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  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 11:45:10 #276
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Gisteravond stonden rebellen nog 60 km oosteljk van Sirt, paar uur geleden zag ik ze terugkeren naar kruispunt in Ras Lanuf, 150 km #Libie

...met andere woorden: opmars van rebellen is voorlopig voorbij en ze zijn al weer terrein aan het verliezen...frontlinie is een jojo

Sirt dus niet in handen van rebellen en ik niet naar nederlandse helicopter op het strand in Sirt. jammer, had me wel leuk geleken.
Het zal de komende tijd voetsoldaten vs voetsoldaten worden lijkt het wel. Met de coalitie die elk voertuig en vliegtuig uit de lucht haalt, is dit de enige mogelijkheid voor G om verzet te bieden tegen de rebellen zonder de NAVO op z'n nek te halen.

Punt is wel dat de militairen van G stukken beter getraind zullen zijn.
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 11:48:08 #277
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Wat een rare slechte beelden. Een kort interview met b.v. een recente krant erbij zou overtuigend zijn, dit niet echt.

Khamis Gaddafi spotted on Libyan TV

Libyan State TV broadcast what they claim is live footage of Colonel Gaddafi's son, Khamis
Gaddafi.

n the video a man bearing a striking resemblance to Gaddafi's son is seen parading through his father's compound in Tripoli.

The footage appears to be an attempt to quash rumours of Khamis' death at the hands of a suicidal Libyan jet pilot who it is claimed flew his plane into the family compound.

Khamis is the commander of the 32nd brigade thought to include the most highly trained soldiers in Libya.

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Ben benieuwd hoe lang het duurt voordat de rebellen daar ineens met USA Made guns en raketwerpers lopen.
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 11:49:04 #278
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1s.gif Op dinsdag 29 maart 2011 11:45 schreef Hans_van_Baalen het volgende:

Punt is wel dat de militairen van G stukken beter getraind zullen zijn.
totdat het beloofde geld op is natuurlijk

maar grootste probleem lijkt me de benzine dus die zal eerst uit benzaghi moeten komen denk ik?
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  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 11:52:14 #279
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Ik denk dat Seif dood is. :Y En Khamis ook, ik denk niet dat dat live beelden waren.
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@BreakingNews U.S. aircraft attack 3 Libyan vessels after they open fire 'indiscriminately' on merchant ships in Misrata port - U.S. official via NBC

Was dat niet onze taak? ;-).
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 11:54:47 #281
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#Reuters
Libië Amerikaanse strijdkrachten hebben gisteren drie Libische schepen aangevallen, waaronder een patrouilleboot van de kustwacht. De schepen zouden zijn uitgeschakeld omdat ze willekeurig het vuur openden op koopvaardijschepen in de haven van Misurata. De schepen waren ten tijde van de aanval aangemeerd, aldus een woordvoerder van het Amerikaanse leger.
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  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 11:58:47 #282
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  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 11:59:27 #283
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totdat het beloofde geld op is natuurlijk

maar grootste probleem lijkt me de benzine dus die zal eerst uit benzaghi moeten komen denk ik?
Denk dat hij genoeg geld en waardevol materiaal heeft, maar het de vraag zal de vraag zijn of dat toereikend voor hem is. 99% van zijn buitenlandse operaties en bedrijven kan hij wel vergeten. Hij heeft nog wel meer dan een miljard aan goud in z'n kluis als ik me de berichtgeving goed herinner.

Daarnaast zal het merendeel het niet alleen voor het geld doen, maar ook om hun voorkeurspositie te verdedigen.
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Nu wordt Eman Al-Obeidi dus zelf aangeklaagd :')

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The Libyan woman who claimed she was gang-raped is being prosecuted for "blackening the men's names".
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 12:05:28 #285
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Ik denk dat Seif dood is. :Y En Khamis ook, ik denk niet dat dat live beelden waren.
Of het is zo met opzet, en Khamis voert binnenkort een verassingsaanval uit.
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 12:28:19 #286
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Press conference in Tripoli now with 4 'NGO and activist' observers - not clear which groups they represent

One has already accused western media of lying and being 'an arm of the US govt' -cited 4 airstrike scenes, but admits didn't go to see them

The activist who thinks we are liars now says his information is trustworthy because it comes from 'libyan artists'

Three speeches from the 'independent observers' so far - all have expressed strong anti-war, anti-west sentiments

One of them is a French woman Maria Poummier from Association Entre La Plume et l'Enclave - says she's here to 'campaign & observe'

Another is thought to be Dieudonne M'Bala M'Bala - a controversial French comedian and activist

Moussa Ibrahim now saying he doesn't know whether #EmanAlObeidi is released at the moment -seemed to imply there are now charges against her

Moussa Ibrahim on #Eman: "it seems the accuser has become the accused...but I can't talk about the details of the case"
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  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 12:36:32 #287
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The BBC's John Simpson in Tripoli says he has spoken to a source close to Col Gaddafi and asked him if the Libyan leader would relinquish power easily: "He [that person] reinforced all these views that he [Col Gaddafi] isn't going to go anywhere unless he is absolutely forced out... To offer him a bolt-hole is something he would not be interested in - unless he was clear there was no alternative."
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Onduidelijkheid over Eman al-Obeidi
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mrt 29 |11:33

Het lot van Eman al-Obeidi, de vrouw die afgelopen weekend tijdens een persconferentie in een hotel uit de doeken deed dat ze meerdere malen was verkracht door mensen van kolonel Kadhafi, is ongewis. Kadhafi's woordvoerder zegt dat ze veilig thuis is bij haar familie, maar volgens haar moeder is dat niet waar. Ze zei in een interview met al-Jazeera dat ze niet weet waar haar dochter is. Ze vertelde ook dat ze om 03.00 uur 's nachts is gebeld vanuit het hoofdkantoor van Kadhafi. "Ze zeiden: 'Als je dochter het verhaal dat ze is verkracht intrekt, mag ze naar huis'. Ze kon alles krijgen, geld een huis, alles, maar ze moest het verhaal intrekken."

http://www.nieuwsmening-magazine.nl/index.php/home
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  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 14:10:32 #290
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#Libya foreign Minister Mousa Kousa spotted with family, luggages in #Tunisia
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  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 14:13:08 #291
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Onduidelijkheid over Eman al-Obeidi
T.O

mrt 29 |11:33

Het lot van Eman al-Obeidi, de vrouw die afgelopen weekend tijdens een persconferentie in een hotel uit de doeken deed dat ze meerdere malen was verkracht door mensen van kolonel Kadhafi, is ongewis. Kadhafi's woordvoerder zegt dat ze veilig thuis is bij haar familie, maar volgens haar moeder is dat niet waar. Ze zei in een interview met al-Jazeera dat ze niet weet waar haar dochter is. Ze vertelde ook dat ze om 03.00 uur 's nachts is gebeld vanuit het hoofdkantoor van Kadhafi. "Ze zeiden: 'Als je dochter het verhaal dat ze is verkracht intrekt, mag ze naar huis'. Ze kon alles krijgen, geld een huis, alles, maar ze moest het verhaal intrekken."

http://www.nieuwsmening-magazine.nl/index.php/home
Waarschijnlijk een wat ouder bericht, daar inmiddels door een woordvoerder is gezegd dat Eman nu beschuldigd wordt van 'zwartmakerij' . :')
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  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 14:17:11 #292
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Misrata, wat een hel voor de inwoners.

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Gaddafi's forces have killed at least 142 people and wounded more than 1,400 others since the onslaught on Misrata began on March 18, a doctor at the city's hospital told AFP.

Tanks and troops loyal to Gaddafi have swept through Misrata, firing shells as they attacked the city, a rebel spokesman has said.

It came as rebels in Benghazi claimed a hospital ship is due to dock in Misrata, escorted by Nato after intense fighting with Gaddafi's forces.

BBC


Further west, ships from the US Sixth Fleet attacked three Libyan ships that had been firing indiscriminately at merchant ships in the port of Misrata, 210km east of Tripoli, US officials said. Tanks and troops loyal to Col Gaddafi had swept through the city firing shells as they attacked, AFP reported rebels as saying.

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Al Jazeera: AFP: Libyan revolutionaries say that Gaddafi forces are heading towards Misurata, fear of massacre. #Libya
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  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 14:22:02 #293
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US gunships mark change of tactic in Libya air strikes



The US has been giving the impression that it has backed away from the bombing campaign in Libya. It has now emerged that while the initial intensity of the high-altitude air strikes and cruise missile attacks has diminished, the US has not let up. In a dramatic and significant escalation of the assault on Gaddafi's forces, the US has deployed low-flying, heavily-armed aircraft against Libyan armour.

It is a deployment far removed from the initial concept of a "no-fly" zone.

The Pentagon has revealed that AC-130 gunships and A10 tankbusters, of the kind used in Iraq and Afghanistan, have been deployed in Libya. "We have employed A10s and AC-130s over the weekend," Vice-Admiral Bill Gortney, said.

The aircraft are better suited than high-flying fighter bombers to attack targets in built-up areas without so much risk of civilian casualties, defence officials say.

However, their sheer firepower can lead to civilian deaths as their attacks on the Iraqi city of Falluja after the 2003 invasion of Iraq demonstrated.

The AC-130 gunship is a heavily modified Hercules transport plane armed with 20mm, 40mm and 105mm cannons. The A10 "thunderbolts" conducts close-range attacks, notably against tanks and armoured vehicles. It is equipped with a multi-barrelled 30mm cannon which can fire a devastating almost 4,000 rounds a minute.

The use of the close air support aircraft has fuelled claims that the US is actively co-ordinating tactics with the rebels. Aware of the controversy any such admission could unleash, Gortney, director of the Pentagon's Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the US actions were in support of the UN-backed resolutions to protect Libyan civilians. "We're not in direct support of the opposition, that's not part of our mandate, and we're not co-ordinating with the opposition," he added. He described the US strategy as one of continuing "to pressure them where we think it's going to give us the best effect".

The AC-130s, flying from a base in Italy, were requested by General Carter Ham, the senior US general overseeing the operation, and are likely to continue flying over Libya in the coming days as allied forces attempt to increase the pressure on Gaddafi's ground forces, the Washington Post reported.

The RAF, which does not possess these low-flying US warplanes, has deployed Tornados firing laser or radar-guided weapons such as the Brimstone missile against Libyan armour. It has also fired Storm Shadow cruise weapons, costing an estimated £800,000 each, against ammunition bunkers in the Sabha area in the southern Libya desert.
Ook A-10's aktief dus.



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  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 14:53:50 #294
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1.44pm: Ian Black, in Tripoli, writes that Libyan officials "insist, improbably, that there are no shortages in government-controlled areas". However Ian says that is "certainly not true of Misrata, the country's third city, where small numbers of rebels continue to hold out against Gaddafi loyalists and there are reports of a deepening humanitarian crisis, including dwindling stocks of drugs and medical equipment".

As well as Misrata, problems are evidently mounting elsewhere.

The most visible sign of trouble is the long queues at petrol stations. On the 460 kilometres journey from Tripoli to Gaddafi's hometown of Sirte on Monday every petrol station was either closed or had queues stretching hundreds of yards. Traffic jams in the capital are caused by motorists waiting to fill up their tanks.

The problem is a combination of drastically reduced production, poor distribution and panic buying. Oil production is down to about one quarter of pre-crisis levels partly because of the flight of foreign workers. The refinery at Zawiya west of Tripoli was damaged in the fighting and while the one at Ras Lanuf in the east is in rebel hands. Italian tankers bringing refined petroleum have reportedly been turned back.

"Petrol is very cheap," said Ahmed, a twenty-something taxi driver, negotiating the traffic outside Gaddafi's Bab al-Aziziya barracks. "But now the shortage is getting really serious." Libyans also say they are short of cooking gas.

The head of the Libyan ports authority complained this week that some imports of food and medicine have been stopped even though they are not subject to an embargo by the UN security council.

Another highly visible problem is bread, with queues everywhere. The issue here is one of labour, with the low paid Egyptians and Tunisians who do many menial jobs spurned by Libyans having fled the country when the uprising began in the third week of February. There is some evidence of shortages of cooking oil and sugar.

Other sectors have been similarly affected by the exit of foreign labourers. The port in Sirte, Muammar Gaddafi's home town, is jammed with fishing boats which have been idle since their Egyptian and Tunisian crews fled
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  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 14:58:34 #295
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The Libyan opposition's Transitional National Council has released a two-page political platform ( PDF ), called "A Vision of a Democratic Libya."

Among other principles, the document calls for a national constitution that separates government into executive, legislative and judicial branches, a guarantee of the freedom of expression, and "a state that draws strength from our strong religious beliefs in peace, truth, justice and equality."
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Ik vind die opmars naar tripoli wel erg lang duren. Kunnen we niet wat olietankers sturen om de gehele rebellenvlood van benzine te voorzien ( en geef ze dan toch ook maar wat knappe wapens). Elke minuut oorlog is een minuut teveel
  dinsdag 29 maart 2011 @ 15:18:10 #297
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The city of Misrata, Libya, is reported under seige with pro-Gadhafi forces moving in from several fronts. Coalition warplanes circling.

Libyan official sources charge the coalition jets are bombing Misrata, but eyewitnesses dispute that...charge Gadhafi forces "evicting" ppl

Misrata is isolated, surrounded by territory controlled by pro-Gadhafi forces.
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Dat vermoeden had ik al dat die jongste zoon er geen zin meer in had. Groot gelijk. Studeerde in München en daar met de noorderzon vertrokken richting Parijs.
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Ban Ki-Moon addresses #London conference on #Libya; 'we have avoided a bloodbath' #Libya #NFZ

Clinton - Gaddafi in flagrant breach of Un resolution. Clinton says world must keep up pressure in Gaddafi #Libya

Qatar PM: The military operations in #Libya saved thousands of lives (Qatar sent a third of its fighter-jet fleet for the Libya operations)

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton tells the international conference on Libya being held in London that military action by coalition forces will continue until Col Gaddafi complies with UN resolutions.

UK Prime Minister David Cameron has called for the creation of a "contact group" to provide sustained political support for Libya. "We are all here united in one purpose and that is to help the Libyan people in their hour of need," he told the international conference on Libya.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton tells the international conference on Libya being held in London that military action by coalition forces will continue until Col Gaddafi complies with UN resolutions.
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Libyan Woman Is Sued Over Rape Accusation

TRIPOLI, Libya In the latest turn in the case of Eman al-Obeidy, a Libyan woman apprehended by security forces for trying to tell journalists that she had been raped by members of the Col. Muammar el-Qaddafis militia, a government spokesman said Tuesday that the unidentified militia members she accused had filed a civil case against her.

Oh, yeah, they have filed a case, the spokesman, Musa Ibrahim said. The boys who she accused of rape are bringing a case because it is a very grave offense to accuse someone of a sexual crime.

Journalists have been unable to learn Ms. al-Obeidys whereabouts since she was removed by force from the Rixos Hotel here after scuffles between security personnel, hotel staff and foreign journalists she had been trying to approach on Saturday.

Mr. Ibrahim initially described her as drunk and potentially delusional. Then, later on Saturday, he called her sober and sane. And on Sunday he termed her a prostitute and a thief.

He said that her case against the men had been dropped because she refused to submit to a medical examination, and he reiterated a promise that she would be offered a chance to speak again to the press.

The story of her treatment, covered by satellite news channels and Web sites, has riveted Libyans of all stripes. To critics of the Qaddafi government Ms. Obeidy has become the new face of its brutal tactics. Her family and tribe, based in the rebel-held east, is reportedly standing by her, bucking tradition to reject any assertion of a stain on her reputation from the alleged sexual crime. Rebels in Benghazi, the de facto rebel capital, have also held rallies to support her.
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