abonnement Unibet Coolblue Bitvavo
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:13:34 #201
330125 Hans_van_Baalen
Zondag naar de kerk
pi_94734314
quote:
1s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 20:59 schreef MangoTree het volgende:

[..]

Omdat je denkt dat er geen anti-G zit?

Ik vermoed/hoop heel veel.
Doelde op de snipers eigenlijk. Bepaalde gebouwen zullen helemaal vol zitten met pro's en die zul je moeten bestormen, of het hele gebouw opblazen. Het laatste lijkt me niet echt iets wat de rebellen kunnen bereiken met hun wapens.
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:14:06 #202
104871 remlof
Europees federalist
pi_94734349
quote:
1s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:13 schreef Hans_van_Baalen het volgende:

[..]

Doelde op de snipers eigenlijk. Bepaalde gebouwen zullen helemaal vol zitten met pro's en die zul je moeten bestormen, of het hele gebouw opblazen. Het laatste lijkt me niet echt iets wat de rebellen kunnen bereiken met hun wapens.
Sarkozy wil vast wel even stiekem helpen :P
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:17:00 #203
19242 yavanna
Results may vary.
pi_94734551

AJE

Spencer Ackerman from Wired.com wrote that NATO is taking command of the Libya war. But the real strategy for victory over Moammar Gadhafi is found on the airwaves above Libya: communications frequencies telling his commanders to simply give up fighting. If that sounds like hope masquerading as a plan, then youre receiving the message loud and clear.

Flying over Libya is the Commando Solo, the Air Forces special operations aircraft. Its capable of hijacking radio and TV frequencies to disrupt enemy communications and broadcast the messaging that the U.S. wants. Last week, it informed Libyan naval officers that if they left port to challenge the American, French and Italian ships floating nearby, theyd be destroyed.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:19:19 #204
19242 yavanna
Results may vary.
pi_94734728
Telegraph

Further information on the British air strikes carried out earlier today. RAF Tornados destroyed two tanks and two armoured vehicles today, the Ministry of Defence said. Major General John Lorimer, Chief of Defence Staff's strategic communications officer, said:

UK Operations in support of UNSCR 1973 have continued on Monday. Earlier today, to protect civilians from Col Gadaffi's forces, RAF Tornado GR4 aircraft conducting armed reconnaissance flights over the area around Misrata fired Brimstone missiles, destroying two main battle tanks and two armoured vehicles.

[ Bericht 36% gewijzigd door yavanna op 28-03-2011 21:24:23 ]
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:27:08 #205
19242 yavanna
Results may vary.
pi_94735286
Stuk zuidelijker. Geen bericht nog over wat daar de doelen zouden zijn geweest.

Telegraph.

Western coalition air strikes hit civilian and military areas in the towns of Garyan and Mizdah, Libyan State TV has claimed quoting a military official. It said in a written news flash:

Civilian and military areas in Garyan and Mizdah were hit on Monday night by the colonial and crusader aggressors.

Garyan lies about 100 km south of Tripoli, while Mizdah is about 184 km south of the capital.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
pi_94735296
er zijn 4 b-1b 's geland op Malta
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:43:13 #207
172669 Papierversnipperaar
Cafene is ook maar een drug.
pi_94736444
Free Assange! Hack the Planet
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:44:34 #208
273703 MangoTree
I wish I had...
pi_94736539
Libyan woman who alleged rape remains hidden from world

quote:
(CNN) -- She burst into a Tripoli, Libya, hotel over the weekend, pleading with journalists to tell the world that she was raped by government troops. As security forces subdued the screaming woman and dragged her away, she warned, "If you don't see me tomorrow, then that's it."

Two days later, reporters have not seen Eman al-Obeidy.

The same government that took her away is insisting she is fine. But reporters and human rights activists have not been able to see her, and her whereabouts are unclear. Verder.
2019: The Great Awakening
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:45:48 #209
104871 remlof
Europees federalist
pi_94736628
quote:
1s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:27 schreef zoefbust het volgende:
er zijn 4 b-1b 's geland op Malta
[ afbeelding ]
Dat is vreemd, waarom zou je lange afstandsbommenwerpers zo dichtbij stationeren?
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:46:53 #210
273703 MangoTree
I wish I had...
pi_94736692
quote:
1s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 15:38 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

[..]

quote:
11s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:45 schreef remlof het volgende:

[..]

Dat is vreemd, waarom zou je lange afstandsbommenwerpers zo dichtbij stationeren?
Hillen? :')
2019: The Great Awakening
pi_94736765
quote:
11s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:45 schreef remlof het volgende:

[..]

Dat is vreemd, waarom zou je lange afstandsbommenwerpers zo dichtbij stationeren?
Die kunnen van allerlei soorten bommen meenemen
is denk ik de opvolger van de B 52
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:48:39 #212
104871 remlof
Europees federalist
pi_94736820
quote:
1s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:47 schreef zoefbust het volgende:

[..]

Die kunnen van allerlei soorten bommen meenemen
is denk ik de opvolger van de B 52
Ja is het ook, maar die dingen vliegen normaal vanuit Engeland of zelfs de VS.
pi_94736892
quote:
7s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:48 schreef remlof het volgende:

[..]

Ja is het ook, maar die dingen vliegen normaal vanuit Engeland of zelfs de VS.
Gun die piloten ook eens een normale werkdag dan:P
retour vs-libi komt wel op meer dan een acht-urige werkdag uit..
..non est vivere sed valere vita est ..
pi_94736956
quote:
7s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:48 schreef remlof het volgende:

[..]

Ja is het ook, maar die dingen vliegen normaal vanuit Engeland of zelfs de VS.
deze komen uit Ellsworth AFB US

Several B-1B Lancer bombers left Ellsworth AFB US for joining a mission in Libya. Heard callsigns BONE 34, 35, 36, 37. While Atlantic BONE 34 was the lead flight in contact with Gander and Santa Maria AOC, finally heading waypoint KOMUT 380'0N 150'0W.

At 01:08 UTC the lead B-1B bomber BONE 34 contacted Malta ACC on 130.975 MHz before going tactical.
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:51:21 #215
172669 Papierversnipperaar
Cafene is ook maar een drug.
pi_94737023
quote:
11s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:45 schreef remlof het volgende:

[..]

Dat is vreemd, waarom zou je lange afstandsbommenwerpers zo dichtbij stationeren?
Scheelt een hoop tijd en brandstof, hoor! :D
Free Assange! Hack the Planet
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
pi_94737024
ze gaan mach 1.3 geloof ik en hebben 4 F16 motoren
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:52:01 #217
104871 remlof
Europees federalist
pi_94737070
quote:
1s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:50 schreef zoefbust het volgende:

[..]

deze komen uit Ellsworth AFB US

Several B-1B Lancer bombers left Ellsworth AFB US for joining a mission in Libya. Heard callsigns BONE 34, 35, 36, 37. While Atlantic BONE 34 was the lead flight in contact with Gander and Santa Maria AOC, finally heading waypoint KOMUT 380'0N 150'0W.

At 01:08 UTC the lead B-1B bomber BONE 34 contacted Malta ACC on 130.975 MHz before going tactical.
Daar staat nergens dat ze gaan landen op Malta :P

En ow ja, ze noemen die dingen Bone, B-One, B-1 :D
pi_94737220
Nog nieuws over Sirte, of is dat nog een brug te ver. :{
Dit bericht is automatisch gegenereerd. U kunt hierop niet reageren.
pi_94737519
quote:
7s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:52 schreef remlof het volgende:

[..]

Daar staat nergens dat ze gaan landen op Malta :P

En ow ja, ze noemen die dingen Bone, B-One, B-1 :D
Dat ze gaan landen stond wel ergens (zal kijken of ik dat nog kan vinden)
maar misschien vliegen ze wel terug maar dat lijkt me niet .
Ze kunnen nl ook in de lucht bijgetankt worden
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:58:54 #220
104871 remlof
Europees federalist
pi_94737605
quote:
1s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:57 schreef zoefbust het volgende:

[..]

Dat ze gaan landen stond wel ergens (zal kijken of ik dat nog kan vinden)
maar misschien vliegen ze wel terug maar dat lijkt me niet .
Ze kunnen nl ook in de lucht bijgetankt worden
Die vliegen terug hoor, die landen alleen op Malta als ze zware averij hebben, want zelfs dan zullen ze nog proberen een NAVO basis in Itali te halen.
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 22:00:10 #221
172669 Papierversnipperaar
Cafene is ook maar een drug.
pi_94737716
quote:
1s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:53 schreef Mr_Memory het volgende:
Nog nieuws over Sirte, of is dat nog een brug te ver. :{
quote:
Libyan rebels halted in advance on Sirte

Rebel Libyan forces were halted about 50 miles from Sirte on Monday as Britain and France called on Gaddafi's supporters to desert "before it is too late".

Revolutionary forces had advanced more than 150 miles in two days, helped by coalition air strikes, breaking the stalemate at Ajdabiya and paving the way for hundreds of men to stream forward along Libya's coastal road.

But despite a Libyan rebel claim that Sirte had been captured, there was no sign on Monday that the opposition was in control of the city, which marks the boundary between the east and west of Libya and has great symbolic importance as Gaddafi's home city.

Instead, pro-Gaddafi troops in Sirte were being rallied by forces travelling east from Tripoli and other strongholds in 4x4 vehicles with light weaponry mounted on the rear, a break from the heavier artillery used so far by Gaddafi's forces, which has been picked off with relative ease by coalition air strikes.

After another wave of air strikes targeted Sirte on Sunday night and Monday morning, a joint statement was issued by David Cameron and Nicolas Sarkozy. They said Gaddafi loyalists should abandon the dictator and side with those seeking his departure.

"We call on all his followers to leave him before it is too late," the British and French prime ministers said. "We call on all Libyans who believe that Gaddafi is leading Libya into a disaster to take the initiative now to organise a transition process."

They pledged that military operations would end "only when the civilian population are safe and secure from the threat of attack".

The current regime has "completely lost its legitimacy" and Gaddafi must "go immediately", the statement said.

Cameron earlier revealed in the Commons RAF pilots had flown more than 120 sorties and completed more than 250 hours of flight as part of the action in the country.

However, the US military warned that the rebels' advance could be quickly reversed without continued coalition bombing. "The regime still vastly overmatches opposition forces militarily," General Carter F Ham, the highest-ranking American in the coalition operation, told the New York Times via email. "The regime possesses the capability to roll them back very quickly. Coalition air power is the major reason that has not happened."

His warning came as coalition forces appeared to ratchet up the number of air strikes against Gaddafi forces. Defence officials say the higher tempo is the result of more intelligence surveillance and assessments from reconnaissance aircraft but they warn aerial bombardment is getting more problematic because priority targets are increasingly in urban areas. "Obviously it is more difficult in an urban environment," officials said.

British defence officials said they believed the rules of engagement may be made much more restrictive when Nato takes responsibility for the coalition's military operations, probably by Thursday. The attacks have been criticised by Russia as "intervention in a civil war" on the side of the rebels.

On the ground, the area around Sirte was quiet after heavy bombardment from before dawn and there was no sign it had been taken by the Benghazi-based rebels advancing from the east. It is rumoured that the outskirts have been planted with landmines.

Rebels retook the important oil towns of Brega, Ras Lanuf and Ben Jawad, and continued on the open desert road towards Sirte, about 95 miles away.

A doctor treating wounded government soldiers described hundreds of deaths, terrible injuries and collapsing morale.

The Guardian advanced to the outskirts of Sirte with the rebels from Benghazi who were able to move with no opposition, simply driving along Libya's coastal road as Gaddafi's forces pulled back.

In a statement to the House of Commons, Cameron paid tribute to the "skilful and dangerous work" performed by pilots, who he said had destroyed 22 of Gaddafi's tanks, armoured vehicles and heavy guns over the weekend and flown into the desert on Monday morning to target ammunition bunkers.

The prime minister said the allied operations to protect civilians in Libya had had a "significant and beneficial effect" over the last 10 days, stopping the assault on Benghazi and helping "to create conditions in which a number of towns have been liberated from Gaddafi's onslaught".

In Sabha, in south Libya, one Libyan witness said there was a first air strike at about 2.30am followed, about two hours later, by a bigger attack on an ammunitions bunker about seven miles away from the centre.

"It hit the ammunitions storage and it kept exploding because it activated all the other bombs. I've never seen anything like that except in the movies. There was no fighting here - it was a very quiet city," he said.

"I looked out of my window and it looked like a mushroom with fire. It was a shock. There was a strike before but it was just noise and vibration. This one was worse and it kept going for more than three hours. People were running out of their houses because the windows were shattered and doors cleared out."

On Monday morning, Russia's foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, criticised the attacks on loyalist forces by coalition aircraft. "We consider that intervention by the coalition in what is essentially an internal civil war is not sanctioned by the UN security council resolution," Lavrov said.

In Tripoli, the parents of a Libyan woman who claimed she was detained and raped by Gaddafi's forces said their daughter was being held at the Libyan leader's compound.

Iman al-Obeidi entered a hotel where many foreign journalists were staying in the Libyan capital on Saturday, saying she had been raped by 15 men over two days. She was bundled into a car by Libyan officials and driven off. The Libyan government later said she had been released, but her parents told al-Jazeera TV that their daughter was still being detained.
Free Assange! Hack the Planet
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 22:00:37 #222
330125 Hans_van_Baalen
Zondag naar de kerk
pi_94737760
quote:
Huge protest for #LIBYA TMRW outside the British Foreign Ministry @ junction btwn Whitehall&King Charles st 1-3PM #feb17 RT!!
pi_94738018
quote:
7s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:58 schreef remlof het volgende:

[..]

Die vliegen terug hoor, die landen alleen op Malta als ze zware averij hebben, want zelfs dan zullen ze nog proberen een NAVO basis in Itali te halen.
ze kunnen aardig wat meenemen zo te zien

  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 22:03:47 #224
19242 yavanna
Results may vary.
pi_94738034
Interview met 'een' B-1B piloot, voor wat achtergrondinfo. :P


B-1B's zouden vanochtend boven Libie gevlogen hebben.

FMCNL: AUDIO: Mission completed! USAF Lancer B-1B bombers in Libyan airspace this morning at 01:15 UTC http://audioboo.fm/boos/314345
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 22:04:10 #225
330125 Hans_van_Baalen
Zondag naar de kerk
pi_94738063
Televisiezender schijnt al in gebruik te zijn

#AL RAYAN TV - 10930 H 27500 S/R (Nilesat)

edit: toch wel goed :P
pi_94738085
Sterker nog, ze zijn gisteren boven de Atlantische Ocean bijgetankt op weg naar het feestje:

@FMCNL: B-1B bombers BONE 34/35/37 Ellsworth AFB heading waypoint KOMUT 380'0N 150'0W, tankers form Mron expected next hours.

waypoint:
http://maps.google.com/ma(...)9.013672&ie=UTF8&z=6

Mron : In 1999, Morn became the home of the 92d Air Expeditionary Wing tasked with providing fuel to Operation Allied Force. In addition to serving as the HQ 92 AEW (serving units in France, Crete, Sicily and Spain), Morn hosted 37 tankers (KC-135 and KC-10) and 800 personnel. The 92 AEW became the largest Tanker Wing since the Vietnam War and held the distinction of being the largest tanker base during the Kosovo war.
pi_94738186
op deze site kan je al dat radio verkeer horen .

PSYOPS EC-130J STEEL 74 with message on 10405.0 kHz to Libyan Naval Officers and Sailors 27 March 2011

http://audioboo.fm/boos/3(...)t_direction=reversed
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 22:06:49 #228
19242 yavanna
Results may vary.
pi_94738277
CNN Natl Security

Pent agon- Gadhafi is preparing to dig in and defend Sirte and Zentan #Libya

Pentagon-In last 24 hours, 6 tomohawks launched at Gadhafi's command center for 32nd brigade (Gadhafi son commands this brigade)
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 22:12:47 #229
19242 yavanna
Results may vary.
pi_94738741
HMS Cumberland

US DoD Dir Joint Staff VADM Gortney will give an update on #Libya shortly at defense.gov/live

Pentagon: "Opposition within 80 miles or #Surt #Sirt, regime digging in at Surt"

Pentagon: "No confirmed reports of casualties caused by coalition"

Pentagon: "Last 24 hours, targets at Misurata, Surt, Ras Lanuf, Tripoli, Sabha. 16 cruise missiles launched"

Pentagon: "Pilots from #Belgium helping with no fly zone. UAE joining in next day or so."

Pentagon: "US role changing to one of support. USS Providence sub re-tasked elsewhere"

Pentagon: "NATO assuming command on entire mission in next few days."

Pentagon: "Not in direct support of opposition. Not co-ordinating with them."

Pentagon: "No military comms with opposition. Positive identification of target is a challenge."

Pentagon: "US, UK, Finland, Canada Belgium. Denmark have carried out sorties in last 24 hours"
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
pi_94739088
Daar gaan er weer een paar

USS Stout (DDG 55) Launches Tomahawk Missiles in Support of Operation Odyssey Dawn

pi_94739102
Thanks papiervsr. ;)

De strijd om Sirte zal echt moeilijk worden, vooral om de symbolische waarde van de stad. :{
Maar ik hou goede hoop.
Dit bericht is automatisch gegenereerd. U kunt hierop niet reageren.
pi_94739555
quote:
1s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 22:17 schreef zoefbust het volgende:
Daar gaan er weer een paar

USS Stout (DDG 55) Launches Tomahawk Missiles in Support of Operation Odyssey Dawn

Het zaait natuurlijk dood en verderf, waar ik niet zo gek van ben, maar het blijft een indrukwekkend gezicht. :@
Wat een power straalt daar van uit!
Dit bericht is automatisch gegenereerd. U kunt hierop niet reageren.
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 22:30:22 #233
330125 Hans_van_Baalen
Zondag naar de kerk
pi_94740099
199 Tomahawks afgeschoten sinds het begin, aldus vice-admiraal Gortney.
pi_94740121
Er was ook nog een Mystery flight 10 dagen geleden

While the United Nation Security Council was voting on the No-Fly-Zone for Libya, this Bombardier BD-700 tail nr N799WW was heading to Tripoli Airport International. During contact with Malta ACC the flight was scrubbed by Tipoli ACC. Therefore N799WW contacted Tripoli ACC direct on 120.900 MHz and was cleared for landing at Mitiga Airport. At 22:30 UTC this flight was airborne again from Mitiga and departed via Malta and Italy to an unknown destination...

The N799WW Mystery: CIA Linked Plane Left Libya On Eve Of Action

*
The Alex Jones Channel Alex Jones Show podcast Prison Planet TV Infowars.com Twitter Alex Jones' Facebook Infowars store

Political Scrapbook
March 25, 2011

What exactly was a CIA-linked jet doing landing in Tripoli as the UN Security Council met to approve military action? Exchanges with air traffic control recorded by amateur radio hams show a plane with registration N799WW was cleared for landing at Mitiga International Airport 11km east of Tripoli on the evening of 17 March.

The Bombardier BD-700 plane is registered to Wells Fargo Bank Northwest NA, a subsidiary of US superbank Wells Fargo & Company. What has set tongues wagging is that the same subsidiary is the trustee for a Raytheon Hawker aircraft with a tail number N168BF which was allegedly used for extraordinary rendition flights by the CIA.
At 22:30 UTC this flight was airborne again from Mitiga and departed via Malta and Italy to an unknown destination, rumoured to be Luton.



http://www.prisonplanet.c(...)n-eve-of-action.html
pi_94740271
quote:
1s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 22:30 schreef zoefbust het volgende:
Er was ook nog een Mystery flight 10 dagen geleden

While the United Nation Security Council was voting on the No-Fly-Zone for Libya, this Bombardier BD-700 tail nr N799WW was heading to Tripoli Airport International. During contact with Malta ACC the flight was scrubbed by Tipoli ACC. Therefore N799WW contacted Tripoli ACC direct on 120.900 MHz and was cleared for landing at Mitiga Airport. At 22:30 UTC this flight was airborne again from Mitiga and departed via Malta and Italy to an unknown destination...

The N799WW Mystery: CIA Linked Plane Left Libya On Eve Of Action

*
The Alex Jones Channel Alex Jones Show podcast Prison Planet TV Infowars.com Twitter Alex Jones' Facebook Infowars store

Political Scrapbook
March 25, 2011

What exactly was a CIA-linked jet doing landing in Tripoli as the UN Security Council met to approve military action? Exchanges with air traffic control recorded by amateur radio hams show a plane with registration N799WW was cleared for landing at Mitiga International Airport 11km east of Tripoli on the evening of 17 March.

The Bombardier BD-700 plane is registered to Wells Fargo Bank Northwest NA, a subsidiary of US superbank Wells Fargo & Company. What has set tongues wagging is that the same subsidiary is the trustee for a Raytheon Hawker aircraft with a tail number N168BF which was allegedly used for extraordinary rendition flights by the CIA.
At 22:30 UTC this flight was airborne again from Mitiga and departed via Malta and Italy to an unknown destination, rumoured to be Luton.

[ afbeelding ]

http://www.prisonplanet.c(...)n-eve-of-action.html
Inderdaad, wij dachten toen hier dat de CIA die journalisten had teruggebracht maar dat bleek niet zo te zijn. Er waren toch berichten dat hij bij Luton London was geland?
Life is a tragedy for those who feel, but a comedy to those who think.
- Horace Walpole
pi_94740421
Ja er staat rumoured to be London
Maar wat kwan dat vliegtuig daar doen ?
pi_94740513
quote:
Interessant verhaal
Men internet is leuk, maar een crime voor veiligheidsdiensten, niets blijft onopgemerkt. :P
Dit bericht is automatisch gegenereerd. U kunt hierop niet reageren.
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 22:36:44 #238
330125 Hans_van_Baalen
Zondag naar de kerk
pi_94740516
Ik was ook nog in de veronderstelling dat daar de journo's in zaten? die @ luton he
pi_94740623
Dit is het toestel

pi_94741120
N799WW

Bombardier, BD700 Global Express (GLEX)
cn: 9092
first contacted 2008/04/20 13:25
latest contact 2011/03/18 01:49

Aircraft activity index: [14] N799WW last seen near: DUNSTABLE, United Kingdom

http://www.libhomeradar.org/aircraft/N799WW.html

Zou de Gaddafi familie in Engeland zitten ? Die zoon zie je ook niet meer op TV

[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door zoefbust op 28-03-2011 22:51:30 ]
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 22:54:22 #241
273703 MangoTree
I wish I had...
pi_94741685
bnnNEWSLIVE: Three explosions heard in #Tajura east #Tripoli. #Libya (via @RRowleyTucson)
2 minutes ago via web

bnnNEWSLIVE: BREAKING NEWS:Western coalition forces have bombed the West Mountain area in the west of the Libyan capital Tripoli,Arab Networks
3 minutes ago via web

NohaZayed: Three explosions heard in Tajoura(East of Tripoli) & unconfirmed reports saying Bab Al Aziziya military Barracks being emptied #feb17 #libya
4 minutes ago via web
2019: The Great Awakening
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 22:54:34 #242
104871 remlof
Europees federalist
pi_94741696
quote:
1s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 22:12 schreef yavanna het volgende:
Pentagon: "US role changing to one of support. USS Providence sub re-tasked elsewhere"
De Tomahawks van de USS Providence zullen wel op zijn :')

Toen ik het las dacht ik dat het een command ship was, maar het is een nucleair aangedreven onderzeer.
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 22:56:25 #243
30509 Nightwulf
Howling lone wolf
pi_94741832
quote:
1s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 22:38 schreef zoefbust het volgende:
Dit is het toestel

[ afbeelding ]
Iemand ging de laatste MSN versie installeren
Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.
Dalai Lama
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 23:00:18 #244
273703 MangoTree
I wish I had...
pi_94742107
Coalition targets one of Gaddafi's most loyal units
quote:
28 Mar 2011 20:21 Source: reuters // Reuters

WASHINGTON, March 28 (Reuters) - The coalition enforcing a no-fly zone over Libya carried out strikes against the command headquarters of one of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's most loyal units, which has been one of the most active attacking civilians, U.S. Admiral Bill Gortney said on Monday.

Gortney, the director of the U.S. military's Joint Staff, told reporters the coalition had fired six Tomahawk cruise missiles in the past 24 hours and had carried out 178 air sorties, most of them strike-related aimed at Gaddafi's military.

He said the U.S. had no confirmed report of any civilian casualty caused by coalition forces since it began enforcing a U.N. resolution authorizing military action to protect Libyan civilians from attacks by Gaddafi's forces.

(Reporting by Missy Ryan, Editing by Sandra Maler)
2019: The Great Awakening
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 23:35:20 #245
104871 remlof
Europees federalist
pi_94743880
http://twitter.com/#!/LibyanStateTV :D

LibyanStateTV NotLibyaStateTV
We're considering just making up a town name and claiming the NATO bombed it tomorrow. #libya
10 minutes ago
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 00:21:07 #246
19242 yavanna
Results may vary.
pi_94745749
quote:
Diplomats discuss Libya's future as Italy plots Gaddafi's escape route

Rome is negotiating an African haven for the Libyan leader as international pressure mounts on him to go

Belgian Defence Minister De Crem at Araxos airbase Belgian defence minister Pieter De Crem by a Belgian F16 fighter at Araxos, Greece. Diplomatic pressure on Gaddafi to go is mounting. Photograph: Yves Herman/Reuters

Efforts appear to be under way to offer Muammar Gaddafi a way of escape from Libya, with Italy saying it is trying to organise an African haven for him, and the US signalling it will not try to stop the dictator from fleeing.

The move came as diplomatic and military pressure on Gaddafi mounts as Britain tries to assemble a global consensus demanding he surrender power while intensifying air strikes against his forces.

Britain will be hosting an international conference including the UN, Arab states, the African Union, and more than 40 foreign ministers, focused on coordinating assistance in the face of a possible humanitarian disaster, and building a unified international front in condemnation of the Gaddafi regime and in support of a Nato-led military action in Libya.

On the eve of the London conference, Italy offered to broker a ceasefire deal in Libya, involving asylum for Gaddafi in an African country. "Gaddafi must understand that it would be an act of courage to say: 'I understand that I have to go'," said the Italian foreign minister, Franco Frattini. "We hope that the African Union can find a valid proposal."

A senior American official signalled that a solution in which Gaddafi flee to a country beyond the reach of the International Criminal Court (ICC), which is investigating war crimes charges against him, would be acceptable to Washington, pointing out that Barack Obama had repeatedly called on Gaddafi to leave.

"I can't say I know of active efforts to find him a place to go, but I would not say it has been ruled out," the official said. "The ICC has said it will ready to pursue the case, but there are also the rules of the ICC," he added, pointing out that some countries do not recognise the court's jurisdiction.

British officials said they would rather see Gaddafi face trial, but if his escape was the price of a peaceful settlement they would be able to live with that.

David Cameron and Nicolas Sarkozy tried to ratchet up the pressure on Gaddafi, issuing a joint statement on the eve of the conference declaring his era over, and indicating that his lieutenants might escape prosecution if they abandoned him immediately. "We call on all his followers to leave him before it is too late," they said.

Nato officially announced it was taking over control of the air strikes campaign on Sunday, but the handover of command from the US will not happen for a few days, alliance officials said. Meanwhile, with Gaddafi forces and rebels squared for a battle around Gaddafi's birthplace of Sirte, British planes taking part in the coalition that has been conducting the campaign for the past 10 days, stepped up their bombardment.

RAF Tornados hit 22 tanks, armoured vehicles and artillery pieces over the weekend, the Ministry of Defence said. In the early hours of Monday, they struck ammunition bunkers near Subha in southern Libya, according to the Major General John Lorimer, the MoD's chief military spokesman.

This is significantly more weapons than the Tornados fired over the first week of air strikes. Defence officials say the higher tempo is the result of more intelligence surveillance and assessments from reconnaissance aircraft. But British defence officials made clear they expect more restrictive targeting rules when their planes come under the command of a Canadian Nato general, Charles Bouchard, possibly by Thursday. Bouchard said that the transition would take a few days and it is a complex operation.

Discord over the air strikes threatens to undermine the consensus the UK will attempt to construct at the Lancaster House conference. Russia denounced the air campaign, arguing it violated UN security council resolution 1973, passed earlier this month, which permitted "all necessary measures" to be used to protect civilians.

The Russian foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, said: "We consider that intervention by the coalition in what is essentially an internal civil war is not sanctioned by the UN security council resolution."

Turkey's prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, was also critical of the air campaign in a Guardian interview on Monday, and in a symbolic blow to the London conference, it emerged that Amr Moussa, the secretary general of the Arab League whose support for military action was deemed crucial by Washington and its allies would not be attending, sending a deputy instead.

The joint statement issued by Cameron and the French president was intended in part to heal a rift which opened up in recent days between the countries over the command of the air campaign and France's recognition of the Benghazi-based National Libyan Council. The rebels are not invited to the conference, but William Hague is expected to meet one of their leaders, Mahmoud Jibril.

The shadow defence secretary, Jim Murphy, will warn today that Britain should be careful about siding with the rebels. Speaking at the launch of a review Labour's defence policy, Murphy will say: "The bravery of the Libyan opposition is not in doubt. What is unclear is the motives of some, other than the removal of Gaddafi. As the opposition move westwards across Libya it is crucial that we better understand who they are and their wider ambitions."
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
pi_94745987
Waar zou die Arnold Karskens zitten die was toch ook in Tripoli ?
pi_94746331
gpdMiddleEast GPD Middle East

pffffff....zeer lange dag...op en neer naar Ras Lanuf vanuit Benghazi...850 km..
...merkwaardige situatie. We dachten vandaag Sirt binnen te rijden, maar rebellen verliezen juist weer en opnieuw terug in Ras Lanuf.
pi_94746676
Ik heb Hem niet uit vrees voor de hel noch uit liefde voor het paradijs gediend, want dan zou ik als de slechte huurling zijn geweest; ik heb hem veeleer gediend in liefde tot Hem en in verlangen naar Hem.
-Rabia Al-Basri
pi_94747157
GPD Middle East

Gisteravond stonden rebellen nog 60 km oosteljk van Sirt, paar uur geleden zag ik ze terugkeren naar kruispunt in Ras Lanuf, 150 km #Libie

...met andere woorden: opmars van rebellen is voorlopig voorbij en ze zijn al weer terrein aan het verliezen...frontlinie is een jojo

Sirt dus niet in handen van rebellen en ik niet naar nederlandse helicopter op het strand in Sirt. jammer, had me wel leuk geleken.
pi_94747359
quote:
1s.gif Op dinsdag 29 maart 2011 01:00 schreef zoefbust het volgende:

Sirt dus niet in handen van rebellen en ik niet naar nederlandse helicopter op het strand in Sirt. jammer, had me wel leuk geleken.
:s)
Ik heb Hem niet uit vrees voor de hel noch uit liefde voor het paradijs gediend, want dan zou ik als de slechte huurling zijn geweest; ik heb hem veeleer gediend in liefde tot Hem en in verlangen naar Hem.
-Rabia Al-Basri
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 01:40:55 #252
137562 rakotto
Anime, patat en video games
pi_94748135
Is GDP weer eens aan het trollen op twitter? :')
All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers. ~Franois Fnelon
pi_94748219
ja hij schrijft ook :

vanwege slechte sfeer in Ras Lanuf wilde m'n chauffeur vluchten. Op de muur van m'n hotelkamer pro-kadhafi slogan, verf was nog nat
pi_94748252
En:

quote:
gpdMiddleEast

ook eindeloos geklooi met benzine. vanaf Ajdabya richting westen is er niets meer. Overal rebellen langs de weg zonder benzine...#libie

hotel is kapot geschoten, alles geplunderd.Paar journalisten beroofd (ik niet). Voor de eerste keer vervelende ervaring met rebellen.#libie
pi_94748309
ja maar ik lees ook op twitter :

Exclusive : Libyan Rebels now controled #Harawa town , 70km east of #Sirte
pi_94748349
en dit op Al Jazeera :

Al Jazeera's Hoda Abdel Hamid, reporting from the east of Nawfaliya, said: "They [rebels] managed to get really close to Sirte but they didn't get in."

"Sirte will not be easy to take," said General Hamdi Hassi, an opposition commander from the city of Bin Jawad. "Now, because of NATO strikes on [the government's] heavy weapons, we're almost fighting with the same weapons."
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 01:56:19 #257
137562 rakotto
Anime, patat en video games
pi_94748358
Bewijst dus gewoon dat GDP een troll is.
All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers. ~Franois Fnelon
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 02:28:07 #258
2651 svann
night-hawk
pi_94748693
Vreemde ontwikkelingen rond Iman al Obeidi -of misschien wel goede.
(De vrouw die het pers-hotel binnen kwam rennen voor de onoplettenden.)

@vallan14213
@NicRobertsonCNN Wedding for Iman al Obeidi to fiance in Derna with fathers permission. Fiance Eman Salah al-Atiq from al Obeidi tribe.
Twitter about 4 hours ago via web in reply to NicRobertsonCNN

@NicRobertsonCNN Will be held today in Derna without Iman present. All invited to attend
about 4 hours ago via web

Van de Libya Alhurra chat. ( http://www.livestream.com/libya17feb )
oldmomma: islamic wedding require a few things, one to marry them, bride and groom and 4 witness and a member of her family no how can that happen if no one has seen her???

Moderator cleande de chatroom voor ik kon copy/pasten
Antwoord was dat het ook via internet/skype? kon eventueel als ze elkaar maar face to face konden zien.

[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door svann op 29-03-2011 02:46:55 ]
seek electricity                     Fok!Team Kiva micro-kredieten == Doe mee met $25! == topic
pi_94749575
quote:
Op dinsdag 29 maart 2011 01:56 schreef rakotto het volgende:
Bewijst dus gewoon dat GDP een troll is.
Ik heb hem al lang geunfollowed, hou sowieso niet van die ijdeltuiten die nooit replyen en zelf niemand volgen
٩๏̯͡๏)۶
pi_94750165
quote:
2s.gif Op dinsdag 29 maart 2011 02:28 schreef svann het volgende:
Vreemde ontwikkelingen rond Iman al Obeidi -of misschien wel goede.
(De vrouw die het pers-hotel binnen kwam rennen voor de onoplettenden.)

@vallan14213
@NicRobertsonCNN Wedding for Iman al Obeidi to fiance in Derna with fathers permission. Fiance Eman Salah al-Atiq from al Obeidi tribe.
Twitter about 4 hours ago via web in reply to NicRobertsonCNN

@NicRobertsonCNN Will be held today in Derna without Iman present. All invited to attend
about 4 hours ago via web

Van de Libya Alhurra chat. ( http://www.livestream.com/libya17feb )
oldmomma: islamic wedding require a few things, one to marry them, bride and groom and 4 witness and a member of her family no how can that happen if no one has seen her???

Moderator cleande de chatroom voor ik kon copy/pasten
Antwoord was dat het ook via internet/skype? kon eventueel als ze elkaar maar face to face konden zien.
Report: Eman Al-Obeidi gets married

http://feb17.info/news/report-eman-al-obeidi-gets-married/
pi_94751914
quote:
1s.gif Op dinsdag 29 maart 2011 08:40 schreef pippicaro het volgende:

[..]

Report: Eman Al-Obeidi gets married

http://feb17.info/news/report-eman-al-obeidi-gets-married/
goedemorgen c_/
quote:
Report: Eman Al-Obeidi gets married
Posted on March 28, 2011 by to0mz

Eman Al-Obeidis fiancee has spoken earlier on Al Jazeera saying that he was already engaged to her and that they have performed the marriage ceremony with the Shiekh. Although she was not present, and her whereabouts remain unknown, Emans fiancee and family arranged this ceremony in her honor (See note below).

He also stated that he was proud to be married to Eman. His name is Faraj Ghaithi. The families had an understanding that they will be married in the future.

Below is a video of the celebrations that took place. The women are chanting Oh Eman oh Eman, we put your picture in the square They are showing that they support her.

Flashing the cars taillights and honking the horn indicate a joyous occasion. This tradition takes place during weddings in many Arab countries.

Her fiancee, Faraj is shown at 0:22.
Al-Aan channel which interviewed Emans cousin, also called Tobruk, Emans home town to confirm that the marriage ceremony did take place.
Eman's fiancee, Faraj Ghaithi

Note:

An Islamic marriage ceremony can take place with representatives from both sides (from the bride and groom) to give their consent. It is understood that Eman has previously agreed to marry Faraj, and that there was an understanding between the two families.

Translation will be posted shortly
hoezo adhd ?
pi_94751948
NOS
quote:
07.26 uur: Staats-tv: Khamis Kadhafi leeft

De Libische staatstelevisie heeft beelden laten zien van Khamis Kadhafi, n van de zonen van de Libische leider. Er gingen geruchten dat hij was overleden. Khamis leidt een elite-eenheid van de Libische strijdkrachten. Onbevestigde berichten meldden vorige week dat een Libische luchtmachtpiloot zijn vliegtuig zou hebben laten neerstorten op een gebouw waar Khamis Kadhafi zou zijn geweest
hoezo adhd ?
pi_94751986
NOS
quote:
09.30 uur: VVD wil dat Nederland bombardementen gaat uitvoeren

Als het aan de VVD ligt gaan de Nederlandse F-16's, die ingezet worden om het wapenembrago in Libi te handhaven, ook gronddoelen bombarderen. VVD-Kamerlid Han ten Broeke:audiofragment
hoezo adhd ?
pi_94752304
quote:
1s.gif Op dinsdag 29 maart 2011 10:09 schreef doeterniettoezegiktoch het volgende:

[..]

goedemorgen c_/


[..]

AJE
quote:
8:52am

The story of Eman Al Obeidi is fast becoming a rallying cry for Libya's women.

After Obeidi pled with journalists to tell her story of rape and abuse at the regime's hands, spokesman Moussa Ibrahim claimed Obeidi - a lawyer - was actually a prostitute. But it seems very few are buying it.

"We will never leave you alone, Eman, we will sacrifice our lives just for you and we're all, old and young, supporting you," said one woman at a protest.
zijn de geruchten van prostitutie de reden dat ze nu zo snel die trouwerij regelen ?
hoezo adhd ?
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 10:22:14 #265
19242 yavanna
Results may vary.
pi_94752315
'Morning. c_/

Intresting bruiloft. Hopelijk krijgen ze nog de kans om daadwerkelijk als man en vrouw samen te leven. O+

Aanvulling op het bericht van gisteren, Gadaffi zou support zoeken voor een veilig vertrek.

Telegraph

Malta-based journalist Karl Stagno-Navarra claims on Twitter that the Libyan foreign minister is negotiating an "easy exit" for Gaddafi with Italian delegates in Tunisia:

Twitter #Libya foreign minister Mousa Kousa is in Tunisia and is talking to the Italians from Djerba reportedly neg #Gaddafi easy exit

En :

Telegraph

Col Gaddafi has called on international powers to end the "barbaric offensive" in Libya, in a letter addressed to the summit in London today.

BBC

In his letter Col Gaddafi accuses the coalition forces of committing genocide. "It seems that you in Europe and America don't realise the hellish, barbaric offensive which compares... to Hitler's campaigns when he invaded Europe and bombed Britain," he writes, according to AFP.

quote:
Libya: Barack Obama speech in full

Here is the full text of Barack Obama's address on military operations in Libya delivered at the National Defense University:

Good evening. Tonight, I'd like to update the American people on the international effort that we have led in Libya - what we have done, what we plan to do, and why this matters to us.

I want to begin by paying tribute to our men and women in uniform who, once again, have acted with courage, professionalism and patriotism. They have moved with incredible speed and strength. Because of them and our dedicated diplomats, a coalition has been forged and countless lives have been saved. Meanwhile, as we speak, our troops are supporting our ally Japan, leaving Iraq to its people, stopping the Taliban's momentum in Afghanistan, and going after al-Qaeda around the globe. As Commander-in-Chief, I am grateful to our Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines, Coast Guardsmen, and their families, as are all Americans.

For generations, the United States of America has played a unique role as an anchor of global security and advocate for human freedom. Mindful of the risks and costs of military action, we are naturally reluctant to use force to solve the world's many challenges. But when our interests and values are at stake, we have a responsibility to act. That is what happened in Libya over the course of these last six weeks.

Libya sits directly between Tunisia and Egypt - two nations that inspired the world when their people rose up to take control of their own destiny. For more than four decades, the Libyan people have been ruled by a tyrant - Moammar Gaddafi. He has denied his people freedom, exploited their wealth, murdered opponents at home and abroad, and terrorized innocent people around the world - including Americans who were killed by Libyan agents.

Last month, Gaddafi's grip of fear appeared to give way to the promise of freedom. In cities and towns across the country, Libyans took to the streets to claim their basic human rights. As one Libyan said, ``For the first time we finally have hope that our nightmare of 40 years will soon be over.''

Meer via titel link.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 10:25:08 #266
19242 yavanna
Results may vary.
pi_94752424

AJE

8:52am

The story of Eman Al Obeidi is fast becoming a rallying cry for Libya's women.

After Obeidi pled with journalists to tell her story of rape and abuse at the regime's hands, spokesman Moussa Ibrahim claimed Obeidi - a lawyer - was actually a prostitute. But it seems very few are buying it.

"We will never leave you alone, Eman, we will sacrifice our lives just for you and we're all, old and young, supporting you," said one woman at a protest.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 10:27:58 #267
19242 yavanna
Results may vary.
pi_94752528
Wat een rare slechte beelden. Een kort interview met b.v. een recente krant erbij zou overtuigend zijn, dit niet echt.

Khamis Gaddafi spotted on Libyan TV

Libyan State TV broadcast what they claim is live footage of Colonel Gaddafi's son, Khamis
Gaddafi.

n the video a man bearing a striking resemblance to Gaddafi's son is seen parading through his father's compound in Tripoli.

The footage appears to be an attempt to quash rumours of Khamis' death at the hands of a suicidal Libyan jet pilot who it is claimed flew his plane into the family compound.

Khamis is the commander of the 32nd brigade thought to include the most highly trained soldiers in Libya.

~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
pi_94752652
quote:
1s.gif Op dinsdag 29 maart 2011 10:27 schreef yavanna het volgende:
Wat een rare slechte beelden. Een kort interview met b.v. een recente krant erbij zou overtuigend zijn, dit niet echt.
juist!!
quote:
Khamis Gaddafi spotted on Libyan TV

Libyan State TV broadcast what they claim is live footage of Colonel Gaddafi's son, Khamis
Gaddafi.

n the video a man bearing a striking resemblance to Gaddafi's son is seen parading through his father's compound in Tripoli.

The footage appears to be an attempt to quash rumours of Khamis' death at the hands of a suicidal Libyan jet pilot who it is claimed flew his plane into the family compound.

Khamis is the commander of the 32nd brigade thought to include the most highly trained soldiers in Libya.

[ afbeelding ]
thnx ( ik had alleen nog het stukje van NOS gezien )

l is het Khamis op de beelden , wie weet van wanneer die beelden zijn .....
hoezo adhd ?
pi_94753376
quote:
De Amerikaanse president Barack Obama heeft het besluit om in te grijpen in Libi verdedigd. ,,Als we nog een dag hadden gewacht, zou Benghazi een bloedbad hebben meegemaakt dat door de regio zou weerklinken en het geweten van de wereld zou hebben besmeurd'', zei Obama maandagavond (lokale tijd) in een lange televisietoespraak.

Met dat ,,vooruitzicht op geweld van een weerzinwekkende omvang'' moest Amerika ingrijpen, aldus de president.

Het ingrijpen is echter niet alleen moreel juist, maar ook in het belang van de Verenigde Staten, stelde Obama. Een bloedbad onder de opstandelingen zou een enorme vluchtelingenstroom op gang hebben gebracht en de hervormingen in de buurlanden Egypte en Tunesi in gevaar brengen.

[...]

Obama benadrukte dat de val van Kaddafi niet het doel van de internationale militaire aanval is, ook al zijn ,,Libi en de rest van de wereld beter af zonder Kaddafi aan de macht''. Door 'regime change' zou de internationale coalitie echter uiteen kunnen vallen, aldus Obama. De president verwees ook naar Irak, waar duizenden mensen de laatste jaren zijn omgekomen en de wederopbouw honderden miljarden dollars heeft gekost. ,,We kunnen het ons niet veroorloven om dat te herhalen in Libi'', zei Obama.

[...]

De Republikeinen reageerden kritisch op Obama's toespraak. ,,Negen dagen na het begin van deze militaire interventie hebben Amerikanen nog altijd geen antwoord op de fundamentele vraag: hoe ziet succes in Libi eruit?'', zei een woordvoerder van de Republikeinse leider John Boehner tegen nieuwszender CNN. Volgens de zegsman hebben Amerikanen ,,helaas lang gewacht op weinig nieuwe antwoorden''. (ANP)
Iemand hier het antwoord...?
pi_94754037
Libya feb17
Translated: Video statement of defected Colonels and Officers in Al Kufrah District
Translation:

News anchor: A number of Army officers in Al Kufrah have announced that they have joined the 17th of February revolution and the forming of a local military council.

First speaker: I am Colonel Suleiman Hamid Hassan Az-Zwai from Al Kufrah defense zone. Firstly: I pray for mercy over the souls of our righteous martyrs. Secondly: I announce that I have joined the 17th of February Revolution, the Transitional National Council. I also want to announce that a local military council has been formed in the area, and God is the source of success.

Second speaker: I am Colonel Mohammed Idris Al Forjani Az-Zwai, Assistant Commissioner of the Military Police in Al Kufrah. I announce that I have joined glorious revolution of 17th February. The revolution of the youth. I also place all my capabilities at the disposal of the Military Council (in Benghazi). I also call on all officers and soldiers to join the youths glorious revolution against the regime of the tyrant.
hoezo adhd ?
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 11:13:03 #271
19242 yavanna
Results may vary.
pi_94754070
quote:
1s.gif Op dinsdag 29 maart 2011 10:31 schreef doeterniettoezegiktoch het volgende:

[..]

juist!!

[..]

thnx ( ik had alleen nog het stukje van NOS gezien )

l is het Khamis op de beelden , wie weet van wanneer die beelden zijn .....
Ik blijf mij verbazen dat ze keer op keer zulke crap in elkaar frutsen. :') terwijl ze zoveel geld, midellen en 'knappe' koppen tot hun beschikking hebben.

Then again, met de met harde hand heersende dictatuur hebben ze vast nooit geinvesteerd in goede PR mensen.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
pi_94754536
quote:
NOS 10.10 uur: Ook vandaag weer Nederlandse actie

Nederland zet vandaag weer 4 F-16's en het KDC-10 tankvliegtuig in voor patrouilles boven de Middellandse Zee voor de Libische kust ter controle van het wapenembargo. Dat zei luitenant-kolonel Johan van Deventer, commandant van de Nederlandse F-16's, in het Radio 1 Journaal. "We kijken of er in het gebied verdachte boten en/of verdachte vliegtuigen zijn", zei Van Deventer. Hij kon niet zeggen of de Nederlanders al overtredingen van het wapenembargo hebben gezien.
audio fragment ; Commandant F-16's over eerste actie in Libi
hoezo adhd ?
pi_94754545
Ik weet niet of het al is langsgekomen maar iets zegt mij dat er ook binnenkort toch grondtroepen in Libie zullen landen :Y (engelse para's?) want ik vrees dat de rebellen te weinig zware wapens hebben. :{
Yvonne schreef op maandag 31 oktober 2011 @
13:59:43 in DEF SC #282 aan AchJa & Co
Vanaf hier en nu stopt het in DEF n op FOK!
Ik wil hier een normale SC zonder gebitch!
pi_94754775
quote:
buitenlandnieuws
Amerikaanse gezant naar Benghazi

(Novum/AP) - De Verenigde Staten sturen binnenkort een gezant naar de Libische opstandelingen in Benghazi, heeft een hooggeplaatste Amerikaanse regeringsfunctionaris dinsdag gezegd.

De Amerikaanse diplomaat Chris Stevens moet betere banden smeden met de groepen die in verzet zijn gekomen tegen de Libische leider Moammar Gadhafi. Het besluit houdt niet in dat de VS de oppositie ook formeel erkennen.

De Amerikaanse functionaris bedong anonimiteit. Minister van buitenlandse zaken Hillary Clinton heeft dinsdag in Londen een onderhoud met een gezant van de Libische oppositie, Mahmoud Jibril. Zij is in Londen voor een conferentie van veertig landen over de toekomst van Libi.
hoezo adhd ?
pi_94754899
quote:
1s.gif Op dinsdag 29 maart 2011 11:31 schreef doeterniettoezegiktoch het volgende:

[..]

quote:
Grote internationale conferentie over Libi
Uitgegeven:
29 maart 2011 06:45
Laatst gewijzigd: 29 maart 2011 07:44

WASHINGTON - Ministers uit meer dan 35 landen wonen dinsdag in de Britse hoofdstad Londen een grote internationale conferentie bij, waar wordt gesproken over de toekomst van Libi na de val van Muammar Kaddafi. Ook een Nederlandse delegatie zal erbij zijn.

De Amerikaanse minister van Buitenlandse Zaken Hillary Clinton, die zelf ook aanwezig zal zijn, zei dat de bijeenkomst tevens gaat over de rol die diplomatie kan spelen om Kaddafi weg te krijgen.

De luchtaanvallen door de internationale coalitie zijn officieel niet bedoeld om de dictator te verdrijven.

De leiders van Frankrijk, Groot-Brittanni, de Verenigde Staten en Duitsland spraken maandag al telefonisch met elkaar over de huidige situatie in Libi en de conferentie van dinsdag.
hoezo adhd ?
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 11:45:10 #276
330125 Hans_van_Baalen
Zondag naar de kerk
pi_94755293
quote:
1s.gif Op dinsdag 29 maart 2011 01:00 schreef zoefbust het volgende:
GPD Middle East

Gisteravond stonden rebellen nog 60 km oosteljk van Sirt, paar uur geleden zag ik ze terugkeren naar kruispunt in Ras Lanuf, 150 km #Libie

...met andere woorden: opmars van rebellen is voorlopig voorbij en ze zijn al weer terrein aan het verliezen...frontlinie is een jojo

Sirt dus niet in handen van rebellen en ik niet naar nederlandse helicopter op het strand in Sirt. jammer, had me wel leuk geleken.
Het zal de komende tijd voetsoldaten vs voetsoldaten worden lijkt het wel. Met de coalitie die elk voertuig en vliegtuig uit de lucht haalt, is dit de enige mogelijkheid voor G om verzet te bieden tegen de rebellen zonder de NAVO op z'n nek te halen.

Punt is wel dat de militairen van G stukken beter getraind zullen zijn.
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 11:48:08 #277
330125 Hans_van_Baalen
Zondag naar de kerk
pi_94755396
quote:
1s.gif Op dinsdag 29 maart 2011 10:27 schreef yavanna het volgende:
Wat een rare slechte beelden. Een kort interview met b.v. een recente krant erbij zou overtuigend zijn, dit niet echt.

Khamis Gaddafi spotted on Libyan TV

Libyan State TV broadcast what they claim is live footage of Colonel Gaddafi's son, Khamis
Gaddafi.

n the video a man bearing a striking resemblance to Gaddafi's son is seen parading through his father's compound in Tripoli.

The footage appears to be an attempt to quash rumours of Khamis' death at the hands of a suicidal Libyan jet pilot who it is claimed flew his plane into the family compound.

Khamis is the commander of the 32nd brigade thought to include the most highly trained soldiers in Libya.

[ afbeelding ]
Ben benieuwd hoe lang het duurt voordat de rebellen daar ineens met USA Made guns en raketwerpers lopen.
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 11:49:04 #278
262 Re
Kiss & Swallow
pi_94755431
quote:
1s.gif Op dinsdag 29 maart 2011 11:45 schreef Hans_van_Baalen het volgende:

Punt is wel dat de militairen van G stukken beter getraind zullen zijn.
totdat het beloofde geld op is natuurlijk

maar grootste probleem lijkt me de benzine dus die zal eerst uit benzaghi moeten komen denk ik?
04-08-11, 02-02-12, 20-06-14, 13-08-15
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 11:52:14 #279
137562 rakotto
Anime, patat en video games
pi_94755541
Ik denk dat Seif dood is. :Y En Khamis ook, ik denk niet dat dat live beelden waren.
All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers. ~Franois Fnelon
pi_94755600
@BreakingNews U.S. aircraft attack 3 Libyan vessels after they open fire 'indiscriminately' on merchant ships in Misrata port - U.S. official via NBC

Was dat niet onze taak? ;-).
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 11:54:47 #281
330125 Hans_van_Baalen
Zondag naar de kerk
pi_94755635
#Reuters
Libi Amerikaanse strijdkrachten hebben gisteren drie Libische schepen aangevallen, waaronder een patrouilleboot van de kustwacht. De schepen zouden zijn uitgeschakeld omdat ze willekeurig het vuur openden op koopvaardijschepen in de haven van Misurata. De schepen waren ten tijde van de aanval aangemeerd, aldus een woordvoerder van het Amerikaanse leger.
11:45
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 11:58:47 #282
172669 Papierversnipperaar
Cafene is ook maar een drug.
pi_94755785
Free Assange! Hack the Planet
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 11:59:27 #283
330125 Hans_van_Baalen
Zondag naar de kerk
pi_94755812
quote:
3s.gif Op dinsdag 29 maart 2011 11:49 schreef Re het volgende:

[..]

totdat het beloofde geld op is natuurlijk

maar grootste probleem lijkt me de benzine dus die zal eerst uit benzaghi moeten komen denk ik?
Denk dat hij genoeg geld en waardevol materiaal heeft, maar het de vraag zal de vraag zijn of dat toereikend voor hem is. 99% van zijn buitenlandse operaties en bedrijven kan hij wel vergeten. Hij heeft nog wel meer dan een miljard aan goud in z'n kluis als ik me de berichtgeving goed herinner.

Daarnaast zal het merendeel het niet alleen voor het geld doen, maar ook om hun voorkeurspositie te verdedigen.
pi_94755916
Nu wordt Eman Al-Obeidi dus zelf aangeklaagd :')

quote:
The Libyan woman who claimed she was gang-raped is being prosecuted for "blackening the men's names".
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 12:05:28 #285
330125 Hans_van_Baalen
Zondag naar de kerk
pi_94756021
quote:
1s.gif Op dinsdag 29 maart 2011 11:52 schreef rakotto het volgende:
Ik denk dat Seif dood is. :Y En Khamis ook, ik denk niet dat dat live beelden waren.
Of het is zo met opzet, en Khamis voert binnenkort een verassingsaanval uit.
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 12:28:19 #286
19242 yavanna
Results may vary.
pi_94756757
Tom Rayner, SkyNews

Press conference in Tripoli now with 4 'NGO and activist' observers - not clear which groups they represent

One has already accused western media of lying and being 'an arm of the US govt' -cited 4 airstrike scenes, but admits didn't go to see them

The activist who thinks we are liars now says his information is trustworthy because it comes from 'libyan artists'

Three speeches from the 'independent observers' so far - all have expressed strong anti-war, anti-west sentiments

One of them is a French woman Maria Poummier from Association Entre La Plume et l'Enclave - says she's here to 'campaign & observe'

Another is thought to be Dieudonne M'Bala M'Bala - a controversial French comedian and activist

Moussa Ibrahim now saying he doesn't know whether #EmanAlObeidi is released at the moment -seemed to imply there are now charges against her

Moussa Ibrahim on #Eman: "it seems the accuser has become the accused...but I can't talk about the details of the case"
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 12:36:32 #287
19242 yavanna
Results may vary.
pi_94757004
BBC

The BBC's John Simpson in Tripoli says he has spoken to a source close to Col Gaddafi and asked him if the Libyan leader would relinquish power easily: "He [that person] reinforced all these views that he [Col Gaddafi] isn't going to go anywhere unless he is absolutely forced out... To offer him a bolt-hole is something he would not be interested in - unless he was clear there was no alternative."
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
pi_94760044
Onduidelijkheid over Eman al-Obeidi
T.O

mrt 29 |11:33

Het lot van Eman al-Obeidi, de vrouw die afgelopen weekend tijdens een persconferentie in een hotel uit de doeken deed dat ze meerdere malen was verkracht door mensen van kolonel Kadhafi, is ongewis. Kadhafi's woordvoerder zegt dat ze veilig thuis is bij haar familie, maar volgens haar moeder is dat niet waar. Ze zei in een interview met al-Jazeera dat ze niet weet waar haar dochter is. Ze vertelde ook dat ze om 03.00 uur 's nachts is gebeld vanuit het hoofdkantoor van Kadhafi. "Ze zeiden: 'Als je dochter het verhaal dat ze is verkracht intrekt, mag ze naar huis'. Ze kon alles krijgen, geld een huis, alles, maar ze moest het verhaal intrekken."

http://www.nieuwsmening-magazine.nl/index.php/home
pi_94760307
Alle boeven op een rijtje:

The problem is not the occupation, but how people deal with it.
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 14:10:32 #290
19242 yavanna
Results may vary.
pi_94760539
ksnavarra Karl Stagno-Navarra

#Libya foreign Minister Mousa Kousa spotted with family, luggages in #Tunisia
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 14:13:08 #291
19242 yavanna
Results may vary.
pi_94760656
quote:
1s.gif Op dinsdag 29 maart 2011 13:55 schreef zoefbust het volgende:
Onduidelijkheid over Eman al-Obeidi
T.O

mrt 29 |11:33

Het lot van Eman al-Obeidi, de vrouw die afgelopen weekend tijdens een persconferentie in een hotel uit de doeken deed dat ze meerdere malen was verkracht door mensen van kolonel Kadhafi, is ongewis. Kadhafi's woordvoerder zegt dat ze veilig thuis is bij haar familie, maar volgens haar moeder is dat niet waar. Ze zei in een interview met al-Jazeera dat ze niet weet waar haar dochter is. Ze vertelde ook dat ze om 03.00 uur 's nachts is gebeld vanuit het hoofdkantoor van Kadhafi. "Ze zeiden: 'Als je dochter het verhaal dat ze is verkracht intrekt, mag ze naar huis'. Ze kon alles krijgen, geld een huis, alles, maar ze moest het verhaal intrekken."

http://www.nieuwsmening-magazine.nl/index.php/home
Waarschijnlijk een wat ouder bericht, daar inmiddels door een woordvoerder is gezegd dat Eman nu beschuldigd wordt van 'zwartmakerij' . :')
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 14:17:11 #292
19242 yavanna
Results may vary.
pi_94760785
Misrata, wat een hel voor de inwoners.

Telegraph
Gaddafi's forces have killed at least 142 people and wounded more than 1,400 others since the onslaught on Misrata began on March 18, a doctor at the city's hospital told AFP.

Tanks and troops loyal to Gaddafi have swept through Misrata, firing shells as they attacked the city, a rebel spokesman has said.

It came as rebels in Benghazi claimed a hospital ship is due to dock in Misrata, escorted by Nato after intense fighting with Gaddafi's forces.

BBC


Further west, ships from the US Sixth Fleet attacked three Libyan ships that had been firing indiscriminately at merchant ships in the port of Misrata, 210km east of Tripoli, US officials said. Tanks and troops loyal to Col Gaddafi had swept through the city firing shells as they attacked, AFP reported rebels as saying.

SultanAlQassemi
Al Jazeera: AFP: Libyan revolutionaries say that Gaddafi forces are heading towards Misurata, fear of massacre. #Libya
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 14:22:02 #293
172669 Papierversnipperaar
Cafene is ook maar een drug.
pi_94760948
quote:
US gunships mark change of tactic in Libya air strikes



The US has been giving the impression that it has backed away from the bombing campaign in Libya. It has now emerged that while the initial intensity of the high-altitude air strikes and cruise missile attacks has diminished, the US has not let up. In a dramatic and significant escalation of the assault on Gaddafi's forces, the US has deployed low-flying, heavily-armed aircraft against Libyan armour.

It is a deployment far removed from the initial concept of a "no-fly" zone.

The Pentagon has revealed that AC-130 gunships and A10 tankbusters, of the kind used in Iraq and Afghanistan, have been deployed in Libya. "We have employed A10s and AC-130s over the weekend," Vice-Admiral Bill Gortney, said.

The aircraft are better suited than high-flying fighter bombers to attack targets in built-up areas without so much risk of civilian casualties, defence officials say.

However, their sheer firepower can lead to civilian deaths as their attacks on the Iraqi city of Falluja after the 2003 invasion of Iraq demonstrated.

The AC-130 gunship is a heavily modified Hercules transport plane armed with 20mm, 40mm and 105mm cannons. The A10 "thunderbolts" conducts close-range attacks, notably against tanks and armoured vehicles. It is equipped with a multi-barrelled 30mm cannon which can fire a devastating almost 4,000 rounds a minute.

The use of the close air support aircraft has fuelled claims that the US is actively co-ordinating tactics with the rebels. Aware of the controversy any such admission could unleash, Gortney, director of the Pentagon's Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the US actions were in support of the UN-backed resolutions to protect Libyan civilians. "We're not in direct support of the opposition, that's not part of our mandate, and we're not co-ordinating with the opposition," he added. He described the US strategy as one of continuing "to pressure them where we think it's going to give us the best effect".

The AC-130s, flying from a base in Italy, were requested by General Carter Ham, the senior US general overseeing the operation, and are likely to continue flying over Libya in the coming days as allied forces attempt to increase the pressure on Gaddafi's ground forces, the Washington Post reported.

The RAF, which does not possess these low-flying US warplanes, has deployed Tornados firing laser or radar-guided weapons such as the Brimstone missile against Libyan armour. It has also fired Storm Shadow cruise weapons, costing an estimated 800,000 each, against ammunition bunkers in the Sabha area in the southern Libya desert.
Ook A-10's aktief dus.



[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door Papierversnipperaar op 29-03-2011 14:33:39 ]
Free Assange! Hack the Planet
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 14:53:50 #294
172669 Papierversnipperaar
Cafene is ook maar een drug.
pi_94762219
The Guardian:
quote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk(...)-crisis-live-updates
1.44pm: Ian Black, in Tripoli, writes that Libyan officials "insist, improbably, that there are no shortages in government-controlled areas". However Ian says that is "certainly not true of Misrata, the country's third city, where small numbers of rebels continue to hold out against Gaddafi loyalists and there are reports of a deepening humanitarian crisis, including dwindling stocks of drugs and medical equipment".

As well as Misrata, problems are evidently mounting elsewhere.

The most visible sign of trouble is the long queues at petrol stations. On the 460 kilometres journey from Tripoli to Gaddafi's hometown of Sirte on Monday every petrol station was either closed or had queues stretching hundreds of yards. Traffic jams in the capital are caused by motorists waiting to fill up their tanks.

The problem is a combination of drastically reduced production, poor distribution and panic buying. Oil production is down to about one quarter of pre-crisis levels partly because of the flight of foreign workers. The refinery at Zawiya west of Tripoli was damaged in the fighting and while the one at Ras Lanuf in the east is in rebel hands. Italian tankers bringing refined petroleum have reportedly been turned back.

"Petrol is very cheap," said Ahmed, a twenty-something taxi driver, negotiating the traffic outside Gaddafi's Bab al-Aziziya barracks. "But now the shortage is getting really serious." Libyans also say they are short of cooking gas.

The head of the Libyan ports authority complained this week that some imports of food and medicine have been stopped even though they are not subject to an embargo by the UN security council.

Another highly visible problem is bread, with queues everywhere. The issue here is one of labour, with the low paid Egyptians and Tunisians who do many menial jobs spurned by Libyans having fled the country when the uprising began in the third week of February. There is some evidence of shortages of cooking oil and sugar.

Other sectors have been similarly affected by the exit of foreign labourers. The port in Sirte, Muammar Gaddafi's home town, is jammed with fishing boats which have been idle since their Egyptian and Tunisian crews fled
Free Assange! Hack the Planet
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 14:58:34 #295
19242 yavanna
Results may vary.
pi_94762393
AJE

The Libyan opposition's Transitional National Council has released a two-page political platform ( PDF ), called "A Vision of a Democratic Libya."

Among other principles, the document calls for a national constitution that separates government into executive, legislative and judicial branches, a guarantee of the freedom of expression, and "a state that draws strength from our strong religious beliefs in peace, truth, justice and equality."
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
pi_94762755
Ik vind die opmars naar tripoli wel erg lang duren. Kunnen we niet wat olietankers sturen om de gehele rebellenvlood van benzine te voorzien ( en geef ze dan toch ook maar wat knappe wapens). Elke minuut oorlog is een minuut teveel
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 15:18:10 #297
19242 yavanna
Results may vary.
pi_94763032
clancycnn

The city of Misrata, Libya, is reported under seige with pro-Gadhafi forces moving in from several fronts. Coalition warplanes circling.

Libyan official sources charge the coalition jets are bombing Misrata, but eyewitnesses dispute that...charge Gadhafi forces "evicting" ppl

Misrata is isolated, surrounded by territory controlled by pro-Gadhafi forces.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
pi_94763178
quote:
1s.gif Op dinsdag 29 maart 2011 14:03 schreef waht het volgende:
Alle boeven op een rijtje:

[ afbeelding ]
Dat vermoeden had ik al dat die jongste zoon er geen zin meer in had. Groot gelijk. Studeerde in Mnchen en daar met de noorderzon vertrokken richting Parijs.
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 15:33:42 #299
19242 yavanna
Results may vary.
pi_94763610
Meeting in Londen in begonnen, meer dan 40 landen aanwezig. Wat sprekers,

Ban Ki-Moon addresses #London conference on #Libya; 'we have avoided a bloodbath' #Libya #NFZ

Clinton - Gaddafi in flagrant breach of Un resolution. Clinton says world must keep up pressure in Gaddafi #Libya

Qatar PM: The military operations in #Libya saved thousands of lives (Qatar sent a third of its fighter-jet fleet for the Libya operations)

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton tells the international conference on Libya being held in London that military action by coalition forces will continue until Col Gaddafi complies with UN resolutions.

UK Prime Minister David Cameron has called for the creation of a "contact group" to provide sustained political support for Libya. "We are all here united in one purpose and that is to help the Libyan people in their hour of need," he told the international conference on Libya.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton tells the international conference on Libya being held in London that military action by coalition forces will continue until Col Gaddafi complies with UN resolutions.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 15:34:43 #300
19242 yavanna
Results may vary.
pi_94763653
Libyan Woman Is Sued Over Rape Accusation

TRIPOLI, Libya In the latest turn in the case of Eman al-Obeidy, a Libyan woman apprehended by security forces for trying to tell journalists that she had been raped by members of the Col. Muammar el-Qaddafis militia, a government spokesman said Tuesday that the unidentified militia members she accused had filed a civil case against her.

Oh, yeah, they have filed a case, the spokesman, Musa Ibrahim said. The boys who she accused of rape are bringing a case because it is a very grave offense to accuse someone of a sexual crime.

Journalists have been unable to learn Ms. al-Obeidys whereabouts since she was removed by force from the Rixos Hotel here after scuffles between security personnel, hotel staff and foreign journalists she had been trying to approach on Saturday.

Mr. Ibrahim initially described her as drunk and potentially delusional. Then, later on Saturday, he called her sober and sane. And on Sunday he termed her a prostitute and a thief.

He said that her case against the men had been dropped because she refused to submit to a medical examination, and he reiterated a promise that she would be offered a chance to speak again to the press.

The story of her treatment, covered by satellite news channels and Web sites, has riveted Libyans of all stripes. To critics of the Qaddafi government Ms. Obeidy has become the new face of its brutal tactics. Her family and tribe, based in the rebel-held east, is reportedly standing by her, bucking tradition to reject any assertion of a stain on her reputation from the alleged sexual crime. Rebels in Benghazi, the de facto rebel capital, have also held rallies to support her.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
abonnement Unibet Coolblue Bitvavo
Forum Opties
Forumhop:
Hop naar:
(afkorting, bv 'KLB')