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Duizenden bij herdenking in Alphen
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Ook had Eenhoorn aandacht voor de Syrische dichter die is omgekomen. Hij was zijn land uitgevlucht en is nu in Alphen omgekomen bij een zinloze schietpartij.
http://nos.nl/artikel/232(...)nking-in-alphen.html
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  maandag 11 april 2011 @ 16:54:13 #252
172669 Papierversnipperaar
Cafene is ook maar een drug.
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Syria death toll rises as threats of force become more explicity

At least three killed and many more wounded in shootings in port city of Banias amid reports army was moving in

Human rights groups have warned over the rising death toll in Syria as security forces moved to quell a growing and sustained series of protests in cities across the country.

At least three people were shot dead and scores more wounded in shootings in the port city of Banias on Sunday amid reports that the army, already deployed in Deraa and Latakia, was being deployed.

Human rights groups named Ayman Soliman, Nizar Higazy and Muhammad al-Dayegh as those killed after Sunday prayers, while a further person was in a critical condition after being shot during earlier unrest the same day.

The fresh violence came as Syria's president, Bashar al-Assad, said in a statement that the country was "on course to comprehensive reform".

But protesters rejected the claims, pointing to an apparent warning by the government of further violence issued amid Friday's protests, the largest and most deadly yet.

A statement carried by the state news agency Sana said: "There is no more room for leniency or tolerance" in "preserving security of the country and protecting the general order".

This would be done "according to the law which specified the conditions for using weapons". Up until now the government has not admitted to using force, blaming the crackdown on outsiders.

As night fell on Sunday, Banias, which has a major oil refinery, was cordoned off; mourners took to the streets in Douma; and a sit-in was going on in Deraa.

The National Organisation for Human Rights said 37 people were killed across Syria on Friday, including 27 in Deraa, three in Homs, three in Harasta and one in Douma, bringing the total death toll to more than 200 since 18 March.

On Saturday there were reports of violent clashes between mourners and security forces. One witness in Deraa told the Guardian that security forces had been "shooting randomly" as mass funerals went on. It was not clear whether anyone died in those clashes, but activists say they are increasingly concerned that there will be a major crackdown this week.

There are also concerns over access to medical care being blocked amid interruptions to communications in parts of Banias, Latakia and Deraa.

"Pharmacists in Banias are being told by security to shut early and to report those who purchase goods to treat the injured," said Wissam Tarif, a local human rights monitor. "We are also worried about the government's intentions in Deraa."

A nationwide violent crackdown by security forces has been complicated in Banias and Latakia by reports of involvement by the shabiha, a violent group with links to the ruling Assad family. But the government has denied the group's involvement, blaming unrest on "spiteful individuals, outsiders and those who were compelled by known foreign parties".

On Saturday Barack Obama condemned Friday's crackdown as "abhorrent". But activists and protesters have grown increasingly frustrated by a muted international response which has seen regional countries rally to Assad's side.

A cycle of violence may now have taken hold which would escalate if the government refuses to meet protesters' demands, said Ayman Abdel Nour, a Syrian dissident living in Dubai. But he added: "We are still not seeing enough people from all governorates and segments of society coming out to allow them to tip the balance."

Assad has attempted to keep protest numbers down by issuing concessions to appease specific groups such as Kurds and conservative Muslims. But he has failed to put an end to emergency law or release political prisoners – two of the protesters' demands. Many people in Damascus, which has been calm, have expressed anxiety and even anger at the continued unrest as a threat to stability.

But there are small signs of growing unhappiness among formerly loyalists. An editor at the state-run newspaper Tishreen, Samira Masalma, was sacked after she criticised the shootings on al-Jazeera television.

There have also been reports of some army and security forces refusing to shoot at protesters.

The Guardian could not independently verify these reports.
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De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
  maandag 11 april 2011 @ 19:39:11 #253
341972 Goldenkiss
Deze persoon HAAT de overheid
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gwn bom erop gooie , weg ermee duurd weer 100jaar voordat je herbouwt zxijn
Verbazing verschijnt volop , als ik denk over de mensen die denken te weten waar ze het over hebben en eigenlijk gewoon slaaf van t systeem figuranten zijn
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Op maandag 11 april 2011 19:39 schreef Goldenkiss het volgende:
gwn bom erop gooie , weg ermee duurd weer 100jaar voordat je herbouwt zxijn
:')
Terrorism is the poor mans war, war is the rich mans terrorism.
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12 April 2011 Last updated at 11:11 GMT
Syria: 'Dozens injured' in Baniyas as arrests continue
Dozens of people have been injured in clashes with security forces in the Syrian port of Baniyas, where 13 people were killed on Saturday, residents say.
One area is surrounded by army vehicles and gunfire is ongoing, they say.

Rights groups say hundreds of people have been arrested, including several students who took part in a rare rally at Damascus University on Monday.

About 200 people have died in weeks of protests against repression by President Bashar al-Assad's government.

The unrest is seen as the biggest challenge to the president, whose recent promise to introduce reforms has failed to stop street protests.

Damascus protest
For the first time on Monday, around 500 students staged a demonstration at Damascus University, calling for greater political freedom.
There were reports that some students were arrested, although this cannot be confirmed.

There was a rare show of defiance at Damascus University

It was a daring step by the students, as the university is tightly controlled by security personnel affiliated to the ruling Baath Party, says the BBC's Lina Sinjab in the capital.

Students loyal to President Assad staged a counter-demonstration at the campus, chanting pro-government slogans.

In the coastal city of Baniyas, meanwhile, another 22 people were arrested on Monday, as funerals were held for the four people who died when security forces opened fire on protesters over the weekend.

The government said nine soldiers died in the clashes and another 18 were injured in Saturday's clashes.
Parts of the city remain under lockdown on Tuesday, residents have told the BBC.

One witness says the village of Bayda is surrounded by army vehicles. He says dozens of people have been injured in clashes with security forces, and that soldiers are preventing ambulances from getting into the town.

Earlier on Tuesday, Human Rights Watch (HRW) accused Syrian security forces of preventing medics from reaching wounded protesters when clashes erupted at anti-government demonstrations last week.

The US-based Human Rights Watch said troops had blocked access to medical treatment last week in the southern town of Deraa, the centre of a wave of protests against President Assad, and Harasta, near Damascus.

"To deprive wounded people of critical and perhaps life-saving medical treatment is both inhumane and illegal," said Sarah Leah Whitson, HRW's Middle East director.

It said a total of 28 people were killed on Friday when security forces fired on protesters in Deraa, Harasta and Douma, a suburb of Damascus.

"Syria's leaders talk about political reform, but they meet their people's legitimate demands for reform with bullets," said Ms Whitson.

Mass arrests


Meanwhile, hundreds of arrests were taking place across the country, according to human rights groups.

Fayez Sara, 61, a well known Syrian writer and journalist, was arrested on Monday, said Abdul-Karim Rihawi of the Syrian Human Rights League.

Mr Sara was the third opposition figure arrested since Sunday, he added. Others rounded up by security forces include bloggers, activists and young opposition supporters.

Human Rights Watch says there are reports of severe beatings and torture taking place inside prisons.

About 200 people in Syria have been killed in mass demonstrations, which first erupted in March in the southern city of Deraa.

The protests then spread across Syria despite Mr Assad's attempts to defuse tensions by offering "to study" whether to end to the decades-old emergency law and to appease minority Kurds by offering them citizenship.

Demonstrators are calling for greater political rights, personal freedoms, and an end to Assad's rule.
hoezo adhd ?
  dinsdag 12 april 2011 @ 17:27:25 #256
300435 Eyjafjallajoekull
Broertje van Katlaah
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1s.gif Op maandag 11 april 2011 19:39 schreef Goldenkiss het volgende:
gwn bom erop gooie , weg ermee duurd weer 100jaar voordat je herbouwt zxijn
Wie gaat dat doen dan? Onze overheid? Die haat je toch zo? (als ik je ondertitel zo lees)
Opgeblazen gevoel of winderigheid? Zo opgelost met Rennie!
  dinsdag 12 april 2011 @ 20:27:02 #257
172669 Papierversnipperaar
Cafene is ook maar een drug.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk(...)oldiers-shot-protest

Witnesses claim soldiers who disobeyed orders in Banias were shot by security services as crackdown on protests intensifies

Syrian soldiers have been shot by security forces after refusing to fire on protesters, witnesses said, as a crackdown on anti-government demonstrations intensified.

Witnesses told al-Jazeera and the BBC that some soldiers had refused to shoot after the army moved into Banias in the wake of intense protests on Friday.

Human rights monitors named Mourad Hejjo, a conscript from Madaya village, as one of those shot by security snipers. "His family and town are saying he refused to shoot at his people," said Wassim Tarif, a local human rights monitor.

Footage on YouTube shows an injured soldier saying he was shot in the back by security forces, while another video shows the funeral of Muhammad Awad Qunbar, who sources said was killed for refusing to fire on protesters. Signs of defections will be worrying to Syria's regime. State media reported a different version of events, claiming nine soldiers had been killed in an ambush by an armed group in Banias.

Activists said not all soldiers reported dead or injured were shot after refusing to fire. "We are investigating reports that some people have personal weapons and used them in self-defence," said Tarif.

The reports came as a leading Syrian opposition figure said pro-government gunmen had attacked two villages close to Banias, 25 miles south of Latakia, which has become the latest focus of violence since protests on Friday. Haitham al-Maleh told AP attackers were using automatic rifles in Bayda and Beit Jnad.

Human rights organisations said at least five protesters in Banias had been killed since Sunday including one on Tuesday. In Bayda witnesses reported that security thugs had beaten up men in the central square, and rights groups said hundreds of people had been arrested, including students who took part in an unprecedented rally at Damascus University on Monday.

Violence in the port cities of Banias and Latakia has become increasingly messy as locals report the involvement of pro-government thugs and private militias. One witness, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said "shabiha" (pro-government thugs) had attacked in cars decorated with photos of the president, Bashar al-Assad, on Sunday. Residents of Banias said there was a shortage of bread, and electricity and communications were intermittent.

Syria's leading pro-democracy group, the Damascus Declaration, urged the Arab League to impose sanctions on the regime and said the death toll from more than three weeks of unrest had topped 200.

Tens of thousands of people have taken to the streets to protest against Assad's authoritarian rule. Assad blames the violence on armed gangs and has vowed to crush unrest. He has made a series of overtures to appease anger, including sacking officials and granting Syrian nationality to thousands of Kurds, a long-ostracised minority. But the gestures have failed to satisfy protesters, who demand political freedoms and an end to the decades-old emergency laws that allow the regime to arrest people without charge.

On Tuesday Human Rights Watch condemned security forces for barring access to medical care. UK citizens were warned against "all but essential" travel to Syria and all travel to Banias, where residents are now holding a three-day strike.
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De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
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http://www.worldtribune.c(...)_syria0417_04_11.asp

Iran has deployed 10,000 elite troops in Syria to protect the regime of President Bashar Assad and has been in effective control of the country for the past week, the opposition said.

"In essence, the IRGC now occupies Syria and has become its de facto ruler," RPS spokesman Farid Ghadry said. "Syria has become the 32nd province of Iran."
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1s.gif Op maandag 11 april 2011 19:39 schreef Goldenkiss het volgende:
gwn bom erop gooie , weg ermee duurd weer 100jaar voordat je herbouwt zxijn
Jij bent echt stoerrrr, mag ik je aanraken?
jwz
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1s.gif Op woensdag 13 april 2011 01:11 schreef CaptainObvious39 het volgende:
http://www.worldtribune.c(...)_syria0417_04_11.asp

Iran has deployed 10,000 elite troops in Syria to protect the regime of President Bashar Assad and has been in effective control of the country for the past week, the opposition said.

"In essence, the IRGC now occupies Syria and has become its de facto ruler," RPS spokesman Farid Ghadry said. "Syria has become the 32nd province of Iran."
:').
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Iran aiding Syria crackdown on protests: report
WASHINGTON, Apr 14, 2011 (AFP) - Iran is aiding Syria in its suppression of pro-democracy demonstrators by providing equipment to put down protests and monitor opposition groups, the Wall Street Journal said Thursday, citing US officials.


Tehran has already begun providing crowd control equipment to Syrian authorities, and more deliveries are expected, said unnamed officials in President Barack Obama's administration, reported the Journal.

Based on intercepted communications among Iranian officials, officials said the assessment also showed Tehran is seeking to aid Shiite groups in Bahrain and Yemen and destabilize US allies in those countries, the Journal said.

"We believe that Iran is materially assisting the Syrian government in its efforts to suppress their own people," officials said, adding that Tehran is sharing "lessons learned" from the 2009 post-election crackdown on demonstrations that sought the ouster of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Iranian authorities are also providing Damascus technical assistance to monitor online communication from opposition groups to organize protests, US defense officials told the Journal.
Iran ziet zijn kans schoon.
The problem is not the occupation, but how people deal with it.
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Nou, poeh poeh, een van de landen waar gn Amerikaans "crowd control equipment" wordt gebruikt. Iran ziet zijn kans schoon, yeah right. Laten we nou toch alsjeblieft niet vallen in dat simplistische Iran-boeman-gekleuter.
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1s.gif Op donderdag 14 april 2011 12:46 schreef Monidique het volgende:
Nou, poeh poeh, een van de landen waar gn Amerikaans "crowd control equipment" wordt gebruikt. Iran ziet zijn kans schoon, yeah right. Laten we nou toch alsjeblieft niet vallen in dat simplistische Iran-boeman-gekleuter.
Iran vergroot haar invloed in de regio. Dat is het enige relevante punt.
The problem is not the occupation, but how people deal with it.
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1s.gif Op donderdag 14 april 2011 12:56 schreef waht het volgende:

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Iran vergroot haar invloed in de regio.
Blijkt dat ook nog ergens uit? Iran dat wat wapenleveranties doet aan buurland -haast-, nou nou. Is dat die vergrotende invloed?
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1s.gif Op donderdag 14 april 2011 12:58 schreef Monidique het volgende:

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Blijkt dat ook nog ergens uit? Iran dat wat wapenleveranties doet aan buurland -haast-, nou nou. Is dat die vergrotende invloed?
Dit is uiteraard slechts n voorbeeld, en ja: wapentuig leveren is invloed. Waarom denk je dat Amerika de grootste wapenhandelaar ter wereld is? Geld verdienen en conflicten sturen. Win-win.
The problem is not the occupation, but how people deal with it.
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1s.gif Op donderdag 14 april 2011 13:06 schreef waht het volgende:

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Dit is uiteraard slechts n voorbeeld, en ja: wapentuig leveren is invloed. Waarom denk je dat Amerika de grootste wapenhandelaar ter wereld is? Geld verdienen en conflicten sturen. Win-win.
We moeten niet panisch doen over Iran, een derdewereldland dat nauwelijks z'n eigen grenzen onder controle kan houden.
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1s.gif Op donderdag 14 april 2011 13:40 schreef Monidique het volgende:

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We moeten niet panisch doen over Iran, een derdewereldland dat nauwelijks z'n eigen grenzen onder controle kan houden.
Panisch zeker niet, maar we moeten ook niet doen alsof het regime van Iran het slachtoffer is.
The problem is not the occupation, but how people deal with it.
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1s.gif Op donderdag 14 april 2011 14:28 schreef waht het volgende:

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Panisch zeker niet, maar we moeten ook niet doen alsof het regime van Iran het slachtoffer is.
Net zomin als het regime van Soedan of China of Zweden. En ongeveer even relevant.
  vrijdag 15 april 2011 @ 13:23:27 #269
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Ilharaqa Baraka
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Zoals elke keer op vrijdag zijn er weer een hoop demonstraties gaande. Ik heb er een slecht gevoel over.. Ze zullen wederom met harde hand worden aangepakt en tot niets leiden.
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Source: The Guardian

Katherine Marsh (a pseudonym) writes with more from Syria:

Activists and witnesses say thousands are heading from the suburb of Douma, which witnessed huge protests over the last two Fridays, into central Damascus, heading for Abasiyeen Square. They say they are picking up protesters from areas along the way. If the protesters succeed in making it into the square - a central point in Damascus - this will change the game for Syria's president Bashar al-Assad. So far, large-scale protests have not hit Damascus or the second city of Aleppo, in the north.

While protests in Deraa and Banias seem to have been peaceful so far today, eyewitnesses are reporting a violent crackdown by security forces following a protest in Barzeh, an area of Damascus which has seen small-scale unrest in previous weeks. Many are reported injured in the area, whether from beatings or live ammunition is yet unclear; gunmen have been reported on the streets
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Video Of Syria Protesters 'Beaten' On Street

Footage has emerged apparently showing tied-up anti-government protesters in Syria being kicked and beaten by armed men on a street. (zie link hieronder)

http://news.sky.com/skyne(...)testers_By_Armed_Men

Demonstranten lopen richting Abbasid Plein


Demonstratie Jassem



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  vrijdag 15 april 2011 @ 17:13:39 #272
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Anime, patat en video games
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Waar is CLF trouwens? :o
All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers. ~Franois Fnelon
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1s.gif Op vrijdag 15 april 2011 17:13 schreef rakotto het volgende:
Waar is CLF trouwens? :o
Is in Syrie opgepakt door de geheime dienst omdat hij op dit forum heeft gezeten.
The problem is not the occupation, but how people deal with it.
  vrijdag 15 april 2011 @ 18:22:24 #274
271497 Aloulou
aka Alulu
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Prachtige video's die twee, ontzettend veel respect _O_ _O_
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
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1s.gif Op vrijdag 15 april 2011 18:22 schreef Aloulou het volgende:
Prachtige video's die twee, ontzettend veel respect _O_ _O_
_O_
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Politie schiet met scherp op demonstranten, Latakia, Syrie


Slachtoffer Latakia


Gearresteerde demonstranten geschopt en geslagen door veiligheidstroepen



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Ik maak mij zorgen om CLF. Is ie nog online gekomen sinds zijn bezoek aan Syri? :{
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Ziet er heftig uit. Neemt grote vormen aan zeg!
Terrorism is the poor mans war, war is the rich mans terrorism.
  vrijdag 15 april 2011 @ 20:20:13 #279
172669 Papierversnipperaar
Cafene is ook maar een drug.
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1s.gif Op vrijdag 15 april 2011 19:45 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:
Ik maak mij zorgen om CLF. Is ie nog online gekomen sinds zijn bezoek aan Syri? :{
Niet gezien. Ik ben bang dat hij in een Syrische cel zit en gemarteld wordt door zijn idool.
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[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
  vrijdag 15 april 2011 @ 20:24:04 #280
172669 Papierversnipperaar
Cafene is ook maar een drug.
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Syria's silent majority will determine next step as protests grow

Syria's protest movement is far from uniform, and divisions are becoming apparent as it gathers momentum

It was an episode that at any other time in Syria's history might have gone unnoticed. A month ago, a group of Syrian children, aged between 10 and 13, daubed anti-regime graffiti on a wall in a dusty town near the Jordan border. The security forces made some arrests. Relatives of the children protested. They were insulted and beaten.

Syrians have become used to this kind of brutality during the 11-year rule of Bashar al-Assad. But amid the revolt sweeping the Arab world, the incident quickly turned explosive. "It was unintentional," said Omar, 29, who identified himself as a family friend of the children in the original protest. "They saw on television Egypt and Tunisia and copied it."

In the month since then, protests have swirled around Syria, raising questions about the durability of the Assad regime. A rally in Deraa ended with six people being killed by security forces. The movement spread to other areas – Homs, the Damascus suburb Douma, Aleppo and Latakia in the north, Banias on the coast. Every time the security services tried to quash the protests, it merely provoked more unrest. The number of protests has increased ever since, as has the death toll, which is now estimated at more than 200.

Assad has tried waving threadbare olive branches: on Thursday he offered a prisoner release and appointed a new cabinet. But on Friday security forces used teargas to prevent thousands of protesters from marching towards Damascus's main Abbasside Square, while thousands once again took to the streets in a number of towns and cities from Deraa to Banias.

"We have always felt repression and lack of dignity but felt scared to do anything. Deraa changed that," said Mohammed, a 22-year-old student from the Damascus suburb of Madamiya where early on protests spilled out of mosques in solidarity with the "martyrs" of Deraa.

So who are the forces ranged against the Syrian president and can they follow the example of Tunisia and Egypt in ridding the region of another despot?

As in Egypt and Tunisia, latent anger has been simmering for years in Syria over a lack of jobs, corruption and nepotism and political repression at the hands of unaccountable security services.

Over the past three years prices have shot up, adding to economic woes, while a burgeoning youth population connected to the world through television and the internet has seen life outside. "The killing of people caused something to snap," said Mohammed. "As soon as I chanted for freedom and Deraa I felt like a human being for the first time in my life."

People like Mohammed form the majority of the protest movement – apolitical, informed, frustrated, mostly between 20 and 40 and largely male. There is much to complain about: a poor education system that fails to equip them for the job market, the nepotism and cronyism that disqualifies them from many opportunities, an inability to marry because they cannot afford a house.

Women have been less visible, though this week they turned out in their hundreds to call for the release of men rounded up in Beida. "We no longer trust the president," said one of the women, who did not want to be named. "We lack freedoms and corruption is everywhere, and the youths have demonstrated to address these issues peacefully. They [the security forces] faced them with fire."

She pointed out that her brother was summoned by the Syrian intelligence 30 years ago and has never returned home. "We do not know if he's dead or alive," she said.

This cohort has been bolstered by a small but budding group of lawyers, artists and aid workers engaged in social activism; teaching Iraqi refugees or taking food to victims of Syria's drought. "I have long been trying to organise protests," said one activist and former NGO worker in Damascus, who is subject to a travel ban, one of the Assad regime's tools of repression. "But until now people have been too scared – Egypt, Tunisia and Libya gave us inspiration whilst the killings caused anger to outweigh fear."

Activists like him have helped to organise further protests through a series of secret chatrooms online, and others such as Razan Zeitouneh and Wissam Tarif, two outspoken human rights activists who unusually go by their real names, seek to document the violence and garner media attention. In the last fortnight, members of the Damascus Declaration, a grouping of liberal and Islamist activists, have thrown their weight behind the protesters.

The movement is far from uniform, and divisions are becoming apparent as it grows. Calls for toppling Assad and defacing billboards of him are on the rise, but some protesters have specific demands. In Douma, some have called for the release of political prisoners and an end to shootings, while Mohammed says he wants "freedom" but is not yet sure what that means – "If good reforms are made, that may be enough."

And it would be wrong to say the movement is rampant or widespread. It may count many tens of thousands of supporters. But Syria is a country of more than 20 million people. And there may be as many Assad loyalists as there are protesters, people who through genuine admiration or fear of the alternative support the president.

Despite protesters from the Sunni majority being joined by some Kurds, Christians and reportedly Alawites from Assad's minority sect, they and many other Sunnis fear the rise of conservative Islam if Syria's secular state were to fall. Others look to Iraq and Lebanon as a forewarning. "We may not agree with everything, but the president has kept it safe for us," said one Christian in Damascus's Old City. A young female Muslim added: "He is young and understands us and is struggling against a regime he unintentionally inherited from his father."

Amid a standoff between protesters and the government, what comes next will depend on the large silent majority, including Sunni businessmen and religious figures. Almost all have the same aspirations to a life with dignity and without repression and for a chance to have more control over their lives and their country.

"I changed my mind after the speech he [Assad] gave," said Abdullah, a 30-year-old office worker who described himself as previously neutral. "I am thinking of joining the protest because I don't think he will – or even can – make changes." Kurds turned out to rally last week despite Assad's move to grant citizenship to tens of thousands of stateless Kurds.

But others say protesting is not the way. "Protests have not been about people changing their opinions but breaking the shackles stopping them from expressing them," said Ahmed, a 20-year-old from the impoverished eastern region. "I feel the same but I want to study and change things peacefully."

Assad can fall back on a regime apparatus that, despite occasional reports of reluctance by army conscripts to open fire on protesters, is loyal. The family has populated the upper echelons of the military and intelligence with Alawites who fear persecution if a Sunni majority takes hold.

There are also Sunni loyalists in the regime who through a system of carefully doled out benefits are discouraged from leaving Assad's side. Each time they take to the streets, Syria's protesters know they have a hard battle ahead with an unpredictable end.
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De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
  vrijdag 15 april 2011 @ 21:15:58 #281
172669 Papierversnipperaar
Cafene is ook maar een drug.
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Syria: 'Don't kill more than 20 protesters in one day'

March 23 Syrian intelligence document details strategy to counter rebel sentiment, create links between rebels, "Zionist regime."

A document allegedly drafted by top Syrian intelligence officers, which details strict guidelines for carrying out rebel assassinations, infiltrating anti-regime organizations and distributing propaganda sound bites and images, has been published on Facebook.

Among the instructions handed down to security forces was an order to limit the number of protesters killed in one day to 20 people. The limited killing, the document says, was necessary in order to control international anger about the Assad regime's use of force against civilians, Israel Radio reported.

The document calls for anti-rebel forces to create links between government protesters and the US and Israel. In a translated version published in an msnbc.com report on Wednesday, a media campaign connecting "the anti-regime demonstrations and protests to figures hated by the Syrian populace such as the usual Saudi and Lebanese figures, and connecting the lot of them to Zionism and to America" is laid out.

Syrian President Bashar Assad is referred to as "our highest symbol" in the text.

The document is divided into two sections: A "detailed plan" and a breakdown of a potential revolutions "political economic factor."

The "detailed plan" involves "an intensive media campaign accusing the protesters and the enemies of being agents of Saudi Arabia, Israel and America," banning journalists from protest sites, and planting plain-clothes security and "eyewitnesses" in political hot spots to deliver rehearsed quotations and feedback.

Details of "political economic factor" include staged marches in support of Assad, lowering the prices of fuel and food in order to bolster public support, and agreeing to "some of the Kurdish demands."

The veracity of the document could not be verified by US officials, who were in possession of the document. The Syrian embassy refused to comment.
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[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 13:13:14 #282
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Ilharaqa Baraka
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Wat een rust hier, rustiger dan in Damascus in ieder geval.

Demonstranten lijken het aanbod van Assad niet te accepteren en gaan wederom de straat op, wat nu?
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0s.gif Op vrijdag 15 april 2011 19:45 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:
Ik maak mij zorgen om CLF. Is ie nog online gekomen sinds zijn bezoek aan Syri? :{
laatste bezoek: 14 dagen, 19 uur geleden. :o

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0s.gif Op vrijdag 15 april 2011 20:20 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
Niet gezien. Ik ben bang dat hij in een Syrische cel zit en gemarteld wordt door zijn idool.
lol, of hij helpt het regime met het onderdrukken van de demonstranten en is door de demonstranten het ziekenhuis ingeslagen :P
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Onrust in Syri houdt aan acht doden bij protesten in stad Homs

Toezeggingen van de Syrische president Bashar al-Assad over het opheffen van de noodtoestand in het land hebben niet tot het gewenste einde aan de al weken durende demonstraties tegen het regime geleid.

Bij het neerslaan van protesten door ordetroepen in de stad Homs vielen volgens een oppositiewoordvoerder vannacht acht doden. Demonstranten gingen daar volgens persbureau Reuters massaal de straat op nadat een bleek dat n van hen was komen te overlijden terwijl hij in bewaring zat. Volgens de woordvoerder, die op voorwaarde van anonimiteit met Reuters sprak, was de man in goede gezondheid toen hij opgepakt werd voor het deelnemen aan een demonstratie. En uu is hij als lijk de cel uitgekomen. Het is bekend dat de ordetroepen met harde hand optreden tegen demonstranten, maar dit is onaanvaardbaar.

Op veel plaatsen tienduizenden mensen de straat op
Ook gisteren, de dag dat het land 65 jaar onafhankelijkheid vierde, gingen in veel plaatsen in het land tienduizenden mensen de straat op. In de stad Talbiseh vielen volgens getuigen zeker vier doden toen de politie tijdens een begrafenis het vuur opende op betogers. Volgens het staatspersbureau Sana was er een politieman gedood en raakten elf anderen gewond. Ook uit andere steden, waaronder Aleppo, Deraa, Suwaida en Lattakia, kwamen berichten over nieuwe betogingen.

De demonstranten willen onder meer een einde aan de verstikkende greep van de veiligheidsdiensten op het alledaagse leven en de vrijlating van politieke gevangenen die vaak al jaren zonder proces vastzitten. Sommigen roepen ook openlijk om een eind aan het bewind van Assad, die de macht ruim tien jaar geleden van zijn vader erfde. Ook vrijdag na het traditionele vrijdagsgebed demonstreerden tienduizenden in het hele land tegen de regering.

In de afgelopen vier weken zijn er volgens mensenrechtenorganisaties al zeker 200 mensen om het leven gekomen bij betogingen, die veelal met geweld door de autoriteiten werden beindigd.
http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/(...)testen-in-stad-homs/
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  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 17:19:07 #285
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Assad gaat down. _O_Vraag me af hoe het allemaal zal gaan, gezien de alliantie tussen Syrie, Hezbollah en Iran.
All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers. ~Franois Fnelon
  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 17:19:16 #286
273119 BeSimple
or die trying!
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laatste bezoek: 14 dagen, 19 uur geleden. :o

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lol, of hij helpt het regime met het onderdrukken van de demonstranten en is door de demonstranten het ziekenhuis ingeslagen :P
Pssst laten we nou niet meer over hem hebben heh. Zijn we eindelijk van dat zwart-wit achtige propaganda af ;-)
Laat me met rust!
  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 18:24:50 #287
45563 Djaser
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0s.gif Op maandag 18 april 2011 17:19 schreef rakotto het volgende:
Assad gaat down. _O_Vraag me af hoe het allemaal zal gaan, gezien de alliantie tussen Syrie, Hezbollah en Iran.
Ongeveer vergelijkbaar met Irak.
  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 19:12:31 #288
271497 Aloulou
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Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 19:23:50 #289
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Al Jazeera Live blog vandaag:

6:05pm
Our correspondent Cal Perry says the government seems to slowly be losing control of many cities and towns outside Damascus. This footage, filmed in the Damascus suburb of Douma yesterday, seems to back up this point: protesters destroy all symbols of the government, tearing down pictures of President Bashar al-Assad and his father.


7:03pm
Protests seem to be spreading. Thousands rallying in Homs and our reporter Cal Perry in Damascus said he was just hearing news of a peaceful protest 10km west of the capital. There are also reports of a large demonstration by Kurds in Ain al-Arab in the north.
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 19:31:56 #290
271497 Aloulou
aka Alulu
  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 19:34:29 #291
271497 Aloulou
aka Alulu
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Unrest Spreads Further

BEIRUT, Apr 18, 2011 (IPS) - Despite scarce official news reports emerging from Syria, information leaking out from activists on the ground describe the situation as deteriorating. While the government remains vague about events unfolding in the country, Friday prayers continue to ignite dissent that seems to be spreading to all social classes.


"People are very angry, especially since men arrested in the city of Banyas were released and accounts of torture circulated among residents," says one activist, who asked to remain anonymous for security reasons.

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=55293
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
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Ja, gaat er heftig aan toe. Duidelijk lijkt me in ieder geval dat ze het net zo proberen als in Egypte aanvankelijk: de mannen-in-burger. Tegelijkertijd heb ik ook gelezen dat tegenstanders van het regime met name in het westen wapens en geld hebben uitgedeeld.
  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 19:39:12 #293
271497 Aloulou
aka Alulu
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Ja, zeker nu dit net naar buiten komt. Ook op Al Arabiyya net:

7:54pm
Rami, a protester in the square, just told Al Jazeera that a a sheikh has told the demonstrators that Maher al-Assad, the president's brother, said he would send the security forces to disperse protesters.

Rami says he can see a number of armed "hooligans" who are gathered around the demo.

He is saying all the protesters are unarmed civilians -about 50,000 - and they will continue protesting and camping out in the suqare until the regime is overthrown.
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 19:43:12 #294
271497 Aloulou
aka Alulu
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Spam Bots Flooding Twitter to Drown Info About #Syria Protests

http://advocacy.globalvoi(...)bout-syria-protests/
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 19:46:08 #295
104871 remlof
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0s.gif Op maandag 18 april 2011 19:39 schreef Aloulou het volgende:
Ja, zeker nu dit net naar buiten komt. Ook op Al Arabiyya net:

7:54pm
Rami, a protester in the square, just told Al Jazeera that a a sheikh has told the demonstrators that Maher al-Assad, the president's brother, said he would send the security forces to disperse protesters.

Rami says he can see a number of armed "hooligans" who are gathered around the demo.

He is saying all the protesters are unarmed civilians -about 50,000 - and they will continue protesting and camping out in the suqare until the regime is overthrown.


50.000 demonstranten? Dat is geen kattepies :o

Op welk plein in welke stad is dat?
  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 19:47:53 #296
271497 Aloulou
aka Alulu
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In Homs, op het vrijheidsplein.

Deze Twitter heel veel berichten, ook vandaaruit lijkt het en echt laatste ontwikkelingen maar veelal in het Arabisch. Ordetroepen zijn er al omheen en hebben ze ingesloten.

http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Syria

Vandaag, namiddag:
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 19:55:38 #297
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aka Alulu
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eternalitysmile RT @syrianfront: Thousands of Protesters in Latakia now. pls dont forget People in Latakia are also in the streets. #Syria #latakia
less than 20 seconds ago via web


less than 20 seconds ago via twitterfeed
rev11info_en RT @democraticiran: NYT/ people are in charge in the city center now More than 10,000 people occupied a central square in Homs #Syria


ndabutterfly RT @khalidkhan787: #Homs New Clock Square now becoming Tahrir Square, largest ever sit -in of #Syria being witnessed right now
Oorlog is de verderzetting van de politiek maar met andere middelen - Clausewitz
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Cables reveal covert US support for Syria's opposition
Newly released WikiLeaks cables reveal that the US State Department has been secretly financing Syrian opposition groups and other opposition projects for at least five years, The Washington Post reports.

That aid continued going into the hands of the Syrian government opposition even after the US began its reengagement policy with Syria under President Barack Obama in 2009, the Post reports. In January, the US posted its first ambassador to the country since the Bush administration withdrew the US ambassador in 2005 over concerns about Syria's involvement in the assassination of former Lebanese prime minister Rafik Hariri.

The Obama administration has been trying to draw Syria away from its key ally Iran and closer to the US and its regional allies. The effort seems to have been largely unsuccessful so far, and antigovernment protests sweeping the country have complicated the issue. The US is struggling to determine how to support Syria's democratic protesters while not alienating the Assad government, which has cracked down brutally on demonstrations and blamed them on "foreign saboteurs," as The Christian Science Monitor reported last week.

That is a dilemma that concerned the US government even before the protests began. The author of an April 2009 cable expressed concern that some of the projects being funded by the US, if discovered by the Syrian government, would be perceived as "an attempt to undermine the Asad [sic] regime, as opposed to encouraging behavior reform."

The Post reported that much of the money as much as $6 million since 2006 has been funneled through a group of Syrian exiles in London, known as the Movement for Justice and Development. The group is connected to a London-based satellite television station that is broadcast in Syria, known as Barada TV, which has recently expanded its coverage to include the mass protests.

Several other civil society initiatives in Syria received secret US funding, but by 2009, US officials were concerned that the Syrian government had discovered the US funding. The Post was unable to confirm whether programs are still being funded, but cables indicate the funding was planned at least through September 2010.

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The problem is not the occupation, but how people deal with it.
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Ik las/hoorde het het op AJE, de opstand is dus niet zo spontaan. :X
En weer zit de US diep in de shit met deze leaks ~O>
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  maandag 18 april 2011 @ 22:18:25 #300
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Ongeveer vergelijkbaar met Irak.
Dat denk ik niet. Wat er in Irak aan de hand is komt mede dankzij de USA en Co.
All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers. ~Franois Fnelon
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