BNW Brave New World
Samenzwering, verborgen agenda's en geheime geschiedenis. De zoektocht naar de wereld die achter de façade van alledag ligt.
Dat vraag ik me ook af.quote:Op zondag 26 augustus 2012 10:51 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:
Stel ze waren inderdaad allemaal metselaars. Wat maakt dat eigenlijk uit? Doet dat iets af aan het hele maanlanding verhaal?
Voor hetzelfde geld zaten deze mannen bij een Lion's-club of Rotary.
In dit geval bij de Vrijmetselaars.
Dat er iets mis zou zijn met vrijmetselaars is ook maar een samenzweringstheorie.quote:
Stel ze waren inderdaad allemaal metselaars. Wat maakt dat eigenlijk uit? Doet dat iets af aan het hele maanlanding verhaal?
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[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
Ik zou liever niet bij de order van skulls and bones zitten 
Maar wat weet ik nou
Maar wat weet ik nou
Volg je hart, gebruik je verstand.
Sommigen zouden er ook liever niet op stemmen, maar de keus is beperkt.quote:
Ik zou liever niet bij de order van skulls and bones zitten
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Maar wat weet ik nou
Zo is er altijd wel n gemene deler te vinden:
We must guard against the aquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex.
We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes.
Eisenhower1961.
We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes.
Eisenhower1961.
Maakt niet erg veel uit als ie vrijmetselaar was of niet.
Was wel nog 'n fake american hero.
And he doesn't look very comfortable about it either :
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Was wel nog 'n fake american hero.
And he doesn't look very comfortable about it either :
[ Bericht 68% gewijzigd door Tingo op 27-08-2012 09:54:56 ]
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Is het weer tijd het maanlanding topic te reanimeren? Dit soort dingen zonder onderbouwing roepen vind ik toch wel een beetje triest..quote:
Maakt niet erg veel uit als ie vrijmetselaar was of niet.
Was wel nog 'n fake american hero.
And he doesn't look very comfortable about it either :
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Het is toch 'n beetje teleurstellend en triest wanneer je realiseren dat veel van wat je heb geleerd en was verteld is in feit, 'n leugen.quote:
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Is het weer tijd het maanlanding topic te reanimeren? Dit soort dingen zonder onderbouwing roepen vind ik toch wel een beetje triest..
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
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Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Oh ik dacht dat NASA had alle blauwdrukken van het hele Apollo mission 'kwijtgeraakt'.quote:
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Er zijn bijv ook mensen geweest die een Apollo guidance computer na hebben gebouwd. Die kregen gewoon medewerking in de vorm van blauwdrukken, source codes etc.
Wat jammer zeg - ze moeten opnieuw beginnen om 'n nieuwe space-ship te ontwerpen.:)
Nee - ze hadden niet die technology toen - en ook niet nu.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Disney was toch 'n nazi sympathiser?quote:
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Er zijn wel wat conspiracy's over de 'moon landing'.
Er is een theorie dat de opnames van de 'moon landing' in werkelijkheid zijn gemaakt in één van de opnamestudio's van Walt Disney.
Kweet nie hoor
Ik denk dat Stanley Kubrick heeft veel van die footage gefilmed in Hollywood en Nevada desert.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Dat dacht je dus fout.quote:
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Oh ik dacht dat NASA had alle blauwdrukken van het hele Apollo mission 'kwijtgeraakt'.
Wat jammer zeg - ze moeten opnieuw beginnen om 'n nieuwe space-ship te ontwerpen.:)
Nee - ze hadden niet die technology toen - en ook niet nu.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
En de orginele banden van de maanlandingen zijn ook kwijt. NASA zit dan ook zo veel te poetsen en retoucheren.quote:
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Oh ik dacht dat NASA had alle blauwdrukken van het hele Apollo mission 'kwijtgeraakt'.
Wat jammer zeg - ze moeten opnieuw beginnen om 'n nieuwe space-ship te ontwerpen.:)
Nee - ze hadden niet die technology toen - en ook niet nu.
Everything is backwards, everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, psychiatrists destroy minds, scientists destroy truth, media destroys information, religions destroy spirituality and governments destroy freedom.
Eeuh, zoals door vele wetenschappers in diverse landen is gedaan, je kan een laser straal afvuren op de maan, en een reflectie terug ontvangen van één van de reflectors die er geplaatst zijn tijdens de maanlandingen van zowel de VS áls de Russen (hun reflectors zijn overigens door de Fransen gebouwd). Die laatsten hebben dat dan wel via onbemande voertuigen gedaan, maar goed.quote:
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Oh ik dacht dat NASA had alle blauwdrukken van het hele Apollo mission 'kwijtgeraakt'.
Wat jammer zeg - ze moeten opnieuw beginnen om 'n nieuwe space-ship te ontwerpen.:)
Nee - ze hadden niet die technology toen - en ook niet nu.
Die locaties kloppen 1 op 1 met alle documentatie tot aan 1969 terug, welke er nog wel plenty is, en dan niet alleen met de individuele reflectors, maar de sterkte van de laser-reflectie wijst ook precies uit welke grootte de reflectoren hebben ook.
Op woensdag 9 juni 2010 @ 09:07 schreef lezzer: Verder legt fruityloop uitstekend uit hoe het in het echte leven gaat.
Oh panic over ! They've found them again!quote:
What a fcking joke! LOL!!!
"As speculated a few weeks ago, NASA has found and is starting to restore the lost Apollo 11 tapes. A Briefing will be held July 16th at the Newseum in Washington to 'release greatly improved video imagery from the July 1969 live broadcast of the Apollo 11 moonwalk... The original signals were recorded on high quality slow-scan TV (SSTV) tapes. What was released to the TV networks was reduced to lower quality commercial TV standards.'"
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Dat zijn tapes, geen blauwdrukken...quote:
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Oh panic over ! They've found them again!
What a fcking joke! LOL!!!
"As speculated a few weeks ago, NASA has found and is starting to restore the lost Apollo 11 tapes. A Briefing will be held July 16th at the Newseum in Washington to 'release greatly improved video imagery from the July 1969 live broadcast of the Apollo 11 moonwalk... The original signals were recorded on high quality slow-scan TV (SSTV) tapes. What was released to the TV networks was reduced to lower quality commercial TV standards.'"
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Ja hoor! En die wereld beroemde beha fabrikant heeft magic suits gemaakt voor die astoNOTS. LOL.quote:
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Eeuh, zoals door vele wetenschappers in diverse landen is gedaan, je kan een laser straal afvuren op de maan, en een reflectie terug ontvangen van één van de reflectors die er geplaatst zijn tijdens de maanlandingen van zowel de VS áls de Russen (hun reflectors zijn overigens door de Fransen gebouwd). Die laatsten hebben dat dan wel via onbemande voertuigen gedaan, maar goed.
Die locaties kloppen 1 op 1 met alle documentatie tot aan 1969 terug, welke er nog wel plenty is, en dan niet alleen met de individuele reflectors, maar de sterkte van de laser-reflectie wijst ook precies uit welke grootte de reflectoren hebben ook.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Dat inderdaad. En dit soort foto'squote:
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Eeuh, zoals door vele wetenschappers in diverse landen is gedaan, je kan een laser straal afvuren op de maan, en een reflectie terug ontvangen van één van de reflectors die er geplaatst zijn tijdens de maanlandingen van zowel de VS áls de Russen (hun reflectors zijn overigens door de Fransen gebouwd). Die laatsten hebben dat dan wel via onbemande voertuigen gedaan, maar goed.
Die locaties kloppen 1 op 1 met alle documentatie tot aan 1969 terug, welke er nog wel plenty is, en dan niet alleen met de individuele reflectors, maar de sterkte van de laser-reflectie wijst ook precies uit welke grootte de reflectoren hebben ook.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
http://www.aulis.com/saturn_v.htm
Comments on the investigation into the Saturn V
by Dietrich von Schmausen
First of all, I am not qualified to attest to the validity of the mathematical conclusions presented in these papers, however notwithstanding all previous Apollo mission arguments both pro and con, and affording fair-minded consideration of both:
IF the conclusions reached in these papers are valid, then other events related to the Apollo 11 mission become more confounded – since a rocket was launched and a payload did achieve orbit around the Moon (as alleged by others).
AND If these calculations are correct: The astronauts would have needed to stay behind so that a (stripped down) robotic mission vehicle could be deployed to the Moon.
THEREFORE IF in fact the Saturn V was incapable of delivering the ‘full’ payload, it is conceivable that a ‘robotic’ mission would weigh less if:
1. It carried no water.
2. It carried no oxygen tanks.
3. It carried no crew.
4. It carried no spare suits.
5. It carried no food.
6. It carried no emergency supplies.
7. It carried no cabin seats.
8. It carried no golf club, hammer or feather.
9. It carried less fuel (fuel expenditure requirements for vehicle thrust to weight ratio having been decreased and no ascent fuel required for the LM).
10. It carried no cameras or film!
Basically, if anything needed by a manned mission, including the crew was eliminated, Voila! Huston, we have a lighter payload.
Furthermore, if my suppositions are wrong: it is still possible that the astronauts credited with the missions never actually went. Others may have gone in their place in order to ensure the survival of the ‘heroes’. And if this were true: if anyone actually went to the Moon, I don’t believe that they ever left the LM. Opening the LM and venturing onto the lunar surface would have presented too great an opportunity for catastrophic mission failure. A failure which might then force the reality of a Capricorn One scenario.
Consider the stark difference between the apparent carefree attitudes of the astronauts frolicking on the Moon, to the activities of Navy Salvage and Repair Divers.
The astronauts often demonstrated frivolous behavior, jumping, hopping along, singing ditties and wisecracking. They appeared to be happily tranquilized or totally unconcerned for their personal safety, when in fact any lapse in judgment or freak happenstance could result in either immediate death or injury with absolutely no hope of rescue. They did not exhibit behavior commensurate with the extreme nature of their situation. Navy Salvage and Repair Divers practice maximum discipline and show a serious attitude while working under very similar conditions. Although in this regard there was a significant difference: These divers are tethered to safety lines, the astronauts were not!
Since I believe that the lunar surface photographic records were ALL ‘Promotional Fabrications’, until I see further unequivocal evidence of a ‘real mission’ I speculate the following:
a. The entire mission record was pre-recorded during LEO ‘practice’ missions including filming the Earth from the command module by using a distant image of the Earth taped to a cabin window.
b. The LEM, sensors, laser markers and other instruments were deployed robotically. This could account for tracks ‘supposedly’ photographed by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter [LRO] and claimed to be those of the Modular Equipment Transporter.
c. Pre-recorded mission events were transmitted to Earth from a robotic package delivered to the Moon’s surface.
Conspiracy of thousands – or only a few?
How could so many people be coerced into such a grand deception? The very nature of the program allowed for ‘classified program compartmentalization’. e.g: A technician at mission control would never have had access to the launch area or any area used to ‘prep’ the astronauts, nor would any manufacturer of mission components of any category. Materials, recordings, fuel, and a myriad of logistical supplies were ferried to and fro on a daily basis without question.
All the while the general public and the majority of the mission employees all witnessed the same set of events (closed circuit television of the mission prep and launch).
When repudiating that the entire mission was staged, few have considered the part of the show where the magician leads his pretty assistant into the magic box and she slips out the back – the pre-launch activities. Also, if one were to reduce the field of witnesses to those ‘hands on’ individuals (escorting astronauts, assisting with physical pre-launch activities or collecting and disseminating final mission data to the public, then the ‘number of conspirators’ would decrease dramatically.
The average person is often limited by his or her failure to break the bonds of parental guidance. We are conditioned from birth not to challenge or dispute the proclamations of the ‘parent’. Parents were always right and ‘punished’ disobedience; to most people an employer or a minion of their government replaces the parent. Someone who has broken the parental bond however, can either challenge any would-be master, or decide to accept reward for keeping silent without guilt; those who have not broken their parental bonds will stubbornly stand by and support their current ‘parental representative’ regardless of their moral position.
Dietrich von Schmausen, July 2011
Dietrich von Schmausen was employed at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA, between March 1974 to April 1982 as a category "A" contractor.
Comments on the investigation into the Saturn V
by Dietrich von Schmausen
First of all, I am not qualified to attest to the validity of the mathematical conclusions presented in these papers, however notwithstanding all previous Apollo mission arguments both pro and con, and affording fair-minded consideration of both:
IF the conclusions reached in these papers are valid, then other events related to the Apollo 11 mission become more confounded – since a rocket was launched and a payload did achieve orbit around the Moon (as alleged by others).
AND If these calculations are correct: The astronauts would have needed to stay behind so that a (stripped down) robotic mission vehicle could be deployed to the Moon.
THEREFORE IF in fact the Saturn V was incapable of delivering the ‘full’ payload, it is conceivable that a ‘robotic’ mission would weigh less if:
1. It carried no water.
2. It carried no oxygen tanks.
3. It carried no crew.
4. It carried no spare suits.
5. It carried no food.
6. It carried no emergency supplies.
7. It carried no cabin seats.
8. It carried no golf club, hammer or feather.
9. It carried less fuel (fuel expenditure requirements for vehicle thrust to weight ratio having been decreased and no ascent fuel required for the LM).
10. It carried no cameras or film!
Basically, if anything needed by a manned mission, including the crew was eliminated, Voila! Huston, we have a lighter payload.
Furthermore, if my suppositions are wrong: it is still possible that the astronauts credited with the missions never actually went. Others may have gone in their place in order to ensure the survival of the ‘heroes’. And if this were true: if anyone actually went to the Moon, I don’t believe that they ever left the LM. Opening the LM and venturing onto the lunar surface would have presented too great an opportunity for catastrophic mission failure. A failure which might then force the reality of a Capricorn One scenario.
Consider the stark difference between the apparent carefree attitudes of the astronauts frolicking on the Moon, to the activities of Navy Salvage and Repair Divers.
The astronauts often demonstrated frivolous behavior, jumping, hopping along, singing ditties and wisecracking. They appeared to be happily tranquilized or totally unconcerned for their personal safety, when in fact any lapse in judgment or freak happenstance could result in either immediate death or injury with absolutely no hope of rescue. They did not exhibit behavior commensurate with the extreme nature of their situation. Navy Salvage and Repair Divers practice maximum discipline and show a serious attitude while working under very similar conditions. Although in this regard there was a significant difference: These divers are tethered to safety lines, the astronauts were not!
Since I believe that the lunar surface photographic records were ALL ‘Promotional Fabrications’, until I see further unequivocal evidence of a ‘real mission’ I speculate the following:
a. The entire mission record was pre-recorded during LEO ‘practice’ missions including filming the Earth from the command module by using a distant image of the Earth taped to a cabin window.
b. The LEM, sensors, laser markers and other instruments were deployed robotically. This could account for tracks ‘supposedly’ photographed by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter [LRO] and claimed to be those of the Modular Equipment Transporter.
c. Pre-recorded mission events were transmitted to Earth from a robotic package delivered to the Moon’s surface.
Conspiracy of thousands – or only a few?
How could so many people be coerced into such a grand deception? The very nature of the program allowed for ‘classified program compartmentalization’. e.g: A technician at mission control would never have had access to the launch area or any area used to ‘prep’ the astronauts, nor would any manufacturer of mission components of any category. Materials, recordings, fuel, and a myriad of logistical supplies were ferried to and fro on a daily basis without question.
All the while the general public and the majority of the mission employees all witnessed the same set of events (closed circuit television of the mission prep and launch).
When repudiating that the entire mission was staged, few have considered the part of the show where the magician leads his pretty assistant into the magic box and she slips out the back – the pre-launch activities. Also, if one were to reduce the field of witnesses to those ‘hands on’ individuals (escorting astronauts, assisting with physical pre-launch activities or collecting and disseminating final mission data to the public, then the ‘number of conspirators’ would decrease dramatically.
The average person is often limited by his or her failure to break the bonds of parental guidance. We are conditioned from birth not to challenge or dispute the proclamations of the ‘parent’. Parents were always right and ‘punished’ disobedience; to most people an employer or a minion of their government replaces the parent. Someone who has broken the parental bond however, can either challenge any would-be master, or decide to accept reward for keeping silent without guilt; those who have not broken their parental bonds will stubbornly stand by and support their current ‘parental representative’ regardless of their moral position.
Dietrich von Schmausen, July 2011
Dietrich von Schmausen was employed at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA, between March 1974 to April 1982 as a category "A" contractor.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
quote:
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Dat inderdaad. En dit soort foto's
[ afbeelding ]
Er zit meer computing power in m'n ouwe samsung mobieltje dan op die lunar module.quote:
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Dat zijn tapes, geen blauwdrukken...
Ik kan niet beslissen welke is het ergste - the fake moon landings or 911.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Hier ben ik maar gestopt met lezen..quote:
http://www.aulis.com/saturn_v.htm
Comments on the investigation into the Saturn V
by Dietrich von Schmausen
First of all, I am not qualified to attest to the validity of the mathematical conclusions presented in these papers,
Op woensdag 9 juni 2010 @ 09:07 schreef lezzer: Verder legt fruityloop uitstekend uit hoe het in het echte leven gaat.
Die kerel denkt dat ze een golf club mee hadden genomen, en dat de robotics in de 60s ver genoeg gevorderd was om alles wat ze daar gedaan hebben met robots te doen... Kennis van zaken faalt idd nogal ja.quote:
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Hier ben ik maar gestopt met lezen..
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Dat is gewoon een slecht argument. Omdat ze vroeger langzame computers hadden kunnen ze die niet gebruiken voor de dingen die ze er toen mee dedenquote:
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Er zit meer computing power in m'n ouwe samsung mobieltje dan op die lunar module.
Ik kan niet beslissen welke is het ergste - the fake moon landings or 911.
Free Assange! Hack the Planet
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
Ja dus? Misschien heb je niet meer nodig om jezelf naar de maan te navigeren? Veel dingen werden ook nog eens op aarde gemeten en gecontroleerd. Nadat ze in een baan om de aarde zaten werd die bijv. eerst nauwkeurig gemeten met transponders. De state vector van die baan werd dan in de guidance computer bijgewerkt. Daarna is het een kwestie van wanneer in welke richting en hoe hard de motor aan te zetten.quote:
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Er zit meer computing power in m'n ouwe samsung mobieltje dan op die lunar module.
Ik kan niet beslissen welke is het ergste - the fake moon landings or 911.
Oh, en alles tot aan TLI werd door de electronica van de raket gedaan, niet door de CM computer.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Niet alleen langzamer - veel veel groter maar dan metveel minder capaciteit.quote:Op dinsdag 28 augustus 2012 11:38 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
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Dat is gewoon een slecht argument. Omdat ze vroeger langzame computers hadden kunnen ze die niet gebruiken voor de dingen die ze er toen mee deden
Anyhoos - als het zo makkelijk was om aan de maan te landen (6 keren in 3 jaar) waarom zijn ze niet terug geweest?
Its unlike the americans to miss out on a great money making exercise
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
En welke great money making exercise heb je het dan over?quote:
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Niet alleen langzamer - veel veel groter maar dan metveel minder capaciteit.
Anyhoos - als het zo makkelijk was om aan de maan te landen (6 keren in 3 jaar) waarom zijn ze niet terug geweest?
Its unlike the americans to miss out on a great money making exercise
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
