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  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:13:34 #201
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1s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 20:59 schreef MangoTree het volgende:

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Omdat je denkt dat er geen anti-G zit?

Ik vermoed/hoop heel veel.
Doelde op de snipers eigenlijk. Bepaalde gebouwen zullen helemaal vol zitten met pro's en die zul je moeten bestormen, of het hele gebouw opblazen. Het laatste lijkt me niet echt iets wat de rebellen kunnen bereiken met hun wapens.
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:14:06 #202
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1s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:13 schreef Hans_van_Baalen het volgende:

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Doelde op de snipers eigenlijk. Bepaalde gebouwen zullen helemaal vol zitten met pro's en die zul je moeten bestormen, of het hele gebouw opblazen. Het laatste lijkt me niet echt iets wat de rebellen kunnen bereiken met hun wapens.
Sarkozy wil vast wel even stiekem helpen :P
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:17:00 #203
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AJE

Spencer Ackerman from Wired.com wrote that NATO is taking command of the Libya war. But the real strategy for victory over Moammar Gadhafi is found on the airwaves above Libya: communications frequencies telling his commanders to simply give up fighting. If that sounds like hope masquerading as a plan, then youre receiving the message loud and clear.

Flying over Libya is the Commando Solo, the Air Forces special operations aircraft. Its capable of hijacking radio and TV frequencies to disrupt enemy communications and broadcast the messaging that the U.S. wants. Last week, it informed Libyan naval officers that if they left port to challenge the American, French and Italian ships floating nearby, theyd be destroyed.
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  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:19:19 #204
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Telegraph

Further information on the British air strikes carried out earlier today. RAF Tornados destroyed two tanks and two armoured vehicles today, the Ministry of Defence said. Major General John Lorimer, Chief of Defence Staff's strategic communications officer, said:

UK Operations in support of UNSCR 1973 have continued on Monday. Earlier today, to protect civilians from Col Gadaffi's forces, RAF Tornado GR4 aircraft conducting armed reconnaissance flights over the area around Misrata fired Brimstone missiles, destroying two main battle tanks and two armoured vehicles.

[ Bericht 36% gewijzigd door yavanna op 28-03-2011 21:24:23 ]
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  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:27:08 #205
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Stuk zuidelijker. Geen bericht nog over wat daar de doelen zouden zijn geweest.

Telegraph.

Western coalition air strikes hit civilian and military areas in the towns of Garyan and Mizdah, Libyan State TV has claimed quoting a military official. It said in a written news flash:

Civilian and military areas in Garyan and Mizdah were hit on Monday night by the colonial and crusader aggressors.

Garyan lies about 100 km south of Tripoli, while Mizdah is about 184 km south of the capital.
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er zijn 4 b-1b 's geland op Malta
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:43:13 #207
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Cafeïne is ook maar een drug.
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De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:44:34 #208
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Libyan woman who alleged rape remains hidden from world

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(CNN) -- She burst into a Tripoli, Libya, hotel over the weekend, pleading with journalists to tell the world that she was raped by government troops. As security forces subdued the screaming woman and dragged her away, she warned, "If you don't see me tomorrow, then that's it."

Two days later, reporters have not seen Eman al-Obeidy.

The same government that took her away is insisting she is fine. But reporters and human rights activists have not been able to see her, and her whereabouts are unclear. Verder.
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  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:45:48 #209
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1s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:27 schreef zoefbust het volgende:
er zijn 4 b-1b 's geland op Malta
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Dat is vreemd, waarom zou je lange afstandsbommenwerpers zo dichtbij stationeren?
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:46:53 #210
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1s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 15:38 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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11s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:45 schreef remlof het volgende:

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Dat is vreemd, waarom zou je lange afstandsbommenwerpers zo dichtbij stationeren?
Hillen? :')
2019: The Great Awakening
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11s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:45 schreef remlof het volgende:

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Dat is vreemd, waarom zou je lange afstandsbommenwerpers zo dichtbij stationeren?
Die kunnen van allerlei soorten bommen meenemen
is denk ik de opvolger van de B 52
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:48:39 #212
104871 remlof
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1s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:47 schreef zoefbust het volgende:

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Die kunnen van allerlei soorten bommen meenemen
is denk ik de opvolger van de B 52
Ja is het ook, maar die dingen vliegen normaal vanuit Engeland of zelfs de VS.
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7s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:48 schreef remlof het volgende:

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Ja is het ook, maar die dingen vliegen normaal vanuit Engeland of zelfs de VS.
Gun die piloten ook eens een normale werkdag dan:P
retour vs-libië komt wel op meer dan een acht-urige werkdag uit..
..non est vivere sed valere vita est ..
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7s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:48 schreef remlof het volgende:

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Ja is het ook, maar die dingen vliegen normaal vanuit Engeland of zelfs de VS.
deze komen uit Ellsworth AFB US

Several B-1B Lancer bombers left Ellsworth AFB US for joining a mission in Libya. Heard callsigns BONE 34, 35, 36, 37. While Atlantic BONE 34 was the lead flight in contact with Gander and Santa Maria AOC, finally heading waypoint KOMUT 38°0'0N 15°0'0W.

At 01:08 UTC the lead B-1B bomber BONE 34 contacted Malta ACC on 130.975 MHz before going tactical.
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:51:21 #215
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Cafeïne is ook maar een drug.
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11s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:45 schreef remlof het volgende:

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Dat is vreemd, waarom zou je lange afstandsbommenwerpers zo dichtbij stationeren?
Scheelt een hoop tijd en brandstof, hoor! :D
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De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
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ze gaan mach 1.3 geloof ik en hebben 4 F16 motoren
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:52:01 #217
104871 remlof
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1s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:50 schreef zoefbust het volgende:

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deze komen uit Ellsworth AFB US

Several B-1B Lancer bombers left Ellsworth AFB US for joining a mission in Libya. Heard callsigns BONE 34, 35, 36, 37. While Atlantic BONE 34 was the lead flight in contact with Gander and Santa Maria AOC, finally heading waypoint KOMUT 38°0'0N 15°0'0W.

At 01:08 UTC the lead B-1B bomber BONE 34 contacted Malta ACC on 130.975 MHz before going tactical.
Daar staat nergens dat ze gaan landen op Malta :P

En ow ja, ze noemen die dingen Bone, B-One, B-1 :D
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Nog nieuws over Sirte, of is dat nog een brug te ver. :{
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7s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:52 schreef remlof het volgende:

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Daar staat nergens dat ze gaan landen op Malta :P

En ow ja, ze noemen die dingen Bone, B-One, B-1 :D
Dat ze gaan landen stond wel ergens (zal kijken of ik dat nog kan vinden)
maar misschien vliegen ze wel terug maar dat lijkt me niet .
Ze kunnen nl ook in de lucht bijgetankt worden
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 21:58:54 #220
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1s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:57 schreef zoefbust het volgende:

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Dat ze gaan landen stond wel ergens (zal kijken of ik dat nog kan vinden)
maar misschien vliegen ze wel terug maar dat lijkt me niet .
Ze kunnen nl ook in de lucht bijgetankt worden
Die vliegen terug hoor, die landen alleen op Malta als ze zware averij hebben, want zelfs dan zullen ze nog proberen een NAVO basis in Italië te halen.
  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 22:00:10 #221
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1s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:53 schreef Mr_Memory het volgende:
Nog nieuws over Sirte, of is dat nog een brug te ver. :{
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Libyan rebels halted in advance on Sirte

Rebel Libyan forces were halted about 50 miles from Sirte on Monday as Britain and France called on Gaddafi's supporters to desert "before it is too late".

Revolutionary forces had advanced more than 150 miles in two days, helped by coalition air strikes, breaking the stalemate at Ajdabiya and paving the way for hundreds of men to stream forward along Libya's coastal road.

But despite a Libyan rebel claim that Sirte had been captured, there was no sign on Monday that the opposition was in control of the city, which marks the boundary between the east and west of Libya and has great symbolic importance as Gaddafi's home city.

Instead, pro-Gaddafi troops in Sirte were being rallied by forces travelling east from Tripoli and other strongholds in 4x4 vehicles with light weaponry mounted on the rear, a break from the heavier artillery used so far by Gaddafi's forces, which has been picked off with relative ease by coalition air strikes.

After another wave of air strikes targeted Sirte on Sunday night and Monday morning, a joint statement was issued by David Cameron and Nicolas Sarkozy. They said Gaddafi loyalists should abandon the dictator and side with those seeking his departure.

"We call on all his followers to leave him before it is too late," the British and French prime ministers said. "We call on all Libyans who believe that Gaddafi is leading Libya into a disaster to take the initiative now to organise a transition process."

They pledged that military operations would end "only when the civilian population are safe and secure from the threat of attack".

The current regime has "completely lost its legitimacy" and Gaddafi must "go immediately", the statement said.

Cameron earlier revealed in the Commons RAF pilots had flown more than 120 sorties and completed more than 250 hours of flight as part of the action in the country.

However, the US military warned that the rebels' advance could be quickly reversed without continued coalition bombing. "The regime still vastly overmatches opposition forces militarily," General Carter F Ham, the highest-ranking American in the coalition operation, told the New York Times via email. "The regime possesses the capability to roll them back very quickly. Coalition air power is the major reason that has not happened."

His warning came as coalition forces appeared to ratchet up the number of air strikes against Gaddafi forces. Defence officials say the higher tempo is the result of more intelligence surveillance and assessments from reconnaissance aircraft but they warn aerial bombardment is getting more problematic because priority targets are increasingly in urban areas. "Obviously it is more difficult in an urban environment," officials said.

British defence officials said they believed the rules of engagement may be made much more restrictive when Nato takes responsibility for the coalition's military operations, probably by Thursday. The attacks have been criticised by Russia as "intervention in a civil war" on the side of the rebels.

On the ground, the area around Sirte was quiet after heavy bombardment from before dawn and there was no sign it had been taken by the Benghazi-based rebels advancing from the east. It is rumoured that the outskirts have been planted with landmines.

Rebels retook the important oil towns of Brega, Ras Lanuf and Ben Jawad, and continued on the open desert road towards Sirte, about 95 miles away.

A doctor treating wounded government soldiers described hundreds of deaths, terrible injuries and collapsing morale.

The Guardian advanced to the outskirts of Sirte with the rebels from Benghazi who were able to move with no opposition, simply driving along Libya's coastal road as Gaddafi's forces pulled back.

In a statement to the House of Commons, Cameron paid tribute to the "skilful and dangerous work" performed by pilots, who he said had destroyed 22 of Gaddafi's tanks, armoured vehicles and heavy guns over the weekend and flown into the desert on Monday morning to target ammunition bunkers.

The prime minister said the allied operations to protect civilians in Libya had had a "significant and beneficial effect" over the last 10 days, stopping the assault on Benghazi and helping "to create conditions in which a number of towns have been liberated from Gaddafi's onslaught".

In Sabha, in south Libya, one Libyan witness said there was a first air strike at about 2.30am followed, about two hours later, by a bigger attack on an ammunitions bunker about seven miles away from the centre.

"It hit the ammunitions storage and it kept exploding because it activated all the other bombs. I've never seen anything like that except in the movies. There was no fighting here - it was a very quiet city," he said.

"I looked out of my window and it looked like a mushroom with fire. It was a shock. There was a strike before but it was just noise and vibration. This one was worse and it kept going for more than three hours. People were running out of their houses because the windows were shattered and doors cleared out."

On Monday morning, Russia's foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, criticised the attacks on loyalist forces by coalition aircraft. "We consider that intervention by the coalition in what is essentially an internal civil war is not sanctioned by the UN security council resolution," Lavrov said.

In Tripoli, the parents of a Libyan woman who claimed she was detained and raped by Gaddafi's forces said their daughter was being held at the Libyan leader's compound.

Iman al-Obeidi entered a hotel where many foreign journalists were staying in the Libyan capital on Saturday, saying she had been raped by 15 men over two days. She was bundled into a car by Libyan officials and driven off. The Libyan government later said she had been released, but her parents told al-Jazeera TV that their daughter was still being detained.
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  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 22:00:37 #222
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Huge protest for #LIBYA TMRW outside the British Foreign Ministry @ junction btwn Whitehall&King Charles st 1-3PM #feb17 RT!!
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7s.gif Op maandag 28 maart 2011 21:58 schreef remlof het volgende:

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Die vliegen terug hoor, die landen alleen op Malta als ze zware averij hebben, want zelfs dan zullen ze nog proberen een NAVO basis in Italië te halen.
ze kunnen aardig wat meenemen zo te zien

  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 22:03:47 #224
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Interview met 'een' B-1B piloot, voor wat achtergrondinfo. :P


B-1B's zouden vanochtend boven Libie gevlogen hebben.

FMCNL: AUDIO: Mission completed! USAF Lancer B-1B bombers in Libyan airspace this morning at 01:15 UTC http://audioboo.fm/boos/314345
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  maandag 28 maart 2011 @ 22:04:10 #225
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