voorbij. Men ziet de kracht van gezamenlijk de straat opgaan.quote:Op zaterdag 16 juli 2011 12:53 schreef Monidique het volgende:
Ik lees over honderdduizenden mensen op de been, zie video's met gigantisch veel mensen. Filmpjes waarin mensen blijven demonstreren, ook al wordt er zwaar geschoten. Die geest, die krijg je absoluut niet meer in de fles. Dit regime is ten dode opgeschreven.
Ik denk dat de Islamitische republiek gewoon een aanzienlijke steun heeft. Ookal wordt dat nogal eens tegengesproken in de Westerse media. De Islamitische staatsinrichting bedoel ik dan die daar steun heeft onder de gewone mensen en niet de stedelijke bovenklasse. Daarnaast zijn al tientallen jaren vele welgestelden het land ontvlucht en ook ideologisch tegenstanders van dit regime. Die overblijven zijn dus meer met het regime of hebben zich er na tientallen jaren al bij neergelegd. Men kan dus wel tegen de invulling/vorming zijn die eraan gegeven wordt of specifiek beleid (zie onrust tegen Ahmadinejad gericht paar jaar geleden maar wel pro-Mousavi die ook de islamitische inslag gewoon onderschreef) maar dat is wat anders dan tegen de hele top en alles waar zij voor staan zijn zoals dat in Syrie, Libie, Tunesie etc was. Ook heeft Iran de joker dat Israel/Amerika overal achter zit en achter de grondstoffen. Gezien Irak (en Afghanistan in mindere mate) is deze dreiging nog erg actueel en ik denk dat men in Iran hier (al dan niet terecht) zich best weleens zorgen over kan maken en meer richting het regime schuift.quote:Op zaterdag 16 juli 2011 12:53 schreef Monidique het volgende:
Frappant is dan weer dat er een klein moment was in Iran dat zulke demonstraties er ook waren, maar die zijn effectief neergeslagen uiteindelijk. De vraag die ik dan stel, is: waarom daar wel en hier niet? Wat zou dat verschil zijn?
quote:Syrië belegert oostelijke stad, 'situatie is explosief'
Syrische tanks hebben een stad in het oosten van het land omsingeld. De aanleiding was een betoging van tienduizenden bewoners van al-Bukamal tegen president Bashar al-Assad, meldden activisten vandaag.
'De situatie in al-Bukamal is explosief', meldde een inwoner. Gisteren was een burger omgekomen toen veiligheidstroepen het vuur openden op een demonstratie tegen de president.
Eerder had het Syrische leger hard opgetreden in opstandige steden in het noorden.
quote:Minstens dertig doden bij gevechten in Syrische stad Homs
Bij gevechten tussen aanhangers en tegenstanders van het Syrische regime in Homs zijn ten minste dertig doden gevallen in de afgelopen 24 uur. Dat meldt persbureau AFP.
De schermutselingen begonnen gisteravond na de moord op drie betogers, die vorige week door onbekenden ontvoerd werden. Gisteren kregen hun families de uiteengereten lichamen terug.
Vrijdag werden 32 betogers doodgeschoten bij massale antiregeringsdemonstraties in Syrië. Meer dan een miljoen mensen waren daarbij op de been.
Bij het geweld in Syrië, dat al sinds maart dit jaar aanhoudt, zijn volgens Human Right Watch meer dan 1.600 demonstranten doodgeschoten en tienduizend mensen gearresteerd.
quote:http://www.guardian.co.uk(...)dle-east-unrest-live
Syria, Libya and Middle East unrest - live updates
8.28am: Welcome to Middle East Live.
Syria
Syria appears to have witnessed one of its bloodiest weekends since the uprising began.
• In the central city of Homs more than 30 people were killed in the last 24 hours, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.
Rami Abdul-Rahman, from the Observatory, told Bloomberg:
We were able to get a list of 30 names of civilians killed in Homs, but the number is higher than that.
• The eastern city of Abu Kamal (spellings vary) has been besieged by more 1,000 troops, some backed by tanks and others flown in on helicopters, according to the New York Times.
The Syrian forces surrounded the town and appeared to be preparing for a major military operation to quell dissent there, residents said.
Al-Watan, a pro-government newspaper, reported on Sunday that the situation in Albokamal was "explosive" and that the army was "preparing to intervene."
• The raid comes after reports that around 100 soldiers defected to the opposition Abu Kamal.
Video footage from the town purported to show residents celebrating the defection of the soldiers by clambering on to tanks and chanting the Egyptian revolutionary slogan "The people and the army are one hand".
Reuters report on incident is as follows: 7-17-11 :"Some 1,000 troops and security forces backed by tanks and helicopters surrounded Albu Kamal overnight, a poor eastern border crossing with Iraq, a day after Military Intelligence agents there killed five protesters, including a 14 year old boy, residents said.
The killings drove thousands into the streets, overwhelming soldiers and secret police. Residents said around 100 Air Force Intelligence personnel and the crew of at least four armored vehicles joined the protesters.
"The protesters returned several army personnel carriers today as a sign of good will. The regime knows it will meet tough resistance if it attacks Albu Kamal, and that Iraqi tribes on the other side of the border will rush to help their brethren," said one activist in the region, who declined to be named for fear of arrest.
Another activist said: "The whole of Albu Kamal went to the streets after the killings. Several armored personnel carriers moved into the center of the town to stop them, but ended joining sides with the human wave.""
quote:Syrische burgers gaan nu ook elkaar te lijf: dertig doden in twee dagen
Minstens dertig mensen zijn afgelopen weekend omgekomen bij gevechten tussen inwoners in de Syrische stad Homs. Verschillende mensenrechtenorganisaties meldden dit aan persbureau Reuters. Het zijn de eerste berichten die naar buiten komen over gewelddadigheden tussen burgers onderling sinds het begin van de opstand tegen het regime van president Bashar al-Assad in maart.
Rami Abdelrahman, hoofd van de in Londen gevestigde mensenrechtenorganisatie Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, zei vandaag dat de onlusten tussen betogers pro en contra Assad afgelopen zatermiddag uitbraken. Aanleiding zou de vrijgave zijn van drie lichamen van pro-Assad betogers aan hun families. De drie waren vorige week ontvoerd en vermoord. De lichamen bleken te zijn ontdaan van hoofd en ledematen.
Burgeroorlog
'Minstens dertig burgers kwamen om bij vuurgevechten tussen de aanhangers van beide kampen' aldus Abdelrahman. 'De onlusten zijn een gevaarlijke ontwikkeling die de revolutie ondermijnen en in het voordeel zijn van hen die uit zijn op een burgeroorlog.'
Homs is de derde stad van het land en een crucialle locatie in de revolutionaire strijd sinds het leger er twee maanden geleden binnenviel in een poging de straatprotesten tegen Assad te smoren. Homs is een microkosmos van Syrische religieuze diversiteit met een Sunni-meerderheid die samenleeft met verschillende minderheden zoals christenen en alawieten, een stroming in de islam die Assad aanhangt.
Landelijke gebieden
De anti-Assadprotesten ontstonden in landelijke, armere gebieden met een veelal sunnitische bevolking. Maar de opstand breidde al snel uit naar de steden, waar de bevolking veel meer een mix van allerlei religies en sekten is, waardoor het risico van een burgeroorlog exponentieel toeneemt.
Inmiddels zijn volgens mensenrechtenorganisaties al meer dan 1400 burgers omgekomen sinds het begin van de onlusten.
De Syrische overheid beschuldigt buitenlandse militante groeperingen van het geweld en zegt dat er sinds maart al meer dan 500 politieagenten en militairen zijn gesneuveld.
quote:Syrian troops kill 16 people in Homs as security crackdown intensifies
Residents in city of Homs claim government forces and 'death squads' are firing indiscriminately on civilians
Spiralling violence took hold of the Syrian city of Homs on Tuesday as troops and militiamen loyal to President Bashar al-Assad killed 16 people in an apparent escalation of a security crackdown against a focal point for pro-democracy protests.
This brings the death toll in the country's third biggest and most mixed city in the past few days alone to at least 40 people, in addition to an estimated 1,500 killed since the Syrian uprising began five months ago.
The latest fatalities added to mounting concern that events in Homs, which has a population of 1.5 million, are taking on a dangerously sectarian character.
In a grimly familiar pattern, Tuesday's dead included three mourners at a funeral for 10 people who were killed by security forces on Monday, activists said.
"We could not bury the martyrs at the city's main cemetery, so we opted for a smaller cemetery near the mosque when the militiamen began firing at us from their cars," one mourner told Reuters. "We have to leave, we can't stay – it's too dangerous," another resident told the Guardian.
Bodies were taken to a mosque in the eastern Khalidiya district, which is dominated by Sunni tribes, while an adjacent neighbourhood is home to many security forces personnel from the Assad family's minority Alawi sect.
Rami Abdulrahman, director of the London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, said Homs had seen intense battles since security forces stepped up a crackdown on Monday. Fighting erupted after three regime supporters who were kidnapped last week were killed and their dismembered bodies returned to their relatives. "These clashes are a dangerous development that undermines the revolution and serves the interests of its enemies who want it to turn into a civil war," Abdulrahman said.
Another Homs resident said: "There are troops and armoured vehicles in every neighbourhood. The irregular forces with them are death squads. They have been firing indiscriminately since dawn with rifles and machine guns. No one can leave their homes."
The Syrian authorities have expelled most foreign journalists from the country, making it hard to verify either witness accounts or official statements.
Troops and tanks first entered and occupied Homs, 100 miles north of Damascus, two months ago after protests demanding freedoms and the fall of the Assad regime. But the military has failed to quell the unrest, which has spread to almost every neighbourhood.
Some residents have admitted they are now fighting back after losing relatives or having their homes raided. Many claim that pro-government gangs of Alawis from surrounding villages have been threatening people and fuelling tensions. Homs, hometown of Assad's Sunni wife Asma, has seen an influx of Alawis in recent years as the minority tightened its hold on security and other public sector jobs.
Residents in Homs and the coastal cities of Latakia, Banias and Jableh have reported Alawis being armed by the regime and armed gangs known as shabiha (ghosts) roaming the streets and helping to crush protests.
The use of these groups has increased the propensity for violent conflict and sectarianism as Syria's protests enter their fifth month. Many Homs residents have armed themselves with guns and homemade molotov cocktails after warning that the regime's crackdown could lead to wider violence.
Pro-democracy activists say they are struggling to deal with conflicting accounts of what is happening, while stressing the need to keep the uprising peaceful and non-sectarian.
Members of the network of local co-ordinating committees have claimed that sectarianism is being deliberately stoked by the regime.
Analysts warned that the violence and reports of sectarian tensions should not be overplayed while admitting that the Homs situation is potentially explosive. "It is really worrying," said one dissident in the capital. "There are growing problems. But the violence is regime-provoked and we shouldn't take this to mean there will be a civil war."
quote:Syrian regime steps up propaganda war amid bloody crackdown on protests
TV, radio and internet campaigns paint glowing picture of president Bashar al-Assad and stir up sectarian tensions
Brute force has been the main weapon of the Syrian regime as it has sought to crush growing protests, killing at least 1,500 people and torturing hundreds more. But Syrians have also been besieged by relentless propaganda.
In a week that has seen at least 40 die and escalating violence in Homs, the country's third largest city, state radio and private stations owned by regime cronies have been blaring out songs exalting Bashar al-Assad as "Abu Hafez", suggesting his son Hafez could succeed him, or anointing him president for "all eternity".
Baseball caps, T-shirts and flags adorned with the president's face are sold around Damascus. Billboards show him surrounded by pink hearts – in stark contrast to the sterner, more militarised pictures of his father, Hafez, the former president.
Television programmes show residents shopping and driving, portraying calm and order while regime supporters chant that they would shed blood for their leader.
Within weeks of the outbreak of unrest in March, posters went up around Syria warning of fitna, an Arabic word for division that has sectarian connotations.
But as Assad's use of force has failed to crush the protests, now in their fifth month, propaganda has become a key element of regime efforts to rally support.
"The propaganda is relentless," said one businessman. "The regime has hijacked the idea of national identity and is pushing divisions." Official rhetoric is sectarian and blames foreign and Islamist armed miscreants for the violence. In contrast, the protesters have been keen to portray Syrians as united and peaceful.
Such crude misinformation can be surprisingly effective in a country where there is no independent media, reporting is difficult and news comes mainly from witnesses and amateur film footage.
The regime and its opponents have become increasingly polarised, raising the spectre of clashes of the type activists say are happening in Homs, where sectarian tensions are rising amid claims that gangs from the minority Alawi sect, to which the Assads belong, have been deliberately provoked by the regime to attack protesters.
Christians and Druze have also been drawn to the cause through state propaganda. Early in the unrest protesters carried crosses and shouted anti-sectarian slogans: "Muslims, Christians, Alawis are all one." But when a sit-in was held in Homs in April the regime framed it as Salafis (extreme fundamentalists) taking over the city. State TV aired staged accounts of "armed terrorists" admitting receiving cash from foreigners and showing caches of weapons and money in mosques.
Imams report being told what to say in sermons, while a so-called "electronic army" has mounted an online campaign to fill Twitter with pro-regime messages.
But at the same time the regime has also sought to portray Assad as a reformer – with a westernised wife to boot – who is adored by his people.
Only a small minority of Syrians believe this narrative, which is contradicted by satellite channels such as al-Jazeera and material on the net. But Assad undoubtedly retains some support. "People choose to close their minds," said one young professional in the capital. "This is due to fear, but also to brainwashing and the strong idea of authority in our society."
Children are taught to exalt Assad and his father, while schoolbooks describe Syria as one of the most powerful nations on the planet. Pictures of the ruling family hang in every shop and building while many places such as sports grounds are named after members of the family, including Assad's younger brother Basil, who was being groomed for the presidency when he died in a car crash in 1994.
During Assad's first speech after the unrest began, one MP shouted: "The Arab world is too small for you, dear leader, you should rule the world!"
But propaganda can backfire. "It is all lies, lies," protested a trader in Damascus's old city, who just two months ago was blaming the unrest on Salafis.
The battle is not all one-sided. Activists had to become media-savvy to counteract the regime's domination of domestic media. They have had success – some say too much – in finding the ear of international outlets and have been accused at points of distorting information too.
A report by the International Crisis Group last week accused activists of playing down reports of sectarian tensions. "Unfortunately the propaganda could become a reality if this situation goes on too long," warns a veteran dissident.
Koerden haten het Arabisch karakter van het regime, daarom waren ze ook niet blij met de vergadering in Turkije, waar het Arabisch karakter van Syrië werd benadrukt. Ze willen vrijheid om Koerdisch te zijn, zoals de Koerden in Irak.quote:Op donderdag 21 juli 2011 18:24 schreef zuiderbuur het volgende:
Slechts drie kwart van de Syrische bevolking zou soennitisch zijn... begint er een trend zichtbaar te worden in hoe de minderheden zoals Koerden en christenen zich opstellen tegenover het regime?
quote:http://www.guardian.co.uk(...)dle-east-unrest-live
12.33pm: Today's protests in Syria are among some of the largest since the uprising began in March, activist claim. For the first time video of the demonstrations is live stream to the satellite channels al-Jazeera Arabic and al-Arabiya.
In totaal 1,2 miljoen werd er berichtquote:Op vrijdag 22 juli 2011 17:01 schreef Frikandelbroodje het volgende:
Enorme rallies in Hama en Deir ez Zor in het oosten. Volgens activisten is er in Deir ez Zor 400k op straat. Over Hama kan ik niks vinden maar de video spreekt voor zich.
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quote:Israel president Shimon Peres calls on Syria's Bashar al-Assad to resign
In news conference for Arab media, Peres voices respect for Syrian demonstrators 'fighting for peace'
The president of Israel called on Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad to resign in a message directed towards to the Arab world in his first news conference for Arab media.
Shimon Peres also voiced respect for Syrian demonstrators, who he said "are fighting for peace and who want to live like human beings".
On the peace process, Peres said Israel was "closer than ever" to peace with the Palestinians and insisted gaps between the two sides could be bridged by September, when Palestinians say they will seek a vote on statehood at the UN.
Peace talks have stalled since 2008 over issues such as borders, Palestinian refugees and Israeli settlements in the West Bank.
Peres has hosted Arab journalists before, but Tuesday's event was his first official news conference aimed at many Arabic outlets.
quote:Syrian troops storm eastern city; at least 1 dead
Associated Press= BEIRUT (AP) — Activists say Syrian troops are storming an eastern city and barraging neighborhoods with heavy machine gun fire.
An activist in the eastern city of Deir el-Zour says the attack on his hometown began Saturday afternoon and that one person was shot dead in a nearby village.
Rami Abdul-Rahman, the director of the London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, says reinforcements consisting of about 60 vehicles reached Deir el-Zour after noon.
Abdul-Rahman gave a higher death toll, saying troops shot dead three people in the nearby village of Tibni when they tried to stop advancing troops by throwing stones.
Activists say the crackdown on protesters seeking President Bashar Assad's ouster has killed more than 1,600 civilians since mid-March.
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.
BEIRUT (AP) — Syrian troops stormed a suburb of the capital Damascus and a town near the Iraqi border, killing at least five people in the latest raids as the government intensifies its crackdown on protesters ahead of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, activists said Saturday.
Activists expect anti-government demonstrations to escalate during Ramadan, which begins early next week. The raids by security forces appear to be an attempt by President Bashar Assad's regime to prevent wide-scale demonstrations when Muslims being the month of fasting from dawn to dusk.
Authorities have waged a brutal crackdown that activists say has killed more than 1,600 civilians since the protests against the Assad family's 40-year-old rule began in mid-March.
The government has sought to discredit those behind the protests by saying they are terrorists and foreign extremists, rather than true reform-seekers.
The London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said four people were killed during a raid on the Damascus suburb of Kiswah Friday night. It also said that one person was killed when troops entered the eastern border town of al-Boukamal near Iraq's border.
The observatory said the deaths in Kiswah and al-Boukamal raised Friday's death toll to 12.
Mohammed Abdullah, a spokesman for the Local Coordination Committees, which track the protests in Syria, said at least six people were killed in the Kiswah raid. He said at least 22 were killed Friday.
Ammar Qurabi, who heads the National Organization for Human Rights in Syria, said 19 people were killed on Friday, including three in Kiswah and two in al-Boukamal.
It was not clear why the numbers were different but each group is known to have its own sources throughout Syria.
Tens of thousands of protesters calling for the ouster of Assad's regime took to the streets throughout Syria Friday, urging fellow citizens who have remained on the sidelines to join them.
The observatory said Saturday that 1,888 people have been killed since the uprising began, including 1,519 civilians. It said the rest were members of the military and security forces.
The observatory is known to be more conservative about the numbers of people killed. Other groups such as Qurabi's NOHRS and the LCC put the death toll among civilian well above 1,600.
The uprising has been the most serious threat to the 40-year ruling dynasty of the Assad family.
Assad, who inherited power in 2000 after the death of his father, President Hafez Assad, has made a series of overtures to try to ease the growing outrage. He lifted the decades-old emergency laws that gave the regime a free hand to arrest people without charge, granted Syrian nationality to thousands of Kurds — a long-ostracized minority — and issued several pardons
quote:A Syrian army colonel said that he has defected with "hundreds" of soldiers and warned the regime against launching a crackdown on the eastern oil hub of Deir ez-Zor. The man, identifying himself as Colonel Riad al-Asaad, said in a telephone call to AFP news agency in Nicosia that he was speaking from inside Syria "near the Turkish border".
"I am the commander of the Syrian Free Army," he said. "We are hundreds," he added of the number of troops under his command. The claim could not be independently verified. But the caller warned the Syrian regime against carrying out any security operations in Deir ez-Zor, where activists said a massive military convoy, including tanks, deployed on Saturday.
"I warn the Syrian authorities that I will send my troops to fight with the (regular) army if they do not stop the operations in Deir ez-Zor," Al-Asaad said.
http://blogs.aljazeera.net/liveblog/syriaquote:Abdullah Al-Furati, a member of Syria's local co-ordinating committees from Deir ez-Zor, told Al Jazeera that several soldiers joined demonstrators to protect them from security forces that have been trying to storm Joura district in Deir ez-Zor province.
Security forces have shelled Qisour district in Deir ez-Zor damaging the minaret of the Khaldid Bin al-Walid mosque. The security forces have been trying to enter the area but residents have fought them off, Al-Furat said.
Je hebt NATO niet nodig voor een burgeroorlog.quote:Op zaterdag 30 juli 2011 19:15 schreef Monidique het volgende:
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Met alle respect hoor maar Iran schiet niet met tanks op burgers. De Pasdaran is zo goed georganiseerd dat ze demonstraties in de kiem kunnen smoren. Bovendien kiezen veel Iraniërs eieren voor hun geld.quote:Op zaterdag 16 juli 2011 12:53 schreef Monidique het volgende:
Ik lees over honderdduizenden mensen op de been, zie video's met gigantisch veel mensen. Filmpjes waarin mensen blijven demonstreren, ook al wordt er zwaar geschoten. Die geest, die krijg je absoluut niet meer in de fles. Dit regime is ten dode opgeschreven.
Frappant is dan weer dat er een klein moment was in Iran dat zulke demonstraties er ook waren, maar die zijn effectief neergeslagen uiteindelijk. De vraag die ik dan stel, is: waarom daar wel en hier niet? Wat zou dat verschil zijn?
http://www.guardian.co.uk(...)a-middle-east-unrestquote:3.11pm: Hours before the Baggara tribe leader, Sheikh Nawaf al-Bashir, was arrested (see 3.01pm), he told Reuters he was striving to stop armed resistance to a military assault by the Syrian army on the provincial capital of Deir Ezzor and to convince inhabitants to stick to peaceful methods, despite killings by security forces, the news agency reports.
Secret police agents arrested Bashir - who commands the loyalty of an estimated 1.2 million Baggara- in Ein Qirsh district of Damascus on Saturday afternoon, they said.
3.01pm: Sheikh Nawaf al-Bashir, the leader of the main Baggara tribe in the rebellious province of Deir Ezzor has been arrested by Syrian forces, opposition sources have told Reuters.
Bashir was a key supporter of the so-called Damascus Declaration which opposition leaders issued in 2005 to press for reform. He says he has been interrogated by the security services more than 75 times.
Iyad El-Baghdadi, on Twitter, says that another member of the Baqqara tribe, speaking on al-Jazeera Arabic, warned the government of an armed response if Bashir is not released by 5pm (3pm BST - i.e. it has just passed).
ROFL. Weet je wel waar je over praat? Damascus telt 4 miljoen inwoners, die paar duizend demonstranten zijn niks. Dream on met je daar zijn we nu...quote:Op zondag 31 juli 2011 11:53 schreef Monidique het volgende:
het waren llemaal demonstrties in kleinere steden. men zei, pas als het inDamascus groeit, dan is er wat gaande. Wel, daar zijn we nu.
quote:'Syrische tanks nemen Hama weer onder vuur'
Syrische tanks beschieten vanavond 'lukraak' woonwijken van de stad Hama. Dat meldden getuigen. Zij spraken van de hevigste beschietingen sinds het leger zondag met grof geschut de aanval op de stad inzette.
'De granaten vallen elke 10 seconden', aldus een bewoner telefonisch vanuit Hama. Op de achtergrond waren het gedreun van artillerie en explosies te horen. Over eventuele slachtoffers is nog niets bekend.
Ook eerder op de dag beschoten tanks de stad. Daarbij zouden vier doden zijn gevallen. Gisteren doodde het leger in Hama circa 100 mensen.
Al vijf maanden is een opstand gaande tegen het bewind van president Bashar al-Assad. Volgens mensenrechtenactivisten heeft de strijd al aan circa 1600 burgers het leven gekost.
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